I've been an Apple user since my parent's bought the first Mac when it debuted; sure I was like 5 but I grew up on Macs.
I've never owned an iPhone but have seriously considered it, researched it and chose Android for a number of reasons. I upgraded to the E4GT last year, most of my friends and family worship at the church of the iPhone and upon seeing the E4GT every single iPhonatic was blown away by how much better it is than their device.
Which brings me to today's announcement: I couldn't be less impressed-- the days of Apple innovation seem like a distant memory. The most impressive thing that Apple showcased today is that it has the world's greatest public relations team; I couldn't be more impressed by their PR machine.
Also, in reading many mainstream news articles about the new iPhone I've seen a plethora of quotes from stock analysts about the device's hardware and design but only a few quotes from tech experts; it's very telling that the only people raving about it are those with a vested interest in seeing the stock price go up.
Look forward to your thoughts and countless "cool story bro" replies ...
Umm in before jay gets here? Lol
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You hit the nail on the head with the lack of innovations. At this point I don't care if they're stolen, just give us something to rave about! Seemed like this iPhone was just another "Let's get it up to par with the current Android devices and work on the real innovation for next year" release. I don't inherently hate Apple. They're responsible for a large chunk of why computing is so integrated into our daily lives. I just miss the days when they were changing them.
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Umm in before jay gets here? Lol
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Why would this thread be problematic?
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Look forward to your thoughts and countless "cool story bro" replies ...
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Why did you even bother posting this? Why not just go to the XDA Iphone site?..
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Umm in before jay gets here? Lol
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Eh, we'd knew it was gonna happen. Even drew a One X Att user in on it.. :silly:
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Why would this thread be problematic?
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You jest right? So you want to see a bunch of silly pictures and all?
Jay or Pappa, please move this to XDA General or lock? Thank you! (can ya even throw it waaaaay over to BigPengs fav XDA Iphone forum?? )
I lawled at the announcement of the iphone5 and this picture describes it all
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Jay or Pappa, please move this to XDA General or lock? Thank you! (can ya even throw it waaaaay over to BigPengs fav XDA Iphone forum?? )
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I thought bigpeng would create this thread
TeAm VeNuM: Choose your pOiSoN
Cool stor....... nvm.
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Why did you even bother posting this? Why not just go to the XDA Iphone site?..
Eh, we'd knew it was gonna happen. Even drew a One X Att user in on it.. :silly:
You jest right? So you want to see a bunch of silly pictures and all?
Jay or Pappa, please move this to XDA General or lock? Thank you! (can ya even throw it waaaaay over to BigPengs fav XDA Iphone forum?? )
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I thought bigpeng would create this thread
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iVazn....
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k4p741nkrunch said:
You hit the nail on the head with the lack of innovations. At this point I don't care if they're stolen, just give us something to rave about! Seemed like this iPhone was just another "Let's get it up to par with the current Android devices and work on the real innovation for next year" release. I don't inherently hate Apple. They're responsible for a large chunk of why computing is so integrated into our daily lives. I just miss the days when they were changing them.
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Being a daily Apple user I agree with the above, Apple lost a lot when Steve Jobs died. However I wouldn't say that it is "just bringing it up to the current Android devices." I mean have you seen the hardware on that sucker? It's freaking gorgeous! You get Siri(Which I personally find fun and amusing), Airplay, Airprint, and iCloud which is a pretty nice service for those with Macs. I don't think the iPhone is for everyone, but I never have hesitated to recommend them to non-techies. My $0.02.
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Why did you even bother posting this? Why not just go to the XDA Iphone site?..
Eh, we'd knew it was gonna happen. Even drew a One X Att user in on it.. :silly:
You jest right? So you want to see a bunch of silly pictures and all?
Jay or Pappa, please move this to XDA General or lock? Thank you! (can ya even throw it waaaaay over to BigPengs fav XDA Iphone forum?? )
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Yeah but it doesn't HAVE to degenerate like that, people just enjoy spamming random crap way too much. I don't see the problem with a little honest discussion on the subject.
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You hit the nail on the head with the lack of innovations. At this point I don't care if they're stolen, just give us something to rave about! Seemed like this iPhone was just another "Let's get it up to par with the current Android devices and work on the real innovation for next year" release. I don't inherently hate Apple. They're responsible for a large chunk of why computing is so integrated into our daily lives. I just miss the days when they were changing them.
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Exactly right about Apple "getting up to par" with current Android devices, but IMO I think they failed to do that today. I think the S3 is a better device.
I'd choose my current E4GT running JB with Google Now over the new iPhone and Siri (leaving the 4G LTE out if the evaluation).
Like I said in my OP I've been an Apple fan/user my whole life and don't want this thread to focus on bashing Apple rather look at the real facts beyond the world's best hype machine.
