I know there are issues with some apps when restoring data from ICS to GB, as I have experienced the lot of FCs that occur when you do so. Searched quite a bit to see if there was anything like this posted, so forgive me if I didn't have the correct parameters in my search and missed it.
It got me thinking...
Is it possible to edit any of the files within the Titanium Backup data to make it compatible from one to the other and vice versa or would it "brick" the data?
If it's possible, would someone be willing to share their Titanium Backup of GB data (from Temple Run or Fruit Ninja preferably as it seems to effect games more often than not) so I can look into it a bit further [EDIT: by comparing the data files to my ICS backups]?
If not, then I guess we're SOL.
Yea, some of my saved games wouldn't even load back on gb. Had to start all over again on blast monkeys.
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Jaxp3r said:
I know there are issues with some apps when restoring data from ICS to GB, as I have experienced the lot of FCs that occur when you do so. Searched quite a bit to see if there was anything like this posted, so forgive me if I didn't have the correct parameters in my search and missed it.
It got me thinking...
Is it possible to edit any of the files within the Titanium Backup data to make it compatible from one to the other and vice versa or would it "brick" the data?
If it's possible, would someone be willing to share their Titanium Backup of GB data (from Temple Run or Fruit Ninja preferably as it seems to effect games more often than not) so I can look into it a bit further [EDIT: by comparing the data files to my ICS backups]?
If not, then I guess we're SOL.
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While I admire the initiative to learn to bend android to your will... This ^^^ idea would be very involved, take some specific tools, (to extract the images), and incredible know how to alter things accordingly. Pretty sure the process would involve flashing your target operating system, creating a TB back up of said game, app, etc, then painstakingly diffing it against your existing backup from other android version.
Might just be easier to start fresh with the game or app on gb, ics, jb, Froyo, whatever, then create a new group in TB where you backup said data, based on version of android.
That's what I do.
"Hey, that's not a bug, that's a feature!" Linus Torvalds, 2001
Can't you just backup the app/data, then on a fresh flash, install the app form Market, the restore data with TB?
jamieg71 said:
While I admire the initiative to learn to bend android to your will... This ^^^ idea would be very involved, take some specific tools, (to extract the images), and incredible know how to alter things accordingly. Pretty sure the process would involve flashing your target operating system, creating a TB back up of said game, app, etc, then painstakingly diffing it against your existing backup from other android version.
Might just be easier to start fresh with the game or app on gb, ics, jb, Froyo, whatever, then create a new group in TB where you backup said data, based on version of android.
That's what I do.
"Hey, that's not a bug, that's a feature!" Linus Torvalds, 2001
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I'll look into it this weekend if I have time for the multi-flashing, else it would be great if someone could share their GB Titanium Backup of some app (as mentioned, preferably Temple Run) and I would just dive right in.
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Can't you just backup the app/data, then on a fresh flash, install the app form Market, the restore data with TB?
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Unfortunately no, not when going from ICS to GB. From ICS to ICS or GB to GB, yes.
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Unfortunately no, not when going from ICS to GB. From ICS to ICS or GB to GB, yes.
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Hmm, odd, because I have gone back and forth from ICS to GB and back without a problem
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Hmm, odd, because I have gone back and forth from ICS to GB and back without a problem
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If that's the case, my guess is that it's dependent on the app then.
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Had no time to do multiple flashes this weekend. If someone else has time to do so, or if they're already on GB, it would be appreciated if you could post your Titanium Backup of an app (Temple Run preferred).
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Hmm, odd, because I have gone back and forth from ICS to GB and back without a problem
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As usual, HipKat is correct. :good:
I had some time to flash Reloaded this morning and did a restore of my Temple Run's Titanium Backup (TB from now on). Lo and behold, it force closed right away. From there, I went into manage applications to clear the data. After clearing, I opened Temple Run again, to do a run so I could prep it for a TB, to compare the GB files to the previous ICS files that I had.
After clearing the data, however, it seemed to get rid of the FC issue, but still maintained the TB data, meaning that the ICS data was still intact, and functional after flashing back to GB. :victory::victory:
Hopefully this is the case for everyone. I'll report back shortly to see if it works again, because I believe I have a faulty download of the Reloaded .zip causing Aroma to not install everything that I selected. I'm currently re-downloading the .zip as I type this out, so I'll be re-flashing shortly. Once I re-flash (and hopefully the Aroma options carry over this time), I'll check and see if the TB data will be maintained again.
