Before ICS, restoring wasn't such a hassle because I could use Titanium Backup. I guess that doesn't work too well with any ICS ROMs (or, at least, AOKP).
So for those of you on either AOKP or CM9 - how are you restoring your **** after you wipe/flash? At this point, I'm doing it all manually which probably takes about 1-2 hours; 1-2 boooring hours!
Any tips?
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Before ICS, restoring wasn't such a hassle because I could use Titanium Backup. I guess that doesn't work too well with any ICS ROMs (or, at least, AOKP).
So for those of you on either AOKP or CM9 - how are you restoring your **** after you wipe/flash? At this point, I'm doing it all manually which probably takes about 1-2 hours; 1-2 boooring hours!
Any tips?
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I use My Backup Pro. Best backup app ever!
I used TB for a bit but found it giving me too many issues.
I know a lot of people prefer manual with the ICS leaks but I've had no issues since switching to My Backup Pro.
I dont restore....I like a clean rom.
ralexand said:
Before ICS, restoring wasn't such a hassle because I could use Titanium Backup. I guess that doesn't work too well with any ICS ROMs (or, at least, AOKP).
So for those of you on either AOKP or CM9 - how are you restoring your **** after you wipe/flash? At this point, I'm doing it all manually which probably takes about 1-2 hours; 1-2 boooring hours!
Any tips?
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Why aren't you able to use Titanium Back up? TB is what I used to restore my apps from a GB rom onto AOKP ICS.
I've used AOKP build 34 and cm9 alpha 3 and I've been able to use Titanium backup on both ROMS for Apps and App data. Others have said App data is probably a bad idea but so far I have had no trouble with it. Just make sure you don't restore system data. I accidently did that on my first flash, which was to the AOKP ROM and it screwed up SMS. However, just restoring Apps and data has worked fine for me on CM9 alpha 3 and AOKP 34, although others have said not to restore data for apps either so that's your call.
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I've used AOKP build 34 and cm9 alpha 3 and I've been able to use Titanium backup on both ROMS for Apps and App data. Others have said App data is probably a bad idea but so far I have had no trouble with it. Just make sure you don't restore system data. I accidently did that on my first flash, which was to the AOKP ROM and it screwed up SMS. However, just restoring Apps and data has worked fine for me on CM9 alpha 3 and AOKP 34, although others have said not to restore data for apps either so that's your call.
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Second on this as when I restored on ICS with TB it was only with apps and app data as well. System data is always pretty bad when you are restoring on a different Rom I think. I remember trying once when I flashed to CM7 and it completely screwed up the Rom and I had to wipe and reflash.
Its just not recommended guys its not like you can't do it. It was basically said so that there are not 100 posts about this not working and that not working all the while its because of a rogue app that had bad data. Try it if you want restore everything but if it goes bad for you then what... You got to start from scratch.
I am quite sure you do not need data restored for everything. Just do your apps and spot check which ones need data restored and get fix permissions from the market. If you get FC's after re installing data just run that to fix it up...
So TB away if you like but remember don't start complaining about bugs in rom threads if you do...
the recommendation from the install guide for cm9 tells to use "appbak" from the market, all it does is back up a list of apps you have then sends you to the market to download them fresh again, also i have noticed that gapps will automatically download many of the free apps saved to my account when i do a fresh install of a rom... you can always just download the apks from a third source and store them on your sd for quick install as well
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Ok, so to me this program seems great - backs up pretty much EVERYTHING for me, so that if I flash and wipe a new rom, it restores everything to a usable level. Now my issue is I can't understand what people mean when they say you might as well not wipe at all. If you can't use TB to restore after a wipe, what is the point of using TB at all???
Is there a way to select parts that are "ok" to restore after a wipe? or is TB pretty much pointless?
Thanks
Read this it will help explain how TB can mess with your ROM.
http://geekfor.me/faq/why-you-shouldnt-be-using/
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Read this it will help explain how TB can mess with your ROM.
http://geekfor.me/faq/why-you-shouldnt-be-using/
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Thanks I read that but his post didn't really make it clear for me:
problem is that when a user makes the backup on one rom/build/version and imports it on another
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What exactly does this mean? I am running CM6 nightlies. Should it be wiped and not restored via TB each time? What about going from RC1 to RC2?
If the situation is such that you can restore via TB, then why not just flash the new one and skip wiping altogether?
Well one nice thing about Cm rom's is you can have google backup all the programs you download from the Market so no need for TB there. Where the problems can lie with TB is the SQLlite database files when restoring your user settings. If something has changed from rom versions and you restore your old sqllite settings and now its missing some information thats needed for the newer version rom it can cause problems like force closes or reboots.
