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[Q] Xperia ARC vs Xperia PLAY

Hello!
Please tell me which games are there which I can't play on ARC while I can on PLAY?
Please name such games if you can.
I am about to buy any one of these tommorrow, and don't know which to prefer; here is a little comparison, please correct me if I am wrong and also mention something I might have missed;
ARC :
Great body design
Great body material
Great Camera
Poor sound
No gaming Pad
Larger Screen
Not so good Web experience
Not so good Touch Interface
Radio
PLAY :
Average body design
Poor body material
Average Camera
Great sound
Gaming Pad
Average Screen
Great Web Experience
Great Touch experience
No Radio
Also tell me is there any difference between them as far as the user experience is concerned, I mean any application or function or anything that ARC has and Play don't or vice versa?
How much do they differ as far as the browsing experience is concerned?
So far Arc is winning, I guess, but now it all depends upon the games. That's is why I am contacting you all. I mean I am interested in Star Battalion and Asphalt (which from what I know can be played on ARC), and not much interested in Crash Bandicot.
Please reply soon.
Thanks in advance.

Can you tell me why you think the play has better web experience then the arc I think the specs of the same are they not ?

Torres77an said:
Can you tell me why you think the play has better web experience then the arc I think the specs of the same are they not ?
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I've never had a problem with the web experience on the arc .

Torres77an said:
Can you tell me why you think the play has better web experience then the arc I think the specs of the same are they not ?
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Hello!
I don't know really.
I guess I got the impression from the fact that SE's official site says that PLAY is a great web experience on top of great gaming experience. And also from a video which showcased some downsides of ARC's browser versus that of IPhone 4 but couldn't find any video doing the same for PLAY.

I have to Disagree on some of your Points there on Arc
Poor sound
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You must not say POOR in General because for a Single Loud Speaker Arc Speaker is One of the Best out there, Dont' compare Single to Stereo Speaker, but Yes Xperia Play's Speaker is The Best Speakers on Mobile Phone out there.
Not so good Web experience
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Of course Bigger screen means Better Web Experience IMHO, I don't see why Arc will not do better than Play?
Not so good Touch Interface
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All Xperia right now have The Same Excellent Touch Interface, but Most Xperia's out there are Applied with Shatter Proof Sheet on a Mineral Glass that protects the screen, that could slightly decreases Touch Performance
IMO Both Phones are Great except they are focused on Different markets
Arc as the Camera/Video Stylish Phone and Play as the Gaming Phone Equipped with Superb PS controls and LOUD Stereo Speakers
but overall Experience is Great
You can also visit my youtube channel to see Arc in Action for Games
Arc Youtube Video's

I think you forget to mention that play does not support Brave Engine and i think both device has pretty good sound too. Just get to the store and try it.

Hey lol im facing the exact same crisis! I've kinda decided on the arc. Some of your points are not true mate. The arc web browsing is better. What the play has that the arc doesn't are the dedicated gaming controls and stereo speakers. By no means are the arc speakers bad. Don't pay much attention to the SE website.. they promote their phones as much as they can. For the xperia x8 they say access to thousands of apps on the market. That doesn't mean the androids don't lol. Arc has a brilliant camera, based on personal usage better than the N8 I don't know how.. 12mp vs 8 and even the owner of the N8 reluctantly admitted the arc camera was better. Arc has the exmor sensor and BRAVIA engine while play has no sensor, but has a BRAVIA port. Doesn't Work that great imho. Very little difference. Also keep in mind though that in bright light, bravia might not be good. It overdoes things sometimes and you can't turn it off. I'd love some feedback to this thread from arc owners, IV already got some from play owners. I think I'm gonna go with the arc cos I'm not a hardcore gamer and the arc screen is big enough to support touch controls on normal android games. Fpse can be a problem but I doubt I'll ever use it. Also, I doubt the play can support ps2 and psp games.. so I'm reluctant to get one. There may or may not be any exclusive games being released for it.. would be a HUGE disappointment to play owners. When it comes to custom roms and kernels, it appears the play has a bit more support I assume.. this is just my 2 cents.. would value other opinions very much.
Edit- arc touch interface is awesome. It's bloody brilliant. And it can detect more that 2 fingers simultaneously. Only negative point I have about the arc- in SOME models, hairline cracks appear in the housing. Just google it. It's quite rare.. and you won't notice it in most cases. If this doesn't bother you, it's fine. It doesn't affect performance or anything at all. It wouldn't bother me.. I wouldn't even notice lol. Yea.. thats my 2 cents.

