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No CM9 for Desire :(

As Cyanogen posted on twitter
" The Nexus One, along with the other first generation Snapdragon devices (devices with the QSD8x50, MSM7x25, MSM7x27 and MSM7x27T SoCs), will not be supported beyond the CM 7.x (Gingerbread) branch. "

Sad news. But I'm not suprised, I've had my Desire for almost 2,5 year now. It's just getting old. There are great alternatives however, I am so glad there are still some skilled developers trying to port all this stuff, and with succes

I take it you know about the BCM rom based on CM9 source code.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1403113
Sad no official CM9 though
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hans moleman said:
I take it you know about the BCM rom based on CM9 source code.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1403113
Sad no official CM9 though
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yes i know but haven't tried it yet, need an everyday rom so GB will have to do for now anyway i heard the battery is really poor on BCM

I used Sandvold's ICS ROM as a daily. Works great! I'm struggling to think of a bug that pisses me off.... erm.... video rec is choppy or it just crashes, as does panorama BUT they do work... tbh i dont care about that but i wanted to say something

mattyyey said:
I used Sandvold's ICS ROM as a daily. Works great! I'm struggling to think of a bug that pisses me off.... erm.... video rec is choppy or it just crashes, as does panorama BUT they do work... tbh i dont care about that but i wanted to say something
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i'm using sandvold's ics 0.16 as well, on stock hboot and it works smooth as gb roms.
Today bworks & dk_zero-cool released cm10 jellybean roms. bworks' rom look good gonna try it.

Nikez ICS is also runs very smoothly
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This can't be news. Didn't Cyanogen say when they first started on the CM9 that older devices would not be officially supported?

Why no fully functional ICS and Sense 4 when there is one for HTC Desire C

HI Guyz,
I am not a dev. So please pardon me if i am wrong. When i visited a mobile shop to get a new mobile for my cousin,
1. I saw HTC Explorer , which in configuration is wayyyyyyy below desire. But i was awestruck with the smoothness of it. The appdrawer, swiping between homescreens, widgets etc. but i cannot have the same smoothness even with the official sense 1.9 ? Why is that ?
2. I saw HTC Desire C which is based on 600 MHz Cortex-A5. WTF. ? It has ICS. I can sense that ICS will be very laggy in the handset but my question is how this weak chipset has fully functional ICS and Sense 4.0 ? I still feel HTC Desire is very powerful and capable enough to run ICS. !!
Thanks,
Karthik

I'm running nikez ICS and it is very smooth - does not have sense though.
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karthikus said:
HI Guyz,
I am not a dev. So please pardon me if i am wrong. When i visited a mobile shop to get a new mobile for my cousin,
1. I saw HTC Explorer , which in configuration is wayyyyyyy below desire. But i was awestruck with the smoothness of it. The appdrawer, swiping between homescreens, widgets etc. but i cannot have the same smoothness even with the official sense 1.9 ? Why is that ?
2. I saw HTC Desire C which is based on 600 MHz Cortex-A5. WTF. ? It has ICS. I can sense that ICS will be very laggy in the handset but my question is how this weak chipset has fully functional ICS and Sense 4.0 ? I still feel HTC Desire is very powerful and capable enough to run ICS. !!
Thanks,
Karthik
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You could try to download desire c rom, change all "desire c" string to "desire" and see if it works...
lol, it's not so simple to port a rom, it's a different architecture of chip, different screen resolution, different drivers... etc etc...
Like if you run a game on a quadcore with full resolution and the same on a pentium4 with 640x480.. do you understand a little?
I think that the progress in ICS and JB is fantastitc, so appreciate the dev's work and don't pretend too much.

paolo-red1 said:
You could try to download desire c rom, change all "desire c" string to "desire" and see if it works...
lol, it's not so simple to port a rom, it's a different architecture of chip, different screen resolution, different drivers... etc etc...
Like if you run a game on a quadcore with full resolution and the same on a pentium4 with 640x480.. do you understand a little?
I think that the progress in ICS and JB is fantastitc, so appreciate the dev's work and don't pretend too much.
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Thanks for your reply and please dont be obnoxious when you reply to someone. Its not that I doubt the devs. What i am trying to say is when a 600 mhz powered device can run ICS, why not ours (out of the box. just with minor tweaks) like transition from Froyo to GB. ?? I was totally upset to see ICS in Desire C rather than mine. I hope we will have fully functional ics/jb not without our excellent devs. !!

karthikus said:
Thanks for your reply and please dont be obnoxious when you reply to someone. Its not that I doubt the devs. What i am trying to say is when a 600 mhz powered device can run ICS, why not ours (out of the box. just with minor tweaks) like transition from Froyo to GB. ?? I was totally upset to see ICS in Desire C rather than mine. I hope we will have fully functional ics/jb not without our excellent devs. !!
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Ok, the fact is also that desire c has htc's drivers, our desire hwa was written from scratch by evervolv team, so it isn't an official released properly functioning.
It's correlated with the problem that cyanogenmod don't support it for cm9.

