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Backing up befroe rooting

SO i finally decided to root my phone but i have a couple questions. my phone is pretty dam customized an di spent several hours doing it (ie- installed programs, have game save files, custom, desktops, ringtone, alerts, accounts, facebook contacts linked with gmail contacts...)
so first question- using backup pro or any other backup program if a backup is created once the phone is rooted can i run the restore to get all my programs and settings back?
also i know to root your phoen you need to overwrite the sd card. if i copy all my info off the sd card, can i copy it right back once the root is complete (ie- pics, game saves...)
anything esle i should know before rooting.
fyi- i have worked for several tyears as a windows,systems/network admin, so the technical part of rooting is not my question is the backup and recovery of the programs and settings and such
thanks in advance

I am not an expert but maybe this answer can help.
As far as backing up and restoring, u should be fine with whatever program u use. Rooting just gives u super user access to the root directory, but doesn't actually overwrite anything that would prevent u from restoring programs u had backed up. Installing a custom rom however is more of re-writing of the underlying software, which then forces you to put a lot more effort back into restoring (i.e. home screen layout, widgets,...).
As far as your sd card, I didn't have to wipe or reformat mine when I rooted. In fact I am using the same card I had in my moto droid. I may have formatted to fat32 at one point back then, but I do not recall having to re-wipe when rooting my Dinc.
Hope this helps.
P.s. I also recommend switching to titanium backup once rooted. It is by far the best backup and restore utility out there. Also, u may want to post questions like this in the proper forum, not the dev forum. People tend to get peeved by improper posting.
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I'll repost in the correct spot. dont wanna ruffle any feathers. ya know its just i put so much work into customizing the phone i dont want to have to redo it. but as long as i document what i have done i should be able to redo it all myslef if the backup fails. the program i use it mybackup pro btw

All the back up apps require root. Rooting will not delete any of your data. Root and do a nandroid

Not all backup apps require root, just the better ones. I like titanium because it will save your customizations as well as your apps.
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so can someone briefly explain how they would go about- backing up, moving data off card, then rooting? (obv i dont need rooting instructions)
thanks

I'm not a pro at this stuff but from my experience your worrying about stuff you really don't need to at this point. Rooting itself isn't gonna delete anything. It's just gonna give you more access to your phone. You still have the same radio, same hboot, and same OS version and kernel.
All I'm saying is download unrevoked3, root your phone, then first thing do a nandroid backup and boom your backed up. And after you boot it up download Titanium Backup and start backing up.

shehababbassi said:
so can someone briefly explain how they would go about- backing up, moving data off card, then rooting? (obv i dont need rooting instructions)
Not sure exactly what you're looking for, but if it's to transfer all the files from your sd card to your computer, wipe & format and then re-add, then it depends on your computer. I have a mac so I save a backup copy of my sd card on my desktop by mounting my phone as a disk drive when I plug it in, and then drag and drop all the files I want to save (or transfer to my phone). This will also transfer your backup files as well (assuming they are being saved to your sd card).
Eno is right though, you are getting ahead of yourself right now.
Root, do a nandroid backup, get titanium and then have fun with your newly rooted phone.
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I have also been backing up my texts with SMS Backup. I haven't had any luck with just restoring data from titanium. But as they're saying, root is really the first step.
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Also, with any new ROM I loose call log data. Anyone know a fix for that?
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HarrisonBP said:
Also, with any new ROM I loose call log data. Anyone know a fix for that?
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Every time I flash a new Rom I do sms backup and restore, call log backup and restore, and apn backup and restore. All of which are from the same dev. Call logs backup and restore is what you are looking for but an apn backup is always handy.

Is there anyway to automate the installation and setup of apps

when say going from stock 2.2 to cm 6.1.1? What id like is to say, take a list of my currently installed apps on the froyo, or from a backup, and make a list of them to be installed, with the accounts and what not set up. or, mount a backup so i can look at the apps i have installed and their passwords.