I actually like the iPhone 5. Sadly it isn't exciting. It isn't like. ERMAHGERD ERPHERN5, its just boring besides small changes..
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Exactly right about Apple "getting up to par" with current Android devices, but IMO I think they failed to do that today. I think the S3 is a better device.
I'd choose my current E4GT running JB with Google Now over the new iPhone and Siri (leaving the 4G LTE out if the evaluation).
Like I said in my OP I've been an Apple fan/user my whole life and don't want this thread to focus on bashing Apple rather look at the real facts beyond the world's best hype machine.
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I'm still not convinced that Google Now is a match for Siri, to me it's comparing Kiwi and lemons. What makes the iPhone stand out is what has always made it standout, the how noob friendly it is, to us geeks who hack our phones it seems outdated and almost childish, but to users like my mom who just want a simple non-customizable phone that does what they tell it too every time the iPhone is perfect. That's always been what Apple is, magnificent hardware(If slightly behind the curve), dumbed down UI, and the sole focus being user experience out of the box.
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Yeah but it doesn't HAVE to degenerate like that, people just enjoy spamming random crap way too much. I don't see the problem with a little honest discussion on the subject.
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While you are correct, when does that happen? And the OP even knew it would with the last sentence in the opening.. Hence my question of why even doing it?
If civility is what he was looking for, then why not go to the place for it?.. But I digress from the OP, so I'll stay on topic..
Op- are you really surprised?
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While you are correct, when does that happen? And the OP even knew it would with the last sentence in the opening.. Hence my question of why even doing it?
If civility is what he was looking for, then why not go to the place for it?.. But I digress from the OP, so I'll stay on topic..
Op- are you really surprised?
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Oh I know what you mean, and he knew what would happen, but I'm still going to do my part to try and keep on-topic and reasonable.
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Being a daily Apple user I agree with the above, Apple lost a lot when Steve Jobs died. However I wouldn't say that it is "just bringing it up to the current Android devices." I mean have you seen the hardware on that sucker? It's freaking gorgeous! You get Siri(Which I personally find fun and amusing), Airplay, Airprint, and iCloud which is a pretty nice service for those with Macs. I don't think the iPhone is for everyone, but I never have hesitated to recommend them to non-techies. My $0.02.
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Yeah but it doesn't HAVE to degenerate like that, people just enjoy spamming random crap way too much. I don't see the problem with a little honest discussion on the subject.
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I agree that the hardware is impressive but the integration you mention is only fully realized if you're using a Mac; the majority of customers are Windows users and the integration isn't as seamless- if you've ever run iTunes on a Mac and then used it in a Windows OS you know exactly what I mean. Whereas innovations like Play Music and almost every Google/Android gapps is seamlessly integrated and able to be accessed anywhere.
I am most impressed by Apple's incredible PR team and wonder why Google or Samsung isn't trying to hire every member of Apple's PR staff. A good example of the skills of their team: the same megapixel camera we have had on the E4GT for a year (including our panoramic capabilities) is being hyped as an innovative wow factor.
Wait, i have a question since you wanted a discussion.
How can you say blah when you said you have never owned one and what you know is by paper only?
Take this phone for example. How many people are so impressed by white papers but once they get the phone they then say "blah"?...
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I'm still not convinced that Google Now is a match for Siri, to me it's comparing Kiwi and lemons. What makes the iPhone stand out is what has always made it standout, the how noob friendly it is, to us geeks who hack our phones it seems outdated and almost childish, but to users like my mom who just want a simple non-customizable phone that does what they tell it too every time the iPhone is perfect. That's always been what Apple is, magnificent hardware(If slightly behind the curve), dumbed down UI, and the sole focus being user experience out of the box.
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You're absolutely right about it being noob friendly (just wait until they allow the Jitterbug as a provider offering it LOL).
I do like Google Now but find its true value in the notifications and location based things it alerts me about; but the voice based capabilities are strong but IMO, like siri it's more of a cute thing to play with.
We all know how iPhone threads end up. This is about the 341,952 thread I've had to close today. There is an off topic discussion area to chat about the iPhone related topics, as this will go downhill very fast.
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http://9to5mac.com/2011/10/03/co-founder-of-siri-assistant-is-a-world-changing-event-interview/
That is a lot of bluster. We'll see if it lives up to that hype.
It's SKYNET!!! Kill it with fire before it takes over!!!
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Pffft. It's all talk until I see a working copy released which doesn't suck.
... and when it happens, I will name mine "Jane."
Well sure..we'll see. I remember reading about siri when they bought it and was pretty intrigued about the prospects for smartphone use.
It wouldn't surprise me if we see it on the I5.... And yeah it would be another apple game changer... 1 that would have the rest of the industry take a long time to catch up on given that apple owns technology.
All I know is they better have a keyboard on board!
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lol, hyperbole
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Well sure..we'll see. I remember reading about siri when they bought it and was pretty intrigued about the prospects for smartphone use.
It wouldn't surprise me if we see it on the I5.... And yeah it would be another apple game changer... 1 that would have the rest of the industry take a long time to catch up on given that apple owns technology.
All I know is they better have a keyboard on board!
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I cant do anything with a iphone its to small much less use the keyboard
What's so new about this Android has it since like forever? May be for dumb ppl who still think Iphone4 has 4G?
Usually on HTC there's a 30% chance you'll get rational exchanges when Apple's in the mix looks like this one hits that mark lol. If Siri (ever researched it?) were hotly rumored to be on the Nexus Prime, it'd be the dominant buzz topic on HTC, guarantee it...he'll were hot and bothered over device credit transactions...
Ok.. back to the google+ android circles on this one...there's at least an appreciation for the technology and it's smartphone implications.
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"This is real AI..."
Sorry, but no. The sheer amount of stored data required to actually accomplish a true "AI" won't be fitting in a smartphone anytime soon, and until someone has an always-on, 10+mb downlink network as a normal mobile broadband connection, it certainly won't be cloud based either. This will be nothing more than very very good speach-initiated actions.
On a related note, don't be surprised if ICS also beefs up it's speech control. It's been a long time since pico tts was implemented, and now with the standard amount of storage space in smart phones they can afford to inject a bigger database.
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Using voice for a phone is a gimmick.. I've owned many smartphones and never felt the need for it.
Apple is going to add voice recognition and navigation, two things google perfected years ago, and the tech journalists are going to get all hot over Apple's innovation. The end.
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Apple is going to add voice recognition and navigation, two things google perfected years ago, and the tech journalists are going to get all hot over Apple's innovation. The end.
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The sad thing is I can totally see that being the case. /smh
Why is this even posted here? If I wanted to read iPhone threads, I'd go to an iPhone forum.
In before I get flamed. And yeah, "if you don't like the thread, don't open it" .... whatever.
Is this a joke? Siri? Voice recognition with included internet search compatibility? Wow!!! Amazing!!! Not. Apple will be able to spin it as a ground breaking development to the idiot masses although this technology already exists and all that's different is more integration with voice command. On top of that it's boring and not as useful as they like to make it look. If this is all Apple's got it's pathetic. I don't even feel like responding to Apples non sense any longer is warranted. Let them sue everyone on the planet, they know their days are numbered and see the writing on the wall way better than I can.
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Why is this even posted here? If I wanted to read iPhone threads, I'd go to an iPhone forum.
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Agreed, posting some Apple crap voice recognition search utility on an ET4G Android forum on XDA Developers must be a joke. I think it's a joke unless its another retarded fanboy that doesn't know any better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPPcTN5sdX4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Notice the date of the posted video was August 11, 2010
Apple its so cutting edge ::rolls eyes::
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Apple is going to add voice recognition and navigation, two things google perfected years ago, and the tech journalists are going to get all hot over Apple's innovation. The end.
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Agreed, and then Apple's going to sue everyone who has voice recognition claiming it belongs to them. I'm wondering, have they ever tried suing Applebee's? Isn't there an apple in their sign too?
Apple be gone!
And whoever posted about this post being here in our ET forum, I agree, can a moderator move this Crapple junk out for the trash truck to pick up? Surely there's a "lawsuits-r-us" or "lawsuits-r-apple" website somewhere that this can be rejected into.
Yup we all needed to have "that" thread to make incompetent people sush
My friend keeps nagging me about her iphone 4s and that useless siri. Post pictures or short videos to show that we are superior! I just want to win for argument's sake
Make this thread fun and amusing as possible
Ask her how much an extended battery is for her phone....or maybe ask her to show u her sd card slot. No? How about 4.52in of amoled+ goodness?
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Ask her how much an extended battery is for her phone....or maybe ask her to show u her sd card slot. No? How about 4.52in of amoled+ goodness?
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See the thing is, iphone users arent even that "technical" and her arguement would be like "so what, mine does more and still better"...lol
Screw Siri,
ask her what she does when her battery craps out? Or when she wants more ROM? Android is so far superior than that iCrap. We are not proprietary like iCrap!
Video, Video, we don't need no stinkin Video's......
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Screw Siri,
ask her what she does when her battery craps out? Or when she wants more ROM? Android is so far superior than that iCrap. We are not proprietary like iCrap!
Video, Video, we don't need no stinkin Video's......
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ive always tried going technical and stuff but they just never understand! lmfao
Widgets... end of debate...
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Ask what happens when your friend is trying to use siri in a room where so many people are talking loudly?
Not having to use iTunes was worth switching to android on its own.
I'm not going to lie to you...from a technology standpoint, Siri is pretty excellent. I do hope Google catches up in regard to setting reminders, calendar events and non-email notes via Voice.
On the other hand, who wants to pay an exorbitant cost on a dated framework, unreliable service and 100% liability device? Anybody...anybody...Bueller?
Didn't think so.
Plus the screen is just so gosh darn teeny. Feh..
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All I see is an app drawer when I look at an iphone. I always said there's more to a phone than just apps. Yes widgets, extended batteries, expandable memory, hacking, launchers, keyboards, fonts, themes, live wallpapers, huge screen, not having to use iTunes, endless customizing. Only Borg type people are iphone users. Plus your supporting shady business practice.
The biggest turn off is the tiny screen. Ive also told people I couldnt deal with such a small screen.
Why do we have to argue/debate with people over this? My brother and his gf both have iPhone 4S's, I don't give a ****, that's their choice. I don't get the constant competing with users of cell phone OS's.
I usually don't but once in a while you'll get that smug ifan android basher that has no clue what their talking about. OP just wants a few talking points to shut them up.
Best ones:
IPhone is a smartphone for dumb people.
Tiny screen is unacceptable.
Slave to apples dictatorship on how your phone will look and operate.
Supporting a company that competes through litigation instead of innovation in a free market.
Overpriced handsets with sub par specs and quality. $750 for the 4s? Seriously? My ET4g has 48 gigs of memory.
Apple products are made with Samsung parts and at the same time trying to sue them and ban their products.
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Why do we have to argue/debate with people over this? My brother and his gf both have iPhone 4S's, I don't give a ****, that's their choice. I don't get the constant competing with users of cell phone OS's.
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Thread is for fun, relax buddy xD. And i just need some counter arguments from a friend who attacked me first! haha
How about about some 100MPH tape over her smug mouth so you don't have to hear it? There is no talking reason with those lemmings who follow the pied piper. The music is all they hear. Agree to disagree.
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Thread is for fun, relax buddy xD. And i just need some counter arguments from a friend who attacked me first! haha
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I'm very relaxed, I just tend to ignore people that are immature enough to attack me over my choice in a cell phone. Just was merely trying to show that its a silly waste of time to debate people over this, when in the end their gonna make their own choices.... which is what I personally love the most about Android, choice.
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I'm very relaxed, I just tend to ignore people that are immature enough to attack me over my choice in a cell phone. Just was merely trying to show that its a silly waste of time to debate people over this, when in the end their gonna make their own choices.... which is what I personally love the most about Android, choice.
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It's not a debate! lol. I just need reasons and as I said, this is for fun. So this is just a way to kill time
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Yup we all needed to have "that" thread to make incompetent people sush
My friend keeps nagging me about her iphone 4s and that useless siri. Post pictures or short videos to show that we are superior! I just want to win for argument's sake
Make this thread fun and amusing as possible
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...Is she a barista?
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How about the most basic of facts...just tell her, "hey, I get why you love that i-thing...who do you think made that processor and pixel-dense screen?...SAMSUNG" That's always a fun fact to throw at 'em. Good times =D
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I usually don't but once in a while you'll get that smug ifan android basher that has no clue what their talking about. OP just wants a few talking points to shut them up.
Best ones:
IPhone is a smartphone for dumb people.
Tiny screen is unacceptable.
Slave to apples dictatorship on how your phone will look and operate.
Supporting a company that competes through litigation instead of innovation in a free market.
Overpriced handsets with sub par specs and quality.
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I've used both platforms extensively and there are definitely strengths and weaknesses to them both. The arguments back and forth can be pretty funny especially on forums like Engadget. The statement that iPhone users are dumb though is one argument that I find ridiculous. Out of all my friends i am definitely the most tech literate. I flash roms, theme my phones, even write some applications. A lot of the people I know that use iPhones are doctors and lawyers, but don't have that much interest or the time for technology so simple is good. To think you are smarter than someone because you can switch out your launcher or overclock your phone is pretty stupid to begin with. Most of this is just effort. You are probably kidding, so not directed at you... this just always comes up in these "discussiond" especially when folks starting getting personal. Cheers.
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How about the most basic of facts...just tell her, "hey, I get why you love that i-thing...who do you think made that processor and pixel-dense screen?...SAMSUNG" That's always a fun fact to throw at 'em. Good times =D
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GOOD ONE!
I own an android phone. I've always owned android stuff I don't like iOS but I don't sit there going crapple this crapple that. Iphones have their place my step dad asked me what phone to get I said iPhone because its just easier same with my mom. They are still good phones. Yea apple is run by douchebags but that's not the point in this post. Why is it if I love Android I have to hate iOS? I mean I love my Xbox I don't hate PlayStation. Don't hate so much. /rant
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i dont mind the iphone, i just dislike apple's business practices and the general douchery that comes from apple users.
apple and the users think they are better than everything and that bothers me.
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i dont mind the iphone, i just dislike apple's business practices and the general douchery that comes from apple users.
apple and the users think they are better than everything and that bothers me.
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This.
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Its not that we hate apple its the fact that we love android more. Android can do more and is not closed source.
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and the general douchery that comes from apple users.
apple and the users think they are better than everything and that bothers me.
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Yeah but... Fandroids are like that too..
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I actually really like the the design and function of their products. Same as others said before me, I don't like their business practices.
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i dont mind the iphone, i just dislike apple's business practices and the general douchery that comes from apple users.
apple and the users think they are better than everything and that bothers me.
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This.
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Agreed apple create this illusion of eliteness (if that is even a word) with their OS and products. For example Facetime only for iphone users.... what the hell is wrong with skype. But overall I don't hate apple they make some good stuff.
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OK... I've seen douchery from Android users too... so don't be throwing stones in glass houses. It happens in every sector where there's two or more predominant or prevailing standards. People are people, and don't always consider that the opposite camp is full of people too.
As for what Apple's business practices, they've become more like corporate America and it's only this visible because it's become a clash of titans in the market. Patent lawsuits happen ALL THE TIME. It shows up more for us because we're swimming in the same waters as the players in the lawsuits.
All that being said, I have both. I love both for very different reasons and the pro's/con's comparison chart has polar opposites on most individual items with some overlap. But I'm not a fan boy of either since I put my douchery baton in the trash many years ago... we all should.
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i dont mind the iphone, i just dislike apple's business practices and the general douchery that comes from apple users.
apple and the users think they are better than everything and that bothers me.
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Its not that we hate apple its the fact that we love android more. Android can do more and is not closed source.
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Its how they do buisness, the iPhone is good, youd be stupid to say its a heap of trash but its just their buissness style. Take this USA gnex ban they just pulled off on court, just cos they can't produce anything better they throw their toys out the pram instead and the fact the courts don't just say they are being childish annoys me.
People buy apple cos their friends got one, the good advertising and are not clever enough to find a better product for their money.
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No problem with Apple products. As far as they go, fine. They do it well. I have an issue with Apple as a company, their patent system which almost seems to be based on bribes and greed, the almost stomach churning fanbase and the awful closed system where 99% of content is forced through iTunes.
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Yeah but... Fandroids are like that too..
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this is also true, but im more talking about a feeling of being elite just because of a product. it is more apparent with apple users from my observation.
apple is also lawsuit happy right now, which i also detest
A lot of it comes from apple users thinking they're doing stuff symbian, palm and blackberry owners have been doing for awhile. And then apple itself makes it worse with some of the patents like they really did invent smart phones.
butter and jelly please...
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Its how they do buisness, the iPhone is good, youd be stupid to say its a heap of trash
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i never said the iphone was a piece of trash. i dont mind it, but its not for me personally.
I like the build quality (not the design, glass on the back of the phone? really?) and how polished the OS is. However I had to use ios5 as a replacent as my GNEX was out for repairs and that was easily the worst month of my life as far as communications was concerned. Apple phones are not for myself, I would not trade my macbook air for anything else in the world tho.
oh boy a thread for Apple's white knights to post in....
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i never said the iphone was a piece of trash. i dont mind it, but its not for me personally.
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See this. I am actually seeing a lot more sense in here than I assumed I would. Their business practices suck but its a good quality product and its great for some people.
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i dont mind the iphone, i just dislike apple's business practices and the general douchery that comes from apple users.
apple and the users think they are better than everything and that bothers me.
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I xx'th that; in addition, iProducts simply does not fit my requirements: local ogg vorbis support (nearly 10000 of home made audio files are in vorbis), removable battery (I have to switch battery at least twice a day), no direct download from app, cloud, and FTP, no AWS HSPA (don't ask me to switch elsewhere for iProducts, and..."back button" is not always available (app switch button on 3.x and 4.x is pretty handy).
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I own an android phone. I've always owned android stuff I don't like iOS but I don't sit there going crapple this crapple that. Iphones have their place my step dad asked me what phone to get I said iPhone because its just easier same with my mom. They are still good phones. Yea apple is run by douchebags but that's not the point in this post. Why is it if I love Android I have to hate iOS? I mean I love my Xbox I don't hate PlayStation. Don't hate so much. /rant
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I had an iPhone 4. To be honest I liked it a lot. But for an advanced user its so basic and restrictive its suffocating.
I agree. IPhone is a pick up and go device. A lot of people, even most Android users use the phones as they are. And to be honest the iPhone is more user friendly then Android. Which is good for people that aren't electronically inclined or older folk that want to stay up to date with modern technology without complexity. Same for people that buy dells or HPs. They want to pick it up and use it as it is. They don't care about updating software, drivers, firmware, hardware.
On the topic of patent battles. This is a chance for Samsung and Google to show the open source community and the general public what innovation is all about.
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MichaelMcEntire said:
I actually really like the the design and function of their products. Same as others said before me, I don't like their business practices.
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This.
