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Im so impressed with the SGII compared to other devises it just continues to amaze http://pocketnow.com/smartphone-news/comparison-iphone-4s-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-video
Wow, I have to admit, I'm impressed
I have just gone from the HTC Sensation to Samsung GS2 and overall the samsung is better especially now its overclocked to 1504 but the sensation had an awesome screen for viewing and i loved the curved face.....and the very missed led.
There is more to it than who can open the applications faster, etc.
I owe a epic 4g touch, so I am partial towards this device. That being said, the iphone 4s was neck and neck with it, and possible as fast if you account for the longer animations.
The iphone 4s processor is clocked way lower than the gs2....it is trade off for battery life. While samsung was worried about being the faster android first and foremost...it appears that apple knew their device was more than fast enough...so they upped the battery life.
Sadly, there is no comparison between the graphic chips in these two phones. The iphone 4s blows away the mal 400...and is only bested by the high clocked version in the ipad 2.
The screen on the gs2 is big and beautiful...while the clarity is better on the iphone 4s thanks to the pixel density (this is true...not in the same way that the evo3d owners were claiming their screen was better...it is not...I just sold my evo3d....apple has a great screen here). So it comes down between big and beautiful...vs smaller and clear while still pretty.
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There is more to it than who can open the applications faster, etc.
I owe a epic 4g touch, so I am partial towards this device. That being said, the iphone 4s was neck and neck with it, and possible as fast if you account for the longer animations.
The iphone 4s processor is clocked way lower than the gs2....it is trade off for battery life. While samsung was worried about being the faster android first and foremost...it appears that apple knew their device was more than fast enough...so they upped the battery life.
Sadly, there is no comparison between the graphic chips in these two phones. The iphone 4s blows away the mal 400...and is only bested by the high clocked version in the ipad 2.
The screen on the gs2 is big and beautiful...while the clarity is better on the iphone 4s thanks to the pixel density (this is true...not in the same way that the evo3d owners were claiming their screen was better...it is not...I just sold my evo3d....apple has a great screen here). So it comes down between big and beautiful...vs smaller and clear while still pretty.
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Did you miss all the posts about poor battery life and yellow/green screen tint? Anandtech really lol
Have you missed all the post about yellowed tint and poor battery life is the gs2 forums? What about battery life and Los signal in our very own epic touch forums?
No phone is perfect. I don't see how that contradicts or supports what I said.
did anyone else see the other 10000 threads about the same thing???
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did anyone else see the other 10000 threads about the same thing???
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Yep...doesn't stop me or anyone from replying to 1001 threads. Not offense, but have you seen the 1001 post saying the same thing you have said in each of these threads? Something to think about...
Besides what was already said, you are all falling Epicly, as this is not the SGII section. Close but no cigar, this is the E4GT section. LOL
Any chance a moderator could fix them up?
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Besides what was already said, you are all falling Epicly, as this is not the SGII section. Close but no cigar, this is the E4GT section. LOL
Any chance a moderator could fix them up?
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I know which section it is....i owe the phone.
Our phone has had it share of problems, as does most phones. Is it that hard to see the point I am making.
I love the epic 4g touch...amazing phone. Just to make that clear. But that doesn't mean one can't be unbiased and not act like a fanboy.
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I know which section it is....i owe the phone.
Our phone has had it share of problems, as does most phones. Is it that hard to see the point I am making.
I love the epic 4g touch...amazing phone. Just to make that clear. But that doesn't mean one can't be unbiased and not act like a fanboy.
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Yep, clear as mud. Did you look around at all before starting this thread? As was already pointed out, there have already been plenty of these type of posts in this section.
That article has nothing to do with this phone no matter how similar you think it is. And there is a SGII section that it would be fine for posting in.
If you're looking to create a new discussion on the iphone topic, you're not, it's been beat to death and everyone is tired of them. You like the phone? Great, go get one. You can join MartyLK and his quest to win XDA over and all become crapple fanboys. Check out his argument in the general section, or every other thread that is crapple vs. anything.
And I'm sorry that you "owe" the phone, that's kinda weird. LOL
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just tired of seeing s2/et4g vs. ip4s threads. There are a million of them open right now, and they never end good
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I owe a epic 4g touch, so I am partial towards this device.
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I know which section it is....i owe the phone.
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Im confused, what do you owe this phone? Did it save your life?
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Im confused, what do you owe this phone? Did it save your life?
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Hahaha I was about to post the same thing
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Real mature lot here.
I am not the op I was just responding to his post.
If you read it, it should be evident that I was not promoting the iPhone or the galaxy s2 . I really not sure I understand the argument against my post. Maybe you didn't read it? Never the less....enough of the bs....I feel like this forum is full of children.
I own the phone....and don't give a damn about what phone Is better because I thoroughly enjoy the epic touch. But again....everyone's response here is odd...and pitiful to be honest.
Anyway, take care.
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I know which section it is....i owe the phone.
Our phone has had it share of problems, as does most phones. Is it that hard to see the point I am making.
