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Apollo recommends HTC HD7 on hardware basis.

For all the HTC HD7 holders concerned about not getting Apollo update like myself and not ready to upgrade should read this article to calm them down;
http://www.everythingwm.com/what-to-know-about-windows-phone-8-and-first-gen-devices/2012/03/16/
Love this news and hope it's true.
Sent from my HTC HD7 Windows Phone using Board Express.

All the first gen devices use the same base hardware profile. The only thign the HD7 has is like 64MB more RAM which shouldn't be a big deal given even second gen devices are shipping with 512...
The only thing that would stop other 1st gen devices from getting the update is the OEM or carrier refusing to license or support the new version.
Also, the post also mentions the Samsung Focus.

Seems like what has been touted on a few places lately.
All devices to get the update - only the hardware inside your device will limit the functionality you recieve.

T-Mobile doesn't even have the 8107 update pushed to these phones, I wouldn't hold my breath on Apollo...they pushed it to the Radar, and they told me to buy that instead lol.

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Dr.8820 said:
T-Mobile doesn't even have the 8107 update pushed to these phones, I wouldn't hold my breath on Apollo...they pushed it to the Radar, and they told me to buy that instead lol.
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T-Mobile USA pushed 8107 to all WP7 devices already. Why do people keep spreading these false facts. I had the official 8107 on my HD7 before I decided to go with a Full Unlocked ROM. There are others who have gotten the update too. The updates seems bugged or something though as I know the Lumia 710 has gotten the update, but when I tried updating my roommates' new 710s, it showed them as up to date.

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According to various sites t-mobile just started pushing to hd7 today
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Yeah, just saw that too, funny how I got it over a month ago & I wasn't the only one. They are also saying that the Lumia 710 hasn't gotten the update where I know people who have got it. Maybe it was some kind of bug? ::shrugs::

drkfngthdragnlrd said:
T-Mobile USA pushed 8107 to all WP7 devices already. Why do people keep spreading these false facts. I had the official 8107 on my HD7 before I decided to go with a Full Unlocked ROM. There are others who have gotten the update too. The updates seems bugged or something though as I know the Lumia 710 has gotten the update, but when I tried updating my roommates' new 710s, it showed them as up to date.
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Actually, it just rolled out today, I'm updating as I speak, so I will retract my previous statement. As far as the Lumia 710, no update yet http://www.wpcentral.com/t-mobile-us-rolling-out-windows-phone-8107-htc-hd7-update.

I think the 1st rollout was tmobile in europe. Tmobile USA was today.

TMOUS seems to be the carrier that cares most about WP, the others sure don't.

I guess I'll un-cancel lol.
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QUOTE=inteller;23806667]The Focus will get it but here are 3 devices I have my doubts on:
LG Quantum
HTC Surround
Dell Venue Pro
But why are some first gen devices like the HD7 and the Focus chosen over the Quantum, Surround, Dell etc to get the Apollo update? All have same specs except HD7 with extra 64 MB. So what's so special about my HD7 and the focus? And if it's about OEMs, why would HTC choose HD7 over Surround? Really want to know those reasons. Any help?
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QUOTE=inteller;23806667]The Focus will get it but here are 3 devices I have my doubts on:
LG Quantum
HTC Surround
Dell Venue Pro
But why are some first gen devices like the HD7 and the Focus chosen over the Quantum, Surround, Dell etc to get the Apollo update? All have same specs except HD7 with extra 64 MB. So what's so special about my HD7 and the focus? And if it's about OEMs, why would HTC choose HD7 over Surround? Really want to know those reasons. Any help?
Sent from my HTC HD7 Windows Phone using Board Express.
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Actually, the Quantum only had 256 Mb ram, I believe. The Surround had like 448 Mb ram or something like that.
Edit: nvm, gsmarena says the quantum has 512 Mb ram now. -.-

whats about LG optimus 7?
hope it will get apollo,would be a good finish to first gen devices!

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Thanks for introducing me to everythingWM.com, looks like a solid techblog.

You welcome ;-)
Sent from my HTC HD7 Windows Phone using Board Express.

I sincerely doubt US carriers will allow Apollo updates to be pushed (even if MSFT releases them). I plan to use my first gen wp as a zune with wifi.