I used to own 2 iPods, 2 iPod Touch and still have the original iPhone somewhere in my house.
They really did make awesome products back then but then they just stopped trying and shift their attention to stop everyone else from trying to innovate.
We all know the core idea of innovation is to take an existing idea/concept and make it better.
I read somewhere on here last year or this year to date (forget which) they spent more on lawyers than on research and design and then claim to be an innovative company. Bollocks to that
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http://www.acsyndicate.net/samsung-strikes-back/
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
Well while we're on this topic here's another blow against Apple via Motorola/Google
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...kes/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
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eao1991 said:
Well while we're on this topic here's another blow against Apple via Motorola/Google
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...kes/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
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I like this one better
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Nice I hate apple. I never buy their junk. Wonder how the ifail 5 will be oh yeah that's right pretty much exactly like the ifail 4****
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
blackdragon79 said:
http://www.acsyndicate.net/samsung-strikes-back/
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
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This means nothing. Acsyndicate.net means nothing to me, or anyone at all.
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Nice I hate apple. I never buy their junk. Wonder how the ifail 5 will be oh yeah that's right pretty much exactly like the ifail 4****
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
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I believe the correct name would be the ifail 4ss
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I wouldn't care who gets sued but the evil empire(apple) brought this and all the suits coming their way especially the one from Motorola/ Google. Apple should have just asked for a small licensing fee and made things easy and reaped the benefits of androids growth instead of making this spectacle and pretty much making them the bad guy in most tech peoples eyes.
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damn, you crazies are angry! I mean seriously, the "butter project" should just about be as fluid as ios 5.
but apple is nice for some folk, like my wife. She can't brick it so i don't have to fix it!
BTW, you realize that even if Apple didn't sue the crap out of every phone manufacturer, the savings would not be passed along to you as the consumer. Samsung, HTC and Motorola would still price mirror the competition and profit. Also, the only people actually winning in these BS lawsuits are the douchebag lawyers, not you and Android.
Come on guys, really...
It's hard to change a brainwashed iSheep's mind.
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I find a lot of accurate information at acs. You can't speak for me ever again!
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The sodium levels in this post. Lol.
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
blackdragon79 said:
The sodium levels in this post. Lol.
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
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I beg to differ. I heavily prefer Android over Iphone, but the Iphone is still really good product. I hate Apple, too.
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I'm perfectly capable of being able to form my own opinion
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
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I'm perfectly capable of being able to form my own opinion
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
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the iPhone was the first. just like Cannondale in mountainbiking
alaman68 said:
the iPhone was the first. just like Cannondale in mountainbiking
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The ifail was the first to do what?
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
Do apple really have any rights to sue knowing they didn't even have an original design. Apple is a joke and so is the judge presiding over this case.
http://endlessparadigm.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=29488
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
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The ifail was the first to do what?
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
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making me crack another beer for this response, and loading another dip! give me five minutes
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The ifail was the first to do what?
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
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first off, i hate Yin and Yang discussions but since this is yet ANOTHER "apple sucks" discussion, lets look at it from your point of view. per your quote from endlessparadigm, Samsung released some garbage ass smartphones to compete with blackberry. Well, Apple then said "F U!" because blackberry blows donkey nuts and turned a phone into a smart device and had the actual "phone" as a simple app. By creating a phone function as a simple "application", the true definition of "smart phone" was defined. This device was not based on the phone alone, but additional apps that carried the same presidense for the end user that the phone did.
Because of this presidense, iPhone users began to use their devices on a regular basis for applications outside of the normal, everyday use of a cell phone. these users were downloading guitar tabs, angry birds, etc... to this device as a means of mobile communication through data cells. This exchange of data with other users led to others seeking the same interchangabililty for a "social" outcome.
As you identify our devices today, the majority of what we do is based on communication. whether it be facebook, twitter or sms, those are all simple applications Apple had the BALLS to integrate as core functions of their OS while others waited for someone else to do it, because they didn't believe it could be done.
Quote Frankly OP, if Apple didn't step the game up and did what they did, you would still be updating your Samsung Design.
The whole lawsuit lost its credibility when Apple claimed people would buy a Samsung device thinking it was an iPhone, at that point if I was the judge I would have thrown it out of my courtroom. If a person buys a Samsung phone thinking it's an iPhone then both phones are smarter than that person anyway, you would have to be a complete moron to make that mistake
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making me crack another beer for this response, and loading another dip! give me five minutes
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first off, i hate Yin and Yang discussions but since this is yet ANOTHER "apple sucks" discussion, lets look at it from your point of view. per your quote from endlessparadigm, Samsung released some garbage ass smartphones to compete with blackberry. Well, Apple then said "F U!" because blackberry blows donkey nuts and turned a phone into a smart device and had the actual "phone" as a simple app. By creating a phone function as a simple "application", the true definition of "smart phone" was defined. This device was not based on the phone alone, but additional apps that carried the same presidense for the end user that the phone did.
