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[Q] Defective Microphone- Have had Nitro Since Launch, Now I am Not So Sure

Alright, this is very disconcerting, my faith in LG may be gone.
PREFACE:
I have had this phone since launch and have been on this forum since the day it was started. I have rooted, debloated, and changed launchers. I have no dislike for LG, so please do not call me a hater or a fanboy.
PROBLEM:
Starting a couple of days ago, during calls the person on the other end would only hear static and clicking. I finished the conversation through text. I called somebody else the next day and it worked fine. Today, I was talking to someone for about ten minutes then the static happened and I had to finish the conversation in text. Since the person I was talking to is a close family member I troubleshooted and kept calling them, and then a phone of one of one of my roommate's so that I could hear the problem first-hand. It sounds HORRIBLE. Since then I have used a voice recording app to test the problem.
TROUBLESHOOTING:
I have done the following to determine that this is indeed a hardware problem:
-Turned off all data
-Unlocked ALL "debloated" apps
-Restarted many times
-Put only the original battery in(I have two spare official batteries)
And the problem persists.
QUESTIONS:
-What should I expect will happen with the return/exchange process?
-My original battery has the pink water damage thing turned pink. This phone has never touched water, I think it happened because I have kept the battery in my wallet, which probably has gotten sweat on it. Will LG try to be a **** about this?
-Should I unroot and otherwise restore this phone to stock? If so, how do I do this?
-Is there anything else I should know?
-I need a phone to use, if I cut my SIM card to fit into my old iPhone 4, how will I get it back in?
Thank you, and if there is a possibility I could just return it I may. I LOVE this phone, but I have never had a microphone defect in any other phone I have ever owned. I am starting to wonder how such a large company like LG can allow something like this to happen, rightly so, I am very unsure of the longetivity and overall "completeness" of this phone.

The only other quick and easy thing I would suggest to narrow down the issue would be to try a wired or bluetooth headset.
It's pretty easy to find micro SIM adapters for sale online for 1 or 2 dollars.

I feel like I have some comforting responses to many of your concerns.
First of all, you should have a 1 year manufacturer's warranty against hardware defects. You should be covered.
They will most likely look for the water damage indicator on the battery, but if they are all official batteries then the store clerk won't know the difference. If it says LG on it then you're probably fine.
I saw an "unroot" option in SuperOneClick, but I cannot verify that it's functional for the Nitro. Yesterday was my first root ever. I would find a way to unroot it to be honest. Then do a hard reset and take it in.
As for the SIM going back to the iphone 4, it can be done. I just pulled my SIM and snapped a couple of pics to show you how to cut it and still use it. I didn't cut it myself, it was done by an ebay seller that reactivated my Unlimited Data plan and mailed me the card. He thought I had an iphone 4 so he cut it. I then told him I didn't have the iphone 4 so he set it back in and sent the whole card. It's worked in several phones since then.
I say if you love the Nitro then don't worry. AT&T should honor the manufacturer's 1 year warranty. I've never dealt with it so I don't know how they'll handle it, but they should take care of you.

Just a heads up, the battery is supposed to have pink + signs on it. When those bleed and the sticker is just an ugly mess of pink blotches, that's when it touched water. Not sure what yours looks like but I figured there may be a chance you are seeing the pink + signs and thinking you are screwed.

gte460z said:
Just a heads up, the battery is supposed to have pink + signs on it. When those bleed and the sticker is just an ugly mess of pink blotches, that's when it touched water. Not sure what yours looks like but I figured there may be a chance you are seeing the pink + signs and thinking you are screwed.
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Thank you, what I was seeing was indeed the little pink crosses.
@gmkelly - thanks for the tip, I tried it out and my wired mic does work.
After unplugging the mic, I set it aside and when I checked again, the nitro's mic was working. I made a call and halfway through the issue started up again. Since then, I have replicated the issue multiple times using the recording app. The mic will work, and then usually stops working again after a few minutes of it being on, usually about 3.5 minutes. Thus the problem is intermittent, and I can replicate the problem for an AT&T rep.
What I really need to know is what to do about it being rooted.
EDIT: Dammit, I am having trouble replicating the problem now. Is there a chance that something in the headphone port is causing this. Ahh, I have a program to write for a C++ class and this is not a good time for this to be happening. Been recording now for 10 minutes and the mic is still working fine.
EDIT 2: Does anyone think showing a recording of the static to an AT&T rep be enough evidence? If anyone wants to hear some static you can get an earful here.

