Develop Bugs

[Request] allow original poster to close his own thread and delete double posts...NOW

Please allow posters to close their own threads and delete double posts. It's ridiculous not to have this feature!!!
What is so harmful about us closing our own threads?
I think it is beneficial, for example:
1) OP feels harassed: closes thread
2) OP learns that there was already another, more prominent thread of the same issue: closes thread
3) OP wants too closes his upcoming software update but doesn't want to read other's post issues that he has fixed on the next version.
etc...
Why can't we close our own threads? Delete our own posts?
For ***sakes look at these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4120834#post4120834
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=535393&highlight=deleted
If you aren't going to implement this then atleast tell us why in the world we can't delete our posts!
Here is my previous thread posted at the wrong forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=535157

After reading Mike´s post it is clear that the best and easyest way is to click on the red button asking an experienced Mod to do the action, otherwise it can be a democratic chaos...
Just my opinion.

mikechannon said:
It sounds obvious that you should be able to delete your own posts. However, it can cause chaos! Once you create a thread you do not own it, particularly if other users have contributed posts to the thread.
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I agree, Just because you posted a thread, doesn't mean it's your thread. This is a community with no personal ownership of posts or threads.
mikechannon said:
Deleting the first post in a thread deletes the whole thread. This could be a long running thread with many posts and pages. To allow this thread to suddenly vanish because the OP deletes the first post can upset many contributing users.
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Mike Speaks from Experience here.
mikechannon said:
However, it's relatively easy to have the odd post removed by clicking on the report post (red triangle) that appears on all posts. All you need do is say something like "please delete my double post" or "delete my post it's in the wrong forum" etc etc
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Once again I reinforce Mike's statement. The Mods are here to assist you, please make use of our services.
mikechannon said:
There are also a couple of other fiddly reasons why it's best for a Mod to delete posts - one is that a Mod can also move the post to Trash. You may not know that deleted posts are still visible to Mods and leaving them kicking around forums makes things look very messy to Mods even if other users see a nice tidy board. Another reason not to allow user delete is that a very few users could use this to cover up "provocative posting" or just to cause trouble with other members. (You can imagine for example, that a ROM thread suddenly disappearing because the cook is bored with it could lead to lots of frustration amongst users and extra work for Admin and Mods.)
Just use the report icon or contact a Mod - quick and easy
Mike
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Just basically report to mods is the summation here.

Got a question about deleting a post:
Once a post is deleted, then all posts after it in the same thread will be changed a post#. E.g, if post#2 is deleted, then post#3 became #2, #4 become #3 etc. But if the original post#3 is cross-linked to another thread using the 'view single post' function. In such a case, will the cross-link url address be updated accordingly?

The link will be to the deleted post, no re-shuffle will occur.
The URL is showpost.php and p=4153097 ("p" is the post number, not the thread number, that will be "t").
Here is one I deleted from this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4153097&postcount=6
As a moderator, I can see deleted posts. Try that URL above
Dave

In the above case, seems you deleted the whole thread.This is the url you pointed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4153097&postcount=6,
And I can not access these:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4153097&postcount=5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4153097&postcount=7
My question is for example in this thread we are talking in,
if you deleted this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4121794&postcount=3.
But I already crosslinked this post (next one to the deleted) with this url: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4132664&postcount=4.
So my above url will become this post, is that right?
BTW, sometimes I can see the contents of deleted post from a google search result.
Edit: Ok, seems I got it, you said no re-shuffle. That means if #3 deleted, , #5 is still #5, so there is no influance on crosslink address of posts. Thanks.

[Q] can't post in dev section

i have more than 800 posts, and i can't post my ROM port in the dev section, why is that? when i press submit the thread disappears.
please help.

I think the forums were having issues. When I could refresh, the posts wouldn't show the most recent post. I had posted around 830am, but the thread showed last post as 645am. ( I don't know the exact time, just guessing).
I just refreshed and they updated now. Might have just been a hiccup. Try again.

it's fixed now
please note that the double post in the dev section is due to this xda server bug.
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Unable to Post in threads other than General

I've noticed through my tapatalk application I am only able to post in the General Threads but not development threads. Its odd that I can start a new post within general but am unable to reply or ask questions in both the development threads on all posts.
Can anyone assist me with this? I've tried searching for an answer to mo avail so... please help.
@jthrift
Sent from a rocket ship called earth.

jthrift said:
I've noticed through my tapatalk application I am only able to post in the General Threads but not development threads. Its odd that I can start a new post within general but am unable to reply or ask questions in both the development threads on all posts.
Can anyone assist me with this? I've tried searching for an answer to mo avail so... please help.
@jthrift
Sent from a rocket ship called earth.
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You don't have enough posts to post anywhere else. It's a rule to prevent n00bs from creating threads in the dev section that cause devs to lose their minds and k0nane to post the nyancat song until a mod shuts the thread down.

Haha, alright then. I see. I normally just go with the flow, but today I had some input about a rom and no dice. All is well now though. I think that this post put me over the counter and allowed me to reply within a thread in dev.
Thanks for the ultra speedy reply.
Sent from a rocket ship called earth.

How to create a 2nd post in a thread as 'standalone' not appended as an 'edit' ?

