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[Request] allow original poster to close his own thread and delete double posts...NOW

Please allow posters to close their own threads and delete double posts. It's ridiculous not to have this feature!!!
What is so harmful about us closing our own threads?
I think it is beneficial, for example:
1) OP feels harassed: closes thread
2) OP learns that there was already another, more prominent thread of the same issue: closes thread
3) OP wants too closes his upcoming software update but doesn't want to read other's post issues that he has fixed on the next version.
etc...
Why can't we close our own threads? Delete our own posts?
For ***sakes look at these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4120834#post4120834
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=535393&highlight=deleted
If you aren't going to implement this then atleast tell us why in the world we can't delete our posts!
Here is my previous thread posted at the wrong forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=535157

After reading Mike´s post it is clear that the best and easyest way is to click on the red button asking an experienced Mod to do the action, otherwise it can be a democratic chaos...
Just my opinion.

mikechannon said:
It sounds obvious that you should be able to delete your own posts. However, it can cause chaos! Once you create a thread you do not own it, particularly if other users have contributed posts to the thread.
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I agree, Just because you posted a thread, doesn't mean it's your thread. This is a community with no personal ownership of posts or threads.
mikechannon said:
Deleting the first post in a thread deletes the whole thread. This could be a long running thread with many posts and pages. To allow this thread to suddenly vanish because the OP deletes the first post can upset many contributing users.
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Mike Speaks from Experience here.
mikechannon said:
However, it's relatively easy to have the odd post removed by clicking on the report post (red triangle) that appears on all posts. All you need do is say something like "please delete my double post" or "delete my post it's in the wrong forum" etc etc
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Once again I reinforce Mike's statement. The Mods are here to assist you, please make use of our services.
mikechannon said:
There are also a couple of other fiddly reasons why it's best for a Mod to delete posts - one is that a Mod can also move the post to Trash. You may not know that deleted posts are still visible to Mods and leaving them kicking around forums makes things look very messy to Mods even if other users see a nice tidy board. Another reason not to allow user delete is that a very few users could use this to cover up "provocative posting" or just to cause trouble with other members. (You can imagine for example, that a ROM thread suddenly disappearing because the cook is bored with it could lead to lots of frustration amongst users and extra work for Admin and Mods.)
Just use the report icon or contact a Mod - quick and easy
Mike
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Just basically report to mods is the summation here.

Got a question about deleting a post:
Once a post is deleted, then all posts after it in the same thread will be changed a post#. E.g, if post#2 is deleted, then post#3 became #2, #4 become #3 etc. But if the original post#3 is cross-linked to another thread using the 'view single post' function. In such a case, will the cross-link url address be updated accordingly?

The link will be to the deleted post, no re-shuffle will occur.
The URL is showpost.php and p=4153097 ("p" is the post number, not the thread number, that will be "t").
Here is one I deleted from this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4153097&postcount=6
As a moderator, I can see deleted posts. Try that URL above
Dave

In the above case, seems you deleted the whole thread.This is the url you pointed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4153097&postcount=6,
And I can not access these:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4153097&postcount=5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4153097&postcount=7
My question is for example in this thread we are talking in,
if you deleted this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4121794&postcount=3.
But I already crosslinked this post (next one to the deleted) with this url: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4132664&postcount=4.
So my above url will become this post, is that right?
BTW, sometimes I can see the contents of deleted post from a google search result.
Edit: Ok, seems I got it, you said no re-shuffle. That means if #3 deleted, , #5 is still #5, so there is no influance on crosslink address of posts. Thanks.

Can we get popup notification when someone quotes your post

XDA the wonderful forum it is, but it has gone too big. Not that i'm complaining, but you're post seems to be lost many times because 100 other people posted after you especially in hot threads or ROM releases. So if you quoted someone or someone quotes you many times you skip it, or have to do a painful searches spanning 10's of pages...
Slickdeals.net (another big forum like XDA) has a wonderful system, that whenever someone quotes you're post you get a pop-up next time you log in with a link which takes you straight to the reply. I was wondering if such a system is possible here also?
Regards

BUMP
This feature would be really nice to have!