There are a few different ICS roms that work really well and smoothly for the Desire. BCM is based on CM9 but nikez rom and sandvolds rom are not. The only problem I have encountered is video playback issues which can be solved my using mx or rockplayer. Otherwise imo the desire ICS roms are quicker than GB. The devs have done a great job porting these to desire.
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There are a few different ICS roms that work really well and smoothly for the Desire. BCM is based on CM9 but nikez rom and sandvolds rom are not. The only problem I have encountered is video playback issues which can be solved my using mx or rockplayer. Otherwise imo the desire ICS roms are quicker than GB. The devs have done a great job porting these to desire.<br />
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Wait... I believe that who tried mildwild 4.3 can say that is quicker, faster (maybe not smoother) rom for desire. With the option of choosing where to put apk and data of each app (if in internal or ext) I can open frequently used app in a second, camera Miui app is perfect and it has no bugs. The only benefits that I saw in ICS was running heavy games with good frame rate (the same game is laggy in GB) and using 4.0+ apps. But so far I found ics and jb rom slower (repeat I mean opening apps and overall quickness). Btw the job by evervolv team and nikez is fantastic and I guess that JB development will go furrher and better than ics
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Well,I will go for ICS.I have observed better gameplay with it and better overall performance than gb
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munirshah77 said:
Well,I will go for ICS.I have observed better gameplay with it and better overall performance than gb
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Yes, I noticed that too. But if I want to play GTA 3 the buttons disappear after a few seconds! Ive the 1.1 version, maybe this cause the problem?

ulixess said:
Yes, I noticed that too. But if I want to play GTA 3 the buttons disappear after a few seconds! Ive the 1.1 version, maybe this cause the problem?
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Yes.ICS in not completely developed yet and lots of modications are being made and may be the ics version you are using is a bit buggy.that can be a possible reason
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does flash player work in ics yet?
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Since Shaky stop developing his Sense 4.0 ROM, this side of the HTC desire development has stopped. The ROM, though in alpha, was working brilliantly well. Everything was smooth, and there were many thing working. Why did shaky stop? That build has so much potential. I really hope that he is still developing his rom in secret, so that he makes a "surprise stable full version" release.

abaaaabbbb63 said:
Since Shaky stop developing his Sense 4.0 ROM, this side of the HTC desire development has stopped. The ROM, though in alpha, was working brilliantly well. Everything was smooth, and there were many thing working. Why did shaky stop? That build has so much potential. I really hope that he is still developing his rom in secret, so that he makes a "surprise stable full version" release.
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He had a very good reason to stop - impatient noobs who didn't care to read his OP or even consider his numerous attempts to control the thread. So now you can find all those people who pushed him to the edge and don't be shy clicking thanks button on their posts as a way to thank them for their hard work
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Most of the good devs move to one x.
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I didn't even notice that Shaky deleted his XDA account. I'm a bit worried about him. What happened?
So, if shaky stopped developing, does that mean that the Desire will never get a full version of the 4.0 Sense, even if it can run it very smoothly?
Begging the devs won't help...
I want this port so much that I'm willing to take Linux classes and to port it myself.

Sooo, is any developer kind and willing enough to continue shaky's work? I know this sounds like begging, but many Desire users really want the 4.0 Sense.
To prevent noobish spamming, like shaky had, devs could just release a full version when it's done.
Please XDA Devs, make our dreams come true.

abaaaabbbb63 said:
but many Desire users really want the 4.0 Sense.
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I want to no longer be a Desire user.
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erklat said:
I want to no longer be a Desire user.
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I didn't say that erklat alone wants Sense 4.0 on the Desire

erklat said:
I want to no longer be a Desire user.
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I hear you. I'll probably get a Nexus next time or the next flagship after One X. The intelligence level in this section got sucked out along with the good developers.

stankyou said:
I hear you. I'll probably get a Nexus next time or the next flagship after One X. The intelligence level in this section got sucked out along with the good developers.
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Thank you for being supportive. :|

Most stable, reliable 4.0+ Desire ROM for everyday business use.