For nightly's I just upgrade without a wipe. If I do have any quirks then I try a wipe which usually fixes whatever quirk I'm having.
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Well one nice thing about Cm rom's is you can have google backup all the programs you download from the Market so no need for TB there. Where the problems can lie with TB is the SQLlite database files when restoring your user settings. If something has changed from rom versions and you restore your old sqllite settings and now its missing some information thats needed for the newer version rom it can cause problems like force closes or reboots.
For nightly's I just upgrade without a wipe. If I do have any quirks then I try a wipe which usually fixes whatever quirk I'm having.
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yeah, I've been skipping the wipe unless there is a quirk.
So basically it sounds like TB is a total waste of time if you are running CM6? Sorry... just hard for me to understand why people love the program so much if there is no real application for it? Or is it just outdated by the backing up with Google?
it's like this - TB allows you to backup apps and settings. You may want to use this in addition to the backup that google provides - what if you find a great app, but its removed from the market? I don't think that the google backup will help you then - it will only restore what's currently in the market (disclaimer - I don't use CM6, so I'm not 100% on that).
The waste of time thing comes into play with people who have issues with a rom, so they re-flash the rom and restore apps and settings with TB. It might have been some of the settings (that were just restored with TB) that were causing the issues in the first place.
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it's like this - TB allows you to backup apps and settings. You may want to use this in addition to the backup that google provides - what if you find a great app, but its removed from the market? I don't think that the google backup will help you then - it will only restore what's currently in the market (disclaimer - I don't use CM6, so I'm not 100% on that).
The waste of time thing comes into play with people who have issues with a rom, so they re-flash the rom and restore apps and settings with TB. It might have been some of the settings (that were just restored with TB) that were causing the issues in the first place.
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^what he said
I LOVE TB but I use it to restore my apps and their data ONLY, I do not use it to restore system data.
I think with tb....when you restore your apps you have the choice to restore the apps with out the user data. Also you can choose to wipe them of data Before you restore.
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berardi said:
yeah, I've been skipping the wipe unless there is a quirk.
So basically it sounds like TB is a total waste of time if you are running CM6? Sorry... just hard for me to understand why people love the program so much if there is no real application for it? Or is it just outdated by the backing up with Google?
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Unlike Google's backup, TB backs up your /data/data folder, not just the APK's from your market-downloaded applications.
In other words, it backs up your application data, your apps you installed manually/downloaded, and all of your settings, such as Bluetooth name and pairings, WiFi networks (and security settings), etc.
My rule of thumb is, if going from one build to another (ie, Stock to CM6, etc.) then do NOT restore any system settings/apps. Just do a backup of YOUR apps, as-is, move over to the new ROM, restore apps and their settings, then go to the Market and update everything. Simple as that, and you shouldn't get any errors.
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it's like this - TB allows you to backup apps and settings. You may want to use this in addition to the backup that google provides - what if you find a great app, but its removed from the market? I don't think that the google backup will help you then - it will only restore what's currently in the market (disclaimer - I don't use CM6, so I'm not 100% on that).
The waste of time thing comes into play with people who have issues with a rom, so they re-flash the rom and restore apps and settings with TB. It might have been some of the settings (that were just restored with TB) that were causing the issues in the first place.
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Thanks that definitely helps. Market-removed apps seems like a good reason to have it. (I already bought it just trying to determine how to use it anyways)
Ok so is it fair enough to say it has a relatively "niche" market with the addition of market backups? I hate to be a bull in the ChinaShop but it seems like people really tip toe around the idea of TB being outdated by market backups. I get the general idea of what you guys are saying but I'm trying to decide what I want to do in personal practice.
I don't think I've experienced any issues but who knows if I've had less than optimal performance because of restoring previous settings. Are there any "safe" items that can be backed up and restored or is nothing really "safe" they all have entries in sqlite database that might be duplicated?
Thanks again guys for humoring me
My understanding is that GingerBread (2.3.x) will handle automatically restoring your apps after a wipe or you switch between ROM (each with clean wipe).
It asks about "backing up google".
I'm currently using MikG 0.5 and was using MikG RC1 for quite a while (since it was released 3 weeks?).
I was hoping starting with a fresh wipe it would restore my apps but it does not.
I think on one of these gingerbread ROMs (I've tried a bunch) I think it did partially restore apps. Not just paid ones. I forget if it was complete or not.
Is there something explicit you have to do to make this all work?
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My understanding is that GingerBread (2.3.x) will handle automatically restoring your apps after a wipe or you switch between ROM (each with clean wipe).
It asks about "backing up google".