I like to idea, but I think it depends on the forum system. As I remember XDA uses vBulettin, you should check if it's possible to do this and if so you could ask one of the admins to set it. So to answer your question it's possible, but the admins won't change the source of the forum to do this.
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I like this idea too. It might be too resource-intensive (we never want to add a feature that slows down the site). I'll ping our server admin to see if this would be possible.

I am really missing this type of feature!
Specifically, I know many other vBulletin forums that have a /whoquotedme.php page - it shows a list of the latest posts in which you were quoted. It greatly helps in discovering who's trying to communicate with you, answer a question you might've had, or ask one of you [without specifically sending a pm].
I believe something like http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=255285
I think it checks every post to see if there is a user id present when there is a quote in the post, and then associates a link to that post with the user who was quoted.
I haven't specifically heard of it being a resource hog, but then again I am not a vBulletin admin

ivolol said:
I am really missing this type of feature!
Specifically, I know many other vBulletin forums that have a /whoquotedme.php page - it shows a list of the latest posts in which you were quoted. It greatly helps in discovering who's trying to communicate with you, answer a question you might've had, or ask one of you [without specifically sending a pm].
I believe something like http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=255285
I think it checks every post to see if there is a user id present when there is a quote in the post, and then associates a link to that post with the user who was quoted.
I haven't specifically heard of it being a resource hog, but then again I am not a vBulletin admin
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I know of a similar addon for the correct version of vBulletin that does something like this...

pulser_g2 said:
I know of a similar addon for the correct version of vBulletin that does something like this...
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So why not post / install it?

ivolol said:
So why not post / install it?
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Discussed it with other mods, but we don't think it is needed at this time.

pulser_g2 said:
Discussed it with other mods, but we don't think it is needed at this time.
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Wow really, is it because is it too resource intensive? Slickdeals, is also hosted on vBulletin platform..
Sorry for the late reply and digging this thread up but ironically, I forgot to keep track of this thread

Mafioso said:
Wow really, is it because is it too resource intensive? Slickdeals, is also hosted on vBulletin platform..
Sorry for the late reply and digging this thread up but ironically, I forgot to keep track of this thread
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Yes, it was determined to be very resource intensive, for a site with 4 million users, as every post would have to be checked as it was made, to see if it mentioned someone...

pulser_g2 said:
Yes, it was determined to be very resource intensive, for a site with 4 million users, as every post would have to be checked as it was made, to see if it mentioned someone...
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how about allowing users to jump to their last posts in a thread?
having to search for your own post in a thread, especially a popular ROM thread for example, is a very annoying...

vis80k said:
how about allowing users to jump to their last posts in a thread?
having to search for your own post in a thread, especially a popular ROM thread for example, is a very annoying...
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Agree, nice idea. coul be also nice to have a better implementation of the actual search in a topic... Right now it is a bit confusing

That would be cool, but I'd be happy if notifications worked at all. Mine quit working two updates ago and haven't worked since.

PieceKeepr said:
That would be cool, but I'd be happy if notifications worked at all. Mine quit working two updates ago and haven't worked since.
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Are you referring to notifications to new replies on subscribed threads or new PMs? Those are definitely working. If your having an issue with that, we can certainly help you get to the bottom of why your not receiving yours.

When I want to go back to recent conversations I was involved in I use the "Find all posts by" link.
Click on your user name at the top right, select Statistics and there's the link - "Find all posts by your username". I've bookmarked this for easy access.
That way, if I've taken part in a conversation then I can carry on where I left off. If I don't want to see what people responded with then I obviously don't care, and that's up to me to choose. It's the easiest way to keep track of what you were involved in.

svetius said:
Are you referring to notifications to new replies on subscribed threads or new PMs? Those are definitely working. If your having an issue with that, we can certainly help you get to the bottom of why your not receiving yours.
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Hmmm. Well I just upgraded to a new phone yesterday so let me see if they work on the new one or not. I didn't turn them on assuming it was broken. I had an Eris and a lot of Eris users were complaining that the notifications had quit. I'll let you know.
Thanks

My notifications definitely are not working. I wiped all app caches, uninstalled the xda app, wiped data/dalvik cache and cache/dalvik cache and rebooted twice. I then reinstalled xda app, logged in and set preferences. Still no notifications and I have no idea why. Email and text messages work.
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all very good suggestions!

