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[Q] SMS over 160 Characters fail to send on EVO 4G

Hello,
HTC EVO 4G running Cyanogen 7.0.3.1 latest release. Will not send messages over 160 characters. Now, I know sms split can solve this problem, but I don't want my texts to be split. I want it to be sent as one long message. Please don't tell me that CDMA does not allow this (like Ive seen in some threads while searching for a solution), because this is not true. This problem has nothing to do with CDMA, I know millions of people using the same phone from the same provider without having this issue. Is there a fix for this.
While we're at at it, ever since I flashed cyanogen, GPS doesn't work, any fix?
Thanks for the help

Are you using a 3rd party app for messaging?
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tariqa3588 said:
Hello,
I know millions of people using the same phone from the same provider without having this issue.
Thanks for the help
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Well if you know millions that can , ask one of them and let us all know. .. Wow he knows a million people.

You need to sms split or get somthing like handcent that will convert messages over 160 to a mms message
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No I am not using a third party sms application.
Thank you but I do not want to split messages!
And Ive asked many people with the same phone, it works fine for them, but they don't know how? they're just not having the problem, what benefit would asking them be.

the SMS limit might not be a CDMA thing but it could possibly be a Sprint enforced rule. splitting messages isn't too bad especially since you have that option in CM7.
you need to reset your GPS for it to work. but that can be done two ways.
download GPS Status app and choose reset GPS in the settings (i never tried this)
OR (i did this)
(1) get MSL reader from market and copy down the MSL for your phone
(2) flash back to any Sense ROM, type in ##GPSCLRX# in the dialer
You will be asked to enter your MSL and then the phone should reboot.
after rebooting test to make sure your GPS works in sense and then immediately flash over to CM7.

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No text message is over 160 characters. GSM carriers automatically split, then put-back-together long messages. Sprint, and every other CDMA carrier, doesn't do this automatically. Instead, the stock HTC software itself automatically splits, and puts back together split messages that it sees coming in (it's pretty easy to tell a message is split when five messages from the same number come in within 2ms of each other).
CyanogenMod had this added by 7.0.3 (if not 7.0.2) for all CDMA devices, where it would automatically split the messages. Don't know about putting them together, as I just use Google Voice for everything, because IT WORKS.

I do have mine limited to 90 characters and automatically converts to MMS once it exceeded that number. I dont want to use a third party sms program for it provides you two sms notification every time you receive a message. Does rooting solve this problem? Any option on getting it on its regular sms(160 characters). I tried using a third party keyboard input like smart keyboard but it did not fix the issu of 90 characters
Help please!

No, this has to do with the way the SMS messages are actually parsed before sending
You can only fix it if the rom itself has it, rooting wont do any good
But on the 100% stock rom it splits it already? Gosms, handcent, and chompsms give you this function, in case you rethink not wanting to use a 3rd party function
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Before I rooted my evo 4g, it split my messages on its own. When I rooted it, I had to use a third party sms to do so.

THIS WIDGET USED 9.5GB!!! in 1 week

thanks to this data usage feature on ics it warned that i was close to 10gb. i had no idea. its the pure news widget. thankfully i have unlimited data. but anyone have any idea how this is happening? i only have 3 news sources.
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sorry mate can't see ya pic

switch to manual updates.

qman66 said:
thanks to this data usage feature on ics it warned that i was close to 10gb. i had no idea. its the pure news widget. thankfully i have unlimited data. but anyone have any idea how this is happening? i only have 3 news sources.
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Google should log the average amount of data an app can use and write it on the market...

That is ridiculous, how often was it updating
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cordell507 said:
That is ridiculous, how often was it updating
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for a few days every few hours even though i had it set to 30 minutes it didnt work right. now its been updating every half hour and still the same crazy data. i mean its only a few lines of text for each article. i only have 10 newest showing. it doesnt make any sense. something has to be going on in the background that i dont know of.

hory chit
the battery life was probably terrible if it used this much :/

That's crazy! Have you mailed the developers? It must be images or something, text couldn't add up to that. Maybe leave it connected to your wifi and run wireshark or something (if you've got an adapter that will run promiscuous mode properly) - maybe you can see what it's doing...

jmbillings said:
That's crazy! Have you mailed the developers? It must be images or something, text couldn't add up to that. Maybe leave it connected to your wifi and run wireshark or something (if you've got an adapter that will run promiscuous mode properly) - maybe you can see what it's doing...
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i havent yet. i have a a little thumbnail image next to the text. this is just strange.