price is a constant too, the arc is cheaper

Pjay12 said:
Hey lol im facing the exact same crisis! I've kinda decided on the arc. Some of your points are not true mate. The arc web browsing is better. What the play has that the arc doesn't are the dedicated gaming controls and stereo speakers. By no means are the arc speakers bad. Don't pay much attention to the SE website.. they promote their phones as much as they can. For the xperia x8 they say access to thousands of apps on the market. That doesn't mean the androids don't lol. Arc has a brilliant camera, based on personal usage better than the N8 I don't know how.. 12mp vs 8 and even the owner of the N8 reluctantly admitted the arc camera was better. Arc has the exmor sensor and BRAVIA engine while play has no sensor, but has a BRAVIA port. Doesn't Work that great imho. Very little difference. Also keep in mind though that in bright light, bravia might not be good. It overdoes things sometimes and you can't turn it off. I'd love some feedback to this thread from arc owners, IV already got some from play owners. I think I'm gonna go with the arc cos I'm not a hardcore gamer and the arc screen is big enough to support touch controls on normal android games. Fpse can be a problem but I doubt I'll ever use it. Also, I doubt the play can support ps2 and psp games.. so I'm reluctant to get one. There may or may not be any exclusive games being released for it.. would be a HUGE disappointment to play owners. When it comes to custom roms and kernels, it appears the play has a bit more support I assume.. this is just my 2 cents.. would value other opinions very much.
Edit- arc touch interface is awesome. It's bloody brilliant. And it can detect more that 2 fingers simultaneously. Only negative point I have about the arc- in SOME models, hairline cracks appear in the housing. Just google it. It's quite rare.. and you won't notice it in most cases. If this doesn't bother you, it's fine. It doesn't affect performance or anything at all. It wouldn't bother me.. I wouldn't even notice lol. Yea.. thats my 2 cents.
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You can Turn Off Bravia Engine in the Display Settings

mhyke13ph said:
You can Turn Off Bravia Engine in the Display Settings
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Thanks! Did not know that
Hmmm.... are you satisfied with your arc? Any main advantages/disadvantages?
About price - the arc came out at a significantly increased price when compared to the play. However, prices around now are the same. (In my country at least)

Pjay12 said:
Thanks! Did not know that
Hmmm.... are you satisfied with your arc? Any main advantages/disadvantages?
About price - the arc came out at a significantly increased price when compared to the play. However, prices around now are the same. (In my country at least)
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No problem. Actually I also had my dilema choosing Arc or Play these were the phones available at that time when i was going to replace my X8, I read a lot about these phones, and their price is almost the same $520 Arc and $525 Play, but i bought the Arc instead with lots of personal preferences, and yes I play a lot.
Yes I am very pleased with my Arc, not just by the looks of it, Performance is great and par on most dualcore phones out there.
Drawbacks? Cracks appearing and chrome peeling that will show around 2 to 3 months, cracks can be serious issue to most people, it hit hard on Midnight Blue version, and rare on Misty Silver, and I chose Misty Silver because of that.
IMO Chrome peeling is not new to us, i Also had some Chrome peeling in my Previous phone.
My Arc was up for 267Hrs before i encountered a random Reboot, I think that's Normal
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mhyke13ph said:
No problem. Actually I also had my dilema choosing Arc or Play these were the phones available at that time when i was going to replace my X8, I read a lot about these phones, and their price is almost the same $520 Arc and $525 Play, but i bought the Arc instead with lots of personal preferences, and yes I play a lot.
Yes I am very pleased with my Arc, not just by the looks of it, Performance is great and par on most dualcore phones out there.
Drawbacks? Cracks appearing and chrome peeling that will show around 2 to 3 months, cracks can be serious issue to most people, it hit hard on Midnight Blue version, and rare on Misty Silver, and I chose Misty Silver because of that.
IMO Chrome peeling is not new to us, i Also had some Chrome peeling in my Previous phone.
My Arc was up for 267Hrs before i encountered a random Reboot, I think that's Normal
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OMG! Im also looking to replace my x8! HA
Hmmm... I want to buy the midnight blue.. Silver doesnt look that great but the cracks are a problem.... Guess ill decide that when I go to buy it..
Do you regret not buying the Play? Or would you choose the arc over the play again? Also, what games do you play? HD? And are they completely lagless?

Pjay12 said:
OMG! Im also looking to replace my x8! HA
Hmmm... I want to buy the midnight blue.. Silver doesnt look that great but the cracks are a problem.... Guess ill decide that when I go to buy it..
Do you regret not buying the Play? Or would you choose the arc over the play again? Also, what games do you play? HD? And are they completely lagless?
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Oh yea you should replace that X8, too bad X8 was a great contender last year for Mid Range phones, but they didn't supported it well and it's like a Dead on Arrival Phone
Here is my Personal Youtube Channel
It Includes Unboxing, Quick Review(No voice though, Im Shy ) and lots of GAMES! Please Rate and Share too
I only encounter Lags when playing Asphalt 6, maybe because this game is not for Arc, and because this game is for Xperia Play Optimised, but still playable and it rarely lags.
If i could own Both that would be nice

Hmm.. Have you overclocked? Or it lags a little on stock rom with 1Ghz default clock

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Hmm.. Have you overclocked? Or it lags a little on stock rom with 1Ghz default clock
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No, I stayed on Stock Rom 2.3.3 and No Root , Still waiting for a Rootable 2.3.3 or 2.3.4 when time comes
Xperia Play Handles Games and Task very well because it is the only phone out there that uses a dual channel DDR2 memory working at 300 Hertz, that Improves Performances a lot and can perform Heavy Task.
Thats why Playing games on Play is Optimised and stayed @ 60FPS Refresh Rate.
One Very Big Pro for Xplay

athris said:
I think you forget to mention that play does not support Brave Engine and i think both device has pretty good sound too. Just get to the store and try it.
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The play has bravia engine since doomlord ported it