I don't know if it's fixed, because I've been of Reloaded for a while, but as it was, installing TB from Aroma caused and FC. What I do is add the tb app and it's lib file to the ROM.zip before I flash it so it's pre-installed
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I don't know if it's fixed, because I've been of Reloaded for a while, but as it was, installing TB from Aroma caused and FC. What I do is add the tb app and it's lib file to the ROM.zip before I flash it so it's pre-installed
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Yeah..I am seeing no probs either. I have been back and forth from GB and ics all week. I usually flash the fresh ROM, then go to market and install tb fresh before restoring app and ata, no fc at all...all is well
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My understanding is that GingerBread (2.3.x) will handle automatically restoring your apps after a wipe or you switch between ROM (each with clean wipe).
It asks about "backing up google".
I'm currently using MikG 0.5 and was using MikG RC1 for quite a while (since it was released 3 weeks?).
I was hoping starting with a fresh wipe it would restore my apps but it does not.
I think on one of these gingerbread ROMs (I've tried a bunch) I think it did partially restore apps. Not just paid ones. I forget if it was complete or not.
Is there something explicit you have to do to make this all work?
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My understanding is that GingerBread (2.3.x) will handle automatically restoring your apps after a wipe or you switch between ROM (each with clean wipe).
It asks about "backing up google".
I'm currently using MikG 0.5 and was using MikG RC1 for quite a while (since it was released 3 weeks?).
I was hoping starting with a fresh wipe it would restore my apps but it does not.
I think on one of these gingerbread ROMs (I've tried a bunch) I think it did partially restore apps. Not just paid ones. I forget if it was complete or not.
Is there something explicit you have to do to make this all work?
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That still seems to be hit or miss. Is there any reason you're not using Titanium Backup?
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That still seems to be hit or miss. Is there any reason you're not using Titanium Backup?
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Because I don't like it. Recently I wanted to use it for a piece of software for TTS I bought and was no longer available in the Market. And it completely fell on it's face. All I did was copy the APK from system from a restored back up and it installed fine.
I also don't want to restore potentially incompatible apps. I assume Google will trigger Market to install latest right from the start.
I also don't have to explicitly choose what to back up and what to restore.
I've seen the Google Stuff work, and it works well when it works.
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Because I don't like it. Recently I wanted to use it for a piece of software for TTS I bought and was no longer available in the Market. And it completely fell on it's face. All I did was copy the APK from system from a restored back up and it installed fine.
I also don't want to restore potentially incompatible apps. I assume Google will trigger Market to install latest right from the start.
I also don't have to explicitly choose what to back up and what to restore.
I've seen the Google Stuff work, and it works well when it works.
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That's the problem. Honestly, TB can be complicated to use but what you're describing sounds like user error. You also don't have to explicitly choose what to backup and restore in TB either. Just go into Menu > Batch > Backup all user apps to backup and then Restore all user apps when you want to restore. Then just use the Market to update any out of date apps. It takes forever for the Market to get your apps back anyway, I always use TB and so does almost anyone else on a custom ROM.
Call me a purist, but I don't like Titanium Backup either. Granted, I don't use a ton of market apps, only about a dozen or so ... just not a problem. To get back to the original question, Google has always restored my apps on CM6/7, up to and including the 3-7 gapps. The newer gapps used with Android 2.3.4 are where everything began to break down.
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That's the problem. Honestly, TB can be complicated to use but what you're describing sounds like user error. You also don't have to explicitly choose what to backup and restore in TB either. Just go into Menu > Batch > Backup all user apps to backup and then Restore all user apps when you want to restore. Then just use the Market to update any out of date apps. It takes forever for the Market to get your apps back anyway, I always use TB and so does almost anyone else on a custom ROM.
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I don't want to back it up like that. I think it causes problems.
I backed up this app explicitly, went to restore explicitly and it didn't work. Pretty Simple.
I'd like the google feature. I want something that coordinates with the mark app and installs the instead if the backup is old.
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I don't want to back it up like that. I think it causes problems.
I backed up this app explicitly, went to restore explicitly and it didn't work. Pretty Simple.
I'd like the google feature. I want something that coordinates with the mark app and installs the instead if the backup is old.
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Good luck
Ok I have a lot of backups stored in TI, but I am wanting to re flash my ROM and wipe data ect..
My question is can I somehow make a backup of just the apps that are installed on my phone right now, so when I start to put the apps back I can flash all the apps I have now instead of going and unchecking all the apps I don't want installed right now?
I hope that makes sence, I'm not good at expressing what's in my brain onto txt...
Thx for help.
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Would be good if there was a question lol
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There is a question..
And the answer is yes, select batch back up and only select the files you want to install, instead of just selecting all.
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I know how to do that. But I have a lot of apps that are backed up but not installed so it would take a while.
I just want to know if there is a quicker way.
I guess I could ask like this;
Is there a way to backup all current installed apps, then flash a new ROM or wipe data, and then re-install just the apps that u just then backed up? Completly ignoring all other backups of apps that are stored there.
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I know how to do that. But I have a lot of apps that are backed up but not installed so it would take a while.
I just want to know if there is a quicker way.
I guess I could ask like this;
Is there a way to backup all current installed apps, then flash a new ROM or wipe data, and then re-install just the apps that u just then backed up? Completly ignoring all other backups of apps that are stored there.
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Yes, you can backup the current apps installed. There's an APP in the market called App Backup & Restore. This backs up all apps in your phone (giving you the option to check/uncheck which ones you dont want) and allows you to restore those apps with ease.
Check it out...I hope this is what you're looking for!
You could also back them up with a nandroid and do an advanced restore data and get all your current apps back.
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You could also back them up with a nandroid and do an advanced restore data and get all your current apps back.
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You and I seem to think alike kenny, but you're always a bit ahead of me! I was thinking this same thing, or the other option, still in TB, would be to batch restore and then click the box "deselect all" so then you only have to go through and check the ones you want instead of unchecking the ones you don't. I think this was mentioned before as well.
I was wondering if you could provide a bit more info on the advanced restore data. I know it's an option available in CWM, but I'm wondering if there are situations where it wouldn't work as well as using some backup app. I think I read that if you were switching versions, like Froyo to Gingerbread, it probably wouldn't work well. But I've got the nandroid backup from EI22, just after I rooted and applied the GPS fix and silent camera mod, and I think the custom ROMs I've seen lately are all based on that, so would it work OK? The advanced restore of data seems like it would be a bit easier (or at least simpler) than using an app, but I don't know too much about how it works. Any clarifications about this would be appreciated. Thanks.
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I was wondering if you could provide a bit more info on the advanced restore data. I know it's an option available in CWM, but I'm wondering if there are situations where it wouldn't work as well as using some backup app. I think I read that if you were switching versions, like Froyo to Gingerbread, it probably wouldn't work well. But I've got the nandroid backup from EI22, just after I rooted and applied the GPS fix and silent camera mod, and I think the custom ROMs I've seen lately are all based on that, so would it work OK? The advanced restore of data seems like it would be a bit easier (or at least simpler) than using an app, but I don't know too much about how it works. Any clarifications about this would be appreciated. Thanks.
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It should work fine. It only restores 3rd party apps and data and the data folder of your phone. The other stuff should be in your phones system folder.
Well personally I would just do a clockwork backup like the previous guys said, and then advanced restore my data onto the new rom. I've been doing this with Rom installs for 2 years and it's always worked pretty well.
Anyways, if you really wanted to use TB that bad to do it, I would go into your SD card folder, copy the TB folder onto the computer (All your old backups you don't want to get rid of would be in here) Delete the TB Folder on your SD card, then re-run TB again. Do a batch backup of all your apps (that you have currently installed). If you ever want any of the old backups of apps you don't currently use, they'll always be on the computer.
Make a new label & add all the apps you have installed right now & and that you want to restore on your new rom. Then when your new rom setup is ready to restore apps just filter that label you made & bach restore
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Anyways, if you really wanted to use TB that bad to do it, I would go into your SD card folder, copy the TB folder onto the computer (All your old backups you don't want to get rid of would be in here) Delete the TB Folder on your SD card, then re-run TB again. Do a batch backup of all your apps (that you have currently installed). If you ever want any of the old backups of apps you don't currently use, they'll always be on the computer.
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Heh, exactly what I was getting ready to recommend, as this is a very easy way to do exactly what he wants
Thanks for saving me from having to type it out
Hello!
Since Yesterday I tried install EK02 few times. Everything good until I'm restoring data. Then I'm getting reboots by itself every 2 or 3 minutes and I can feel the device getting very hot.
I have no idea what causing the problem. Well, maybe only one idea I have. It might be some apps which is not compatible with 2.3.6 and messes up everything.
Question. How can I find this app if I have more than 200 installed apps on the device?
Maybe somebody have this problem too? If yes, can we contact somehow and try to find what is going on?
I've installed only stock roms. Installed from scratch.
Please, guys, I really need your advice?
Thank you!
Are you restoring data from a 2.3.4 setup? Also, unless you go through and re-install the apps from the market individually, it may be hard to pinpoint the exact issue
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Restoring system apps across different frameworks can cause undesirable results. I bet that's what your doing.
How many apps are you restoring. I found that if you have more than 50 apps on SD Card (apps2SD) it will cause hot reboots on EK02. This did not occur on EG30., I downgraded back to EG30 and kept the modem on EK02.
Does updating to EK02 remove your apps?
If you are using the OTA "patch" updates, no it won't remove any of your apps.
If you use the "full" EK02 updates, it'll remove the apps you have in /system but preserve the apps you have in /data (ie most of your apps)
Yep. And don't restore data.
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Restoring system apps across different frameworks can cause undesirable results. I bet that's what your doing.
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Yep. And don't restore data.
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I just started fresh and it took me about 45 minutes to get on a full EK02 setup and re-install all apps from the Market. If you take the time to start fresh, you will have less headaches in the long run
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Before ICS, restoring wasn't such a hassle because I could use Titanium Backup. I guess that doesn't work too well with any ICS ROMs (or, at least, AOKP).
So for those of you on either AOKP or CM9 - how are you restoring your **** after you wipe/flash? At this point, I'm doing it all manually which probably takes about 1-2 hours; 1-2 boooring hours!
Any tips?
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Before ICS, restoring wasn't such a hassle because I could use Titanium Backup. I guess that doesn't work too well with any ICS ROMs (or, at least, AOKP).
So for those of you on either AOKP or CM9 - how are you restoring your **** after you wipe/flash? At this point, I'm doing it all manually which probably takes about 1-2 hours; 1-2 boooring hours!
Any tips?
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I use My Backup Pro. Best backup app ever!
I used TB for a bit but found it giving me too many issues.
I know a lot of people prefer manual with the ICS leaks but I've had no issues since switching to My Backup Pro.
I dont restore....I like a clean rom.
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Before ICS, restoring wasn't such a hassle because I could use Titanium Backup. I guess that doesn't work too well with any ICS ROMs (or, at least, AOKP).
So for those of you on either AOKP or CM9 - how are you restoring your **** after you wipe/flash? At this point, I'm doing it all manually which probably takes about 1-2 hours; 1-2 boooring hours!
Any tips?
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Why aren't you able to use Titanium Back up? TB is what I used to restore my apps from a GB rom onto AOKP ICS.
I've used AOKP build 34 and cm9 alpha 3 and I've been able to use Titanium backup on both ROMS for Apps and App data. Others have said App data is probably a bad idea but so far I have had no trouble with it. Just make sure you don't restore system data. I accidently did that on my first flash, which was to the AOKP ROM and it screwed up SMS. However, just restoring Apps and data has worked fine for me on CM9 alpha 3 and AOKP 34, although others have said not to restore data for apps either so that's your call.
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I've used AOKP build 34 and cm9 alpha 3 and I've been able to use Titanium backup on both ROMS for Apps and App data. Others have said App data is probably a bad idea but so far I have had no trouble with it. Just make sure you don't restore system data. I accidently did that on my first flash, which was to the AOKP ROM and it screwed up SMS. However, just restoring Apps and data has worked fine for me on CM9 alpha 3 and AOKP 34, although others have said not to restore data for apps either so that's your call.
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Second on this as when I restored on ICS with TB it was only with apps and app data as well. System data is always pretty bad when you are restoring on a different Rom I think. I remember trying once when I flashed to CM7 and it completely screwed up the Rom and I had to wipe and reflash.
Its just not recommended guys its not like you can't do it. It was basically said so that there are not 100 posts about this not working and that not working all the while its because of a rogue app that had bad data. Try it if you want restore everything but if it goes bad for you then what... You got to start from scratch.
I am quite sure you do not need data restored for everything. Just do your apps and spot check which ones need data restored and get fix permissions from the market. If you get FC's after re installing data just run that to fix it up...
So TB away if you like but remember don't start complaining about bugs in rom threads if you do...
the recommendation from the install guide for cm9 tells to use "appbak" from the market, all it does is back up a list of apps you have then sends you to the market to download them fresh again, also i have noticed that gapps will automatically download many of the free apps saved to my account when i do a fresh install of a rom... you can always just download the apks from a third source and store them on your sd for quick install as well
Question is in the thread title.
In the past, when I had a Samsung Infuse 4G, MyBackupPro worked wonderfully for backing up apps and data before flashing a new ROM, and painlessly restoring apps and data after flashing a new ROM (by painlessly I mean all at once, as opposed to having to go through and click "restore" for each app and data). However, for whatever reason, MyBackupPro is not playing nicely with my Note 2. I can backup and all that, but restoration never occurs. In fact, most times it won't find the backup to even restore!
So, what is everybody's favorite/easiest way to backup before flashing a new ROM, and restoring after flashing a new ROM? Preferably a free option.
When I was working with the Infuse, I seem to remember lots of developers saying to NEVER restore data after flashing a new ROM. I don't understand why that is. I know people aren't starting their games and stuff over from scratch when they flash a new ROM, especially since many people change ROMs every couple of days.
Thanks in advance! :highfive:
I use titanium backup. Works great with the note 2.
When they are saying don't restore data they are talking about system data. If you backup everything including system apps and data and restore from that it can wreck havoc.
Just backing up user apps and data is fine to restore, at least I've never had a problem. I would just be wary going between touch wiz and aosp ROMs that could get a little dicey, but between the same type of ROMs(ice cm10.1 to aokp or pacman or aospa) should be fine.
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i used Helium (used to be Carbon) by Koush, the creator of CWM and ROM Manager) recently when i switched ROMs. i have always used Titanium Backup, but thought i would try Helium. the process is super easy and went very smoothly.
lukas_s said:
Question is in the thread title.
In the past, when I had a Samsung Infuse 4G, MyBackupPro worked wonderfully for backing up apps and data before flashing a new ROM, and painlessly restoring apps and data after flashing a new ROM (by painlessly I mean all at once, as opposed to having to go through and click "restore" for each app and data). However, for whatever reason, MyBackupPro is not playing nicely with my Note 2. I can backup and all that, but restoration never occurs. In fact, most times it won't find the backup to even restore!
So, what is everybody's favorite/easiest way to backup before flashing a new ROM, and restoring after flashing a new ROM? Preferably a free option.
When I was working with the Infuse, I seem to remember lots of developers saying to NEVER restore data after flashing a new ROM. I don't understand why that is. I know people aren't starting their games and stuff over from scratch when they flash a new ROM, especially since many people change ROMs every couple of days.
Thanks in advance! :highfive:
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I believe when it comes to backing up/moving apps + data, time, convenience or money saving should simply stay out of the decision making process. BUY the best there is, spend time to learn how to properly use the tool and that will give you the quickest, most convenient and money saving solution. In other words, this is where you shouldn't be cutting any corners. I would recommend either Titanium Backup Pro or ROM Toolbox Pro.
I bought Helium Premium and it worked beautifully. Now I have no reason not to try every ROM available for this phone. Thanks guys!
My backup pro + root will do the job nice. If you're not seeing your backups try going into settings and check that your backups are going to EXTENT sd.
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lukas_s said:
Question is in the thread title.
In the past, when I had a Samsung Infuse 4G, MyBackupPro worked wonderfully for backing up apps and data before flashing a new ROM, and painlessly restoring apps and data after flashing a new ROM (by painlessly I mean all at once, as opposed to having to go through and click "restore" for each app and data). However, for whatever reason, MyBackupPro is not playing nicely with my Note 2. I can backup and all that, but restoration never occurs. In fact, most times it won't find the backup to even restore!
So, what is everybody's favorite/easiest way to backup before flashing a new ROM, and restoring after flashing a new ROM? Preferably a free option.
When I was working with the Infuse, I seem to remember lots of developers saying to NEVER restore data after flashing a new ROM. I don't understand why that is. I know people aren't starting their games and stuff over from scratch when they flash a new ROM, especially since many people change ROMs every couple of days.
Thanks in advance! :highfive:
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Dude I want the premium version of this app...Can you please provide me
I've been using titanium backup pro. It works pretty well, and it's pretty fast. Sometimes there are problems accessing my backup folder after a new flash, but restarting and fixing permissions will usually fix it.
yhzh said:
I've been using titanium backup pro. It works pretty well, and it's pretty fast. Sometimes there are problems accessing my backup folder after a new flash, but restarting and fixing permissions will usually fix it.
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did you set the backup location under settings when you redownloaded the app to point to the location of your backup folder?
+1 titanium backup..when restoring after a rom install..make sure to restore only apps never restore apos wirh chemicals system data...you'll have conflicts then.
Titanium backup is the best in my opinion. .you can backup bookmarks, message sms, call logs and even send them to dropbox and restore them just as easy...
I agree that Ti Backup is a good option. I wont say its the best period, but it is the best that I have used.
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Dude I want the premium version of this app...Can you please provide me
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Enjoy
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rerware.android.MyBackupPro&hl=en