I hope they find a way to realize that.
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Yes, it was determined to be very resource intensive, for a site with 4 million users, as every post would have to be checked as it was made, to see if it mentioned someone...
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If you think of it like that way, it is...
However at slickdeals I think its implemented like whenever someone quote's, a notification is being sent to the ID whose post was quoted...that notification later pops up at bottom when that user logs on, similar to PM dialog which pops, you don't make an actual search in the post that if mentioned someone, so not that resource intensive I feel

[idea/request]

Many people on the forums keep close watch on certain ROM's for their phones here on XDA. It would be awesome if there were a way to subscribe ONLY to the first post of a particular thread so that if it is edited/updated you would be notified through e-mail. I'm not talking about subscribing to a thread because you'd be getting tons of unwanted e-mail and notifications, just the first post of the thread. Many developers edit the first post of a thread with new links when they release a new version of their ROM/APP/THEME.
This would let you know immediately when your favorite ROM has had an update posted.
I know, this is a great idea.

Agreed. There is a problem though. Some cooks have designated upto 5 posts for notes on their roms, not only the first.

That's true. Though it seems a majority update the first page in some manor. If we had this functionality they may make a point of doing so.

I have an idea that I believe is doable within the abilities of VB, but it will take a little bit of work to implement.
Create a sticky LOCKED post in the forum. Allow a subset of users that can modify locked post (or if it is possible, just that SINGLE locked post).
So, the first post in that thread would be a link to all of the various mods. Each time a mod is updated, one of the select people make a post on that locked thread saying:
"Mod XYZ has been updates to version a.b.c... Follow the link in post 1 to get the latest version!"
That way you can subscribe to that thread and you will just be notified when one of the very select, few people post. I realize that this is less than ideal, since you may be notified of ROM updates that you don't use, but this would work within the capabilities of VB.

Milkman00 said:
I have an idea that I believe is doable within the abilities of VB, but it will take a little bit of work to implement.
Create a sticky LOCKED post in the forum. Allow a subset of users that can modify locked post (or if it is possible, just that SINGLE locked post).
So, the first post in that thread would be a link to all of the various mods. Each time a mod is updated, one of the select people make a post on that locked thread saying:
"Mod XYZ has been updates to version a.b.c... Follow the link in post 1 to get the latest version!"
That way you can subscribe to that thread and you will just be notified when one of the very select, few people post. I realize that this is less than ideal, since you may be notified of ROM updates that you don't use, but this would work within the capabilities of VB.
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Users cannot post in closed threads That's the biggest issue there tbh. Does give me an idea I will raise.

pulser_g2 said:
Users cannot post in closed threads That's the biggest issue there tbh. Does give me an idea I will raise.
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Sweet. I hope you can come up with something.

DeeODoubleD said:
Many people on the forums keep close watch on certain ROM's for their phones here on XDA. It would be awesome if there were a way to subscribe ONLY to the first post of a particular thread so that if it is edited/updated you would be notified through e-mail. I'm not talking about subscribing to a thread because you'd be getting tons of unwanted e-mail and notifications, just the first post of the thread. Many developers edit the first post of a thread with new links when they release a new version of their ROM/APP/THEME.
This would let you know immediately when your favorite ROM has had an update posted.
I know, this is a great idea.
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It is unlikely this will be done by xda until the bulletin board system they are using supports it (hence why proper RSS Feed monitoring has not been put in for individual threads).
However...
You can do this using a external page monitor such as http://www.changedetection.com
Simply point it to the post you want to monitor and it'll email you or update an rss feed with an update to alert you to the change.
Ok you need to set it up manually, but it's a solution.