IMO the Play and the Arc are both excellent devices. But they are aimed at two totally diffrent markets. The Play has been heavly optimised for playing games. (stereo speakers, dual channel ddr2 memory). But unless you intend to play alot of games on your phone, i see no reason to buy a play over an Arc. I love playing games on my play. And could never go back to touchscreen games now

If you want to game a lot --> Play is for you because of the controla
If you want to use it as a normal smartphone, texting, browsing, gaming sometimes Arc is the way to go imo.
I don't regret getting my Arc and it's fast @ 1GHz but of course it's even snappier @ 1.2GHz
Mine midnight blue Arc has the crack but it's not that visable (most of my friends don't see it, even if you say them there's a crack).
Arc rocks, but both devices are great.
Day to day performance should be exactly the same on Arc and Play due same specs and same using experience.
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Actually I Play a lot but I did chose Arc over Play because of these Factors
>Size
>Weight
>Screen Size
>Screen Brightness
>Clear Black Panel
>Bravia Engine
>8MP Exmor R
>HD Recording
>HDMI Port(Bonus for Me)
>Style
Over
>PS Controls with Touch pads
>Stereo Speakers
>Exclusive Games and PS Suite
>Dual DDR2 Memory Channel
>Front Facing Camera
Put Those Arc Features in Play, I will choose Play Anytime
They could easily put some of those features and make Play as their Flagship phone?
Just Imagine All those Arc Features(not the Size and Weight) in Play

Those of you who have the play- (AndroHero I think)
Will the play be able to support PSP and PS2 games? Its my biggest concern about the Play. I saw a video on youtube - Modern warfare for xperia play. I know it was fake but the graphics :O:O:O:O:O:O Will the play ever actually be able to do that? Or will there most probably be a play 2 that will..?
My conclusion (so far) - The Play's gaming controls make it an ultimate portable gaming experience and you can thrash other players in online/multiplayer FPS games. The DDR2 RAM eliminates the lags that you very very rarely see on an xperia arc. And you get a tiny not-very-good front camera that Ill never use. The games can be played on both devices extremely well. Day to day performance is the same.
So...
Camera (really awesome cam) vs gaming controls.
Great.. Im exactly where I started out :/
Thanks all for the help More opinions always welcome. Im begging for them actually... It'll be my first high end android and I dont want to regret buying it or later thinking damn I should have bought the <insert name of what I didnt buy>
Edit- how is the support for the 2 devices when it comes to custom roms, kernels, etc?
Ive searched the forums for both, theres one note-worthy kernel (doom), one FXP rom each and the play has 2 or 3 others. Are roms for the arc in progress? Or is the stock rom brilliant as it is? Sorry for the *noob* questions. But Ive done the searching and researching and I want confirmation and stuffs I didnt know. New to the forums here etc etc

[Q] any good?

is this phone any good? how does it fare up against the iphone 4?

Android can do everything the iPhone 4 can't do, and the Xperia play has a larger screen, Gamepad, and what not?

thanks but i would prefer a more in-depth answer as to why and also if its a good phone or not (and why). thanks

KindaUndisputed said:
i would prefer a more in-depth answer as to why and also if its a good phone or not (and why). thanks
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Well I have a video review,
...a "How is it after 2 months?" session to see if it's quality stays consistent,
...as well as a COMPLETE written review.
http://verytechnical.wordpress.com/2011/11/19/sony-ericsson-xperia-play-4g-review/
That in-depth enough for ya?
EDIT: Long story short, you can find a handheld gaming system that handles tactile, portable gaming nicely, but they always fall short for... pretty much all of those non-game functions users over 14 need. You can find a lot of smartphones that handle all those necessities, but the touch controls are horrid, and every other physical controller option violates the "fearsome foursome" of external controller flaws; including that none of them aside from the Xperia PLAY have a lot of compatible games - SixAxis, ZeeMote, iControlPad, Gametel, BGP100...
...all of them fall flat on their ass when you start looking for something more than old emulated stuff. Xperia PLAY kicks ass as an emulator, but it's the only truly versatile smartphone with physical controls with the matching support of over 200 non-emulated games. There's no other device on the market that can hold the claim that well.
This is all from someone who came from 4th Gen idevices BTW. In comparison, its beat iOS at everything from media to games