I'm currently using MikG 0.5 and was using MikG RC1 for quite a while (since it was released 3 weeks?).
I was hoping starting with a fresh wipe it would restore my apps but it does not.
I think on one of these gingerbread ROMs (I've tried a bunch) I think it did partially restore apps. Not just paid ones. I forget if it was complete or not.
Is there something explicit you have to do to make this all work?
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That still seems to be hit or miss. Is there any reason you're not using Titanium Backup?
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That still seems to be hit or miss. Is there any reason you're not using Titanium Backup?
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Because I don't like it. Recently I wanted to use it for a piece of software for TTS I bought and was no longer available in the Market. And it completely fell on it's face. All I did was copy the APK from system from a restored back up and it installed fine.
I also don't want to restore potentially incompatible apps. I assume Google will trigger Market to install latest right from the start.
I also don't have to explicitly choose what to back up and what to restore.
I've seen the Google Stuff work, and it works well when it works.
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Because I don't like it. Recently I wanted to use it for a piece of software for TTS I bought and was no longer available in the Market. And it completely fell on it's face. All I did was copy the APK from system from a restored back up and it installed fine.
I also don't want to restore potentially incompatible apps. I assume Google will trigger Market to install latest right from the start.
I also don't have to explicitly choose what to back up and what to restore.
I've seen the Google Stuff work, and it works well when it works.
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That's the problem. Honestly, TB can be complicated to use but what you're describing sounds like user error. You also don't have to explicitly choose what to backup and restore in TB either. Just go into Menu > Batch > Backup all user apps to backup and then Restore all user apps when you want to restore. Then just use the Market to update any out of date apps. It takes forever for the Market to get your apps back anyway, I always use TB and so does almost anyone else on a custom ROM.
Call me a purist, but I don't like Titanium Backup either. Granted, I don't use a ton of market apps, only about a dozen or so ... just not a problem. To get back to the original question, Google has always restored my apps on CM6/7, up to and including the 3-7 gapps. The newer gapps used with Android 2.3.4 are where everything began to break down.
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That's the problem. Honestly, TB can be complicated to use but what you're describing sounds like user error. You also don't have to explicitly choose what to backup and restore in TB either. Just go into Menu > Batch > Backup all user apps to backup and then Restore all user apps when you want to restore. Then just use the Market to update any out of date apps. It takes forever for the Market to get your apps back anyway, I always use TB and so does almost anyone else on a custom ROM.
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I don't want to back it up like that. I think it causes problems.
I backed up this app explicitly, went to restore explicitly and it didn't work. Pretty Simple.
I'd like the google feature. I want something that coordinates with the mark app and installs the instead if the backup is old.
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I don't want to back it up like that. I think it causes problems.
I backed up this app explicitly, went to restore explicitly and it didn't work. Pretty Simple.
I'd like the google feature. I want something that coordinates with the mark app and installs the instead if the backup is old.
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Good luck
I'm bouncing around and trying out different ROMs. I've been on Jelly Belly for a while, but I'm wanting to try out the official CM9 RC2 and the initial CM10 builds. I've got titanium backup and I'm curious about different System data restore options. I know there is a "System Data Migration" option. Will this let me restore any system data between any rom? For instance, I'm on a JB version now. Can I restore that to the ICS CM9? What are the limits of System Data Migration?
I'm not sure if an update has fixed it, but it's been widely reported that restoring system apps on JB with Titanium is not a good idea
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I'm not sure if an update has fixed it, but it's been widely reported that restoring system apps on JB with Titanium is not a good idea
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First off, this thread should have been in Q&A. Sorry mods.
Second, thanks for the response. I don't want to get myself in trouble so I might just forget system data and restore SMS with SMS backup and apps with Titanium.
Nothing really bad happens (your phone won't explode) but it's either the apps won't restore, you get fcs, or it bootloops. I can't remember which exactly since I don't use TiBu.
But for apps it works perfectly. Hopefully the devs will be able to issue a fix soon
I know there are issues with some apps when restoring data from ICS to GB, as I have experienced the lot of FCs that occur when you do so. Searched quite a bit to see if there was anything like this posted, so forgive me if I didn't have the correct parameters in my search and missed it.
It got me thinking...
Is it possible to edit any of the files within the Titanium Backup data to make it compatible from one to the other and vice versa or would it "brick" the data?
If it's possible, would someone be willing to share their Titanium Backup of GB data (from Temple Run or Fruit Ninja preferably as it seems to effect games more often than not) so I can look into it a bit further [EDIT: by comparing the data files to my ICS backups]?
If not, then I guess we're SOL.