Hi folks,
I've posted this request in another forum and was suggested MildWild 5.0 and then I went and installed Sandvold beta 18. It seemed fine and after a few hours of tweaking, had it set up exactly how I wanted it. Sent a text to someone, put the phone down and about 15 minutes later pick it up again and see it appeared to have formatted itself and was back on the very start screen when I first booted it to the phone with the "Tips" and everything! Also, the home button now doesn't do anything at all.
It looks cool and everything and has nice features, but I simply can't have a phone with such unpredictable behavior. Also installed it at the same time to my friends desire and he's having issues with it too.
I went to have a look at Mildwild 5.0 and the thread seems to have posters complaining of other problems too.
Is there any 4.0 ROM that is absolutely stable and simply just "works" with everything, gps, radio, no restarts or any unpredictable behavior.
I need the phone for business use so I'm not too pushed about having the absolute latest build, ICS is fine for example, I don't want JB if it's unstable. I just need a rom that works!
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

buy new phone with ics
on desire nikez rom is good,evriting except camera

Thanks for the reply I'd prefer no to buy a new phone, most of them are the larger screens nowadays and a desire is about as big as I want to have for work reasons (I do furniture removals so anything bigger would get in the way).
So it's really going to be about finding a proper ROM. Thanks for the suggestion of nikez, but I'd prefer to go with something where everything just works, no camera issues even, if possible.
Is CM9 available for the desire?

cormie said:
Thanks for the reply I'd prefer no to buy a new phone, most of them are the larger screens nowadays and a desire is about as big as I want to have for work reasons (I do furniture removals so anything bigger would get in the way).
So it's really going to be about finding a proper ROM. Thanks for the suggestion of nikez, but I'd prefer to go with something where everything just works, no camera issues even, if possible.
Is CM9 available for the desire?
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Spazedog . Is cm9
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gamesz2 said:
Spazedog . Is cm9
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Thanks, I had a look at the spazedog thread and it seems to be JB now and seems to have a lot of things not working and a few warnings so I don't think that will suit either

I don't think so.

sudkcoce said:
I don't think so.
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Damn, that's a pity. So it's looking like there's virtually no stable roms out there at all? I still have to try Mildwild but from reading the forum it appears to have problems too

cormie said:
Is there any 4.0 ROM that is absolutely stable and simply just "works" with everything, gps, radio, no restarts or any unpredictable behavior.
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Nope. You'll have better luck with Gingerbread at the moment.
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stankyou said:
Nope. You'll have better luck with Gingerbread at the moment.
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I just installed MildWild, it says it's Android version 2.3.7 in the "about phone". Is that gingerbread or froyo or honeycomb or ICS?

Mildwild 4.3, bugless and with the feature to decide where to put each app (internal or ext). If you want more space and no problem about app dimension I really suggest CM 7.2.0.1 stable themes xperia
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paolo-red1 said:
Mildwild 4.3, bugless and with the feature to decide where to put each app (internal or ext). If you want more space and no problem about app dimension I really suggest CM 7.2.0.1 stable themes xperia
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Thank you! So you'd suggest Mildwild 4.3 over 5.0? What about CM7.2.0.1? Which do you think of the 3 would be best? Maybe I'll try Mildwild 5.0 and see if it works

Now I am on CM7.2.0.1 from nloooo. It is a rom out of the box, ready to install many apps and with a fast launcher. It also has cyanogenmod theme support.
So I suggest you to try this.

Try Elk's CM10 release. It's working pretty good for me. Data doesn't always turn on when I check the box, but I haven't flashed the latest version yet either.

paolo-red1 said:
Now I am on CM7.2.0.1 from nloooo. It is a rom out of the box, ready to install many apps and with a fast launcher. It also has cyanogenmod theme support.
So I suggest you to try this.
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Is there any way you could link me to this version plesae? I don't know what the nlooo version is, but from seeing the cm7.2.0.1 on the cm website, it seems it also has a lot of bugs?
thraxage said:
Try Elk's CM10 release. It's working pretty good for me. Data doesn't always turn on when I check the box, but I haven't flashed the latest version yet either.
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Sorry that would be too much of a bug for me with data, which I rely heavily on for synching everything for business. Thanks for the suggestion. CM10, I guess that's Jellybean or ICS? Probably too unstable for desire?