Okay hardware wise they're almost the same.
1ghz CPU
512mb ram
5mp camera.
Adreno205 gpu to the sgx535
Apps will run similarly.
Okay better with iPhone :
The gorgeous hi res retina screen.
The app store
Smooth ui
Availability of apps.
Music, even though people might say otherwise.
Internal space.
Gyroscope
Better with xplay:
4 inch screen.
The ps controls
The exclusive apps
The Dlna
The PRICE
Audio feedback (xloud)
Image quality (with bravia engine )
The modding possibilities
WiFi hotspot (tethering)
A good forum
Price of apps.
Upgradeable memory (up to god knows how much with sdxc) lets say 64
Common peripherals ,ie Micro USB. So they're cheap if you misplace your charger etc.
Upcoming ics upgrade .
Upcoming PlayStation suite .
Current ps1 games .
Emulator possibilities.
Both are very good devices but unless if you were like me, a gamer, go for the iPhone .
The bads:
IPhone :
Heavily overpriced.
Not very revolutionary .
Overhyped apple product.(internals are the same as 3gs )
Relatively heavy.
Overshadowed by 4s .(last year's product)
Xplay:
Depreciation (not if you bought for like a £100)
Android ui (sorry guys spoilt by windows phone xD)
Weight 169 grams (if you're not a gamer you don't need this weight)
Lacklustre( maybe a bit overhyped too - so far but the upcoming months look really good imho)
But I still love my xplay, as I loved my omnia 7. May I recommend the ray if youre not into gaming and would like a good device .
My gf has a 4s and honestly, if you're gonna buy a new iPhone 4 save a bit more and buy the 4s instead .
Hope that helped.
Cheers
from tapatalk on xperia play.

Since buying an Xperia PLAY a couple of months ago, my old iPhone 4 hasn't seen the light of day and has been hiding in my draw since.
When I hold and use my PLAY, I know I'm holding a phone that was made especially for me. It's got:
- A nicely sized screen.
- Probably the best pair of speakers I've ever seen on a phone.
- Good battery life if treated well.
- That "WOW!" factor.
- 720p recording now.
- Great emulation performance.
- Can play pretty much all PS1 games using the likes of psxperia, FPSE and psx4droid.
- A large number of exclusive games.
- Is moddable and is a dream to run after rooting device.
I won't be buying another phone from here on unless it's a Sony gaming device running on Android.
I just love it when family come over in the holidays rocking up with their iPhone 4 and 4S thinking they have the best phone on the market. While they're talking to Siri asking for the weather, I'm having good fun playing Crash Bash with psxperia with a real game pad and at full speed.

KindaUndisputed said:
is this phone any good? how does it fare up against the iphone 4?
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The iPhone whether 4 or 3 or 6 is garbage , CNET and other hi-tech media mention it , IOS is the less customizable less user friendly .... I could go on. Best to actually compare it to a droid razr or galaxy s2 than any iPhone lol.
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amansth said:
Android ui (sorry guys spoilt by windows phone xD)
But I still love my xplay, as I loved my omnia 7.
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Have you tried out Launcher7 on the XPlay... Gives you that WP7 look and feel (at least for the launcher)... Ubermusic gives you a zune-style music player...
The biggest draw of any Android device over any of the other major platforms is customization. If you put the time and energy into it you can make Android do anything you want it to.

Plus this phone can take a bit of a drop and still be good the i phone will just shatter
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Weudel said:
Have you tried out Launcher7 on the XPlay... Gives you that WP7 look and feel (at least for the launcher)... Ubermusic gives you a zune-style music player...
The biggest draw of any Android device over any of the other major platforms is customization. If you put the time and energy into it you can make Android do anything you want it to.
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Yeah but launcher 7 isn't as smooth. Nothing is as smooth as windows phone. 7 no offense
from tapatalk on xperia play.

Hmm. Stock launcher on r800i I.e mine is as smooth if not smoother , I used to be a WM5 , 6, 6.5 addict. Including 7 , but ... No WM7's launcher or WP7 ISN'T the king.
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thanks for all the help guys! i would like a good phone but also be able to play games as well (maybe not extensively but i imagine i would use the pad a lot) would you say this is the phone for me or should i get another phone but stick to touchscreen controls? reviews are quite varied, some say its great and others say thats its great only for gaming? could anyone clarify briefly please?
*at the time of posting i have not watched nor read the reviews posted by "TLRtheory" so please excuse me if this was mentioned in one of them*

I recently got an iphone to try since i hear these things organize peoples lives,then got sick of it after i jailbroke it, being on android all these years i felt it was inconvenient just to make ringtones,text tones and with its limited format, then i found out im stuck with that square front page so i gave it to my brother.
then i brought a play, i played it for a few days then placed a listing online to sell it, then pulled out a few days after because i would waste more money getting something better like a Samsung s2
this phone is great it gets used alot more than any cellphone i had, while im waiting around or in public i can just burn some time and play.
At first it wasn't a great phone but then got root uninstaller to disable alot of the services i dont need.
the controls really make this phone worth it, i had sold my psp and missed all those old games, touchscreen controls never went far for me, i couldn't imagine clocking castlevania or many nes roms with it.

There is only one thing this phone can do better than any other: playing games. If you don't see yourself doing that often, you're better off with other options. Buying a Xperia Play is like crossing the Rubicon, as it makes a statement about yourself.

It depends, men are from android and women are from ios.

Well I will be playing games often but I just want to know if it is a good overall PHONE regardless of gaming. I currently have the ZTE blade so maybe that will tell you something..
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As an overall phone, it's just as good as a Samsung Galaxy S, HTC Desire S or any mid high end Android device: very fluid movement of the UI, so-so camera... It will be a fairly substantial improvement from the Blade, though that's a fantastic device btw. As a phone, it's bulky, but it has a remarkably good external speaker for music, packs a decent battery and the screen has a nice resolution (higher dpi than the blade).