Rogers & Purple Hue Update

As some of you already know, Rogers did not receive the 12085 firmware update which addressed the purple hue issue that all North American Lumias suffered from since their launch.
I tried reaching Nokia via twitter and Rogers. Nokia never replied and Rogers said they are still waiting for the firmware to arrive from Nokia so that they test it.
I then sent am email to Nokia and was told later on that someone from the Service Recovery department will call me. They called me yesterday and pretty much did not know when the firmware will be released and told me to set the brightness to medium and wait!!! I said why do I have to do that while the AT&T customers got treated in much more timely manner. Why are Rogers customers left in the dark?! The representative had no answers and kept telling me the same things I mentioned above.
I finished with her and decided to email Nokia's CEO. YES! Stephen Elop himself. I sent him an email and told him about this and how unacceptable it is given that our US neighbours got the issue fixed a month ago. I also told him how frustrated I was with the Service Department not knowing anything nor being able to help.
Guess what?! He replied to me while ccing a couple of people in the reply email. He apologized for this and told me that someone from his team will assist me.
I received a call today in the morning from the manager/head of the service recovery department and I was offered a brand new Lumia 900 from the newest batch which does not suffer from the purple hue issue. They will ship it to me soon. Later on in the day, Mr. Elop emailed me again and told me that he checked the firmware update's status and that it is now in Rogers labs being tested and that it should be released in the coming weeks.
I thanked Mr. Elop for his assistance and told him that I will keep him informed of these bugs harming the brand and their flagship device.
So now all you Rogers customers have an update on this issue. Hopefully you will get the firmware update soon.

That's good news. And shows how the power of one can move mountains. Glad you focused your energy in the right direction.
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xsever said:
As some of you already know, Rogers did not receive the 12085 firmware update which addressed the purple hue issue that all North American Lumias suffered from since their launch.
I tried reaching Nokia via twitter and Rogers. Nokia never replied and Rogers said they are still waiting for the firmware to arrive from Nokia so that they test it.
I then sent am email to Nokia and was told later on that someone from the Service Recovery department will call me. They called me yesterday and pretty much did not know when the firmware will be released and told me to set the brightness to medium and wait!!! I said why do I have to do that while the AT&T customers got treated in much more timely manner. Why are Rogers customers left in the dark?! The representative had no answers and kept telling me the same things I mentioned above.
I finished with her and decided to email Nokia's CEO. YES! Stephen Elop himself. I sent him an email and told him about this and how unacceptable it is given that our US neighbours got the issue fixed a month ago. I also told him how frustrated I was with the Service Department not knowing anything nor being able to help.
Guess what?! He replied to me while ccing a couple of people in the reply email. He apologized for this and told me that someone from his team will assist me.
I received a call today in the morning from the manager/head of the service recovery department and I was offered a brand new Lumia 900 from the newest batch which does not suffer from the purple hue issue. They will ship it to me soon. Later on in the day, Mr. Elop emailed me again and told me that he checked the firmware update's status and that it is now in Rogers labs being tested and that it should be released in the coming weeks.
I thanked Mr. Elop for his assistance and told him that I will keep him informed of these bugs harming the brand and their flagship device.
So now all you Rogers customers have an update on this issue. Hopefully you will get the firmware update soon.
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Glad to hear buddy... I'm actually jealous you're getting a new one... Wish I could say the same, but oh well... Looking forward to the fix!

Zhariak said:
Glad to hear buddy... I'm actually jealous you're getting a new one... Wish I could say the same, but oh well... Looking forward to the fix!
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I received the new one a day after talking to the manager and guess what? The new one still has the purple hue problem!!! The new so-called "batch" still does not have calibrated screens. I even doubt there is something called "new batch".
I am going to keep the new one for sure, send the old one, and talk back to the manager and see what she's going to do about it.

xsever said:
I received the new one a day after talking to the manager and guess what? The new one still has the purple hue problem!!! The new so-called "batch" still does not have calibrated screens. I even doubt there is something called "new batch".
I am going to keep the new one for sure, send the old one, and talk back to the manager and see what she's going to do about it.
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Lmao dude I'm soooo sorry...
What a botched job... I didn't see that one coming!