Yea, some of my saved games wouldn't even load back on gb. Had to start all over again on blast monkeys.
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Jaxp3r said:
I know there are issues with some apps when restoring data from ICS to GB, as I have experienced the lot of FCs that occur when you do so. Searched quite a bit to see if there was anything like this posted, so forgive me if I didn't have the correct parameters in my search and missed it.
It got me thinking...
Is it possible to edit any of the files within the Titanium Backup data to make it compatible from one to the other and vice versa or would it "brick" the data?
If it's possible, would someone be willing to share their Titanium Backup of GB data (from Temple Run or Fruit Ninja preferably as it seems to effect games more often than not) so I can look into it a bit further [EDIT: by comparing the data files to my ICS backups]?
If not, then I guess we're SOL.
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While I admire the initiative to learn to bend android to your will... This ^^^ idea would be very involved, take some specific tools, (to extract the images), and incredible know how to alter things accordingly. Pretty sure the process would involve flashing your target operating system, creating a TB back up of said game, app, etc, then painstakingly diffing it against your existing backup from other android version.
Might just be easier to start fresh with the game or app on gb, ics, jb, Froyo, whatever, then create a new group in TB where you backup said data, based on version of android.
That's what I do.
"Hey, that's not a bug, that's a feature!" Linus Torvalds, 2001
Can't you just backup the app/data, then on a fresh flash, install the app form Market, the restore data with TB?
jamieg71 said:
While I admire the initiative to learn to bend android to your will... This ^^^ idea would be very involved, take some specific tools, (to extract the images), and incredible know how to alter things accordingly. Pretty sure the process would involve flashing your target operating system, creating a TB back up of said game, app, etc, then painstakingly diffing it against your existing backup from other android version.
Might just be easier to start fresh with the game or app on gb, ics, jb, Froyo, whatever, then create a new group in TB where you backup said data, based on version of android.
That's what I do.
"Hey, that's not a bug, that's a feature!" Linus Torvalds, 2001
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I'll look into it this weekend if I have time for the multi-flashing, else it would be great if someone could share their GB Titanium Backup of some app (as mentioned, preferably Temple Run) and I would just dive right in.
HipKat said:
Can't you just backup the app/data, then on a fresh flash, install the app form Market, the restore data with TB?
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Unfortunately no, not when going from ICS to GB. From ICS to ICS or GB to GB, yes.
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Unfortunately no, not when going from ICS to GB. From ICS to ICS or GB to GB, yes.
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Hmm, odd, because I have gone back and forth from ICS to GB and back without a problem
HipKat said:
Hmm, odd, because I have gone back and forth from ICS to GB and back without a problem
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If that's the case, my guess is that it's dependent on the app then.
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Had no time to do multiple flashes this weekend. If someone else has time to do so, or if they're already on GB, it would be appreciated if you could post your Titanium Backup of an app (Temple Run preferred).
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Hmm, odd, because I have gone back and forth from ICS to GB and back without a problem
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As usual, HipKat is correct. :good:
I had some time to flash Reloaded this morning and did a restore of my Temple Run's Titanium Backup (TB from now on). Lo and behold, it force closed right away. From there, I went into manage applications to clear the data. After clearing, I opened Temple Run again, to do a run so I could prep it for a TB, to compare the GB files to the previous ICS files that I had.
After clearing the data, however, it seemed to get rid of the FC issue, but still maintained the TB data, meaning that the ICS data was still intact, and functional after flashing back to GB. :victory::victory:
Hopefully this is the case for everyone. I'll report back shortly to see if it works again, because I believe I have a faulty download of the Reloaded .zip causing Aroma to not install everything that I selected. I'm currently re-downloading the .zip as I type this out, so I'll be re-flashing shortly. Once I re-flash (and hopefully the Aroma options carry over this time), I'll check and see if the TB data will be maintained again.
I don't know if it's fixed, because I've been of Reloaded for a while, but as it was, installing TB from Aroma caused and FC. What I do is add the tb app and it's lib file to the ROM.zip before I flash it so it's pre-installed
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I don't know if it's fixed, because I've been of Reloaded for a while, but as it was, installing TB from Aroma caused and FC. What I do is add the tb app and it's lib file to the ROM.zip before I flash it so it's pre-installed
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Yeah..I am seeing no probs either. I have been back and forth from GB and ics all week. I usually flash the fresh ROM, then go to market and install tb fresh before restoring app and ata, no fc at all...all is well
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Question is in the thread title.