qman66 said:
i havent yet. i have a a little thumbnail image next to the text. this is just strange.
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holy crrrrap....9GB
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This must be a bug, the app developers wouldn't want everyone with their app using this much data from their servers every week!
ErGo_404 said:
Google should log the average amount of data an app can use and write it on the market...
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Good idea.

jmbillings said:
That's crazy! Have you mailed the developers? It must be images or something, text couldn't add up to that. Maybe leave it connected to your wifi and run wireshark or something (if you've got an adapter that will run promiscuous mode properly) - maybe you can see what it's doing...
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Images? Forget about images, this has to be downloading high quality videos to get to 9GB.

I have some serious security concerns about what this app is doing. You should try to sniff the data and see how much its sending versus receiving. I'd be curious to know what IP addresses it is communicating with. Did you install it directly from the market?
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Just read the comments on the market for this app. One other person reported it using 833 megs in 10 hours. That was back in July.
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It over 9000! (MB)
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I used to use pure messenger and calendar widgets without any surprises. That is insane though really...
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Maybe it is a bug in ICS's data use report? Try to contact your carrier to check if you have really used 9GB in the last month.
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You should contact the developer, he is very responsive and provide good support.
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Hi,
I am the dev of this app.
1. when you have such trouble, please contact me by email (hopefully somebody did).
2. check if it load images and images sizes. It doesn't load 'thumbnails' from the websites, but full images if thumbnails are not available ... so, if the website use big images of 2Mb ... it can goes quickly.
3. disable widget cache if it was enable
4. here is my widget with 3h refresh period and 8 feeds :
http://pureapps.planethoster.org/images/presentation/pne_data.png
5. if you use the internal viewer, all browsing you does in the viewer is counted ... video streaming, downloads...
@deekjx : For comments about 'security concerns', dump the UDP/TCP trafic if you want, there is nothing hidden. But, please, be careful before publishing such comments. Now, if the app doesn't come from the market, you can be right... few users reported Pure calendar hacked bersions containing viruses because they got it from a 'forum'.
Please, email me logcats just after a manual refresh to check what is wrong.

Same for me too
Switched to manual update worked fine. contacted dev through market

Group SMS

Am I just doing it wrong, or does sending an SMS to a group of people just not work the way you would expect? When I send an SMS to a group of people (using GO SMS or the default app), each person's reply comes in on it's own thread, and there is no way for a person to reply to all. Recipients also cannot tell who all the initial message was sent to.
TMO has a group SMS app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zipwhip.zipgroups.sidekick, and I know people that use it, and it seems to work, but when I install it on my SGS3, it never works (it errors out when "setting up the phone"). It seems this app is only for the SIdekick??? Why it is specific to a single phone is beyond me. I have also seen other apps that work, but they all require everyone to use the same app (WhatsApp, for instance).
There is a setting for MMS Group Chat in GO SMS, but it doesn't seem to do anything for organizing a thread for multiple recipients. In fact, I'm not sure what it does.

Stock messaging app doesn't do group. It sends them separately to each so when they reply you get separate replies. But go SMS pro fully supports group chats. Been using it for quite a while now. Below are the settings you need to check.
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Thanks. I have tried those settings, but it didn't seem to work. I think the 3 minute message grouping is what is messing things up for me. I don't always get replies within 3 minutes. I guess I will mess with it some more.

MrGibbage said:
Thanks. I have tried those settings, but it didn't seem to work. I think the 3 minute message grouping is what is messing things up for me. I don't always get replies within 3 minutes. I guess I will mess with it some more.
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Hmm..Im not sure then. I used Go SMS Pro for my Evo 3d as well and with those settings I never had any issue. Even if the replies are hours later.

And can a recipient hit reply and will the replies go to everyone, or just me?