red_solo_cup said:
Alright, this is very disconcerting, my faith in LG may be gone.
PREFACE:
I have had this phone since launch and have been on this forum since the day it was started. I have rooted, debloated, and changed launchers. I have no dislike for LG, so please do not call me a hater or a fanboy.
PROBLEM:
Starting a couple of days ago, during calls the person on the other end would only hear static and clicking. I finished the conversation through text. I called somebody else the next day and it worked fine. Today, I was talking to someone for about ten minutes then the static happened and I had to finish the conversation in text. Since the person I was talking to is a close family member I troubleshooted and kept calling them, and then a phone of one of one of my roommate's so that I could hear the problem first-hand. It sounds HORRIBLE. Since then I have used a voice recording app to test the problem.
TROUBLESHOOTING:
I have done the following to determine that this is indeed a hardware problem:
-Turned off all data
-Unlocked ALL "debloated" apps
-Restarted many times
-Put only the original battery in(I have two spare official batteries)
And the problem persists.
QUESTIONS:
-What should I expect will happen with the return/exchange process?
-My original battery has the pink water damage thing turned pink. This phone has never touched water, I think it happened because I have kept the battery in my wallet, which probably has gotten sweat on it. Will LG try to be a **** about this?
-Should I unroot and otherwise restore this phone to stock? If so, how do I do this?
-Is there anything else I should know?
-I need a phone to use, if I cut my SIM card to fit into my old iPhone 4, how will I get it back in?
Thank you, and if there is a possibility I could just return it I may. I LOVE this phone, but I have never had a microphone defect in any other phone I have ever owned. I am starting to wonder how such a large company like LG can allow something like this to happen, rightly so, I am very unsure of the longetivity and overall "completeness" of this phone.
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gte460z said:
Just a heads up, the battery is supposed to have pink + signs on it. When those bleed and the sticker is just an ugly mess of pink blotches, that's when it touched water. Not sure what yours looks like but I figured there may be a chance you are seeing the pink + signs and thinking you are screwed.
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Oh btw, I recalled something an AT&T rep asked me when I was sending back the Atrix for an RMA. He didn't ask me to check the battery for water damage by looking at the pink crosses, he asked me to look for a white dot on the phone itself. The same white dot is on this phone. U can see it right above the middle screw to the right of the SD embossed sign. That white dot will change color (I forgot what color he said, maybe pink too) if the phone is water damaged.
I think nowadays the battery moisture indicator does not really apply anymore. At my job, we have tons of BB batteries that has indicators showing moisture damage but works perfectly fine. It's most likely just because the batteries get warm n moisture can build up by it.

Ok I'm sort of confused. Is this only happening with something plugged into the 3.5mm headphone jack, or are you referring to the actual built in mic on the bottom of the phone?

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EDIT 2: Does anyone think showing a recording of the static to an AT&T rep be enough evidence? If anyone wants to hear some static you can get an earful [URL="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/16882142/AUD0001.3gp" said:
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OUCH!! I forgot to turned down the speakers n i got a bad shock!
anywho, do u have an at&t authorized repair/warranty center by where u live/work? I say bring your phone n recording over to them n show it to them, let them hear it n explain this happens sporadically. If u want, tell them u can call their phone there n let it sit for 10 minutes or so until it happens again. But just make sure it can be recreated in their presence though. Otherwise u should just call 611 (or is it 511...411?? ) talk with them n wait till it happens over the phone lol!