[Suggestion] Thread wiki

It is possible to add a "thread wiki" post below the original post?
Eg in slickdeals, you have a common wiki below the OP that people can add stuff
I feel like threads should have things like that...
OP might not have time to update his/her post with relevant info that an another user can add
It might be difficult trying to look through 100 pages of posts to figure out if someone has a similar problem(or through search), while it is easy for multiple people to maintain a common wiki that they can all edit
EG: http://slickdeals.net/f/4803408-Thi...ted-by-users-like-you?p=51265310#edit51265310

paperWastage said:
It is possible to add a "thread wiki" post below the original post?
Eg in slickdeals, you have a common wiki below the OP that people can add stuff
I feel like threads should have things like that...
OP might not have time to update his/her post with relevant info that an another user can add
It might be difficult trying to look through 100 pages of posts to figure out if someone has a similar problem(or through search), while it is easy for multiple people to maintain a common wiki that they can all edit
EG: http://slickdeals.net/f/4803408-Thi...ted-by-users-like-you?p=51265310#edit51265310
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Interesting idea, not sure how adaptable it would be with the VBulletin software though. It might also be similar in effect to something I hear is going to be rolled out sometime soon, a post rating system so posts with more positive ratings will move to the top, and posts with enough negative ratings will be hidden.
I think though that the OP should either ask the mods to close the thread or hand it over to another user by contacting the forum admin if they don't have time to maintain their thread with important new information.

mf2112 said:
Interesting idea, not sure how adaptable it would be with the VBulletin software though. It might also be similar in effect to something I hear is going to be rolled out sometime soon, a post rating system so posts with more positive ratings will move to the top, and posts with enough negative ratings will be hidden.
I think though that the OP should either ask the mods to close the thread or hand it over to another user by contacting the forum admin if they don't have time to maintain their thread with important new information.
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I mean small details: like "most commonly encountered problems and solutions", that the OP might have time to add or not
For a dev thread, I rather have the dev (most likely the OP) focus on developing and other people helping out in figuring out problems by common users... users can update the wiki on the un-resolved problems so that the dev can see, without having the dev to read the last 3 pages that were newly posted
you can see in the Slickdeals thread... 179 pages of posts... some of them are "useless" in saying "thanks for the deal", while some people have legitimate questions (like "is this phone quad band") that other users answered 10 pages after their post... having a wiki means common info will be presented clearly without having to dig through the thread, and anyone can update that, not just the OP <--- most important point
EDIT: Slickdeals uses vBulletin too, but customized plugins... there are probably open source plugins out there, just trying to dig through
EDIT2: i guess SD doesn't use pure vBulletin plugins for that... maybe some CMS system

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I mean small details: like "most commonly encountered problems and solutions", that the OP might have time to add or not
For a dev thread, I rather have the dev (most likely the OP) focus on developing and other people helping out in figuring out problems by common users... users can update the wiki on the un-resolved problems so that the dev can see, without having the dev to read the last 3 pages that were newly posted
you can see in the Slickdeals thread... 179 pages of posts... some of them are "useless" in saying "thanks for the deal", while some people have legitimate questions (like "is this phone quad band") that other users answered 10 pages after their post... having a wiki means common info will be presented clearly without having to dig through the thread, and anyone can update that, not just the OP <--- most important point
EDIT: Slickdeals uses vBulletin too, but customized plugins... there are probably open source plugins out there, just trying to dig through
EDIT2: i guess SD doesn't use pure vBulletin plugins for that... maybe some CMS system
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I guess the problem really is that the dev thread should not be used for support, but people insist on treating them that way. I think that there should be a "ROM XXXXX Support Thread" in the device Q&A forums and that is where such questions should go instead. Then there would be no problems with the restrictions since user support questions or bug reports without proper logging, details, attempted fixes, etc. would be moved from the dev thread into the support thread if they were able to post them there.

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I guess the problem really is that the dev thread should not be used for support, but people insist on treating them that way. I think that there should be a "ROM XXXXX Support Thread" in the device Q&A forums and that is where such questions should go instead. Then there would be no problems with the restrictions since user support questions or bug reports without proper logging, details, attempted fixes, etc. would be moved from the dev thread into the support thread if they were able to post them there.
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even in support threads... who would maintain the massive throve of info that many people would ask? the OP(most likely the dev himself who made the thread), or every user who wants to?
example.... if a lot of people post below us, makes it go into 5 pages... someone on page 3 found a plugin that does what it works.... does it make sense for that info to be posted just below my first post by anyone, or is it on me(the OP) to edit my first post "someone on page 3 found this info"?

