Whats left to get official CM10 ? - Defy General

Hello everyone,
now we have a really stable CM9 release and also nearly fully working CM10 builds, I'm wondering whats left to get official CM10 support. Epsylon postet that he an Quarx want to achieve this:
"So we are making a common repo for Defy and Defy+ also, and only this version will have official support..." (or isn't he talking about official CM support?)
CM team posted this diagramm a few month ago. It shows how high the chances are to get official CM9. Well, CM9 seems dead now, but we're still at the marked point I guess:
Now I have two questions: Do you think that even for CM10 a device with same chipset and manufacturer JB is required? Also whats the sense behind this requirement? If we meet Googles ICS/JB APIs and everything is working fine on our device, why do we need other OMAP3 devices with manufacturer ICS/JB?
Maybe we can discuss chances of getting official CM10 in this thread. For me Epsylon seems optimistic, even though he postet this last week:
Epsylon3 said:
Well hmm official will be difficult for the moment because there is not yet OMAP3 devices ....
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Cheers!

They need drivers from the same chipset!
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ppero196 said:
They need drivers from the same chipset!
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Right now are hopes rest on L.G.
They are scheduled to release ICS for Optimus Black in Q3 2012.
It has the same chipset,GPU.

But drivers normaly are a part of the kernel. So manufactured ICS for LG P970 wouldn't bring advantages from my point. In addition we allready have latest GPU driver and all other parts are also working with ICS/JB (Camera, radio, wlan...).

G00fY2 said:
But drivers normaly are a part of the kernel. So manufactured ICS for LG P970 wouldn't bring advantages from my point. In addition we allready have latest GPU driver and all other parts are also working with ICS/JB (Camera, radio, wlan...).
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You actually are making sense .
Maybe the only thing we'll need from it would be the omx decoders .(720)

kanpurite said:
You actually are making sense .
Maybe the only thing we'll need from it would be the omx decoders .(720)
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Hasn't that been donne allready? (See quarx's 11/07 changelog for CM9)
Motorola Defy, CM7 @ 1Ghz + CM9 multiboot
[Guide] Install double boot CM7 + CM9
[Guide][Root needed] Unsimlock your Defy
[Mod/Fix][APP]Messaging apps with ENTER button enabled!

crakeron said:
Hasn't that been donne allready? (See quarx's 11/07 changelog for CM9)
Motorola Defy, CM7 @ 1Ghz + CM9 multiboot
[Guide] Install double boot CM7 + CM9
[Guide][Root needed] Unsimlock your Defy
[Mod/Fix][APP]Messaging apps with ENTER button enabled!
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He is talking about Jellybean..
S3nt fr0m my D3fy/w1u1 GB st4BL3

LG Optimus Black won't be getting the ICS upgrade (at least in Canada) : http://www.gsmarena.com/2011_xperia...no_ics_for_optimus_2x_and_black-news-4570.php
I guess there goes our hopes for official CM10.

Didn't we loose it at the "dedicated GPU" anyway? I thought it was our CPU who was also the GPU. Why would Motorola put a dedicated GPU if they never put an android version using HWA on it?
Anyway no biggie, developers versions released after the official 7.1 & 7.2 have always been better than official releases.
EDIT: my bad, specs on gsmarena says we got a PowerVR SGX530 GPU

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Defy is 3rd most installed CM, why CM not officially supported our devices?