Ha, just figured out the "multi-quote" system.
AllstarE4 said:
Ok I'm sort of confused. Is this only happening with something plugged into the 3.5mm headphone jack, or are you referring to the actual built in mic on the bottom of the phone?
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The mic in question is the Nitro's built in microphone.
aquariuz23 said:
OUCH!! I forgot to turned down the speakers n i got a bad shock!
anywho, do u have an at&t authorized repair/warranty center by where u live/work? I say bring your phone n recording over to them n show it to them, let them hear it n explain this happens sporadically. If u want, tell them u can call their phone there n let it sit for 10 minutes or so until it happens again. But just make sure it can be recreated in their presence though. Otherwise u should just call 611 (or is it 511...411?? ) talk with them n wait till it happens over the phone lol!
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Thanks, the Chicago Warranty center is a couple blocks from my work. It looks like I may be able to get "same-day, face-to-face warranty and technical support." This certainly is good news. And thanks for the info about the water damage indicator, white gold!
I guess my main concerns now are backing up and unrooting.
-I guess I will have to purchase titanium backup and go that route. Anything special I should know about backing up?
-As far as unrooting goes, I think I can recall seeing some post about it on this forum, I will have to go hunting. Are there any known successful methods?
EDIT: according to this thread, [email protected] says he has unrooted it. Thanks again for the help guys, I am starting to think this won't be such a PITA afterall.

Easiest way to unroot is to download superoneclick 2.3.3 and click the unroot button with usb debugging enabled on the phone. I have done it several times without fail.

Which method did you use to root it? I know in the SuperOneClick program there is an "Unroot" button.

use malninion's unbricking solution to unroot your phone and restore it to factory if you are concerned about a root getting in the way of an exchange and are unable to deroot. also, all exchanges of this phone under warranty are for refurbished units, LG policy.

Refurbs are fine if they still hold the 1 year warranty. Do you know the details?

if you are asking me, do I know the details of what?

scott0 said:
if you are asking me, do I know the details of what?
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Sorry, yes. Do you know the details of factory warranty on a refurbished phone?

AllstarE4 said:
Sorry, yes. Do you know the details of factory warranty on a refurbished phone?
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The LG rep and the ATT rep I spoke with yesterday said the refurbs are better and they carry full warranty. I *thought* I heard the LG rep say our phone has a 6 month warranty, new or refurbed but it very well could be 1 year. Both reps said all refurbished phones are tested v. 10% of new phones are tested. Not sure how that makes a refurb better but that's all the details I was given re: the exchange policy.
Also, I went through the troubleshooting of mine on the phone with ATT, that agent issued a return authorization that I could have used locally by just bringing the phone in and getting a replacement. I got the impression that there would be no on-site attempt to fix my phone, just a visual inspection of the glass, case and water damage marks.
I was able to fix my phone so I didn't have to go through with it all.

Maybe it's 6 months on a new one. I think I heard 1 year, but I guess I'm not positive on that.

It does not matter which method you used to root your phone (doomlord or superoneclick), superoneclick can unroot the phone fine without restoring the phone via Mal's guide. I use doomlord to root and superoneclick to unroot on my phone.

red_solo_cup said:
Ha, just figured out the "multi-quote" system.
The mic in question is the Nitro's built in microphone.
Thanks, the Chicago Warranty center is a couple blocks from my work. It looks like I may be able to get "same-day, face-to-face warranty and technical support." This certainly is good news. And thanks for the info about the water damage indicator, white gold!
I guess my main concerns now are backing up and unrooting.
-I guess I will have to purchase titanium backup and go that route. Anything special I should know about backing up?
-As far as unrooting goes, I think I can recall seeing some post about it on this forum, I will have to go hunting. Are there any known successful methods?
EDIT: according to this thread, [email protected] says he has unrooted it. Thanks again for the help guys, I am starting to think this won't be such a PITA afterall.
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Or, you can simply remove the super user icon from the app drawer and they won't even know the phone was ever rooted (unless they go into applications and search for it, which I HIGHLY doubt they will even bother). About backing up, how many apps do you have on your phone? Does it really matter if u have to reinstall them again? If it does, then get TiBu free edition n manually accept every reinstallation process.
As for contacts, sync them all to your gmail acc, n your emails should already be synced anyways. For sms/mms, get go sms pro (free) and it has the feature to backup your sms/mms to the phone which u can then back up to your computer.
Don't bother with restoring to factory settings, just hand the phone to them, removing any icons of apps that might indicate you are rooted.