MrGibbage said:
And can a recipient hit reply and will the replies go to everyone, or just me?
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It'll go to the group chat thread assuming their phone supports it. Its like being in a chat room. Everyone can see everyone's reply in one thread.
But if their phone doesn't support it then it will send separately
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MrGibbage said:
Am I just doing it wrong, or does sending an SMS to a group of people just not work the way you would expect? When I send an SMS to a group of people (using GO SMS or the default app), each person's reply comes in on it's own thread, and there is no way for a person to reply to all. Recipients also cannot tell who all the initial message was sent to.
TMO has a group SMS app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zipwhip.zipgroups.sidekick, and I know people that use it, and it seems to work, but when I install it on my SGS3, it never works (it errors out when "setting up the phone"). It seems this app is only for the SIdekick??? Why it is specific to a single phone is beyond me. I have also seen other apps that work, but they all require everyone to use the same app (WhatsApp, for instance).
There is a setting for MMS Group Chat in GO SMS, but it doesn't seem to do anything for organizing a thread for multiple recipients. In fact, I'm not sure what it does.
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I've use" groupme" from the play store. Worked well for me, you can set it up to where they deliver and receive texts thru SMS rather than the app, the people you text with don't need the app or a smart phone.
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g2uzer said:
I've use" groupme" from the play store. Worked well for me, you can set it up to where they deliver and receive texts thru SMS rather than the app, the people you text with don't need the app or a smart phone.
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When they reply to your text do you get individual responses or does it get combined into 1 thread? Can it also be used as your main messaging app even for individual messages or this is only specific for doing group messages?

aznmode said:
When they reply to your text do you get individual responses or does it get combined into 1 thread? Can it also be used as your main messaging app even for individual messages or this is only specific for doing group messages?
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Well the way I set it up
I get them thru SMS, and yea its like a chat room type, if any one reply to it, every one on the group you created gets it, and no I don't use it as a main app, I use it to create groups and that's it's,I like using the replies thru SMS , I shut the app notifications off
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My phones acting all glitchy..:(

First I noticed that my email icon says I have 205 emails, no matter what. I also noticed that my voicemail icon doesnt like to clear. All my ringtones were set back to default even my email and text. Even after resetting my email ringtone it still wont sound. My multi-window kept opening every time I hit the back button even though I had made it stay closed by pressing and holding the back button. I had to restart my phone for that to work correctly. While this was going on, my phones battery was really bad for 2 days. I didnt even use it, it was connected to wifi and the battery drained by 8 pm, with no use. Its 10:45 here right now and I have 80%, which is good. I noticed the screen flickers with white sometimes too when I hit the home key. I am getting really tired of my phone not working. There was another thing that wasnt working correctly but I forgot what it was, a restart fixed it though. Anyone else having problems? what should I do? I know it isnt much but I like my stuff to work correctly. I Am stock rooted. I am not on lk8.

No one has a response?

Factory reset it?
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Dont really want to...

loveshinesthru said:
Dont really want to...
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Sounds like something is borked from a bad download or flash. I would reset to rule out the normal issues. With all the sms and app backup programs out there you don't stand to lose much, if anything, by reflashing the rom.
Why the hesitation?
Rooting can be great but typically is to install a program (feature) or rom that didn't come stock. If you're doing this and can't afford to reset if a conflict comes up then it generally its a good idea to stay 100% stock and let sprint fix your issues [which they typically do with a reset]
If you decide to reset try sms backup, and an app backup program like titanium or app backup and restore.
Good luck!
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Tried to hit thanks but Ive used all mine today. I didnt do anything to my phone except root it. I tried Jellybomb rom now, but im having issues with that email notification not changing to the one I want and it still rings when Im on a call. Its really loud and hurts my ears. no one over there will help me either.

loveshinesthru said:
Tried to hit thanks but Ive used all mine today. I didnt do anything to my phone except root it. I tried Jellybomb rom now, but im having issues with that email notification not changing to the one I want and it still rings when Im on a call. Its really loud and hurts my ears. no one over there will help me either.
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Why not try a stock rooted rom?
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loveshinesthru said:
Tried to hit thanks but Ive used all mine today. I didnt do anything to my phone except root it. I tried Jellybomb rom now, but im having issues with that email notification not changing to the one I want and it still rings when Im on a call. Its really loud and hurts my ears. no one over there will help me either.
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Here's the solution for in call notifications (annoying screenshots too!)
Go to dialer -hit menu - call settings - call alerts - uncheck "alerts on call"
I just saved your hearing! Hope it helps.
Screenies below
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mditty77 said:
Here's the solution for in call notifications (annoying screenshots too!)
Go to dialer -hit menu - call settings - call alerts - uncheck "alerts on call"
I just saved your hearing! Hope it helps.
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View attachment 1648641View attachment 1648647
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Thanks!