I came from the Blade and find the Play super. Only cost me €7 more then the Blade too. Its a great phone if you can get it cheap.
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As an overall phone, it's just as good as a Samsung Galaxy S, HTC Desire S or any mid high end Android device: very fluid movement of the UI, so-so camera... It will be a fairly substantial improvement from the Blade, though that's a fantastic device btw. As a phone, it's bulky, but it has a remarkably good external speaker for music, packs a decent battery and the screen has a nice resolution (higher dpi than the blade).
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Agree with all that, but the DPI is actually lower. Not noticable mind

So is it significantly better than the blade?
I appreciate the answers by the way
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And what is better about it ?
and what sets it apart from basically being a psp, basically how would you convince someone that it's more than just a psp?
Thanks in advance
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What do you think xperia play 2 specs gonna be?

I plan to buy xperia play possibly this week or next month.
But im afraid there will be a new xperia play coming soon with higher specs.
Or there will be no xperia play 2?
I doubt it though because there already a quad core phones in the market
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i would like a quad core processor tegra 3 clocked maybe at 2ghz , at least 1 gb of dual channel ram, a 720p display, better backlight and 12 mega pixel camera

Moved to Q&A Section, hope you get good answers for making your decision!

I'm thinking xperia play 2 is 6 months to 1 year away. If you can wait that long for a new phone, then I would. Otherwise you'll get major phone envy when a new one comes out and you aren't due for an upgrade for another year past that.

ttiimm said:
i would like a quad core processor tegra 3 clocked maybe at 2ghz , at least 1 gb of dual channel ram, a 720p display, better backlight and 12 mega pixel camera
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You wish that to be on xperia play 2? That would be beast
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crono141 said:
I'm thinking xperia play 2 is 6 months to 1 year away. If you can wait that long for a new phone, then I would. Otherwise you'll get major phone envy when a new one comes out and you aren't due for an upgrade for another year past that.
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Lets see. But I'd probably wait.
What do you guys think? Is xperia play still worth to buy this year?
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Izzy Stinson said:
Lets see. But I'd probably wait.
What do you guys think? Is xperia play still worth to buy this year?
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I bougth mine this year, abou 1,5 ago and i´m very pleased with my decision.

Got mine in August and still love it to this day
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I don't care about the specs as long as they put in a bigger battery and fix the defect in the slider design.
Sent from a Galaxy far, far away

i think that the new play shud have better specs than present play cuz really when i saw this phone i expected better graphics nothing else but graphics i saw that either an ipod touch has better graphics than a play or gameloft jus isnt trying for android

S4pro chipset would be best, dualcore krait with adreno 320. However i think it will probably be standard S4.

RealMcoy said:
i think that the new play shud have better specs than present play cuz really when i saw this phone i expected better graphics nothing else but graphics i saw that either an ipod touch has better graphics than a play or gameloft jus isnt trying for android
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i'm pretty sure gameloft doesn't care about android.

MrHaPpY66 said:
i'm pretty sure gameloft doesn't care about android.
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Gameloft cares about whatever gives them the most money, which is iOS.
Sent from a Galaxy far, far away

RealMcoy said:
i think that the new play shud have better specs than present play cuz really when i saw this phone i expected better graphics nothing else but graphics i saw that either an ipod touch has better graphics than a play or gameloft jus isnt trying for android
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agreed. playing around with ipad 3 today and the graphics are like super hd

captain67 said:
Gameloft cares about whatever gives them the most money, which is iOS.
Sent from a Galaxy far, far away
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enough said.
im currently using an xperia mini pro and the specs are nearly the same as play except it has smaller screen. i noticed there are many android games lag on my mini pro therefore so does the play correct?
so my point is, should i wait for a new play comes out probably a dual core processor is enought at least ir should i just buy it cos there will be no xperia play 2 this year at least???

Izzy Stinson said:
enough said.
im currently using an xperia mini pro and the specs are nearly the same as play except it has smaller screen. i noticed there are many android games lag on my mini pro therefore so does the play correct?
so my point is, should i wait for a new play comes out probably a dual core processor is enought at least ir should i just buy it cos there will be no xperia play 2 this year at least???
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Well, my new phone is dual-core and a lot of games perform just the same as on the play. Some are even worse. I think it depends heavily on the developers and the game itself.
The problem is that Android games in general aren't written in a very efficient way, and aren't optimized well for a wide enough range of phones. Some games run better on Qualcomm, some better on Samsung chips.. Nothing seems to be optimized across the board from what I've seen.
Sent from a Galaxy far, far away

i would really like to see a new Xplay be released from sony
sony ericsson really dissapointed me with the Xplay they brought out

If they're smart, they won't touch the resolution, because they should be keen enough to figure out that changing the resolution would compromise and sacrifice from the 300+ games Xperia Play already has under it's belt.
With Xperia Play already running everything buttery-smooth on it's 1GHz snapdragon, dual-core/quad-core isn't really necessary... but we all know that media outlets will assure it's publicly DOA with idiotic conjectures about how it'll be behind the curve at launch if they don't (if only the general public could see how well Xperia Play keeps up with the *beasts* like SGS2 in Android's highest-end games)... so might as well slam a spec-whore processor in there to shut them up.
Doubling or quadrupling the RAM wouldn't hurt as long as they keep their focus on quality over quantity as highly as they did by choosing the ELPIDA chip they chose this time around, and doing something about that absolutely puny internal storage would definitely aid us in the combat against Gameloft's phone storage-whoring bastards.
Otherwise, nothing should change. Bump up what needs to be bumped up without compromising what they've established.

