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i was wondering whether the custom roms are significantly different than the stock roms provided by google. is it really worth to flash custom roms or use stock jelly bean 4.1.1???
It's really up to you to decide whether they are worth flashing. if you are satisfied with what google provides with JB then they are not worth the effort otherwise if you want MORE like some extra performance, extra customization, features, themes then i should say they are well worth the effort.
Personally i love them even though i don't use all of them but still appreciate the work of every DEV. Think its great to have choice and that wouldn't have been possible without DEVS.
Currently Stock 4.1.1, looking forward to CM10.
ZaQX10 said:
It's really up to you to decide whether they are worth flashing. if you are satisfied with what google provides with JB then they are not worth the effort otherwise if you want MORE like some extra performance, extra customization, features, themes then i should say they are well worth the effort.
Personally i love them even though i don't use all of them but still appreciate the work of every DEV. Think its great to have choice and that wouldn't have been possible without DEVS.
Currently Stock 4.1.1, looking forward to CM10.
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if i root my stock ics, wont i get any official updates via ota??
You will still get ota updates as long as you don't switch ROMs
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This ROM >>> [ROM] [OTA] [GSM] [JB] JRO03C 4.1.1: Rooted & Busybox Deodexed Odexed (7/10/12) for me it's better than 4.1.1 Stock ROM from Google.
Stock ROM from Google drain much battery life of my Gnex.
mohaimed said:
if i root my stock ics, wont i get any official updates via ota??
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AFAIK to be able to install official OTA you need to be stock. If you are rooting the phone you are going to install some mods/tweaks obviously? In that case before trying to install OTA you need all files modified/ replaced by those mods/tweaks to be stock. You can use GNexToolKit (development section for link and detail) to achieve that. (not tried that myself but easiest i guess). Always be sure to backup your data.
mohaimed said:
i was wondering whether the custom roms are significantly different than the stock roms provided by google. is it really worth to flash custom roms or use stock jelly bean 4.1.1???
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100% personal choice. Some like it each way.
Hi!
What is better:
The official Samsung stock ROM or a custom ROM? And if second one, which? CM?
I ask this cause I heard that custom ROMs don't have that much support for the S-Pen. And no Multi-Window.
go for stock firmware. I was custom rom flash addict but after i got note2, i choose stock firmware+custom kernel
Me too. In the past devices i go for custom rom for it speed which varies alot from stock. But on the sgn2 i no longer need that as its fast as it is. I just keep to deodexed stock rom with mods which suits my needs.
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Mods are everything I need
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hayabusa08 said:
Me too. In the past devices i go for custom rom for it speed which varies alot from stock. But on the sgn2 i no longer need that as its fast as it is. I just keep to deodexed stock rom with mods which suits my needs.
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+1 for me.. Stock deodexed with a custom kernel to get faster charging etc, I see no need to overclock with a device this fast :good:
But don't forget to disable all the lame bloatware too.
Could you link me to that custom kernel?
Are there any downsides to the custom kernel? Faster charging sounds nice.
That heavily depends on what you want. If you like some of the Samsung-specific functionality like S-Pen, Quick Glance and so on, you want to stay stock or flash one of the nice and debloated custom ROMS based on stock. My favorite is HyperNote, but I think it doesn't meet all your requirements.
If you want it even faster and like the Cyanogen-specific style, try any of these ROMS (hint: HyperDroid).
But there is no "need" to make the stock faster, as with this kind of RAM and CPU power, everything will just work fine. Best to make a backup before flashing and just trying some ROMs on your own. Have fun
Just get a deodexed stock rom and you will have everything you need.
What devs do is change the roms and repack it for flashing.
And in my case half of them aren't exactly what I need or are useless.
You can apply all those mods to yours without any data loss
And it's fun :beer:
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hxc_pokecore said:
Could you link me to that custom kernel?
Are there any downsides to the custom kernel? Faster charging sounds nice.
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I've not experienced any downsides, plus it patches the Exynos bug. You are trusting someone other than Samsung to control the internals of your device, but Im happy with that. I do get a random reboots now and then, like once every couple of days but I suspect its unrelated, and I do like to tinker with my device. Phones these days are actually computers and do trip up every now and then.
I use the Perseus kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927852
I really would't worry about it. If you don't find it useful you can just flash the stock kernel back, no halm done.
Stock rom and kernel are good. The note 2 doesn't need a rom to be more fast or stable.
But for me is important choose the application that runs on my phone as system app. So I need root privileges.
Then I found some roms that had stock things without a lot of S.h.i.t. that samsung have to put into our device for marketing purposes.