This is actually an interesting idea. We are busy adding other new features but definitely will keep this in mind. Right now, we do already have a wiki and there is nothing stopping someone from creating a wiki page while adding their thread, and linking to it, but it would be nice to integrate that directly into the page.

bitpushr said:
This is actually an interesting idea. We are busy adding other new features but definitely will keep this in mind. Right now, we do already have a wiki and there is nothing stopping someone from creating a wiki page while adding their thread, and linking to it, but it would be nice to integrate that directly into the page.
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yeah, but it's definitely not as seamless as having it right below the original post
lemme see if there are any plugins to "stream" that wiki page into a post...

Came here to request this too. And precisely for the same reasons as the OP.
This would be immediately embraced.
I don't understand the "I'm not sure this would be adaptable with vBulletin" comment since slickdeals uses vBulletin.
http://www.qapla.com/mods/showthread.php/309-Wiki-Posts-for-VB4-by-BOP5-BETA

another vote for this.
i have been following a thread about about the development of 4.4 for the hisense sero 7 pro (randomblame, davepmer and others are awesome)
anyway it has a post count of nearly 1,000 and people come in and try the latest build, or just wanting to ask a question about the latest builds. the same questions get asked over and over. i don't really think its the fault of the person asking since who is going to read 1,000 posts just to see if his/her problem has been discussed.

How to create a 2nd post in a thread as 'standalone' not appended as an 'edit' ?

In an existing thread, I'd like to make two separate posts, using 'advanced editor', adding two separate, topical titles.
When I add the second post, immediately after the first, it gets appended to the prior post as an edit instead of posting as a new post. So it ends up under an unrelated comment, with a misleading title.
How do you force the second post to be standalone?

n756gkj said:
In an existing thread, I'd like to make two separate posts, using 'advanced editor', adding two separate, topical titles.
When I add the second post, immediately after the first, it gets appended to the prior post as an edit instead of posting as a new post. So it ends up under an unrelated comment, with a misleading title.
How do you force the second post to be standalone?
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One way would be to ask a mod. We can add a second individual post for you

n756gkj said:
In an existing thread, I'd like to make two separate posts, using 'advanced editor', adding two separate, topical titles.
When I add the second post, immediately after the first, it gets appended to the prior post as an edit instead of posting as a new post. So it ends up under an unrelated comment, with a misleading title.
How do you force the second post to be standalone?
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Also, this happens because you're posting fast, give it a minute or so before posting your second post.

n756gkj said:
In an existing thread, I'd like to make two separate posts, using 'advanced editor', adding two separate, topical titles.
When I add the second post, immediately after the first, it gets appended to the prior post as an edit instead of posting as a new post. So it ends up under an unrelated comment, with a misleading title.
How do you force the second post to be standalone?
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I would also be highly interested in how that's done - beside asking a moderator. That seems a waste of their time and very tedious.
Waiting a few minutes didn't do the trick on my end.

linux.user said:
I would also be highly interested in how that's done - beside asking a moderator. That seems a waste of their time and very tedious.
Waiting a few minutes didn't do the trick on my end.
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Wait more than a few minutes then. There's a time after which a new post will be created, as opposed to appending the previous post, I can't recall the period.
But mods are happy to help with tasks like this. They only take 60 seconds.

linux.user said:
I would also be highly interested in how that's done - beside asking a moderator. That seems a waste of their time and very tedious.
Waiting a few minutes didn't do the trick on my end.
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Try opening advanced reply options then post
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Wait more than a few minutes then. There's a time after which a new post will be created, as opposed to appending the previous post, I can't recall the period.
But mods are happy to help with tasks like this. They only take 60 seconds.
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Many thanks!
I tried it again a few hours later and then it worked.
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Try opening advanced reply options then post
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Yep, that's what I did, also to use a different title to reflect the different topic. Title will get lost and post just added to the last one - if the time between posting is not long enough. As pointed out in my other reply, a few hours later it worked.