Because of this presidense, iPhone users began to use their devices on a regular basis for applications outside of the normal, everyday use of a cell phone. these users were downloading guitar tabs, angry birds, etc... to this device as a means of mobile communication through data cells. This exchange of data with other users led to others seeking the same interchangabililty for a "social" outcome.
As you identify our devices today, the majority of what we do is based on communication. whether it be facebook, twitter or sms, those are all simple applications Apple had the BALLS to integrate as core functions of their OS while others waited for someone else to do it, because they didn't believe it could be done.
Quote Frankly OP, if Apple didn't step the game up and did what they did, you would still be updating your Samsung Design.
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Yeah, iOS was sort of a pioneer for us. The ORIGINAL touchwiz does seem more or less a copy, but they did grow from that over the years.
The fact of the matter is, if apple wins, they'll have the ego to start going after more and more companies probably even google. Our OS is on the line atm, which is why alot of us our up in arms
I like to think of Apple as republicans, sure they had good intentions at the start, but they let the money and influence get to their heads. Like Republicans now a days, they go after anyone that's not them and kick em in the balls, partially for no right or reason.
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Apple and Republican being compared with similarities LMAO. Thats classic!!
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Anyone else see this KitKat/Android? Good watch!!!
Adam1422 said:
Anyone else see this KitKat/Android? Good watch!!!
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As a rule, American mainstream chocolates are disgustingly sugary confections designed to make you gag.
Please don't break me off a piece of that KitKat Bar. :silly:
How about Android Diabetes Type 1, six months later to be followed by Diabetes Type 2?
Wow someone is cynical...
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Blitzpwnage said:
Wow someone is cynical...
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And why not?
It is an extremely cynical move by two massive megacorp companies (both with troubled ethical histories) betting LOTS of money on people being brainless stupid herdable sheep. Instead of calling me cynical, you should feel a bit affronted at Google....because both these corps are saying very blatantly that they think we consumers are brainless programmable robots who will jump when asked.
Google and Nestle can claim no money was traded hands all they want...but there was quid pro quo, you can bet your entire lifetime earnings and savings there was.
I don't like eating chocolates now a days but Kit Kat is very relatable and very marketable.
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That statement is crap and heres why everyone has a choice to do or in this case eat whatever or however much of somthing too much water is harmful to your health. So please stop saying americans cause like I said everyone has a choice. And for the fact I was born in Jamaica and live in America
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Honestly great marketing ploy. Hope it works out well for both products. I'm not a fan of KitKat. I don't like the crunchy center crap. But hey, why not.
Now if it were Reese's peanut butter cups, now those I love. And it's not even the chocolate of it. It's their peanut butter that I like.
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because both these corps are saying very blatantly that they think we consumers are brainless programmable robots who will jump when asked.
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Ohhh just like Apple, INC. Put it in colors, change a letter and sell another billion of them. Brainless programmable robots will line up for days. If you can't beat them, join them.
Haven't seen a single one yet. All normal kit kat bars in stores.
With the horrible Halloween coming up, all the candy is starting to have a halloween theme. A good idea on google's part, but perhaps poorly timed.
i really hate people using the word "sheep" like they're not one also. we're all sheep, and choose which flock to run with. saying that, real sheep actually care what they call the new os. tech guys shouldn't give a crap what they call it as long as it's offers improvements.
Yeah cause Hershey would just promote android on all of their packages for free...
madsquabbles said:
i really hate people using the word "sheep" like they're not one also. we're all sheep, and choose which flock to run with. saying that, real sheep actually care what they call the new os. tech guys shouldn't give a crap what they call it as long as it's offers improvements.
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Agree and disagree:
I disagree with you about the sheep analogy. We are not all sheep choosing flocks to follow. Sheep are herd animals and humans are pack animals (at least this used to be true). The iSheep represent the ever growing part of humanity that has made the transformation into herd animals. I, and many of us here, refuse to be transformed by media/advertizing/image consultants into a bleating wooly douchebag. The analogy for those like me would be that of the wolf; a pack animal who, whether alone or with his pack, will divide the herd and eventually bite and eat one of them.
I agree that it doesn't matter what branding Android 4.4 has...I've always referred to version anyway
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chzeckmate said:
Agree and disagree:
I disagree with you about the sheep analogy. We are not all sheep choosing flocks to follow. Sheep are herd animals and humans are pack animals (at least this used to be true). The iSheep represent the ever growing part of humanity that has made the transformation into herd animals. I, and many of us here, refuse to be transformed by media/advertizing/image consultants into a bleating wooly douchebag. The analogy for those like me would be that of the wolf; a pack animal who, whether alone or with his pack, will divide the herd and eventually bite and eat one of them.