Titanium Backup

zkid2010 said:
Titanium Backup
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You can use titanium to install apps from other android versions? Because with the backup that comes with cwm, i tried restoring just the data after going to cm 6.1.1 and i got a weird little half brick device until i manually booted into recovery and reinstalled the rooted stock back up i made. now i wanna go back to cm 6.1.1 but i dont feel like writing a bunch of stuff down.

jenlow said:
You can use titanium to install apps from other android versions? Because with the backup that comes with cwm, i tried restoring just the data after going to cm 6.1.1 and i got a weird little half brick device until i manually booted into recovery and reinstalled the rooted stock back up i made. now i wanna go back to cm 6.1.1 but i dont feel like writing a bunch of stuff down.
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Works for me when I say restore back a 6.1.1 after running some 2.3. Usually I'm restoring (apps + data) stuff like setCPU_donate and other 3rd party apps and settings. Couldn't hurt but I'll tell you, messing with restoring anything other than a full rom backup in CWM makes me a bit nervous. Luckily there are alot of things to do what you're asking.

Yeah it made me nervous too after i did it. I didnt figure that user data itself would cause a perma brick though. But i was almost completely sure it wouldnt work at the time. And now i am completely sure. Yeah i downloaded titanium back up, and i backed up the apps i wanted to save the account info for, so we'll see what happens after cm gets done doin its thing.

Yes, Titanium Backup will backup not only the app, but also the user data as well - which is *way* handy.
It'll also backup system apps, so you do need to kinda watch what you're restoring (the free version of Titanium Backup makes you manually confirm every single app you restore, so it's a bit harder to screw up). It's a pretty sweet app, highly recommended.
Installing/restoring between versions is no problem.

yeah, it is pretty handy. Except when it came to swype.

Quick Q for Titanium. When I do a batch operation, it still asks me if I want to install the apk and then another if i want to open it or hit done. Is there a way to bypass those screens?

funkeee said:
Quick Q for Titanium. When I do a batch operation, it still asks me if I want to install the apk and then another if i want to open it or hit done. Is there a way to bypass those screens?
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Only if you buy the Pro version or whatever. It's not too expensive. I actually kinda like those screens, as it gives me a double-check so I don't install something I didn't want to.

[Q] Best backup options for 1.72OTA?

I have a UK Desire Z, which I love!!! I have been reading up on rooting, and after researching a lot, I have got ADB up and running and am now comfortable using it. The next step is to permanent root/s-off so that i can install gingervillain.
The questions I have is this. I have the 1.72 ota update, so Im going to have to downgrade to do all of the above, and with this will be wiping my phone. but I have a lot of apps and things on my phone. Contacts im not so worried about as it syncs with my gmail, and I will backup the sd card on my pc. But for all the apps and other settings, what is the best backup solution. i know of titanium backup, but with that can I back it up on 1.72 ota and restore it into gingervillain? I know once ive fully rooted it and installed clockwork mod recovery I can do a full backup of the phone, but is there an efficient way to migrate everything from my 1.72 to a new rom? I know I will be getting temproot first in 1.72, so can use things like titanium backup before the wipe.
Thanks

Titanium Backup works really well. Been using it for several months now. I bought the pro version for batch restore of apps.
You will be able to use it just fine to back up all your apps then restore them all together into any other ROM you flash. They all stay in the Titanium Backup folder on your SDcard. The nice thing about it is that it saves all the app data as well (assuming you choose to back that up), which allows your apps to be restored to the exact point at which they were on the original ROM (aka game save states, passwords, preferences, etc.)

martonikaj said:
Titanium Backup works really well. Been using it for several months now. I bought the pro version for batch restore of apps.
You will be able to use it just fine to back up all your apps then restore them all together into any other ROM you flash. They all stay in the Titanium Backup folder on your SDcard. The nice thing about it is that it saves all the app data as well (assuming you choose to back that up), which allows your apps to be restored to the exact point at which they were on the original ROM (aka game save states, passwords, preferences, etc.)
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Thanks,Thats perfect. I think I may just buy the pro version so i can batch restore then!

moblo said:
Thanks,Thats perfect. I think I may just buy the pro version so i can batch restore then!
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Cool, hope it works the way you expect.