gte460z said:
It does not matter which method you used to root your phone (doomlord or superoneclick), superoneclick can unroot the phone fine without restoring the phone via Mal's guide. I use doomlord to root and superoneclick to unroot on my phone.
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but a reflash = more fun times!

[Q] Android Stock 4.3 Microphone Issues during calls

Hello All,
First off, hardware: I9250, stock ROM build 4.3 Build JWR66Y, not rooted, but bootloader is unlocked (CWM might be on there, it's been a while).
I noticed a few weeks ago after upgrading to 4.3 that I can no longer make phone calls without resorting to Bluetooth or Speakerphone (speaker ok, people can't hear me on the other end. I tried calling another phone I have (old N1) and I have to literally yell into the little hole at the bottom to start hearing anything in the N1). I have seen this problem being discussed with other phones (mainly N4) but not much on the GN.
Tried using an app called SoundAbout to disable wired headset detection, no go.
Tried booting into SafeMode, no change. I thought maybe using Volume+ might be incompatible with the OS upgrade or something.
1) Is anyone else having this problems? Supposedly this was a problem on 4.2.2 which got fixed on 4.3 for N4 users....
2) Anything else I can try before trying to downgrade to see if it fixes the problem? Factory wipe is something that I want to avoid like the plague.
3) Is there a way to test the hardware? Before I try and buy a microphone assembly?
Thanks in advance!

Bump

I have the same issue. After a nasty drop and some rain, I had to replace the screen. Now it works wonderfully except the earpiece during calls emits a lot of static and I can barely hear the other end, and they can't hear me.
Strangely though, with a headset or while on speakerphone, both directions are perfectly clear. I'm betting someting in the motherboard (i.e. audip processing circuit) is fried, because I've already tried replacing the earpiece.
Anyways, hope you find your issue, and let us know. Otherwise you'll have to stick to speaker or grab a new phone.
Sprint GNEX

Yes, I can rule out physical damage from falls, as I am anal about keeping my phone pristine. I haven't dropped it, and its protected by a good case in case there was some unknown shock.
I find it hard to believe nobody has ever come across this problem, even if not on a GNex. I'm just biased against any product made from LG (huge history of poor build quality outside of asia), and I'm pretty adamant about having a Nexus phone, I'm going to have to wait until Nexus 6 and hope that it doesn't go to LG yet again since motorola is eneligible for Nexus award (go HTC! the N1 was awesome).

Bad Interferences while call

Hello,
from time to time, persons i'm calling tell me, that they hear really bad interence sounds. They sound like when you bring your phone near to loudspeakers. I can't hear this problems, the call is absolut clear on my side.
When I'm in the car and the phone changes to GSM/Edge, i can hear it over the car-speakers. So i think the problem depends on the GSM-Network.
Is there someone with the same problems? Did someone solved it? Does HTC know this issues?
Thanks for response,
Bond

Some here...
Same with my phone, really loud inteferences on the other side, sometimes louder than my voice. Depends also, how the phone is located in the room. While walking, the noise appears / disappears. Does this have something to do with the three build-in mics to improve the voice quality?
Android: 5.1
Firmware: 2.10.206.2