I love the epic 4g touch...amazing phone. Just to make that clear. But that doesn't mean one can't be unbiased and not act like a fanboy.
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Sorry about that, I was in a hurry and at work. I could have sworn I saw your name as the OP.
Anyway, show me a side by side of the E4GT and the iJunk and that's fine. But what point is there putting the SGII in this section?
And as far as people who love the iJunk so much, the majority are paid by crapple to be fanboys. They either don't want to lose the sponsorship, are getting perks, have some kind of vested interest or otherwise in crapple. I just haven't seen an unbiased review on any of crapples products. Here's a fact about biased supposedly unbiased reporting: http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...se_the_smartphone_IQ_once_again?taxonomyId=15
Read on down to paragraph 4 of that article. "A new antenna design addresses notorious dropped-call problems that plagued iPhone 4." I bet when he was reviewing the iJunk 4 he never mentioned that it was plagued with anything, ESPECIALLY dropped calls. They're all a bunch of phony, fake, biased and paid for reviews that lead smart, non tech savvy, people into buying crap.
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Real mature lot here.
I am not the op I was just responding to his post.
If you read it, it should be evident that I was not promoting the iPhone or the galaxy s2 . I really not sure I understand the argument against my post. Maybe you didn't read it? Never the less....enough of the bs....I feel like this forum is full of children.
I own the phone....and don't give a damn about what phone Is better because I thoroughly enjoy the epic touch. But again....everyone's response here is odd...and pitiful to be honest.
Anyway, take care.
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dude you gotta realize how annoying it is to see the same threads over and over and over. A quick search of iphone4s vs et4g would have yielded you a handful of threads already open about the same topic. Anyone who has any type of forum etiquitte knows to search before posting, on top of that, the OP picked the sorest topic to post about. iPhone vs anything does nothing but turn into a flame war ending with name calling. Every forum...every thread.
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Sorry about that, I was in a hurry and at work. I could have sworn I saw your name as the OP.
Anyway, show me a side by side of the E4GT and the iJunk and that's fine. But what point is there putting the SGII in this section?
And as far as people who love the iJunk so much, the majority are paid by crapple to be fanboys. They either don't want to lose the sponsorship, are getting perks, have some kind of vested interest or otherwise in crapple. I just haven't seen an unbiased review on any of crapples products. Here's a fact about biased supposedly unbiased reporting: http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...se_the_smartphone_IQ_once_again?taxonomyId=15
Read on down to paragraph 4 of that article. "A new antenna design addresses notorious dropped-call problems that plagued iPhone 4." I bet when he was reviewing the iJunk 4 he never mentioned that it was plagued with anything, ESPECIALLY dropped calls. They're all a bunch of phony, fake, biased and paid for reviews that lead smart, non tech savvy, people into buying crap.
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I agree with all you said there.
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dude you gotta realize how annoying it is to see the same threads over and over and over. A quick search of iphone4s vs et4g would have yielded you a handful of threads already open about the same topic. Anyone who has any type of forum etiquitte knows to search before posting, on top of that, the OP picked the sorest topic to post about. iPhone vs anything does nothing but turn into a flame war ending with name calling. Every forum...every thread.
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Agreed, I was just replying to the thread. I did not create it.
So I feel like I have a decent unbiased comparison here so flaming aside I will put my 2 cents in. I have owed every android phone sprint has offered, along with a few att and tmobile devices because of my job. I posted in the other thread about who was jumping to the 4s and said I was not but my wife was because of a program she needed that worked flawlessly on ios but not so much on android....
After day 3 of her having the iphone she said she would rather have my e4g over her 64gb iphone that we bought OUTRIGHT! So of course I asked her why and being not so techy she said "I like it better". So we switched phones for a day and this is what I came up with....
Clarity of the iphone screen is awesome from little tiny fonts to zooming in and not seeing pixelation. Camera was comparable to my eye after zooming in, no printing though. That being said I have owed every iphone except the original and they all are the same, more or less, software wise. After using the 4s I returned it for a second e4g. I still think the iphone has the most forgiving and accurate keyboard but the screen size on the e4g makes up for that easily. App quality is nice on the iphone but android has done well in that category now as well. Siri is boarderline creepy...my wife asked random personal questions and it answered "I try to stay satisfied but this is about you not me" lol...but does its job well however I will never get used to any voice recognition, ios or android.
So all in all, I won't ever really down technical innovation, but after using both I am much more content with the e4g....and the $920 after taxes that came with the return. Like I said, just my 2 cents though.
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Honestly I think posts like these are a bit pointless. You're on an Epic 4G Touch forum, what do you think the majority of the responses are going to be?
Not sure if any of you guys have heard of The Verge yet, but its the new tech blog type of venture Joshua Topolksy (the Engadget guy). I like it but we will see if they become Apple fanboys over there too. I started a thread regarding LoS just to get the issue out there. Here is the link! Blow this sheeeeit up!
http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/1/2530362/sgsii-epic-4g-touch-loss-of-service
Ya know, it bugs me that every little issue with the new iPhone is plastered all over every tech blog on earth and yet our phone gets nothing mentioned about the major issues it has for some people. Hope something comes of this.