Zhariak said:
Lmao dude I'm soooo sorry...
What a botched job... I didn't see that one coming!
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Elop said that the firmware is now in Rogers' testing labs and Rogers tweeted me back a while ago saying they are looking for an end-of-July release so maybe this will end up true.
I am still going to corner that manager and exert pressure just to see what she'll do given that she assured me like 5 times that the phone she is sending me does not have that problem anymore and I kept telling her are you sure? And she's respond saying yes.
I really find myself making them a favour by wasting my time giving them feedback so that they can better their sales/customer satisfaction!

Called the manager today and she was very apologetic since apparently the service center in New Market (Flextronics) sent me a phone from the old batch.
They are sending me a new batch phone now from Ajax which is where Nokia Personnel are.
Will keep everyone posted.

xsever said:
Called the manager today and she was very apologetic since apparently the service center in New Market (Flextronics) sent me a phone from the old batch.
They are sending me a new batch phone now from Ajax which is where Nokia Personnel are.
Will keep everyone posted.
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I'm wondering if I should call up and demand a new phone...

If you have plenty of time to waste on the phone, go ahead since I've spent lots of time on the phone with them.

xsever said:
If you have plenty of time to waste on the phone, go ahead since I've spent lots of time on the phone with them.
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See, with me... Every time I've talked to them, they tell me to send it in, and tell me it'll take 1-3 weeks to get my phone back...
I'm self-employed, have a company to run, and couldn't go 1 hour without my phone (let alone 1-3 weeks)... It's simply not an option... Maybe I need to write Mr. President at Nokia and see what'll happen.

Received the new batch Lumia 900 today.
To my surprise, the firmware version is unique and nowhere to be found elswhere online. The same applies for the OS.
OS Version: 7.10.8779.8
Firmware: 2175.2301.8779.12222
The purple hue is fixed!!!! The marketplace icon is different than the 2 other Lumias I have from Nokia and I was able to update Nokia Drive to 3.0
So far, Nokia is doing very well in terms of service and customer satisfaction!

Hmm, that is a Tango ROM build.
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Morpheus Phreak said:
Hmm, that is a Tango ROM build.
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I had the 8773. 98 on the previous lumia but not 8779.

8779's existed for some time now. First appearance on the Lumia though. Does it have flip to silence and all that?

exiva said:
8779's existed for some time now. First appearance on the Lumia though. Does it have flip to silence and all that?
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Just tested the feature and yes it works.

xsever said:
Just tested the feature and yes it works.
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I am sooooo jealous!
Just checked zune, and still no update for the rest of us!

Interesting,
Mine reads:
OS: 7.10.8773.98
Firmware: 2175.2101.8779.12201
Has anyone else noticed that the title of this entire thread sounds like the name of an obscure 1960's pop group?

apollo15rover said:
Interesting,
Mine reads:
OS: 7.10.8773.98
Firmware: 2175.2101.8779.12201
Has anyone else noticed that the title of this entire thread sounds like the name of an obscure 1960's pop group?
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Is yours Rogers or international?

xsever said:
Is yours Rogers or international?
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International - It's an unlocked "SmarTone" phone that I understand is out of Hong Kong.

I have an International release of the Lumia 900 (an unlocked Rogers device purchased outright from Hong Kong) and I'm on 8773.
I really do hope that Rogers release the firmware very soon because the keyboard disappearance has been annoying the hell out of me lately. The kbrd either disappears or TellMe pops up without any reason (and I find myself swearing at it)!
xsever, did you ever notice on your earlier 900 pictures you took looked fine on the screen but when the picture was taken it was noticably darker? How about your new version.. how's the accuracy of the camera? (Well done getting a new device by the way).

Really????? Lumia 800 Updates roll today? Link inside

Wow..is HTC Sleeping? The non Flag Ship Lumia 800 is the First Official roll out of WP 7.8
Lumia 800 Rolls out

Seems to be in the Netherlands...
http://www.wpcentral.com/microsoft-starts-rolling-out-windows-phone-78-update
http://www.wp7.nl/26292/windows-phone-7-8-update-beschikbaar-voor-nokia-lumia-800/

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Seems to be in the Netherlands...
http://www.wpcentral.com/microsoft-starts-rolling-out-windows-phone-78-update
http://www.wp7.nl/26292/windows-phone-7-8-update-beschikbaar-voor-nokia-lumia-800/
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seems to be FUD if other reports reports are to be believed

Considering the 3 links reference each other as proof, I don't think they have any credibility.
yes, Nokia might be preparing to roll out 7.8, but it certainly won't come today, as today is almost over and no update yet.