How do you get Google Backup to Restore Apps (on gingerbread)

My understanding is that GingerBread (2.3.x) will handle automatically restoring your apps after a wipe or you switch between ROM (each with clean wipe).
It asks about "backing up google".
I'm currently using MikG 0.5 and was using MikG RC1 for quite a while (since it was released 3 weeks?).
I was hoping starting with a fresh wipe it would restore my apps but it does not.
I think on one of these gingerbread ROMs (I've tried a bunch) I think it did partially restore apps. Not just paid ones. I forget if it was complete or not.
Is there something explicit you have to do to make this all work?

mswlogo said:
My understanding is that GingerBread (2.3.x) will handle automatically restoring your apps after a wipe or you switch between ROM (each with clean wipe).
It asks about "backing up google".
I'm currently using MikG 0.5 and was using MikG RC1 for quite a while (since it was released 3 weeks?).
I was hoping starting with a fresh wipe it would restore my apps but it does not.
I think on one of these gingerbread ROMs (I've tried a bunch) I think it did partially restore apps. Not just paid ones. I forget if it was complete or not.
Is there something explicit you have to do to make this all work?
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That still seems to be hit or miss. Is there any reason you're not using Titanium Backup?

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That still seems to be hit or miss. Is there any reason you're not using Titanium Backup?
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Because I don't like it. Recently I wanted to use it for a piece of software for TTS I bought and was no longer available in the Market. And it completely fell on it's face. All I did was copy the APK from system from a restored back up and it installed fine.
I also don't want to restore potentially incompatible apps. I assume Google will trigger Market to install latest right from the start.
I also don't have to explicitly choose what to back up and what to restore.
I've seen the Google Stuff work, and it works well when it works.

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Because I don't like it. Recently I wanted to use it for a piece of software for TTS I bought and was no longer available in the Market. And it completely fell on it's face. All I did was copy the APK from system from a restored back up and it installed fine.
I also don't want to restore potentially incompatible apps. I assume Google will trigger Market to install latest right from the start.
I also don't have to explicitly choose what to back up and what to restore.
I've seen the Google Stuff work, and it works well when it works.
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That's the problem. Honestly, TB can be complicated to use but what you're describing sounds like user error. You also don't have to explicitly choose what to backup and restore in TB either. Just go into Menu > Batch > Backup all user apps to backup and then Restore all user apps when you want to restore. Then just use the Market to update any out of date apps. It takes forever for the Market to get your apps back anyway, I always use TB and so does almost anyone else on a custom ROM.

Call me a purist, but I don't like Titanium Backup either. Granted, I don't use a ton of market apps, only about a dozen or so ... just not a problem. To get back to the original question, Google has always restored my apps on CM6/7, up to and including the 3-7 gapps. The newer gapps used with Android 2.3.4 are where everything began to break down.

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That's the problem. Honestly, TB can be complicated to use but what you're describing sounds like user error. You also don't have to explicitly choose what to backup and restore in TB either. Just go into Menu > Batch > Backup all user apps to backup and then Restore all user apps when you want to restore. Then just use the Market to update any out of date apps. It takes forever for the Market to get your apps back anyway, I always use TB and so does almost anyone else on a custom ROM.
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I don't want to back it up like that. I think it causes problems.
I backed up this app explicitly, went to restore explicitly and it didn't work. Pretty Simple.
I'd like the google feature. I want something that coordinates with the mark app and installs the instead if the backup is old.

mswlogo said:
I don't want to back it up like that. I think it causes problems.
I backed up this app explicitly, went to restore explicitly and it didn't work. Pretty Simple.
I'd like the google feature. I want something that coordinates with the mark app and installs the instead if the backup is old.
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Good luck

At My Wits End

ok so heres what has happened. I dropped and broke my Sprint Gs3 scrren + digitizer. Luckily i was on someone elses plan at the time, so i simply created a new plan in my name and got a replacement Gs3 that way. (since the plan i was on had no insurance).
The problem im having is with only 1 app in particular. Its a game called Guilty Dragon, and its only in Japanese. i didnt know until i broke the first phone, that all my character data is stored in 'data/app' folder. the game itself lets you backup you character via logging into twitter, which is supposed to make it easy to migrate your character in situations like this one. Problem is, every time i try to use that twitter function to restore my character data to my new phone, the app crashes. I've already contacted Namco Bandai in Japanese, still no response from them about this. I was hoping there would be some way to get the data/app folder backed up from the original, now broken digitizer, phone, since it is still recognized on my pc with a usb cable. I've tried APK Batch Installer tool v1.5, but it did not back up the data like it said it did, instead it put an empty data folder in the backup directory. Any help, thoughts or suggestions would be much appreciated, im on a SPH-L710 with JellyBombRom v13.0.0 , i tried updating to v 15 at first but it was doing the same thing with this app so i thought maybe it was the cause, downgraded to what i had before and still the same problem. I dont think its a problem with the rom though since i even just basic rooted and tried the game before flashing roms and it still also did the same thing.

Is the broken phone rooted? If not, then there's no way you can access the broken phones /data/app directory.
You could potentially try doing an adb backup (Google it) and it may or may not back that up
It your phone is rooted you could also initiate a recovery backup onto the ext sdcard (yes, while the phone is still booted up) and then just advanced restore the data

CNexus said:
Is the broken phone rooted? If not, then there's no way you can access the broken phones /data/app directory.
You could potentially try doing an adb backup (Google it) and it may or may not back that up
It your phone is rooted you could also initiate a recovery backup onto the ext sdcard (yes, while the phone is still booted up) and then just advanced restore the data
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yes the old phone is rooted, they are both basically the same TWRP recovery with JellyBomb v13.0.0. how am i supposed to do a recovery backup (I'm guessing you mean nandroid) when TWRP needs you to touch it to do so, and my digitizer is broken?

CharmingNotSincere said:
yes the old phone is rooted, they are both basically the same TWRP recovery with JellyBomb v13.0.0. how am i supposed to do a recovery backup (I'm guessing you mean nandroid) when TWRP needs you to touch it to do so, and my digitizer is broken?
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Maybe try this????
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1818321

tkepk181 said:
Maybe try this????
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1818321
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That, or online nandroid dude

Maybe i should point out that the nandroid is not going to help. I already had a nandroid backup of the old phone, when i restored it on the new phone, data/app was not carried over or not backed up by the nandroid. the app itself works on bluestacks, using the Twitter account migration method, but it just keeps force closing on the phone.

CharmingNotSincere said:
Maybe i should point out that the nandroid is not going to help. I already had a nandroid backup of the old phone, when i restored it on the new phone, data/app was not carried over or not backed up by the nandroid. the app itself works on bluestacks, using the Twitter account migration method, but it just keeps force closing on the phone.
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Then you didn't make a proper nandroid or select the right options. A nandroid essentially copies your entire rom and put its in a folder on your sdcard. Either you did something wrong, or the nandroid didn't go right.

CNexus said:
Then you didn't make a proper nandroid or select the right options. A nandroid essentially copies your entire rom and put its in a folder on your sdcard. Either you did something wrong, or the nandroid didn't go right.
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Could it also be that the game data is linked to the Android ID (also known as ) of the phone? I know for some games, even if I restored my TiBu backups it wouldn't work because the Android ID changed. I know with TiBu Pro you can change it. I don't think that'd cause the FCs on the app... most likely shoddy programing caused that.

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Could it also be that the game data is linked to the Android ID (also known as ) of the phone? I know for some games, even if I restored my TiBu backups it wouldn't work because the Android ID changed. I know with TiBu Pro you can change it. I don't think that'd cause the FCs on the app... most likely shoddy programing caused that.
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hmm, might be worth buying TiBu pro if i can change it and try that. how would i be able to find my old id though with a broken Digitizer? Only other thing i can think of is that , there were some reports of the twitter backup not working for a few users on the version before last, i Migrated to bluestacks after my first phone broke, using v2.1 of the game, once i got my new phone there was a new apk release for v2.2 of the game, might be causing the twitter migration option to not work again. With TWRP its pretty damn fool proof to make a nandroid, just hit backup, then swipe, and system data boot and recovery are selected choices by default. could it be that The Android ID is conflicting with the nandroid also? i have like 10 nandroid backups i can try from, only tried 2 so far, maybe ill try a few more.

CharmingNotSincere said:
hmm, might be worth buying TiBu pro if i can change it and try that. how would i be able to find my old id though with a broken Digitizer? Only other thing i can think of is that , there were some reports of the twitter backup not working for a few users on the version before last, i Migrated to bluestacks after my first phone broke, using v2.1 of the game, once i got my new phone there was a new apk release for v2.2 of the game, might be causing the twitter migration option to not work again. With TWRP its pretty damn fool proof to make a nandroid, just hit backup, then swipe, and system data boot and recovery are selected choices by default. could it be that The Android ID is conflicting with the nandroid also? i have like 10 nandroid backups i can try from, only tried 2 so far, maybe ill try a few more.
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Open your backup and go to /data/data/package-name-of-game-here/ and check to see if that directory even exists and if there are files there.