from this news:
http://www.androidcentral.com/cyanogenmod-reaches-half-million-user-milestone?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+androidcentral+%28Android+Central%29&utm_content=Google+Reader
The CyanogenMod user install base has hit the 500,000 mark, according to the stats released by the CM team. This is across all devices, and includes unofficial versions in the numbers. Some interesting totals are 502,364 total installs, 376,066 of which are official while 126,298 are unofficial, or "kangs". We also get a glimpse into the number of installations per device -- you can see the full list at the source, but here's the top five (with install numbers as of Saturday evening):
HTC Desire 70,630
HTC EVO 4G 39,654
Motorola Defy 28,956
Nexus One 26,707
Motorola Droid 21,335
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I just wondering:
1. Are Motorola defy really that popular? Or is it widely used by geeks like Nexus devices?
2. Or We widely us CM from quarx because there are not much good alternative ROM?
3. Why Cyanogen doesn't officially supported this devices, if cyanogen is widely use in this devices, more than other official devices?
I want to use CM for my defy, but still waiting for stable one. I hope if it's officially supported, there will be faster development and have nightly rom.
Sorry for my English, I just want to get this out of my chest.
That's because of the locked bootloader in the Defy - you can only load officially released (or leaked) roms into the Defy because the bootloader checks this when using RDSlite to flash a sbf. So CM cannot produce a version for the defy. The best that can happen is if there is an official or leaked version of Android OS for the Defy with the same version kernel as what CM uses (Android 2.3.4), is for a hacker to take all the nice goodies from CM and restore them via a nandroid backup onto a fixed sbf which has been stripped of all the built-in stuff without breaking it.
So that means you have to wait for a kind hacker to do this hacking for you and post the results for all to use.
That is as far as my understanding goes.
om4gus said:
from this news:
http://www.androidcentral.com/cyanogenmod-reaches-half-million-user-milestone?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+androidcentral+%28Android+Central%29&utm_content=Google+Reader
I just wondering:
1. Are Motorola defy really that popular? Or is it widely used by geeks like Nexus devices?
2. Or We widely us CM from quarx because there are not much good alternative ROM?
3. Why Cyanogen doesn't officially supported this devices, if cyanogen is widely use in this devices, more than other official devices?
I want to use CM for my defy, but still waiting for stable one. I hope if it's officially supported, there will be faster development and have nightly rom.
Sorry for my English, I just want to get this out of my chest.
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The devs of the defy port are working in make official..
but i don't see any difference in being official or not..
Perhaps, because development of CM7 in defy is in Release Candidate.
M usind Dev's CM7 on my defy.. it having a tons of bugs, hope they release it officially for DEFY.
maybe because is in early develpment
Dev works on get CM7 offical.
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_motorola_jordan
It's now official!
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/forum/375-motorola-defy/
Link dead today ?
new link...atlast it is official
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/devices/motorola-defy
arpith.fbi said:
new link...atlast it is official
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I wonder why CyanogenMod gave it official status. I thought that CM requires that the mod be compiled from source, and as the Defy bootloader is still locked it makes it impossible to compile the kernel (And the kernel used in Defy CM7 is just ripped out of another ROM).
I wonder how sustainable the development would be if CM moves to a new kernel that isn't available for the Defy.
What bugs.... you don't know what you are talking about...
It's very stable, i have been using RC1v2 for the last weeks and no reboots no hang no lag, i have 60 apps installed and use every resource the phone has every day.
Other ROM, official or not is "flinstone" compared to CM7.
Sorry for the hard conclusion but it's the truth.
It's no one's fault that Motorola has done a superficial work with defy's drivers... camera for ex... because the defy is a budget smartphone. I understand now Apple's policy... at least they try to make the best software optimization for the device(not talking about features that iOS has or not in comparison to Android)... not an apple fan but i hate Motorola's lack of support for devices... way to many.
Happy that google made them support the devices 18 months after launch.
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[Q] AOSP Icecream Sandwich possible?

Can anyone port ICS to our defy from aosp??
Of course we can, and of course it will be ported...if you people read a bit before posting you would learn that the next version of CyanogenMod with ICS will be CM9. The SDK was just released yesterday so leave them time to work on it . Plus, with our bootloader locked, Quarkx will probably have to make a version of CM9 with the Defy+'s Gingerbread Kernel (our actual one being the Froyo kernel, but i guess it would be too old for an ICS port)
Voilaaa
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crakeron said:
Of course we can, and of course it will be ported...if you people read a bit before posting you would learn that the next version of CyanogenMod with ICS will be CM9. The SDK was just released yesterday so leave them time to work on it . Plus, with our bootloader locked, Quarkx will probably have to make a version of CM9 with the Defy+'s Gingerbread Kernel (our actual one being the Froyo kernel, but i guess it would be too old for an ICS port)
Voilaaa
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I thought that CM8 will come with ICS. Where I can find this information on cyanogenmod site?
crakeron said:
Of course we can, and of course it will be ported...if you people read a bit before posting you would learn that the next version of CyanogenMod with ICS will be CM9. The SDK was just released yesterday so leave them time to work on it . Plus, with our bootloader locked, Quarkx will probably have to make a version of CM9 with the Defy+'s Gingerbread Kernel (our actual one being the Froyo kernel, but i guess it would be too old for an ICS port)
Voilaaa
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Ofcourse not!! As there will be no no SDK port of ICS on CM (source : CM team). We'll only get a port when the official ICS source is out.
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ryan8r said:
Ofcourse not!! As there will be no no SDK port of ICS on CM (source : CM team). We'll only get a port when the official ICS source is out.
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And right you are.
CM8 as intended for the honeycomb version but its source never released. Thus CM8 wont be there. Hope the same wont happen with ICS. According to an old statment by google ICS source should be released