And so now for me is better a custom rom because you know what there is and what is running on at least.
Should be in the question section.
Stock custom rom.
It's usually updated to the latest Samsung version, can be modded and has loads of tweaks
Hi i use omega v10 with redpill kernal and every thing works fine battery live is amazing and the rom still has all stock feutures
Yes I have searched, and yes I understand that my firmware version must match the kernel I'm trying to flash, but my question is unique, I have yet to find an answer.
Basically I want to flash a kernel that is kompatible with my current rooted stock ROM, so I kan keep all my data, but utilize some of the CPU tweaking governors and I/O kontrollers that other kernels use.
If the kernel says TouchWiz, does that make it kompatible with my stock ROM?
I don't need any new features or a kolor make over from flashing a new ROM, but I would like better battery life and maybe more kontrol over my CPU speed and voltage.
Also, is GB REALLY the way to go for battery life? How would I go about keeping all my kurrent data, but moving to a GB ROM or kernel?
Thank you for your tyme in this matter.
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Yes I have searched, and yes I understand that my firmware version must match the kernel I'm trying to flash, but my question is unique, I have yet to find an answer.
Basically I want to flash a kernel that is kompatible with my current rooted stock ROM, so I kan keep all my data, but utilize some of the CPU tweaking governors and I/O kontrollers that other kernels use.
If the kernel says TouchWiz, does that make it kompatible with my stock ROM?
I don't need any new features or a kolor make over from flashing a new ROM, but I would like better battery life and maybe more kontrol over my CPU speed and voltage.
Also, is GB REALLY the way to go for battery life? How would I go about keeping all my kurrent data, but moving to a GB ROM or kernel?
Thank you for your tyme in this matter.
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TouchWiz kernels, will work with with stock as far as i know. check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1284 for info on different types of kernels. Some of the installs allow you to keep data as well. And from what i hear GB is the way to go on this phone, best battery life and best overall user experience on this phone. Ive never ran GB on it, but have come across alot of threads where people are praising GB over ICS and JB for this phone.
mindstate said:
TouchWiz kernels, will work with with stock as far as i know. check this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1284 for info on different types of kernels. Some of the installs allow you to keep data as well. And from what i hear GB is the way to go on this phone, best battery life and best overall user experience on this phone. Ive never ran GB on it, but have come across alot of threads where people are praising GB over ICS and JB for this phone.
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If I'm kurrently on STOCK ROM, with AGAT recovery, is it possible to just flash over to a GB Kernel or ROM? and keep data? I'm really just looking for a solution to keep all my apps+data and have either a Kernel or ROM that improves battery life. (I enjoy klipping my Otter Box Defender and walking around with Pandora playing.)
I've also read about backing up apps with Titanium or a similar program, flashing to a new ROM, then restoring the apps+data, is that something that would work in this situation? Again, I apologize if this question has been asked and answered before, but I feel like my situation is unique in the sense of keeping my data, and not really needing the extra bells and whistles of a new ROM.
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Yes I have searched, and yes I understand that my firmware version must match the kernel I'm trying to flash, but my question is unique, I have yet to find an answer.
Basically I want to flash a kernel that is kompatible with my current rooted stock ROM, so I kan keep all my data, but utilize some of the CPU tweaking governors and I/O kontrollers that other kernels use.
If the kernel says TouchWiz, does that make it kompatible with my stock ROM?
I don't need any new features or a kolor make over from flashing a new ROM, but I would like better battery life and maybe more kontrol over my CPU speed and voltage.
Also, is GB REALLY the way to go for battery life? How would I go about keeping all my kurrent data, but moving to a GB ROM or kernel?
Thank you for your tyme in this matter.
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Just because a kernel says TouchWiz it does not mean it is compatible with any TouchWiz rom. The kernel should be one that is made for the specific Android version of the rom.
There are aosp Jelly Bean roms now that have battery life that is comparable to GB. Baked Blackbean by sniper, Magical Unicorn by ktempleton, and Wild For The Night by dastin 1015 are excellent roms. Also MotoBlur'd Jelly Bean by bilgerryan which is based on Wild For The Night is excellent.
I have tried the stock JB roms and always come back to the aosp roms. They are so much smoother.
Do not try do use a GB kernel on an ICS or JB rom.
I always use Titanium Backup to restore apps and app data after doing a clean rom installation. Do not restore system data with Titanium Backup, only app data.
Just follow the installation instructions for the rom you want to install and you shouldn't have any trouble.
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jaxon01 said:
Just because a kernel says TouchWiz it does not mean it is compatible with any TouchWiz rom. The kernel should be one that is made for the specific Android version of the rom.