Nlooooo version is the one in my signature...
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I use cm9 spazedog it works without bugs .. also my data is never turnt off
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cormie said:
I just installed MildWild, it says it's Android version 2.3.7 in the "about phone". Is that gingerbread or froyo or honeycomb or ICS?
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2.x is Gingerbread
3.x is Honeycomb
4.0 is ICS
4.1 is Jelly Bean
I suggest to stick with 1 of the GB ROM's.

Is there any stability advantages of the nloooo version over the regular 7.2, or is it just it has the experia theme? Hard to understand all the different options. And what about the spazedog, that's ICS, right?
I think I should probably stick with the gingerbread, which MildWild is running, so I think I'll give MildWild a chance as I heard good things about it and hope it doesn't cause me pain!

ICS and stable/reliable don't mix together.
So I'd politely ask for drool party to stop. Op stated his requirements and 4.0 doesn't fit in if you walked on your eyebrows.
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Thanks for the bluntness erklat, I guess I can forget about 4.0 and just concentrate on gingerbread. Hopefully I don't run into any bugs with mildwild, fingers crossed!

[Q] What's the point of using ICS/JB-based roms?

I can't figure it out so maybe someone will help me (using MIUI as example).
What exactly is the benefit of using JB-based MIUI over GB-based MIUI apart from the fact of having the newest thing on the block? I found only TWO minor things:
- good voice recognition of Android 4+ (I don't even know if MIUI has it built in)
- in MIUI JB you can have pattern screenlock as a single lock. There is no way of avoiding double screenlock on GB MIUI.
So is it really worth loosing HALF of the Quadrant score - I get ~950 points in JB MIUI and 1900 in GB MIUI (which I suppose means JB roms are two times slower than GB roms) and some extra space on data partition?

Did you seriously just write that.
impactor said:
So is it really worth loosing HALF of the Quadrant score - I get ~950 points in JB MIUI and 1900 in GB MIUI (which I suppose means JB roms are two times slower than GB roms) and some extra space on data partition?
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Everyone knows benchmarks are worthless in the grand scheme of things. Except for testing new high end phones (even then there not accurate enough.)
GB MIUI is probably a little faster but no were near 2 TIMES faster than JB MIUI.
Though MIUI in general was never that fast anyway
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In the grand scheme of things we could just use Nokias 3100 and our lives would not be much different.
There is a big difference in benchmark result between different roms on the same phone, so obviously it IS measuring something.
GB MIUI is also twice as fast as GB CM7 on my phone.

I'm running Spazedog ICS and i'm getting 2100pts
However, SPazedog is a very stable ROM

Sui77 said:
I'm running Spazedog ICS and i'm getting 2100pts
However, SPazedog is a very stable ROM
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I can give you more than that on a froyo rom. It still is a fake score.
- Swyped from my Galaxy Note 2

Aside form arguing whether benchmarks work:
A- Aesthetics, ICS is unbelievably beautiful :laugh:
B- All the launcher features, Keyboard mouse (if you do some scripting)
C- As mentioned voice recognition is great
D- Upgraded GApps
E- List goes on...its the little things that count
And yes, Spacedog rom for the bravo kicks a**

ICS/JB UI is smoother and more user-friendly. camera is better and faster. overall the experience is better (there are lots of improvements there and there that make things much easier and more enjoyable to use)

yeahman45 said:
ICS/JB UI is smoother
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Is it? On HTC Desire?
camera is better and faster.
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Is it? On HTC Desire ports? I read a lot about problems with video recording on JB ports.

yeahman45 said:
ICS/JB UI is smoother and more user-friendly. camera is better and faster. overall the experience is better
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In general, yes.
On the HTC Desire, no.

yeahman45 said:
camera is better and faster.
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I last time I checked camera was not working?
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Have you never tried a ICS or JB ROM? Just make a backup and flash one. There are really good smooth/stable ICS ROMs, and JB with butter is really tasty, though still some bugs. Not slow at all though. Give it a go.
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I think people need to redefine the words 'stable' and 'smooth' as well as 'fast' coz I didn't get those when using ICS or JB (with a tons of bugs that, I think, will not be solved anytime soon).