TLRtheory said:
If they're smart, they won't touch the resolution, because they should be keen enough to figure out that changing the resolution would compromise and sacrifice from the 300+ games Xperia Play already has under it's belt.
With Xperia Play already running everything buttery-smooth on it's 1GHz snapdragon, dual-core/quad-core isn't really necessary... but we all know that media outlets will assure it's publicly DOA with idiotic conjectures about how it'll be behind the curve at launch if they don't (if only the general public could see how well Xperia Play keeps up with the *beasts* like SGS2 in Android's highest-end games)... so might as well slam a spec-whore processor in there to shut them up.
Doubling or quadrupling the RAM wouldn't hurt as long as they keep their focus on quality over quantity as highly as they did by choosing the ELPIDA chip they chose this time around, and doing something about that absolutely puny internal storage would definitely aid us in the combat against Gameloft's phone storage-whoring bastards.
Otherwise, nothing should change. Bump up what needs to be bumped up without compromising what they've established.
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It would be interesting if they did a retina display-esque exact double of the current resolution though

The display should be 720p at least, yes, it will probably break a few games, but the benefits far outweigh the cost, most of those apps will be updated for 720p, or should have been written in a way to upscale to begin with. Hardware will likely be S4 or S4pro from what I can see from Sony so far and would be a good choice in keeping compatibility with current titles.
TLR whilst your steadfast resolve in defence of the plays specs is very admirable, and I would echo them myself on occasion, updating the plays specs is a must, Sony themselves have said that they had to do a lot of rework on ics to run on phones with such low ram, whilst the play might be able to run current gen games fine, it wont have a chance at many future upcoming titles, ive played gta3 on a sgs2, ...whilst the controls are terrible, theres a massive difference in overall performance.
Most of these games run well on the play to begin with because they were built with the sgs/xplay 1ghz single core cpu/gpu in mind, because they comprise a large portion of the market, that wont be the case in 6 months, soon these phones will be relegated to the low end, and just like pcs, your phone will be too obsolete to run the current games. I havent seen any games made yet that really push the sgs2 or even higher end phones to anywhere near their potential.
Also, i would be quite happy to see the occasional lag and force kills of running apps disappear. I do agree that they need to continue the good work they have done so far, the form factor and controls are good, expandable memory, removable battery, all that jaz, all I could really ask for is proper analog sticks and larger/better positioned volume up/down for gaming doubleduty.

XPlay 2 Announcement??

Found this link, looks genuine and sounds promising
The invitation teases that attendees will "find out what's new and next with Xperia gaming."
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http://www.tgdaily.com/games-and-en...sony-plans-mobile-announcement-next-wednesday

As epic as that would be... my money is on it being the launch of the "real" PS Suite on the Xperia Play :/

I think its just PS Suite and some other games, I don't have plans to get a new device soon either so I kind of hope its not a Xperia Play S or whatever because I need to face the temptation lol...
Off course it would be great for a successor but for me its just the wrong time lol, and by the time I do want a new device it would probably be by Jan 2013.

TheCraig said:
I think its just PS Suite and some other games, I don't have plans to get a new device soon either so I kind of hope its not a Xperia Play S or whatever because I need to face the temptation lol...
Off course it would be great for a successor but for me its just the wrong time lol, and by the time I do want a new device it would probably be by Jan 2013.
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I'm in the exact same boat, would much rather they improved it rather than get something completely new at a time like this.

ShahinTehShiz said:
I'm in the exact same boat, would much rather they improved it rather than get something completely new at a time like this.
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Agreed, I would rather pay £1,200 for a new iMac (I desperately need a new one, the computer I have now is about 2 years old) than dash out £600 - £700 for a device which will be out dated within a year or two (As in no more updates from Sony)

It would be funny if they release Xperia Play S.