Question Google Messages

Hey all,
I got my Fold4 a little over a week ago. The version of Google Messages on my Fold3 has a few additional features that are missing on the Fold4. The feature with which I'm primarily concerned is the reminder function. On the Fold3 I can long press on any individual message within a conversation and a little clock appears up at the top of the app. Tapping on the clock gives me the option to schedule a reminder to respond to the message. There is no such feature available on the version of the app installed on the Fold4. Anyone else missing this? I want it back.

I could be wrong, but I think this was a Samsung Messenger feature and not Google Messages. I just tried it on my S22 Ultra and Fold 4, neither worked in in google, but the long press both worked in the Samsung app.

Matth943 said:
I could be wrong, but I think this was a Samsung Messenger feature and not Google Messages. I just tried it on my S22 Ultra and Fold 4, neither worked in in google, but the long press both worked in the Samsung app.
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I'm looking at both phones right now. I appreciate the input but, yes, you're wrong.

pieces of cake said:
I'm looking at both phones right now. I appreciate the input but, yes, you're wrong.
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Copy that! In all fairness, I wasn't aware that this was a feature until tonight lol. Kinda disappointed I can't get the extra features in google too.

I'm pretty sure I've figured out the explanation now, but it still doesn't make good sense. The version installed on my Fold3 is "messages.android_20220822_05_RC00.phone.openbeta_dynamic" whereas the version installed on my Fold4 is "messages.android_20220822_05_RC00.phone_samsung_dynamic." The menu icon has changed from the Google Account Profile icon to the typical 3 dot button. When using Messages with the phone closed (just the front cover display), the conversations are shifted down lower on the Fold4's version, making it easier to reach the top conversation without using two hands. And there are a few other minor but convenient feature changes. But none of these changes should necessitate the removal of reminders. Screenshot of the reminder button on my Fold3 is attached.
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More screenshots comparing the two builds attached here

I've also noticed the fold4 specific changes. I hate the new wasted space on the contact menu. I wonder if we can install the Fold3 apk on the fold 4.

YellowGTO said:
I've also noticed the fold4 specific changes. I hate the new wasted space on the contact menu. I wonder if we can install the Fold3 apk on the fold 4.
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I tried and was unsuccessful. I'm sure the Samsung-specific version of the app will be updated and fixed fairly quickly. Not sure what your talking about with respect to the contact menu. What the heck is the "contact menu?" If you're simply referring to the message list on the cover screen, I think the design/layout update makes sense. I can now reach the top conversation with my thumb when using a single hand.

Yes i'm referring to the messages list. I think It is a terrible design choice to force people to only be able to see 6 text messages at start. This should be a checkbox option.

I've hadn't have any issues sending timed messages. I know in the Google Messages version, after typing out your message, press and hold down on the send arrow and it lets you set a specific time to actually send the message.

mprunty said:
I've hadn't have any issues sending timed messages. I know in the Google Messages version, after typing out your message, press and hold down on the send arrow and it lets you set a specific time to actually send the message.
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That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about setting reminders for individual messages within a conversation. You're talking about scheduling messages to be sent automatically at a later time.

YellowGTO said:
Yes i'm referring to the messages list. I think It is a terrible design choice to force people to only be able to see 6 text messages at start. This should be a checkbox option.
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I disagree. It's a much better design. You can easily scroll down if you want to see more conversations.

pieces of cake said:
That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about setting reminders for individual messages within a conversation. You're talking about scheduling messages to be sent automatically at a later time.
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My apologies. I misunderstood. The closest thing I could find to what you are looking for is in relation to the app itself and not individual messages within the conversation....
Settings
Notification
Advanced Settings
Notification Reminders

mprunty said:
My apologies. I misunderstood. The closest thing I could find to what you are looking for is in relation to the app itself and not individual messages within the conversation....
Settings
Notification
Advanced Settings
Notification Reminders
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Take a look at the screenshots I shared earlier in this thread

Uninstall the app and download the Google beta version from app mirror. Done and dusted.

TechSilver13 said:
Uninstall the app and download the Google beta version from app mirror. Done and dusted.
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It has to be removed via ADB, as it's a bundled app. Admittedly, I haven't yet tried that.

Use adb appcontrol. It's free and you can just disable it. It's a windows app.

Google finally fixed this issue with the latest version of the app.

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Google finally fixed this issue with the latest version of the app.
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Not for me .
Can you share your version please ?