mb525 cm7.2 gb kernel

hi all
I wonder if the gingerbread kernel can work quietly on my defy mb525 green lens module BAYER. I currently have the CM 7.2 nightly with linux kernel 2.6.32.9 (stock froyo 2.2.2) and I'm wondering if this rom is actually compatible with gingerbread kernel, and then everything would work .
in my case, the greenbreadmod lead the camera to work without problems on the cyano?
thanks for your support
yea you can use gb kernel on defy...
defy can work perfectly on froyo and gb kernel but defy+ cannot work on froyo kernel!
Gb kernel on mb 525 have problem with camera and battery
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hey guys can any of you answer this thread about kernels
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1554173
N34S said:
... my defy mb525 green lens module BAYER....
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Do you have green lense or BAYER module? I think you are confusing things. Green lense is SOC module and red lense is BAYER module.
I think so, but i read the log "Detected BAYER device" and 720p does not work. looking better on lamp i see that the lens is green.
Tanzior said:
Gb kernel on mb 525 have problem with camera and battery
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sure it have problem with battery? i want to do this upgrade for improve the battery life, and to make the phone more responsive.
I read that greenbreadmod allows operation of the green lens camera on the gb kernel. by that I could also record video after this upgrade? it's compatible with the cyano?
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I read the 3d started from chachoi : I liked the arpith.fbi's answer, but would like more information about what actually rom works on that kernel and if I can run it with 2nd-boot. I did a test with walter74's 109_DPP-4.5.3-11-kernel, but does not start on CyanogenMod 7.2 (and in fact I riflashed the cm7 kernel signed to return to normal). so there is a gingerbread kernel that works on CM 7.2? (If needed, I would be willing to change even though Rom for having these features.)
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nobody can answer me??
N34S said:
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I read the 3d started from chachoi : I liked the arpith.fbi's answer, but would like more information about what actually rom works on that kernel and if I can run it with 2nd-boot. I did a test with walter74's 109_DPP-4.5.3-11-kernel, but does not start on CyanogenMod 7.2 (and in fact I riflashed the cm7 kernel signed to return to normal). so there is a gingerbread kernel that works on CM 7.2? (If needed, I would be willing to change even though Rom for having these features.)
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see i will try to explain in simple words..kernels in android is like BIOS in a computer..it can run only on one kernel at a time..if u r dual booting, u can use only one kernel..either froyo or GB..u cant run one ROM with froyo kernel and another ROM with GB kernel..
Walter's kernel is GB kernel while CM7.2 uses froyo..tats y it dint start..
remember 2nd-boot is like a virtual OS, it has same BIOS(it uses same kernel)..
arpith.fbi said:
see i will try to explain in simple words..kernels in android is like BIOS in a computer..it can run only on one kernel at a time..if u r dual booting, u can use only one kernel..either froyo or GB..u cant run one ROM with froyo kernel and another ROM with GB kernel..
Walter's kernel is GB kernel while CM7.2 uses froyo..tats y it dint start..
remember 2nd-boot is like a virtual OS, it has same BIOS(it uses same kernel)..
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got it
so if i want to exploit the kernel gb I'll have to switch to one of the defy+ roms for defy. What about the GGL Rom? seems to be a great rom for green lens defy
if you have bayer module than your lens is red. and it does not matter that you can see it green.
Quarx's CM7 Defy+ builds (http://quarx2k.ru/cm7-nightly-defy+/) work perfectly fine with the GB kernel and the battery life is actually better than with the Froyo kernel (at least for me).
You need to install the attached battery fix though since Quarx'x build include the battd for the Defy+. Credits go to Auris 1.6 vvt-i for posting this in the CM9 thread.
The best kernel seems to be 4.5.3-109, which can be downloaded from Walter's MS2Ginger thread.
N34S said:
got it
so if i want to exploit the kernel gb I'll have to switch to one of the defy+ roms for defy. What about the GGL Rom? seems to be a great rom for green lens defy
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GGL uses froyo kernel as it is for green lens users..
twa_priv said:
Quarx's CM7 Defy+ builds (http://quarx2k.ru/cm7-nightly-defy+/) work perfectly fine with the GB kernel and the battery life is actually better than with the Froyo kernel (at least for me).
You need to install the attached battery fix though since Quarx'x build include the battd for the Defy+. Credits go to Auris 1.6 vvt-i for posting this in the CM9 thread.
The best kernel seems to be 4.5.3-109, which can be downloaded from Walter's MS2Ginger thread.
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nice thanks...if the greenbreadmod will work with the camera app of the defy+'s cm7.2?
EDIT: i have just installed the defy+ cm7 and 4.5.3-109-DPP11 walter74's kernel. soon i'll test also the battery. the camera still work, but how to change the telephone model in the telephone details? it will compromise the mb525 hardware on supported applications?
Red lens mb525
Cm7.2
Just switched to cm7.2 from pikachu edition. (figured I check it out) I'm guessing I have a froyo kernel. If I wanted better battery life and smoother gaming would the gb kernel be better to flash or just stay on froyo?
(not the right post but figured I ask it instead of creating a new thread)
V6 supercharger is it worth it.?
how to get the battey % I flashed the battery fix zip yet t shows only "?" icon in place of battery
so is there any rom with bg kernel for green lens (soc)??? if yes than i would like to get a link for it