*faints*

Geeve said:
It would be funny if they release Xperia Play S.
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before the release of ICS for the Play

I will probably not jump on an Xplay2 upon initial release, whenever in life that my or may not come to be, Im to in love with mine the way it is now and I dont really need or care to get a new one, but I have an upgrade on my account that is waiting for one should I ever change my mind

Just what if - Sony used the hardcore gamer group, as a test group to how such a phone would be accepted... I for myself love it and many do so too and with all the work we put in, they surely must have recognized that.
They saw that developers jumped on the wagon and optimized their games for the dpad (or at least made it available) 300+ games so far. If you bring a play2 out you can advertise with those + PS games maybe PSP games
They got all the Technologies to actually make a real good media/play phone with Bravia / Playstation / Walkman.
Tho I dont believe it will be with quad core or come out right now. It will probably be a Dual Core on 2ghz 1-2gig ram, some sony assigned graphics chip, 2 gb internal storage - so you have to buy the new special sony memory cards that will only fit in the phone.
Deliver it to Christmas and pay the review magazines properly this Time and cash in on the casual gamers.
(So basically the play was a succesfull testrun, sony now commits and makes resources available for a play2 )
// To be serious.
Also think it will be PS Suite

sashake said:
Just what if - Sony used the hardcore gamer group, as a test group to how such a phone would be accepted... I for myself love it and many do so too and with all the work we put in, they surely must have recognized that.
They saw that developers jumped on the wagon and optimized their games for the dpad (or at least made it available) 300+ games so far. If you bring a play2 out you can advertise with those + PS games maybe PSP games
They got all the Technologies to actually make a real good media/play phone with Bravia / Playstation / Walkman.
Tho I dont believe it will be with quad core or come out right now. It will probably be a Dual Core on 2ghz 1-2gig ram, some sony assigned graphics chip, 2 gb internal storage - so you have to buy the new special sony memory cards that will only fit in the phone.
Deliver it to Christmas and pay the review magazines properly this Time and cash in on the casual gamers.
(So basically the play was a succesfull testrun, sony now commits and makes resources available for a play2 )
// To be serious.
Also think it will be PS Suite
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If they were smart they would make it quad core. HTC and Samsung already use quads and Motorola is working on it also. If the really make a play 2 I don't understand why it wouldn't be up to date on the physical end, dual cores are nice but a huge selling point would be pure power.
Edit : plus the vita isn't that old . An Xperia play 2 would probably hurt vita sales even if the xp2 came out for Christmas time. They have slightly different markets, sure, ones a phone and ones not but.. just my 2c
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622314

sashake said:
Just what if - Sony used the hardcore gamer group, as a test group to how such a phone would be accepted... I for myself love it and many do so too and with all the work we put in, they surely must have recognized that.
They saw that developers jumped on the wagon and optimized their games for the dpad (or at least made it available) 300+ games so far. If you bring a play2 out you can advertise with those + PS games maybe PSP games
They got all the Technologies to actually make a real good media/play phone with Bravia / Playstation / Walkman.
Tho I dont believe it will be with quad core or come out right now. It will probably be a Dual Core on 2ghz 1-2gig ram, some sony assigned graphics chip, 2 gb internal storage - so you have to buy the new special sony memory cards that will only fit in the phone.
Deliver it to Christmas and pay the review magazines properly this Time and cash in on the casual gamers.
(So basically the play was a succesfull testrun, sony now commits and makes resources available for a play2 )
// To be serious.
Also think it will be PS Suite
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Nice post, same thoughts also.
PS: Sony Xperia Vita XD

Masters2150 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1622314
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Good luck with that
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/27/sony-dual-slider-patent/
Just saw this today on Engadget...
XP2 might really be on the way guys

DrROBschiz said:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/27/sony-dual-slider-patent/
Just saw this today on Engadget...
XP2 might really be on the way guys
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Thats a pretty cool idea. Id love to see something like that made!

TheCraig said:
Agreed, I would rather pay £1,200 for a new iMac (I desperately need a new one, the computer I have now is about 2 years old) than dash out £600 - £700 for a device which will be out dated within a year or two (As in no more updates from Sony)
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You'd rather replace a two year old device then buy a device that will be outdated in two years?
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One V vs Xperia Sola

I'm looking for a little bit of insight deciding between the One V and Xperia Sola. I definitely want a phone less than 4" (3.7" is just about ideal) and I've narrowed it down to the 2 unless anyone has some other suggestions. I like the One V as I've generally had good experiences with HTC and I'm a really big fan of HTC Sense, also it appears to have better build, display, and camera quality as well as a larger batter. Sony also doesn't have a very good track record for updates and the Xperia only has Gingerbread at the moment. However the Xperia has a dual core processor, a higher display resolution, NFC, a noise canceling mic, a digital compass, twice as much onboard storage, and a lower price. On paper the Xperia looks like a clear winner but I can't decide between the two. Also if anybody has any suggestions for other devices it's important to note I live in the US and will be on AT&T so I need GSM/UMTS 850/1900, and HSPA 14.4+ would be nice. Thanks in advance for any help.