Im still dealing with this problem. And i couldn't find the absolutly right solution for it.
I bought my phone at amazon.de so i contacted them. They sent it to regenersis to repair it. Regenersis changed the following parts:
36H01982-00M - zam. 36H01936-04M; Speaker, AAC ELECTRONICS, DMSP0815D-J-01-FB
72H09061-00M - EMI Gasket, LCM FPC gasket combine absorber
74H02837-00M - zam. 74H02837-01M, Cover Pre-Assy, Plastic, CIR, Generic Color, Generic Process
The Process needed about one week incl. transfer with DHL and UPS. But after all for nothing. The problem was still there. During this week a read that sometimes this problem is produced from the SIMcard. To check this out you should "cross-change" your simcard with another one maybe from your friend. I didn't done this i just called my provider and he sent me a new card.
The problem is still there in my phone.
Another problem is, i would have to pay for a new nanoSIM. So my old SIM and the new free change SIM are a microSIM i had to cut.
I've contacted Amazon again, i will get a new device on monday. If the problem is still there on the new device i bite the bullet and pay for a native nanoSIM. And after that i have no plan.
If you can read german language... They deal with the same problem on the One M9. I've also wrote down my story there http://www.android-hilfe.de/thema/stoergeraeusche-beim-telefonieren.697510/page-2
Good Luck

After reading the thread on android-hilfe I would say chances are high that cutting your microSIM is the problem. If I were you I would try to use a "real" nanoSIM. I never experienced such problems and I'm using a "real" nanoSIM since I bought the M9.

Sorry, but using the wrong SIM causing interferences is completely nonsense. Looks more like HTC has some shielding problems with the M9.

@blackswan, i would aggree with you. There are no technical connections i could imagine. But i've read about from different sides, not just from people in forums who are oracleing about.
From my part i've got the new device from amazon. It seems the problem has been solved. The "old" One M9 was from Taiwan, the new one is from Hsinchu. Unfortunately the display of the new one is with a hint of green. I hope i can get used to it during the time. Everything else works well.

After two weeks of absence, I received my HTC back from service. What should I say? They change the speaker of my phone!!! Needless to say that the interferences still remain.
Sent again with 4 picture to explain the problem. Hopefully someone there will understand. If this try fails again, I will reverse the purchase!

I have had the same problem intermittently when connected to bluetooth in the car. Really bad feedback on the other end that i cant hear at all.
My carrier is o2uk and it happens on any band.
I wish I stole my HTC M9.

Hopefully someone can help

I'm really hoping that someone can come up with a solution to this problem. Back in September, my mother purchased a s6 edge+ under the At&t Next plan. Everything worked fine until November, when calls started dropping and people were saying that either they couldn't hear my mother or she couldn't hear them. There's also a lot of static when making calls.
The first thing we did was take the phone in to an AT&T store for repairs and they figured it was an issue with her sim card. After replacing the sim card, the problem went away, but eventually came back. Going back to the store a second time, a representative suggested taking it to tech support. We did and they couldn't do anything except get a warranty replacement. However, when the replacement came, it had the same issue.
Now my mother is practically ready to rip some heads because basically, no matter who higher up she talks to, they're saying that the only thing they can do is keep sending replacements. There's a complete refusal to offer a different type of phone or any other kind of help at all.
My question is does anyone know what the problem is and how to fix it? If not, is there any other route she can take or is she stuck paying for a phone that is defective?

This is what I would do...
Well, the only thing you can do that I know of is to try and sell it like it is or for parts.
Be honest in the description but be satisfied with the income because its actually pretty high.
1. remove all personal info including all synced accounts to the phone
1a. Make sure you take the sim too
2. soft reset
3. hard reset
4. clear the cache on the device
5. reboot to make sure everything runs smoothly
buy a new phone.
That's what i'd do. Not a XDA expert. Maybe if you hold onto it for a few months a solution will come up.