In the past, when I had a Samsung Infuse 4G, MyBackupPro worked wonderfully for backing up apps and data before flashing a new ROM, and painlessly restoring apps and data after flashing a new ROM (by painlessly I mean all at once, as opposed to having to go through and click "restore" for each app and data). However, for whatever reason, MyBackupPro is not playing nicely with my Note 2. I can backup and all that, but restoration never occurs. In fact, most times it won't find the backup to even restore!
So, what is everybody's favorite/easiest way to backup before flashing a new ROM, and restoring after flashing a new ROM? Preferably a free option.
When I was working with the Infuse, I seem to remember lots of developers saying to NEVER restore data after flashing a new ROM. I don't understand why that is. I know people aren't starting their games and stuff over from scratch when they flash a new ROM, especially since many people change ROMs every couple of days.
Thanks in advance! :highfive:
I use titanium backup. Works great with the note 2.
When they are saying don't restore data they are talking about system data. If you backup everything including system apps and data and restore from that it can wreck havoc.
Just backing up user apps and data is fine to restore, at least I've never had a problem. I would just be wary going between touch wiz and aosp ROMs that could get a little dicey, but between the same type of ROMs(ice cm10.1 to aokp or pacman or aospa) should be fine.
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i used Helium (used to be Carbon) by Koush, the creator of CWM and ROM Manager) recently when i switched ROMs. i have always used Titanium Backup, but thought i would try Helium. the process is super easy and went very smoothly.
lukas_s said:
Question is in the thread title.
In the past, when I had a Samsung Infuse 4G, MyBackupPro worked wonderfully for backing up apps and data before flashing a new ROM, and painlessly restoring apps and data after flashing a new ROM (by painlessly I mean all at once, as opposed to having to go through and click "restore" for each app and data). However, for whatever reason, MyBackupPro is not playing nicely with my Note 2. I can backup and all that, but restoration never occurs. In fact, most times it won't find the backup to even restore!
So, what is everybody's favorite/easiest way to backup before flashing a new ROM, and restoring after flashing a new ROM? Preferably a free option.
When I was working with the Infuse, I seem to remember lots of developers saying to NEVER restore data after flashing a new ROM. I don't understand why that is. I know people aren't starting their games and stuff over from scratch when they flash a new ROM, especially since many people change ROMs every couple of days.
Thanks in advance! :highfive:
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I believe when it comes to backing up/moving apps + data, time, convenience or money saving should simply stay out of the decision making process. BUY the best there is, spend time to learn how to properly use the tool and that will give you the quickest, most convenient and money saving solution. In other words, this is where you shouldn't be cutting any corners. I would recommend either Titanium Backup Pro or ROM Toolbox Pro.
I bought Helium Premium and it worked beautifully. Now I have no reason not to try every ROM available for this phone. Thanks guys!
My backup pro + root will do the job nice. If you're not seeing your backups try going into settings and check that your backups are going to EXTENT sd.
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lukas_s said:
Question is in the thread title.
In the past, when I had a Samsung Infuse 4G, MyBackupPro worked wonderfully for backing up apps and data before flashing a new ROM, and painlessly restoring apps and data after flashing a new ROM (by painlessly I mean all at once, as opposed to having to go through and click "restore" for each app and data). However, for whatever reason, MyBackupPro is not playing nicely with my Note 2. I can backup and all that, but restoration never occurs. In fact, most times it won't find the backup to even restore!
So, what is everybody's favorite/easiest way to backup before flashing a new ROM, and restoring after flashing a new ROM? Preferably a free option.
When I was working with the Infuse, I seem to remember lots of developers saying to NEVER restore data after flashing a new ROM. I don't understand why that is. I know people aren't starting their games and stuff over from scratch when they flash a new ROM, especially since many people change ROMs every couple of days.
Thanks in advance! :highfive:
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Dude I want the premium version of this app...Can you please provide me
I've been using titanium backup pro. It works pretty well, and it's pretty fast. Sometimes there are problems accessing my backup folder after a new flash, but restarting and fixing permissions will usually fix it.
yhzh said:
I've been using titanium backup pro. It works pretty well, and it's pretty fast. Sometimes there are problems accessing my backup folder after a new flash, but restarting and fixing permissions will usually fix it.
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did you set the backup location under settings when you redownloaded the app to point to the location of your backup folder?
+1 titanium backup..when restoring after a rom install..make sure to restore only apps never restore apos wirh chemicals system data...you'll have conflicts then.
Titanium backup is the best in my opinion. .you can backup bookmarks, message sms, call logs and even send them to dropbox and restore them just as easy...
I agree that Ti Backup is a good option. I wont say its the best period, but it is the best that I have used.
Ishan16 said:
Dude I want the premium version of this app...Can you please provide me
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Enjoy
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rerware.android.MyBackupPro&hl=en