Xperia sola
GO FOR XPERIA SOLA!!
My friend has SOLA and I own a One V! His phone is too good!!! Dual-Core!!
It's just better than One V in every way!! :laugh:

I think you need to go to your nearest store to experiece both phone by yourself. I thot Galaxy W was great with 1.4GHz, but when I tested it myself, I wasn't that impress. So does Xperia Sola. Thats why I bought One V instead. I like the fact that HTC One V has great community support (read: developers) so when the manufacturer decides not to upgrade your phone to the latest Android version, you can upgrade it via Custom ROMs. Offcourse Xperia Sola has dev support too, but the way XDA merged Sola, P, U forums, I can tell you that the development will not as fast if they are saperated. Whichever you buy, I hope it's the best for you as there is no "The Best Phone" in this world.
"Better late than never, but never late is better" - Drake

I wish I could go to the store and test them out but there's no stores that have them anywhere around here. That's why I posted to I can get a general idea about quality and real world performance, etc. And thanks to both of you for the insight.
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So based on my subjective view, HTC One V is better than Xperia Sola in term of build quality, screen, most probably camera. If you are casual gamer, you'll be happy with its single core processor. Plus, if you have ORD (Obsessive ROM-updating Disorder), you'll be happy with custom ROMs which are already available here.
"Better late than never, but never late is better" - Drake

JalmiNyondong1933 said:
So based on my subjective view, HTC One V is better than Xperia Sola in term of build quality, screen, most probably camera. If you are casual gamer, you'll be happy with its single core processor. Plus, if you have ORD (Obsessive ROM-updating Disorder), you'll be happy with custom ROMs which are already available here.
"Better late than never, but never late is better" - Drake
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So I was looking again having finally decided on the One V and I noticed it only has UMTS 850/900/2100 and lucky me I live in an area where AT&T only has a 1900Mhz license. 850Mhz here is exclusive to Verizon and US Cellular. There isn't like a baseband hack or anything I could do to enable 1900Mhz is there?

acollings said:
So I was looking again having finally decided on the One V and I noticed it only has UMTS 850/900/2100 and lucky me I live in an area where AT&T only has a 1900Mhz license. 850Mhz here is exclusive to Verizon and US Cellular. There isn't like a baseband hack or anything I could do to enable 1900Mhz is there?
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if that's the case, I recommend Xperia Go over Sola. at least Xperia Go has good review on many sites. it has 1900 MHz license and pocketable.

htc one v
sense is lot more better
i hated sola when i saw it..****ty ladies phone
like neo v
i hate sony phones :/

acollings said:
So I was looking again having finally decided on the One V and I noticed it only has UMTS 850/900/2100 and lucky me I live in an area where AT&T only has a 1900Mhz license. 850Mhz here is exclusive to Verizon and US Cellular. There isn't like a baseband hack or anything I could do to enable 1900Mhz is there?
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paarthdesai said:
htc one v
sense is lot more better
i hated sola when i saw it..****ty ladies phone
like neo v
i hate sony phones :/
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Xperia is his best choice. HTC One V doesn't have 1900 lisence.

JalmiNyondong1933 said:
If you are casual gamer, you'll be happy with its single core processor.
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One V for games?? NO!!! NEVER!!!! Let me tell you it lags! Forget about GTA, it can't even run Temple Run or Agent Dash properly!!!

Paresh Kalinani said:
One V for games?? NO!!! NEVER!!!! Let me tell you it lags! Forget about GTA, it can't even run Temple Run or Agent Dash properly!!!
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it runs perfectly!
it's user's fault that the games lags, not device's fault. don't go hitting the device so hard only because you have lag when you even send a message. you made numerous threads about your phone being sooo laggy, i remember i gave you an advice to reboot your phone (you didn't know that) and your reply was "its much better now".
learn to have a clean rom/phone and learn to use it better and your phone will move faster. if you want i can make a video of me playing temple run on my One V.

Paresh Kalinani said:
One V for games?? NO!!! NEVER!!!! Let me tell you it lags! Forget about GTA, it can't even run Temple Run or Agent Dash properly!!!
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That's because you won't root and oc.
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1ceb0x said:
it runs perfectly!
it's user's fault that the games lags, not device's fault. don't go hitting the device so hard only because you have lag when you even send a message. you made numerous threads about your phone being sooo laggy, i remember i gave you an advice to reboot your phone (you didn't know that) and your reply was "its much better now".
learn to have a clean rom/phone and learn to use it better and your phone will move faster. if you want i can make a video of me playing temple run on my One V.
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+1
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Paresh Kalinani said:
One V for games?? NO!!! NEVER!!!! Let me tell you it lags! Forget about GTA, it can't even run Temple Run or Agent Dash properly!!!
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I rooted my phone, using custom kernel and rom; and i'm able to play Dead Trigger, Final Fantasy III, Punch Hero, Riptide GP, Shadow Gun, etc without Chainfire 3D

Paresh Kalinani said:
One V for games?? NO!!! NEVER!!!! Let me tell you it lags! Forget about GTA, it can't even run Temple Run or Agent Dash properly!!!
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When I said "casual games" I meant Angry birds, paper toss, drag racing etc. GTA is considered as high end game. Smh..

1ceb0x said:
it runs perfectly!
it's user's fault that the games lags, not device's fault. don't go hitting the device so hard only because you have lag when you even send a message. you made numerous threads about your phone being sooo laggy, i remember i gave you an advice to reboot your phone (you didn't know that) and your reply was "its much better now".
learn to have a clean rom/phone and learn to use it better and your phone will move faster. if you want i can make a video of me playing temple run on my One V.
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Dont you think xperia sola will play high end games.like gta ,modern combat 3 much bettee than one v because sola has MALI 400MP!?plz tell me before i buy it. I play so many games on mobiles (high end games) so kindly tell me which one is better in gaming