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Ya know, it bugs me that every little issue with the new iPhone is plastered all over every tech blog on earth and yet our phone gets nothing mentioned about the major issues it has for some people. Hope something comes of this.
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Not sure if any of you guys have heard of The Verge yet, but its the new tech blog type of venture Joshua Topolksy (the Engadget guy). I like it but we will see if they become Apple fanboys over there too.
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Lol the The Verge/This is My Next was started by the exodus of the Apple fanboys from Engadget.
Engadget's coverage of Android got significantly more even-handed after they left.
If you ask me, the only people who think Topolosky and crew are Apple fanboys are Android fanboys. Joshua's daily phone is the Nexus S which he's been very happy with, plus he had some fantastic coverage of ICS. (and was very impressed with ICS)
Ya know, it bugs me that every little issue with the new iPhone is plastered all over every tech blog on earth and yet our phone gets nothing mentioned about the major issues it has for some people. Hope something comes of this.
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First the Android fanboys get mad because Engadget posted an article about how the Evo 4G had a capped frame-rate. (remember that EVO owners?? I sure do) They said, "how come Engadget only posts negative stuff about Android and not about the iPhone??" Never minding the fact that "Antenna Gate" got loads of coverage. Now you're complaining about them not covering the LOS issue?
Oh well, nothing to do but laugh I guess.
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If you ask me, the only people who think Topolosky and crew are Apple fanboys are Android fanboys. Joshua's daily phone is the Nexus S which he's been very happy with, plus he had some fantastic coverage of ICS. (and was very impressed with ICS)
First the Android fanboys get mad because Engadget posted an article about how the Evo 4G had a capped frame-rate. (remember that EVO owners?? I sure do) They said, "how come Engadget only posts negative stuff about Android and not about the iPhone??" Never minding the fact that "Antenna Gate" got loads of coverage. Now you're complaining about them not covering the LOS issue?
Oh well, nothing to do but laugh I guess.
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Yes I'm complaining. The iPhones issues will be addressed much faster because the average person can read about them anywhere and that puts pressure on Apple to fix a device that "just works". Our issues are listed here and on Sprint forums so the rest of the world doesn't know that Samsung and Sprint drag their feet with important updates. There's no pressure on these companies except from people they've already taken money from. Apple has to uphold an image and it will. Samsung and Sprint just have to keep blaming each other and putting off what they surely can fix.
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If you ask me, the only people who think Topolosky and crew are Apple fanboys are Android fanboys. Joshua's daily phone is the Nexus S which he's been very happy with, plus he had some fantastic coverage of ICS. (and was very impressed with ICS)
First the Android fanboys get mad because Engadget posted an article about how the Evo 4G had a capped frame-rate. (remember that EVO owners?? I sure do) They said, "how come Engadget only posts negative stuff about Android and not about the iPhone??" Never minding the fact that "Antenna Gate" got loads of coverage. Now you're complaining about them not covering the LOS issue?
Oh well, nothing to do but laugh I guess.
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I wasnt complaining! I just posted to help it get more attention. And i like the Verge its a pretty sick site. I also follow engadget religiously. Even the forum threads look like actual blog posts haha
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No worries guys, didn't mean my post to come across so snippy. And I agree that it would be great to get some coverage of this issue (though I personally haven't had it yet.. knock on wood). I also completely agree with poppygt that Samsung/Sprint will just blame each other until someone puts some heat on them.
I love Android, but getting support for anything more than the most basic of functions is the one thing that is really frustrating. When you find a bug, there's almost nothing you can do except post about it on the internet. The problem is that there are 3 throats to choke: the carrier, the manufacturer, and Google. None of them is really setup to do much. Both the carrier and the manufacturer just want to get you off the phone as quickly as possible. Their only way to really help you is to replace your phone, which is usually pointless when dealing with a bug. I guess Google kinda/sorta has a support site where you can file bugs, but it's not exactly easy to find and it's hard to know if anyone ever looks at them, let alone fix them.
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No worries guys, didn't mean my post to come across so snippy. And I agree that it would be great to get some coverage of this issue (though I personally haven't had it yet.. knock on wood). I also completely agree with poppygt that Samsung/Sprint will just blame each other until someone puts some heat on them.
I love Android, but getting support for anything more than the most basic of functions is the one thing that is really frustrating. When you find a bug, there's almost nothing you can do except post about it on the internet. The problem is that there are 3 throats to choke: the carrier, the manufacturer, and Google. None of them is really setup to do much. Both the carrier and the manufacturer just want to get you off the phone as quickly as possible. Their only way to really help you is to replace your phone, which is usually pointless when dealing with a bug. I guess Google kinda/sorta has a support site where you can file bugs, but it's not exactly easy to find and it's hard to know if anyone ever looks at them, let alone fix them.