toledodj said:
I'm really hoping that someone can come up with a solution to this problem. Back in September, my mother purchased a s6 edge+ under the At&t Next plan. Everything worked fine until November, when calls started dropping and people were saying that either they couldn't hear my mother or she couldn't hear them. There's also a lot of static when making calls.
The first thing we did was take the phone in to an AT&T store for repairs and they figured it was an issue with her sim card. After replacing the sim card, the problem went away, but eventually came back. Going back to the store a second time, a representative suggested taking it to tech support. We did and they couldn't do anything except get a warranty replacement. However, when the replacement came, it had the same issue.
Now my mother is practically ready to rip some heads because basically, no matter who higher up she talks to, they're saying that the only thing they can do is keep sending replacements. There's a complete refusal to offer a different type of phone or any other kind of help at all.
My question is does anyone know what the problem is and how to fix it? If not, is there any other route she can take or is she stuck paying for a phone that is defective?
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There issue could either be, A - service where she is at is lacking for the phone, and/or it is how she's holding the phone; holding near the bottom by the base of the phone, it does cause interference with talking on it when using. Try having her holding near the middle to avoid call interruptions or even using a headphones for calling. Reason for holding it differently is because the antennas of our phones are located on the bottom, hence holding the bottom of the phone will cause call interruptions. Furthermore, the only thing that AT&T can do is offer a replacement.
I hope this helps you and good luck. ??

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There issue could either be, A - service where she is at is lacking for the phone, and/or it is how she's holding the phone; holding near the bottom by the base of the phone, it does cause interference with talking on it when using. Try having her holding near the middle to avoid call interruptions or even using a headphones for calling. Reason for holding it differently is because the antennas of our phones are located on the bottom, hence holding the bottom of the phone will cause call interruptions. Furthermore, the only thing that AT&T can do is offer a replacement.
I hope this helps you and good luck. ??
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For the most part, she uses a Bluetooth headset. I also use at&t and call quality is fine for my Nexus 6p

Yes, but she has a 6 E+ correct? As I said, the antenna of the phone is located on the bottom and thus holding the bottom WILL cause call quality to be little to none leading to dropped calls. It sucks so I use a headset to avoid that and/or I hold it differently. That is the only thing 'bad' about it.
Yes, yes, comparing 'other' phones isn't going to help to justify call quality; it's redundant. I gave the two best options to fix the issue; hold the phone differently than the bottom and if it still doesn't work normal, keep on bugging AT&T for replacement(s). Those are the options. If you don't like either of those, (just my hunch ?) sell it and hope to get enough money for a new phone.

HTC RMA Process?

I have an issue with my phones vibrator, it makes a loud rattling noise as it vibrates. Sounds like a loose piece of hardware in my phone. I have an RMA pending with HTC, but cannot find an RUU for the Bell Mobility Variant of the HTC 10 and i'm unsure of whether it matters or not if i send my rooted device in with a custom ROM or not, and whether they will still honor the limited warranty if it is sent in such a condition. It's definately a hardware issue, but i've never gone through the process. Has anyone done it, know whether it will matter or not if the problem proves to be hardware related, or a way to get my bell variant back to stock before i ship it back?
Appreciate any input, thanks!

Monkz said:
I have an issue with my phones vibrator, it makes a loud rattling noise as it vibrates. Sounds like a loose piece of hardware in my phone. I have an RMA pending with HTC, but cannot find an RUU for the Bell Mobility Variant of the HTC 10 and i'm unsure of whether it matters or not if i send my rooted device in with a custom ROM or not, and whether they will still honor the limited warranty if it is sent in such a condition. It's definately a hardware issue, but i've never gone through the process. Has anyone done it, know whether it will matter or not if the problem proves to be hardware related, or a way to get my bell variant back to stock before i ship it back?
Appreciate any input, thanks!
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Hello, I have a similar problem, the vibration module is making rattling noise, something loose is inside probably. Did you succesfully repaired your phone with HTC?
I plan to contact HTC Poland tomorrow with this.

I couldnt get my phone back to stock so i had quite the fit with my provider until they sent me a new replacement which had a dead pixel, now have my third and finally seems to be the keeper.