In an existing thread, I'd like to make two separate posts, using 'advanced editor', adding two separate, topical titles.
When I add the second post, immediately after the first, it gets appended to the prior post as an edit instead of posting as a new post. So it ends up under an unrelated comment, with a misleading title.
How do you force the second post to be standalone?

n756gkj said:
In an existing thread, I'd like to make two separate posts, using 'advanced editor', adding two separate, topical titles.
When I add the second post, immediately after the first, it gets appended to the prior post as an edit instead of posting as a new post. So it ends up under an unrelated comment, with a misleading title.
How do you force the second post to be standalone?
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One way would be to ask a mod. We can add a second individual post for you

n756gkj said:
In an existing thread, I'd like to make two separate posts, using 'advanced editor', adding two separate, topical titles.
When I add the second post, immediately after the first, it gets appended to the prior post as an edit instead of posting as a new post. So it ends up under an unrelated comment, with a misleading title.
How do you force the second post to be standalone?
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Also, this happens because you're posting fast, give it a minute or so before posting your second post.

n756gkj said:
In an existing thread, I'd like to make two separate posts, using 'advanced editor', adding two separate, topical titles.
When I add the second post, immediately after the first, it gets appended to the prior post as an edit instead of posting as a new post. So it ends up under an unrelated comment, with a misleading title.
How do you force the second post to be standalone?
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I would also be highly interested in how that's done - beside asking a moderator. That seems a waste of their time and very tedious.
Waiting a few minutes didn't do the trick on my end.

linux.user said:
I would also be highly interested in how that's done - beside asking a moderator. That seems a waste of their time and very tedious.
Waiting a few minutes didn't do the trick on my end.
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Wait more than a few minutes then. There's a time after which a new post will be created, as opposed to appending the previous post, I can't recall the period.
But mods are happy to help with tasks like this. They only take 60 seconds.

linux.user said:
I would also be highly interested in how that's done - beside asking a moderator. That seems a waste of their time and very tedious.
Waiting a few minutes didn't do the trick on my end.
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Try opening advanced reply options then post
Sent from my Motorola XT1080 using XDA Labs

the_scotsman said:
Wait more than a few minutes then. There's a time after which a new post will be created, as opposed to appending the previous post, I can't recall the period.
But mods are happy to help with tasks like this. They only take 60 seconds.
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Many thanks!
I tried it again a few hours later and then it worked.
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Try opening advanced reply options then post
Sent from my Motorola XT1080 using XDA Labs
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Yep, that's what I did, also to use a different title to reflect the different topic. Title will get lost and post just added to the last one - if the time between posting is not long enough. As pointed out in my other reply, a few hours later it worked.

consecutive posts merged

When I reply to two posts in a thread, my posts are merged into one entry. I thought it was based on the amount of time between my posts. I see no warning while composing the second post that this will happen. In particular, "PREVIEW POST" does not show this.
I'm sure I have seen consecutive posts by one person, *not* combined into one post, with timestamps that differ by much less than the difference in timestamps of two of my posts that *were* merged.
Is there some setting I need to use to keep posts separate?

When two posts by one person are replying to different posts in one thread, it is *not* helpful to merge those posts. The target of the second reply is less likely to notice that he received a reply to his post. A reply to the combined post will probably quote *both* replies contained in the combined post, making it harder to tell to which part the third-order post is replying.

IronTechmonkey said:
[Disclaimer]I did nothing to split the last three responses into separate posts, and in fact was intending for them to be in one post. XDA Labs app just posted them that way.
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I thought the merging was done by the server, and would be independent of whether the posting was done using an app or a browser.
Maybe your reputation entitles you to post without being merged.
Do you have the patience to make two posts here using a browser?

J.Michael said:
I thought the merging was done by the server, and would be independent of whether the posting was done using an app or a browser.
Maybe your reputation entitles you to post without being merged.
Do you have the patience to make two posts here using a browser?
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Since within a few weeks XDA will be switching a new app and back-end and (probably also web UI) I would not spend much time troubleshooting the outgoing system but I can share what I've learned in the past.
- Timer: yes, the one hour was what I used to follow when waiting to make a separate post.
- There are some odd little differences between the way merging is handled by Labs app an browser. Timestamps for merged posts in Labs use UMT-0 whereas in browser the stamp corrected for region is used but this does not seem to affect the trigger for when to merge or not merge.
- There have been ways to force a new post which I have occasionally used to seperate a serious bug report or an OT rant from the normal thread discussion.
- As to RC title I don't know of any exception for that but it could be possible.Whatever it is, it is not absolute because there are more times that the posts would be merged than not.
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Having previously posted from a web browser I could not resist seeing what happens with merge now posting a new reply in XDA Labs app.
[EDIT] Interesting. It automatically threaded them. Anyhow it seems that the landscape of this queation has gotten messier perhaps as the XDA maintainers complete the move to the new resources and the old resources to deteriorate so I'm going to put a pin in the map here in case this comes up again in the new interface.

Hi @J.Michael,
I think you should read this old thread (only 2 pages): https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1341333
It will give you some clues why this feature was implemented in the past on XDA.
Prior to my research today, what I had in mind was that it was there for anti-spam purpose, to avoid:
- multiple posts easily and quickly made by a new member trying to increase their post count and then be able to post advertising links, other malicious stuff (info: you can't post links or add attachments when you are below 10 posts)
- members who are just trying to increase their numbers for no reason.
Hence if there is less posts, it is also less work for reporters and then moderators.
In the thread I've linked, you will see that it seems there were other reasons to implement this, like reducing resource usage for instance.
Also this feature is disabled for moderators and admins FYI due to our moderation and maintenance duties.