Nokia, I lost my patience with you!

For months we are waiting for the update of the windows system to version 7.8 and after blunder releasing devices that will not be upgraded to Windows 8 and various bugs that undertaken to credibility of their devices, just when supposedly the Update is released, it simply does not appears on the Zune for the vast majority of users.
Even when Nokia will continue committing their blunders? For my part I'm already sick of this incapacity bankrupt company!
I consider it a total lack of capacity due to long delay of this release and a clear demonstration of total incapacity. Furthermore, as a consumer who owns a Lumia 900 consider myself totally disrespected.

This has nothing to do with Nokia. Carriers insist on testing updates before they ship them, mostly to make sure it plays nice with their network and maybe to do a little training for support staff. Nokia and MS can't change that fact. Apple seems to have a little more clout in this area and is able to either bypass carrier testing, or they pay extra to fasttrack it through. Microsoft and Nokia both said the rollout will take about 4 weeks, this is approximately what was seen with the Mango update.

I understand your feeling, but there arena few things...
7.8 wasn't just released for lumia's, reports are showing various other phone makes and models also are receiving updates. So is seems more like Microsoft flipped the switch.
When updates are pushed, not everyone gets it the same second. They tend to be in stages.
And cable trick does work, I got impatient and well had my 900 updated during lunch yesterday.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

I cant get that cable/wifi trick to work at all. what am i doing wrong? i push update wait 3.-4 secs then disable wireless. reconnect and it just stalls on that screen. Nothing at all
godashram said:
I understand your feeling, but there arena few things...
7.8 wasn't just released for lumia's, reports are showing various other phone makes and models also are receiving updates. So is seems more like Microsoft flipped the switch.
When updates are pushed, not everyone gets it the same second. They tend to be in stages.
And cable trick does work, I got impatient and well had my 900 updated during lunch yesterday.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
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I counted to 4 very slowly to get the Nokia update... Then counted to 3 after to get 7.8
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Keep trying
godashram said:
I counted to 4 very slowly to get the Nokia update... Then counted to 3 after to get 7.8
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As another post pointed out, the amount of time you wait is relative to your connection speed. If you connection is good, the time you wait is slower. Trial and error worked for me. Ultimately the wifi disable allowed me to update on release day when Zune said I was up to date. Good luck!

I don't understand why so many people are in such an uproar to get such a ~minor~ upgrade. Most of the changes are purely cosmetic. Now, if the upgrade were to permit a user to download an audio or video file from the internet, or email a PDF (how radical!), or manage a [shudder] zip file attachment, I could understand the impatience.
Jeez.

Eric is right...
The update to 7.8 is'nt such a big thing at all. You get the wp8 home screen and the Bing option for the lockscreen and that's about it.. maybe a few more background colors to choose from?
Anyway, the only way we (lumia 900 users) can get this Phone some really nice usefull features is by building custom rom's but there aren't a lot of developers on unlocking the bootloader so we are stuck with the features Nokia gives us.
I still hope the unlocked Quellcom bootloader will surface somewhere so we can release the powers of this phone but i'm afraid i need to wait till my contract ends and get me another phone (and it wont be a Nokia ever again).

I forced my 900 to 7.8 and there were 2 OS updated and last and third was a firmware update from nokia... the small tiles look and feel great..

Good news! Official Windows phone 7.8 update arrived to all windows phone 7.5 owners.

Good news! Official Windows phone 7.8 update arrived to all windows phone 7.5 owners. Dont need to wait for carrier notification, update directly from microsoft.
Check the below link to find How to update Windows phone 7.5 to 7.8?
You need to install two minor 7.5 update and finally 7.8 update. The articles detailed with screenshot.
http://www.negablog.com/2013/02/windows-phone-78-arrived-from-microsoft.html

UPD via Zune this is good news ? Are you kidding, read this: http://www.wp7roottools.com/index.p...-live-tiles-drain-wp7-8-phones-battery-and-3g

Budniu said:
UPD via Zune this is good news ? Are you kidding, read this: http://www.wp7roottools.com/index.p...-live-tiles-drain-wp7-8-phones-battery-and-3g
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Got official update from 7.5 to 7.8 buddy. Its not still confirmed battery draining problem. Install and check out.