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+1
If everything was vertical within Google/Android like Apple is, it would be a lot less of a headache for us. Funny thing is, the sales for Android still don't really suffer even with bugs on the manufacturing side of things. It has the "bad ass" factor, haha. Majority of users (not us XDA folks) don't even realize the bugs, they will think its their phone and like you said just get a new one so that in itself prevents issues from getting more attention because everyday consumers don't really think of it as a bug but the phone itself.
Anyways, I love android. The end. haha.
Hey guys I want to know your opinion. I'm due for an upgrade on my line. I already have a galaxy S3 and love it. I was holding out for whatever Samsung puts out next like the note. With the piss ants win this could possibly lead to there phones being banned in the U. S. Watching the news they were saying the judge in around 3 weeks from now can possibly stop all sales on galaxy devices in the U.S. Should I run out and use my upgrade or is this highly unlikely and the cry baby's won't get there way again. Maybe I'm being paranoid but the way they made it sound on the news made it seem like it's possible. It's a shame apple wins and we all loose, however this is just going to make them out innovate apple that much faster. As they said on XDA TV they may have awaken the sleeping giant. Long live Google and Samsung. I'm such a fan boy lol.. But at least I'm not a I phone user who lies to themselves. Take care community
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Look man I'm a bitter android enthusiasts who sick of seeing apple trying to sue Samsung in every country for the past couple years. This screws the U.S consumer. Maybe I've got issues but I won't be the only bitter person if they stop sales on galaxy devices in the U.S. And yes this possible can happen the judge will rule on it in 3 weeks
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I think the ban would be for older phone's so don't worry.
It would take an entirely new case stretched over months before a ban of current devices would take effect. No need to worry yet but the fact that this sets a precedent it pretty unsettling.
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I don't know I've read they have to stop selling the Galaxy S2 and galaxy nexus in the U.S
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I don't know I've read they have to stop selling the Galaxy S2 and galaxy nexus in the U.S
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Nope you read wrong info ; there is no ban on any phone yet.
Galaxy s3 is not under apples list of target.
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i'm glad i'm not the only one who finds these posts ridiculous, i'm surprised it's tolerated here.
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i'm glad i'm not the only one who finds these posts ridiculous, i'm surprised it's tolerated here.
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as ridiculous as these posts may be, not everyone is crystal clear about information add there are many media outlets and some giving wrong information. it want a troll post i don't think and was just someone looking for answers. you didn't have to reply or even read the post. i believe xda is for everyone, not just people who have vast knowledge of tech and being in the know of everything that's going on. if someone has a legitimate question, we should all share knowledge. at least this is my opinion.
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Thanks, this is why I asked in the general. Some ass holes spend there time searching the general and Q&A to try and flame people. They need a hug but this seems to be there only outlet. If you find it ridiculous then keep it moving. You don't have to read it.
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I didn't see the S3 on the list of targets either. I am really hoping the judge goes easier on them than the jury did. I think that jury was just made up of a bunch of really, really dumb people.
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I'm sure they will appeal the decision. Or at least I hope. Apple certainly does not need more money or power.
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I didn't see the S3 on the list of targets either. I am really hoping the judge goes easier on them than the jury did. I think that jury was just made up of a bunch of really, really dumb people.
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Yes the average person trying to do the jobs of actually engineers. They have no idea what they were talking about. This is just a proxy war against Google. They didn't find the tab infringed but the phone did? Also they didn't find apple guilty for anything when they clearly were. O well like I said before it's just going to make Samsung out innovate them that much quicker. Let the truth be told, we need them to compete against each other so we have more innovation. This Leeds to super computers in your pocket for under 200$.
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I didn't see the S3 on the list of targets either. I am really hoping the judge goes easier on them than the jury did. I think that jury was just made up of a bunch of really, really dumb people.
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I think whoever was working at the patent office the day a patent for a rectangular phone with round edges, or a green icon, was granted is the real idiot.
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I'm sure they will appeal the decision. Or at least I hope. Apple certainly does not need more money or power.
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Appeals are in the works and they are planning for multiple scenarios. This won't go down easy. There was an article somewhere saying that this was the best exposure for Samsung in terms of advertising because people are able to see that if the Samsung and iPhone products are the same and they can get the Samsung for cheaper, they will opt for cheaper.
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What I don't understand is how the Jury was so proud that they did not read the instructions from the judge and went ahead to fill out 700 questions is less than 2.5 days,
I thought the entire point of a jury was to deliberate and come to a conclusion based on the evidence presented. The jury also stated they wanted to set a precedent and make an example of out Samsung, I wonder ho many of the use Ipads and Iphones...a Jury's job isn't to make an example but be fair and unbiased.
Sounds like the jury was pretty damn biased to me, there are a lot of legal experts saying that this will be overturned maybe even in this trial based on the jury's behavior. If not this trial, then most definitely the appeals court should overturn their verdict.
Essentially everything Lucky Koh does, the appeals court overturns.
I think Samsung should sue the US Patent Office, clearly they didn't check anything before granting useless patent after patent.
Probably some idiot working there who just check to see if all the boxes were checked and the paperwork was their, then they granted based on that.
How else can anyone say a rectangle with curved corners is patent-able
Alright enough with the rant.
Long Live Samsung and Android.
I love android and all products associated but I hate to say it, it's pretty obvious Samsung used many elements from ios to skin android with touchwiz. If you can't see the obvious you're delusional at best.
I wish Samsung the best but they made their bed, now they need to sleep in it.
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What I don't understand is how the Jury was so proud that they did not read the instructions from the judge and went ahead to fill out 700 questions is less than 2.5 days,
I thought the entire point of a jury was to deliberate and come to a conclusion based on the evidence presented. The jury also stated they wanted to set a precedent and make an example of out Samsung, I wonder ho many of the use Ipads and Iphones...a Jury's job isn't to make an example but be fair and unbiased.
Sounds like the jury was pretty damn biased to me, there are a lot of legal experts saying that this will be overturned maybe even in this trial based on the jury's behavior. If not this trial, then most definitely the appeals court should overturn their verdict.
Essentially everything Lucky Koh does, the appeals court overturns.
I think Samsung should sue the US Patent Office, clearly they didn't check anything before granting useless patent after patent.
Probably some idiot working there who just check to see if all the boxes were checked and the paperwork was their, then they granted based on that.
How else can anyone say a rectangle with curved corners is patent-able
Alright enough with the rant.
Long Live Samsung and Android.
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Shut up.. we all know Sammy copied apple first for being the only Android maker to have a physical home button in the same spot as the iPhone & the colorful launcher of the s1 & s2.. they are iPhone replicas.. point blank. I have a galaxy tab 10.1 & people swear it is an iPad when they first see it.
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Playing devil's advocate for a moment:
One could argue that the way Apple made their iPhone is really the best way a phone could be made. Therefore, Samsung had no choice but to make it look and sound the best, it just happened to come out looking like the iPhone... but with a totally different operating system, and much more improved IMHO.
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Playing devil's advocate for a moment:
One could argue that the way Apple made their iPhone is really the best way a phone could be made. Therefore, Samsung had no choice but to make it look and sound the best, it just happened to come out looking like the iPhone... but with a totally different operating system, and much more improved IMHO.
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Tell that to an iOS user that any Android device is better... after using a iPhone for two days im Impressed with the build quality.. which is one thing Samsung lacks. They even used a fake metal look alike material & plastic... where paying $650 for that build, really?
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I've been an Apple user since my parent's bought the first Mac when it debuted; sure I was like 5 but I grew up on Macs.
I've never owned an iPhone but have seriously considered it, researched it and chose Android for a number of reasons. I upgraded to the E4GT last year, most of my friends and family worship at the church of the iPhone and upon seeing the E4GT every single iPhonatic was blown away by how much better it is than their device.
Which brings me to today's announcement: I couldn't be less impressed-- the days of Apple innovation seem like a distant memory. The most impressive thing that Apple showcased today is that it has the world's greatest public relations team; I couldn't be more impressed by their PR machine.
Also, in reading many mainstream news articles about the new iPhone I've seen a plethora of quotes from stock analysts about the device's hardware and design but only a few quotes from tech experts; it's very telling that the only people raving about it are those with a vested interest in seeing the stock price go up.
Look forward to your thoughts and countless "cool story bro" replies ...
Umm in before jay gets here? Lol
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You hit the nail on the head with the lack of innovations. At this point I don't care if they're stolen, just give us something to rave about! Seemed like this iPhone was just another "Let's get it up to par with the current Android devices and work on the real innovation for next year" release. I don't inherently hate Apple. They're responsible for a large chunk of why computing is so integrated into our daily lives. I just miss the days when they were changing them.
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Umm in before jay gets here? Lol
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Why would this thread be problematic?
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Look forward to your thoughts and countless "cool story bro" replies ...
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Why did you even bother posting this? Why not just go to the XDA Iphone site?..
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Umm in before jay gets here? Lol
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Eh, we'd knew it was gonna happen. Even drew a One X Att user in on it.. :silly:
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You jest right? So you want to see a bunch of silly pictures and all?
Jay or Pappa, please move this to XDA General or lock? Thank you! (can ya even throw it waaaaay over to BigPengs fav XDA Iphone forum?? )
I lawled at the announcement of the iphone5 and this picture describes it all
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Jay or Pappa, please move this to XDA General or lock? Thank you! (can ya even throw it waaaaay over to BigPengs fav XDA Iphone forum?? )
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I thought bigpeng would create this thread
TeAm VeNuM: Choose your pOiSoN
Cool stor....... nvm.
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MoHoGalore said:
Why did you even bother posting this? Why not just go to the XDA Iphone site?..
Eh, we'd knew it was gonna happen. Even drew a One X Att user in on it.. :silly:
You jest right? So you want to see a bunch of silly pictures and all?
Jay or Pappa, please move this to XDA General or lock? Thank you! (can ya even throw it waaaaay over to BigPengs fav XDA Iphone forum?? )
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D1rk said:
I thought bigpeng would create this thread
TeAm VeNuM: Choose your pOiSoN
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iVazn....
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k4p741nkrunch said:
You hit the nail on the head with the lack of innovations. At this point I don't care if they're stolen, just give us something to rave about! Seemed like this iPhone was just another "Let's get it up to par with the current Android devices and work on the real innovation for next year" release. I don't inherently hate Apple. They're responsible for a large chunk of why computing is so integrated into our daily lives. I just miss the days when they were changing them.
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Being a daily Apple user I agree with the above, Apple lost a lot when Steve Jobs died. However I wouldn't say that it is "just bringing it up to the current Android devices." I mean have you seen the hardware on that sucker? It's freaking gorgeous! You get Siri(Which I personally find fun and amusing), Airplay, Airprint, and iCloud which is a pretty nice service for those with Macs. I don't think the iPhone is for everyone, but I never have hesitated to recommend them to non-techies. My $0.02.
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MoHoGalore said:
Why did you even bother posting this? Why not just go to the XDA Iphone site?..
Eh, we'd knew it was gonna happen. Even drew a One X Att user in on it.. :silly:
You jest right? So you want to see a bunch of silly pictures and all?
Jay or Pappa, please move this to XDA General or lock? Thank you! (can ya even throw it waaaaay over to BigPengs fav XDA Iphone forum?? )
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Yeah but it doesn't HAVE to degenerate like that, people just enjoy spamming random crap way too much. I don't see the problem with a little honest discussion on the subject.
k4p741nkrunch said:
You hit the nail on the head with the lack of innovations. At this point I don't care if they're stolen, just give us something to rave about! Seemed like this iPhone was just another "Let's get it up to par with the current Android devices and work on the real innovation for next year" release. I don't inherently hate Apple. They're responsible for a large chunk of why computing is so integrated into our daily lives. I just miss the days when they were changing them.
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Exactly right about Apple "getting up to par" with current Android devices, but IMO I think they failed to do that today. I think the S3 is a better device.
I'd choose my current E4GT running JB with Google Now over the new iPhone and Siri (leaving the 4G LTE out if the evaluation).
Like I said in my OP I've been an Apple fan/user my whole life and don't want this thread to focus on bashing Apple rather look at the real facts beyond the world's best hype machine.
I actually like the iPhone 5. Sadly it isn't exciting. It isn't like. ERMAHGERD ERPHERN5, its just boring besides small changes..
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FitChicago said:
Exactly right about Apple "getting up to par" with current Android devices, but IMO I think they failed to do that today. I think the S3 is a better device.
I'd choose my current E4GT running JB with Google Now over the new iPhone and Siri (leaving the 4G LTE out if the evaluation).
Like I said in my OP I've been an Apple fan/user my whole life and don't want this thread to focus on bashing Apple rather look at the real facts beyond the world's best hype machine.
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I'm still not convinced that Google Now is a match for Siri, to me it's comparing Kiwi and lemons. What makes the iPhone stand out is what has always made it standout, the how noob friendly it is, to us geeks who hack our phones it seems outdated and almost childish, but to users like my mom who just want a simple non-customizable phone that does what they tell it too every time the iPhone is perfect. That's always been what Apple is, magnificent hardware(If slightly behind the curve), dumbed down UI, and the sole focus being user experience out of the box.
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Yeah but it doesn't HAVE to degenerate like that, people just enjoy spamming random crap way too much. I don't see the problem with a little honest discussion on the subject.
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While you are correct, when does that happen? And the OP even knew it would with the last sentence in the opening.. Hence my question of why even doing it?
If civility is what he was looking for, then why not go to the place for it?.. But I digress from the OP, so I'll stay on topic..
Op- are you really surprised?
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While you are correct, when does that happen? And the OP even knew it would with the last sentence in the opening.. Hence my question of why even doing it?
If civility is what he was looking for, then why not go to the place for it?.. But I digress from the OP, so I'll stay on topic..
Op- are you really surprised?
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Oh I know what you mean, and he knew what would happen, but I'm still going to do my part to try and keep on-topic and reasonable.
thewadegeek said:
Being a daily Apple user I agree with the above, Apple lost a lot when Steve Jobs died. However I wouldn't say that it is "just bringing it up to the current Android devices." I mean have you seen the hardware on that sucker? It's freaking gorgeous! You get Siri(Which I personally find fun and amusing), Airplay, Airprint, and iCloud which is a pretty nice service for those with Macs. I don't think the iPhone is for everyone, but I never have hesitated to recommend them to non-techies. My $0.02.
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Yeah but it doesn't HAVE to degenerate like that, people just enjoy spamming random crap way too much. I don't see the problem with a little honest discussion on the subject.
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I agree that the hardware is impressive but the integration you mention is only fully realized if you're using a Mac; the majority of customers are Windows users and the integration isn't as seamless- if you've ever run iTunes on a Mac and then used it in a Windows OS you know exactly what I mean. Whereas innovations like Play Music and almost every Google/Android gapps is seamlessly integrated and able to be accessed anywhere.
I am most impressed by Apple's incredible PR team and wonder why Google or Samsung isn't trying to hire every member of Apple's PR staff. A good example of the skills of their team: the same megapixel camera we have had on the E4GT for a year (including our panoramic capabilities) is being hyped as an innovative wow factor.
Wait, i have a question since you wanted a discussion.
How can you say blah when you said you have never owned one and what you know is by paper only?
Take this phone for example. How many people are so impressed by white papers but once they get the phone they then say "blah"?...
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I'm still not convinced that Google Now is a match for Siri, to me it's comparing Kiwi and lemons. What makes the iPhone stand out is what has always made it standout, the how noob friendly it is, to us geeks who hack our phones it seems outdated and almost childish, but to users like my mom who just want a simple non-customizable phone that does what they tell it too every time the iPhone is perfect. That's always been what Apple is, magnificent hardware(If slightly behind the curve), dumbed down UI, and the sole focus being user experience out of the box.
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You're absolutely right about it being noob friendly (just wait until they allow the Jitterbug as a provider offering it LOL).
I do like Google Now but find its true value in the notifications and location based things it alerts me about; but the voice based capabilities are strong but IMO, like siri it's more of a cute thing to play with.
We all know how iPhone threads end up. This is about the 341,952 thread I've had to close today. There is an off topic discussion area to chat about the iPhone related topics, as this will go downhill very fast.
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Anyone else see this KitKat/Android? Good watch!!!
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Anyone else see this KitKat/Android? Good watch!!!
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As a rule, American mainstream chocolates are disgustingly sugary confections designed to make you gag.
Please don't break me off a piece of that KitKat Bar. :silly:
How about Android Diabetes Type 1, six months later to be followed by Diabetes Type 2?
Wow someone is cynical...
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Wow someone is cynical...
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And why not?
It is an extremely cynical move by two massive megacorp companies (both with troubled ethical histories) betting LOTS of money on people being brainless stupid herdable sheep. Instead of calling me cynical, you should feel a bit affronted at Google....because both these corps are saying very blatantly that they think we consumers are brainless programmable robots who will jump when asked.
Google and Nestle can claim no money was traded hands all they want...but there was quid pro quo, you can bet your entire lifetime earnings and savings there was.
I don't like eating chocolates now a days but Kit Kat is very relatable and very marketable.
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That statement is crap and heres why everyone has a choice to do or in this case eat whatever or however much of somthing too much water is harmful to your health. So please stop saying americans cause like I said everyone has a choice. And for the fact I was born in Jamaica and live in America
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Honestly great marketing ploy. Hope it works out well for both products. I'm not a fan of KitKat. I don't like the crunchy center crap. But hey, why not.
Now if it were Reese's peanut butter cups, now those I love. And it's not even the chocolate of it. It's their peanut butter that I like.
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because both these corps are saying very blatantly that they think we consumers are brainless programmable robots who will jump when asked.
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Ohhh just like Apple, INC. Put it in colors, change a letter and sell another billion of them. Brainless programmable robots will line up for days. If you can't beat them, join them.
Haven't seen a single one yet. All normal kit kat bars in stores.
With the horrible Halloween coming up, all the candy is starting to have a halloween theme. A good idea on google's part, but perhaps poorly timed.
i really hate people using the word "sheep" like they're not one also. we're all sheep, and choose which flock to run with. saying that, real sheep actually care what they call the new os. tech guys shouldn't give a crap what they call it as long as it's offers improvements.
Yeah cause Hershey would just promote android on all of their packages for free...
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i really hate people using the word "sheep" like they're not one also. we're all sheep, and choose which flock to run with. saying that, real sheep actually care what they call the new os. tech guys shouldn't give a crap what they call it as long as it's offers improvements.
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Agree and disagree:
I disagree with you about the sheep analogy. We are not all sheep choosing flocks to follow. Sheep are herd animals and humans are pack animals (at least this used to be true). The iSheep represent the ever growing part of humanity that has made the transformation into herd animals. I, and many of us here, refuse to be transformed by media/advertizing/image consultants into a bleating wooly douchebag. The analogy for those like me would be that of the wolf; a pack animal who, whether alone or with his pack, will divide the herd and eventually bite and eat one of them.
I agree that it doesn't matter what branding Android 4.4 has...I've always referred to version anyway
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chzeckmate said:
Agree and disagree:
I disagree with you about the sheep analogy. We are not all sheep choosing flocks to follow. Sheep are herd animals and humans are pack animals (at least this used to be true). The iSheep represent the ever growing part of humanity that has made the transformation into herd animals. I, and many of us here, refuse to be transformed by media/advertizing/image consultants into a bleating wooly douchebag. The analogy for those like me would be that of the wolf; a pack animal who, whether alone or with his pack, will divide the herd and eventually bite and eat one of them.
I agree that it doesn't matter what branding Android 4.4 has...I've always referred to version anyway
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Like CHZECK said, version and improvements are all that matter. They can call it ANDROID VERSION CRAP 2.0 for all I care, as long as they fix the bugs, improve the user experience and put APPLE out of business, I am happy!
GROOVYJOSH1975 said:
Like CHZECK said, version and improvements are all that matter. They can call it ANDROID VERSION CRAP 2.0 for all I care, as long as they fix the bugs, improve the user experience and put APPLE out of business, I am happy!
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Lol yea if apple went out of business I probably would smile. But I doubt it. Unless all android phone make you feel like your apart of a society than its not happening. The only manufacturer that makes you feel as though your part of a society like apple is Samsung. Which is why I like their phones. People see Iphone. And think upper class, sophistication, and belonging. Which gives them a sense of belonging to a group of elite. I mean who dont want to walk around feeling like their worth a million bucks with year old tech smh. We look at Samsung and see innovation, future, and a sense of belonging to a group of intellectual individuals even though on xda some people make me wonder with questions like whats rooting or a kernel, But they have a profile lol. Since Samsung set a stepping stone on what sales and devices should look like htc, lg and everyone else is really stepping it up. So apple may be in trouble in the future but as of right now. There to many zombies for them to sell to.... my bad for the essay
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I personally don't want to see Apple go out of business. I like competition. I think it actually benefits us consumers.
Personally, I don't think Samsung is the bee's knees or anything, but they do make a few products I enjoy, such as the Galaxy Note series smartphone. My enjoy derives nothing from Apple's products. I like they're Android, are rootable with fair ease, have SD card slots, pullable batteries, and actually make the phablet one of the flagship phones, instead of an after though like many other companies.
I'm not an Apple fan. I don't know about the company now with CEO Cook, but under Jobs reign, they were able to make things people found useful and wanted. I don't think they really came up with many ideas that were original, but found the right delivery of it. Plus, since Apple tries to just make everything work, that's that many less people who's electronics I ultimately end up fixing; it gets irritating always fixing other people's crap because they don't have a clue.
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I personally don't want to see Apple go out of business. I like competition. I think it actually benefits us consumers.
Personally, I don't think Samsung is the bee's knees or anything, but they do make a few products I enjoy, such as the Galaxy Note series smartphone. My enjoy derives nothing from Apple's products. I like they're Android, are rootable with fair ease, have SD card slots, pullable batteries, and actually make the phablet one of the flagship phones, instead of an after though like many other companies.
I'm not an Apple fan. I don't know about the company now with CEO Cook, but under Jobs reign, they were able to make things people found useful and wanted. I don't think they really came up with many ideas that were original, but found the right delivery of it. Plus, since Apple tries to just make everything work, that's that many less people who's electronics I ultimately end up fixing; it gets irritating always fixing other people's crap because they don't have a clue.
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Yea the competition is fun. I use to be an apple fan but I've always been more of a fan of customizations. When android came out I was torn because I mean you could customize a iphone 3g and 3gs at the time when jail broken. But android had launchers icons. Colors, mp3 ringtone makers. Rooting, and constantly adding more features. I actually waited for apples response. Now so many years later. Their finally responding with a more customizable ui its to late. Im done with them. Plus I saw people happy as **** that they could swipe their Iphone cross registers and pay for gas all with nfc enabled I laughed. Only because my S3 was doing that while the Iphone 4 was still on 3g like its 3g/s predecessor. Lol or my e4gt was rocking 4g wimax. It's kinda crazy though because in the tortoise and hare race. Apple the tortoise was winning the race with out dated tech smh. Apple is a cult lol
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yea the competition is fun. I use to be an apple fan but i've always been more of a fan of customizations. When android came out i was torn because i mean you could customize a iphone 3g and 3gs at the time when jail broken. But android had launchers icons. Colors, mp3 ringtone makers. Rooting, and constantly adding more features. I actually waited for apples response. Now so many years later. Their finally responding with a more customizable ui its to late. Im done with them. Plus i saw people happy as **** that they could swipe their iphone cross registers and pay for gas all with nfc enabled i laughed. Only because my s3 was doing that while the iphone 4 was still on 3g like its 3g/s predecessor. Lol or my e4gt was rocking 4g wimax. It's kinda crazy though because in the tortoise and hare race. Apple the tortoise was winning the race with out dated tech smh. Apple is a cult lol
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lol, I hate apple!
Would Samsung be the would with all the rumors about them starting up Tizen and all? But most of what you say I believe is true but forgive the newbies. We all were one once
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Would Samsung be the would with all the rumors about them starting up Tizen and all? But most of what you say I believe is true but forgive the newbies. We all were one once
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Samsung runs the world lol considering that they make tons more stuff than just phones. Everything in my house is Samsung. Only apple I own is in the bottom trey of my fridge and thats even rotten
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