I agree that it doesn't matter what branding Android 4.4 has...I've always referred to version anyway
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Like CHZECK said, version and improvements are all that matter. They can call it ANDROID VERSION CRAP 2.0 for all I care, as long as they fix the bugs, improve the user experience and put APPLE out of business, I am happy!
GROOVYJOSH1975 said:
Like CHZECK said, version and improvements are all that matter. They can call it ANDROID VERSION CRAP 2.0 for all I care, as long as they fix the bugs, improve the user experience and put APPLE out of business, I am happy!
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Lol yea if apple went out of business I probably would smile. But I doubt it. Unless all android phone make you feel like your apart of a society than its not happening. The only manufacturer that makes you feel as though your part of a society like apple is Samsung. Which is why I like their phones. People see Iphone. And think upper class, sophistication, and belonging. Which gives them a sense of belonging to a group of elite. I mean who dont want to walk around feeling like their worth a million bucks with year old tech smh. We look at Samsung and see innovation, future, and a sense of belonging to a group of intellectual individuals even though on xda some people make me wonder with questions like whats rooting or a kernel, But they have a profile lol. Since Samsung set a stepping stone on what sales and devices should look like htc, lg and everyone else is really stepping it up. So apple may be in trouble in the future but as of right now. There to many zombies for them to sell to.... my bad for the essay
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I personally don't want to see Apple go out of business. I like competition. I think it actually benefits us consumers.
Personally, I don't think Samsung is the bee's knees or anything, but they do make a few products I enjoy, such as the Galaxy Note series smartphone. My enjoy derives nothing from Apple's products. I like they're Android, are rootable with fair ease, have SD card slots, pullable batteries, and actually make the phablet one of the flagship phones, instead of an after though like many other companies.
I'm not an Apple fan. I don't know about the company now with CEO Cook, but under Jobs reign, they were able to make things people found useful and wanted. I don't think they really came up with many ideas that were original, but found the right delivery of it. Plus, since Apple tries to just make everything work, that's that many less people who's electronics I ultimately end up fixing; it gets irritating always fixing other people's crap because they don't have a clue.
lovekeiiy said:
I personally don't want to see Apple go out of business. I like competition. I think it actually benefits us consumers.
Personally, I don't think Samsung is the bee's knees or anything, but they do make a few products I enjoy, such as the Galaxy Note series smartphone. My enjoy derives nothing from Apple's products. I like they're Android, are rootable with fair ease, have SD card slots, pullable batteries, and actually make the phablet one of the flagship phones, instead of an after though like many other companies.
I'm not an Apple fan. I don't know about the company now with CEO Cook, but under Jobs reign, they were able to make things people found useful and wanted. I don't think they really came up with many ideas that were original, but found the right delivery of it. Plus, since Apple tries to just make everything work, that's that many less people who's electronics I ultimately end up fixing; it gets irritating always fixing other people's crap because they don't have a clue.
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Yea the competition is fun. I use to be an apple fan but I've always been more of a fan of customizations. When android came out I was torn because I mean you could customize a iphone 3g and 3gs at the time when jail broken. But android had launchers icons. Colors, mp3 ringtone makers. Rooting, and constantly adding more features. I actually waited for apples response. Now so many years later. Their finally responding with a more customizable ui its to late. Im done with them. Plus I saw people happy as **** that they could swipe their Iphone cross registers and pay for gas all with nfc enabled I laughed. Only because my S3 was doing that while the Iphone 4 was still on 3g like its 3g/s predecessor. Lol or my e4gt was rocking 4g wimax. It's kinda crazy though because in the tortoise and hare race. Apple the tortoise was winning the race with out dated tech smh. Apple is a cult lol
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lorjay589 said:
yea the competition is fun. I use to be an apple fan but i've always been more of a fan of customizations. When android came out i was torn because i mean you could customize a iphone 3g and 3gs at the time when jail broken. But android had launchers icons. Colors, mp3 ringtone makers. Rooting, and constantly adding more features. I actually waited for apples response. Now so many years later. Their finally responding with a more customizable ui its to late. Im done with them. Plus i saw people happy as **** that they could swipe their iphone cross registers and pay for gas all with nfc enabled i laughed. Only because my s3 was doing that while the iphone 4 was still on 3g like its 3g/s predecessor. Lol or my e4gt was rocking 4g wimax. It's kinda crazy though because in the tortoise and hare race. Apple the tortoise was winning the race with out dated tech smh. Apple is a cult lol
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lol, I hate apple!
Would Samsung be the would with all the rumors about them starting up Tizen and all? But most of what you say I believe is true but forgive the newbies. We all were one once
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Would Samsung be the would with all the rumors about them starting up Tizen and all? But most of what you say I believe is true but forgive the newbies. We all were one once
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Samsung runs the world lol considering that they make tons more stuff than just phones. Everything in my house is Samsung. Only apple I own is in the bottom trey of my fridge and thats even rotten
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