[Q] Just wondering...

I read in the cyanogenmod forums that that the ROM (the public alpha-1 version) made by arco68 is "unofficial" CM9 ROM. What can be the reason for this custom ROM being "unofficial?"
im sure your not a good of a reader arent you ?
well 1st of all its unofficial because samsung WILL not realease ICS on SGW
and what arco has made is still incomplete ... there is still known bug and unknown bug that hasnt been fix yet ...
and the the ics camera on cm9 for sgw still is not working that's why its not official
chocolemon said:
im sure your not a good of a reader arent you ?
well 1st of all its unofficial because samsung WILL not realease ICS on SGW
and what arco has made is still incomplete ... there is still known bug and unknown bug that hasnt been fix yet ...
and the the ics camera on cm9 for sgw still is not working that's why its not official
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I see .
Before my next question, I wanted to clarify first that by "unofficial," I meant the "unofficial CM9" built by arco68. (I am also aware that Samsung will not release "official" stock ROM)
Now, if that's the case, then what is the difference between the nightly builds (which, I assume are the alpha builds, please correct me if wrong) in the cyanogenmod's device page and the build (Alpha-1) version of arco68's ROM?
it's considered unofficial because it's not being released by the core team from cyanogenmod. They don't and can't work on every single device.
Still, cyanogenmod announced recently that they will support and assist whenever possible independent developers (like arco) and make their ports official at some point and, of course, under certain criteria (QC probably).
AFAIK CM9 for the SGW will become an official CM9 release as soon as it gets finished.
If I'm not mistaken all releases of CM9 are still in alpha stage.