There are aosp Jelly Bean roms now that have battery life that is comparable to GB. Baked Blackbean by sniper, Magical Unicorn by ktempleton, and Wild For The Night by dastin 1015 are excellent roms. Also MotoBlur'd Jelly Bean by bilgerryan which is based on Wild For The Night is excellent.
I have tried the stock JB roms and always come back to the aosp roms. They are so much smoother.
Do not try do use a GB kernel on an ICS or JB rom.
I always use Titanium Backup to restore apps and app data after doing a clean rom installation. Do not restore system data with Titanium Backup, only app data.
Just follow the installation instructions for the rom you want to install and you shouldn't have any trouble.
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Well, I'll look around at some JB AOSP ROMs but might try a GB rom to see the difference. Another quick question, will my Titanium App Backups work when moving from ICS to GB?
Yes. Except apps that don't support gb. Like chrome.
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KingUniverse the only way to safely keep data/app data between kernel flashes is when staying within the same type of kernel, ex.ics to ics JB to JB, when you go cross build like ics to JB or JB to Gb your data will make a mess of your phone. App data can be forgiving at times but sometimes it can create all kinds of issues.
Best example is the one clicks, they always caution about using "no data" (keeps your data) only if coming from same build type (Ics to Ics JB to JB) so you dont bork.
Pp. :thumbup::beer:
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Recently i got the AT&T SAMSUNG GALAXY S3 I747 STOCK JELLY BEAN ON 4.1.1 from GALASXY S2 SKYROCKET (at&t) also but i need the best combo (kernel+ROM) but its hard to find one
here is what am looking for:-
- good, stable DATA/MOBILE NETWORK CONNECTION (MUST HAVE) IMPORTANT
- bloatware free
- fast/overclocking
- easy/not too complex that will fup my phone
- anything that i have not mentioned is relevant too
- other great features like Bravia engine, goo manager, extra features that make it more awsome
- cyanogenmod stable qualities (bug free) sleek, smooth, fast UI and transitions
any kind of idea is valid, open to every suggestion
If you are looking for a touchwiz ROM, go try S3Rx. If you are looking for a pure android based ROM, go for Task's AOKP. I think those are some of if not the best Roms of their kind.
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That's for you to experiment and decide not everyone has the same experience on a rom.
Just make a backup of your current setup and start flashing away.
Trial and error.
I may be new here but I know enough, To tell you no one is going to answer your question. A Rom that works for one person is not necessarily the same Rom that will work for another. Flashing Rom's is about hopefully stability, if your lucky speed and battery life, but most importantly about customization. I just started flashing Roms and am still looking for the one I want. I'm sure as soon as I find it a new release will come out and I will get to start over again. As for Kernels I am not comfortable enough to delve into that yet...Good luck...
winosxbuntu said:
Recently i got the AT&T SAMSUNG GALAXY S3 I747 STOCK JELLY BEAN ON 4.1.1 from GALASXY S2 SKYROCKET (at&t) also but i need the best combo (kernel+ROM) but its hard to find one
here is what am looking for:-
- good, stable DATA/MOBILE NETWORK CONNECTION (MUST HAVE) IMPORTANT
- bloatware free
- fast/overclocking
- easy/not too complex that will fup my phone
- anything that i have not mentioned is relevant too
- other great features like Bravia engine, goo manager, extra features that make it more awsome
- cyanogenmod stable qualities (bug free) sleek, smooth, fast UI and transitions
any kind of idea is valid, open to every suggestion
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Best S3, non touchwiz ROM I have found is SlimBean. Not as flashy as some but rock solid/stable with the best battery life I have found so far. Like CM, it is backed by team of devs versus some roms that just have chefs that mix/match/blend features together.
i have been on that PATH as in trying different ROMS but once i tried several i completely fup my DATA/mobile network, i would text and call but my internet (not to be confused with WIFI) stopped working and yu know as a tech savvy guy yu gotta try everything little trick yu know to fix it but there was nothing
forced to use wifi until the day i bought the AT&T S3 and i have my data internet connection working again
i need a ROM that doesnt leave me with no DATA CONNECTION
restoring from nandroid backups helps and sometimes it might not work , other than CM which other ROMS THAT CAN KEEP UP WITH MY DATA CONNECTION
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I may be new here but I know enough, To tell you no one is going to answer your question. A Rom that works for one person is not necessarily the same Rom that will work for another. Flashing Rom's is about hopefully stability, if your lucky speed and battery life, but most importantly about customization. I just started flashing Roms and am still looking for the one I want. I'm sure as soon as I find it a new release will come out and I will get to start over again. As for Kernels I am not comfortable enough to delve into that yet...Good luck...
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Thanks I think I found what I was lookin for and am currently running Synergy Rom 4.1.2 with Ziggy Kernel using ATT Galaxy S3 it's stable, fast great battery life so am keeping it .........
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winosxbuntu said:
Thanks I think I found what I was lookin for and am currently running Synergy Rom 4.1.2 with Ziggy Kernel using ATT Galaxy S3 it's stable, fast great battery life so am keeping it .........
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Glad to here it. I have not been brave enough to get into kernel flashing yet. Can you tell me was it a simple flash? How do you revert back to a stock kernel? I here there is a lot of tweaking to do with some kernels? Was Ziggy's pre-set?
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Glad to here it. I have not been brave enough to get into kernel flashing yet. Can you tell me was it a simple flash? How do you revert back to a stock kernel? I here there is a lot of tweaking to do with some kernels? Was Ziggy's pre-set?
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You just flash it the same way you do with a ROM. Remember you wipe cache and dalvik cache before flashing the kernel and if you dirty flash roms, you have to reflash the kernel each time because the stock kernel overwrites it. You revert back to stock kernel by flashing the ROM again or finding the kernel zip and flashing it separately. You can undervolt and overclock with a different kernel that allows it.
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Detmobilized 1.5/Ktoonsez kernel=awesome sauce!!
I am coming from the Note 2 and on that phone I used RWilcos Mostly Stock ROM which is basically just the stock ROM with small tweaks, root, bloatware removed etc.
It did not have any bugs that effected the functionality which I've seen with other ROMs (CM etc).
Does anyone have a recommendation for a 100% functional stable ROM almost that won't remove all the great Note features but still have the added features and performance, battery life , root etc of the custom ROMs?
Thanks for any help.
frankx85 said:
I am coming from the Note 2 and on that phone I used RWilcos Mostly Stock ROM which is basically just the stock ROM with small tweaks, root, bloatware removed etc.
It did not have any bugs that effected the functionality which I've seen with other ROMs (CM etc).
Does anyone have a recommendation for a 100% functional stable ROM almost that won't remove all the great Note features but still have the added features and performance, battery life , root etc of the custom ROMs?
Thanks for any help.
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First of all, is the phone new and already updated to stock 5.1.1?
If so you have a locked bootloader (but still have options) .
If you have 5.0.1 or older version your in luck.
Go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2956667
Best of the best by @tx_dbs_tx.
CM and ports require more attention whether it be developer, user or both.
Stock-like TW narrows it down for you. IMO, the two most active and capable developers in TW for Sprint Note 4 are tx_dbs_tx and freeza. They both have released very stock and also modified ROMs. Then there's OBAR that got a lot testing and users as well to make sure the bugs were squashed; still has support and also user community support.
If you don't want to get into kernel tweaking but want something with default and optimization out of the box- better than stock, consider freeza's Beastmode kernel or the newer Rage kernel that is integrated in Note 4our ROM (Don't be put off by the beta; it's stable but more customization is expected). Otherwise, take your pick and run the included kernel or choose another custom Android 5.1.1 kernel like AEL or Emotion for Sprint Note 4.
Personally, I prefer freeza's kernel. I've posted some battery stats in freeza's Beastmode kernel and Note 4our ROM threads.
I couldn't narrow it any further than this. You'd have to decide yourself or try as many as you like to make a definitive decision. Lots of choices and opinions vary; that's a good thing.
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jhill110 said:
First of all, is the phone new and already updated to stock 5.1.1?
If so you have a locked bootloader (but still have options) .
If you have 5.0.1 or older version your in luck.
Go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2956667
Best of the best by @tx_dbs_tx.
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Yes it's new and running 5.1 already.
samep said:
Personally, I prefer freeza's kernel. I've posted some battery stats in freeza's Beastmode kernel and Note 4our ROM threads.
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Which one of freeza's kernels gives better battery? Have you compared them to AEL? I'm using AEL 6.2,and while it has decent battery, it lags a bit.
beezar said:
Which one of freeza's kernels gives better battery? Have you compared them to AEL? I'm using AEL 6.2,and while it has decent battery, it lags a bit.
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IMO, they're equal on battery.
Rage may be slightly better on multitasking but there's extra scripts in play with the integrated ROM.
No lag but I've ran freeza kernels since Beastmode because they're close to stock with no setup to tweak.
Prior to that, I preferred stock kernel but thanks to Samsung, can't run it with root anymore. No recent compare to AEL or Emotion.
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