waterbox said:
Have you never tried a ICS or JB ROM? Just make a backup and flash one. There are really good smooth/stable ICS ROMs, and JB with butter is really tasty, though still some bugs. Not slow at all though. Give it a go.
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smooth, stable and butter? u sure?
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jmcclue said:
smooth, stable and butter? u sure?
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take a look here
I have always used GB rom and I was satisfied, I installed this for 10 days and it works very well.

ik8fpd said:
take a look here
I have always used GB rom and I was satisfied, I installed this for 10 days and it works very well.
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With the ROM you linked i had today like 6 random reboots under 10min's.
The only useable JB for me so far was Evervolv build.

jmcclue said:
smooth, stable and butter? u sure?
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i agree that all the JB roms on xda are not that really stable. But u must try Qiss me rom JB version. It is stable and i have been using it for 1 - 2 months now

[Q] Most Parent Friendly ROM

So my dad has been using his One V for almost a year now. Was stock and unrooted. Slowly it has got slower and slower. Its reached the point where I have to factory reset anyway.
Is there a custom ROM that is more stable and smooth than Stock 4.0.4 and yet gives good battery life? Features irrelevant.
Thanks.

cm9
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aatifsumar said:
So my dad has been using his One V for almost a year now. Was stock and unrooted. Slowly it has got slower and slower. Its reached the point where I have to factory reset anyway.
Is there a custom ROM that is more stable and smooth than Stock 4.0.4 and yet gives good battery life? Features irrelevant.
Thanks.
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MyONE RC9.5 gr8 battery but CM9 is also good

Try cm10/slimbean
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aatifsumar said:
So my dad has been using his One V for almost a year now. Was stock and unrooted. Slowly it has got slower and slower. Its reached the point where I have to factory reset anyway.
Is there a custom ROM that is more stable and smooth than Stock 4.0.4 and yet gives good battery life? Features irrelevant.
Thanks.
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MyOneV rc 9.5 fx+ by ckpv5 have been using this Rom since I rooted my phone
Have flashed other roms but nothing seemed more comfortable than this fr daily use...

^ I agree, sense is the best if you don't want to mess around. And that Rom is especially good

I'd recommend Evervolv rom, unless he plans on taking pictures, because camera is broken on it (No app I've tried works)

MameTozhio said:
I'd recommend Evervolv rom, unless he plans on taking pictures, because camera is broken on it (No app I've tried works)
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lol camera worx just try Camera MX
BTW, dont think ur dad can handle Evervolv
MYONERC9.5 FTW!

soham_sss said:
Try cm10/slimbean
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MameTozhio said:
I'd recommend Evervolv rom, unless he plans on taking pictures, because camera is broken on it (No app I've tried works)
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Both are not suitable for everyday work. At present, only CM9 stable, battery friendly and faster than Stockrom. :good:
Evervolv has but the chance to replace in the foreseeable future CM9. It is well on the way there.

cm10 IS suitable for everyday work, im using it, didnt find any bugs
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martijn99 said:
...., didnt find any bugs
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You use GPS with often toggle on/off and found no bug? Next Bug you found when show in Accuhistory. This two bugs have all CM10 roms.

yes cm10 has bugs
stop misguiding people!
RC9.5 is the best ROM for your dad to handle

i dont use any gps, so i didnt knew that it was a bug sorry
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Thanks for your suggestions you guys! Really appreciate it. Since he has used Sense 4 for a year already I am hesitant " c f c c of of to switch him to Cm9 and a learn a whole new way of using the phone.
Will go for the Sense based ROM.
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martijn99 said:
i dont use any gps, so i didnt knew that it was a bug sorry
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no prob m8

Myone 9.5. It is stable and excellent on battery life. Much faster than stock. This ROM was the ONLY thing that brought me back to sense!
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heross said:
Both are not suitable for everyday work. At present, only CM9 stable, battery friendly and faster than Stockrom. :good:
Evervolv has but the chance to replace in the foreseeable future CM9. It is well on the way there.
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I'm starting to agree with you know, I've been using Evervolv since about yesterday, and it's been a bit buggy for me now. I'm just hoping it gets more stable.
If you want a stable easy to use rom for your dad, I'd recommend CM9 as recommended by other users.

1ceb0x great work on Evervolv had made it stable now. Try it again with the new kernel.

Since CM10 is abonded I'd say the newest version of Evervolv is really, really great. Android 4.2.2, aosp. everything you want.
Just one "downside. default camera isnt working. Im using camera zoom fx for this and its a great application.
cheers