[DRIVER] Adreno 200 JB-4.2 New Driver

Hello guys, today I just found that our device got the JB 4.2 GPU Adreno drivers updated.
Adreno 2xx, and 3xx User-mode Android 4.2 Jelly Bean MR1 Graphics Driver (ARMv7)
Updated 04 Mar 13
This release contains the user-mode driver binaries for Qualcomm's Adreno 3xx and 2xx GPU on Google Android 4.2 Jelly Bean MR1.
It has been tested with the CAF release A8064AAAAANLGD133402.1 and M8960AAAAANLGD230306.1.
Supports any Adreno 2xx and 3xx GPU on Android 4.2 Jelly Bean MR1.
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Link
What you guys think?
sheffzor said:
Hello guys, today I just found that our device got the JB 4.2 GPU Adreno drivers updated.
Link
What you guys think?
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Its also updated for 4.1 Arm7
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so you mean,, if we flash this to cm10,, or any jb-based rom,, gaming as well GPU performance will be more fluid/smoother?
Hope the rest of the drivers will be updated too
hmmm
A chance of high risk i think?
i tried pushing it and it ended in bootloop
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hadidjapri said:
i tried pushing it and it ended in bootloop
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Which one? The one for 4.1?
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hadidjapri said:
i tried pushing it and it ended in bootloop
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You have specific drivers for JB 4.2 and 4.1.
Arco already included in his vendor repo, the proprietary drivers for adreno 4.1 in JB branch.
For those who are trying to port JB 4.2 (any variant, cm, etc.) to ancora, this new drivers will fit like a charm.
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I think that the 4.2 roms will be smooth as hell.
For now this doesn't works on 4.1 because it's a 4.2 driver.
For 4.1 we have a minimized\demo driver, this is a complete driver but only for 4.2.
I don't know if is possible to backport to 4.1 but if anyone would do it, it will be appreciated
cm10.1
Cm10.1 Build bluetooth,camera,wifi fix help me
driver dont working galaxy wonder
blackcat67 said:
Cm10.1 Build bluetooth,camera,wifi fix help me
driver dont working galaxy wonder
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As we know, JB 4.2 for GT-I8150 doesn't fixed for bluetooth,camera,wifi yet
If you don't mind, where you got CM10.1?
Can you share the link please
temenalie said:
As we know, JB 4.2 for GT-I8150 doesn't fixed for bluetooth,camera,wifi yet
If you don't mind, where you got CM10.1?
Can you share the link please
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There isn't a cm-10.1 yet.
The main propose of this thread is to inform SGW community that there's hope for cm-10.1 with a full refined adreno driver in our W.
BTW, Adreno 200 is GPU inside our W.
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sheffzor said:
There isn't a cm-10.1 yet.
The main propose of this thread is to inform SGW community that there's hope for cm-10.1 with a full refined adreno driver in our W.
BTW, Adreno 200 is GPU inside our W.
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I'm sorry, my bad. I know what your thread for
just respond the question above
cm10.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2139291
cm10.1 rootbox 4.2.1
blackcat67 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2139291
cm10.1 rootbox 4.2.1
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RootBox isn't CyanogenMOD.
But why our galaxy w didnt support cm10.1? Galaxy ace is already has cm10.1 eventhough it has lower spec than our w
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It's not that you guys don't have cm10.1. arco has been working on it for a really long time. but all your development work is depending on him. i mean,some advanced users and rom modders from the w community can also start to work with the source code and start to develop new roms based on 4.2. i am from the s plus community. from there you can see that cm9 was initially done by arco and ivendor later joined in. then cm10 was initially done by doom and then camcory and finally ivendor. now cm10.1 is almost finished and it was initially worked on by both xistance and camcory. now,doom has returned back again and has opened a new thread where he will be providing 3 builds a week for cm10.1 so users can stay upto date with cm changes as xistance does not update that frequently. another example being the pacman rom,when camcory decided to abandon it due to lack of time,krislibaeer started to work on it.
So,my bottomline is that arco is the spine for all the 3 devices,but he is also a human and has a life. so despite,waiting for it why not try to build something worthwhile like aokp or jellytime based on 4.2.2 and let arco release cm10.1,when he feels ready?
just my 2 cents
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Anomaly65 said:
It's not that you guys don't have cm10.1. arco has been working on it for a really long time. but all your development work is depending on him. i mean,some advanced users and rom modders from the w community can also start to work with the source code and start to develop new roms based on 4.2. i am from the s plus community. from there you can see that cm9 was initially done by arco and ivendor later joined in. then cm10 was initially done by doom and then camcory and finally ivendor. now cm10.1 is almost finished and it was initially worked on by both xistance and camcory. now,doom has returned back again and has opened a new thread where he will be providing 3 builds a week for cm10.1 so users can stay upto date with cm changes as xistance does not update that frequently. another example being the pacman rom,when camcory decided to abandon it due to lack of time,krislibaeer started to work on it.
So,my bottomline is that arco is the spine for all the 3 devices,but he is also a human and has a life. so despite,waiting for it why not try to build something worthwhile like aokp or jellytime based on 4.2.2 and let arco release cm10.1,when he feels ready?
just my 2 cents
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You just won XDA-Developers dude :thumbup:
I highly agree with your post.
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ive tried to flash in cwm (cm10.1, galaxy mini 2) but installation aborted
xfim said:
ive tried to flash in cwm (cm10.1, galaxy mini 2) but installation aborted
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Holy crap! You ask a problem about your Mini 2, in a wrong forum, in an old thread!
No, I wasn't sending this from my computer.

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