Got it yesterday via Zune for my HTC Radar....less then impressed.
Updated and Confirmed
Not as many colours as I would like, and basically only the new start screen.

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UPD via Zune this is good news ? Are you kidding, read this: http://www.wp7roottools.com/index.p...-live-tiles-drain-wp7-8-phones-battery-and-3g
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Thats not directly a problem with 7.8 it is a problem how the app was coded. the developer of this particular app has done something wrong... his site has no valid url for a live tile so the OS searches again and again, because it can happen that the live tile is not found in the first attempt but this is the fault of the developer which has not fixed this issue where to find the new live tile picture...

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Thats not directly a problem with 7.8 it is a problem how the app was coded. the developer of this particular app has done something wrong... his site has no valid url for a live tile so the OS searches again and again, because it can happen that the live tile is not found in the first attempt but this is the fault of the developer which has not fixed this issue where to find the new live tile picture...
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Yup. Explained well.

Nothing found for my Arrive from Sprint or Titan II from ATT, both US phones.

ctiger said:
Nothing found for my Arrive from Sprint or Titan II from ATT, both US phones.
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got for titan?

ctiger said:
Nothing found for my Arrive from Sprint or Titan II from ATT, both US phones.
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That is because the official 7.8 update did not arrive to all WP owners...
Anyone on a US carrier -except for AT&T L900 users have not received the update ............................ yet.
T-Mobile cancelled the update for the 710...and probably for the Radar and HD7...
It is highly probable that AT&T or any other US carrier...will do the same

Got 7.8 last night!!
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Good news! Official Windows phone 7.8 update arrived to all windows phone 7.5 owners. Dont need to wait for carrier notification, update directly from microsoft.
Check the below link to find How to update Windows phone 7.5 to 7.8?
You need to install two minor 7.5 update and finally 7.8 update. The articles detailed with screenshot.
http://www.negablog.com/2013/02/windows-phone-78-arrived-from-microsoft.html
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I had to do the Zune update cheat trick 4 times last night but finally ended up with 7.8 on my HTC Win 7 Pro.. Nice to have the aditional colors and resize of tiles. Wish it had bypassed the carrier and turned on ICS but oh well.

Custom ROMS
Does anyone know if this update works with a phone that currently has custom 7.8 on? I am running the deepshining 7.8ROM and is there much point in getting the official update? Does it fix the delay in opening apps?
Thanks

My brother has nokia 710, when i try to upg via zune it says its already up to date. It has 7.5v
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How does one do the zune update cheat trick??

Nothing here.... HTC Trophy unbranded. I Never buy WP And HTC Again!

at&t Windows Phone 7.8 update being deployed
IL200 said:
Nothing here.... HTC Trophy unbranded. I Never buy WP And HTC Again!
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Still no update? I have an at&t Lumia 900 and got a message today that an update is available. I think there was some issue with the update earlier this year and they halted the roll out so they could fix something. Once the fix was made I guess they started rolling out the update slowly. I actually called at&t a couple of weeks ago and the guy I spoke with was clueless about Windows Phone 7.8. He kept swearing my phone was up to day. Then he put me on hold and spoke to several other people who were about as clueless. I really don't understand why people work in tech support if they have no interest in the device they are supporting.

Got It, But No Bluetooth Share
I got the update when plugging into Zune. No problems..However, still no availabilty of Nokia Bluetooth Share in the Marketplace. Marketplace still says not available for my device. I hate to say this, being a long time Windows Phone user, but this Bluetooth Share fiasco is a joke. Can no one get their act together any longer? I realize this is a Microsoft/Nokia issue but it is laughable now. Bluetooth Share continues to be hyped on the Nokia site as a benefit of 7.8. Well then, where is it?????????????????????????

I updated via Zune my ZTE Tania easy, in 15-20 minutes. New WP 7.8 is great, i like it.:highfive: