I plan to buy xperia play possibly this week or next month.
But im afraid there will be a new xperia play coming soon with higher specs.
Or there will be no xperia play 2?
I doubt it though because there already a quad core phones in the market
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i would like a quad core processor tegra 3 clocked maybe at 2ghz , at least 1 gb of dual channel ram, a 720p display, better backlight and 12 mega pixel camera
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I'm thinking xperia play 2 is 6 months to 1 year away. If you can wait that long for a new phone, then I would. Otherwise you'll get major phone envy when a new one comes out and you aren't due for an upgrade for another year past that.
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i would like a quad core processor tegra 3 clocked maybe at 2ghz , at least 1 gb of dual channel ram, a 720p display, better backlight and 12 mega pixel camera
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You wish that to be on xperia play 2? That would be beast
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crono141 said:
I'm thinking xperia play 2 is 6 months to 1 year away. If you can wait that long for a new phone, then I would. Otherwise you'll get major phone envy when a new one comes out and you aren't due for an upgrade for another year past that.
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Lets see. But I'd probably wait.
What do you guys think? Is xperia play still worth to buy this year?
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Izzy Stinson said:
Lets see. But I'd probably wait.
What do you guys think? Is xperia play still worth to buy this year?
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I bougth mine this year, abou 1,5 ago and i´m very pleased with my decision.
Got mine in August and still love it to this day
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I don't care about the specs as long as they put in a bigger battery and fix the defect in the slider design.
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i think that the new play shud have better specs than present play cuz really when i saw this phone i expected better graphics nothing else but graphics i saw that either an ipod touch has better graphics than a play or gameloft jus isnt trying for android
S4pro chipset would be best, dualcore krait with adreno 320. However i think it will probably be standard S4.
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i think that the new play shud have better specs than present play cuz really when i saw this phone i expected better graphics nothing else but graphics i saw that either an ipod touch has better graphics than a play or gameloft jus isnt trying for android
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i'm pretty sure gameloft doesn't care about android.
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i'm pretty sure gameloft doesn't care about android.
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Gameloft cares about whatever gives them the most money, which is iOS.
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RealMcoy said:
i think that the new play shud have better specs than present play cuz really when i saw this phone i expected better graphics nothing else but graphics i saw that either an ipod touch has better graphics than a play or gameloft jus isnt trying for android
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agreed. playing around with ipad 3 today and the graphics are like super hd
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Gameloft cares about whatever gives them the most money, which is iOS.
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enough said.
im currently using an xperia mini pro and the specs are nearly the same as play except it has smaller screen. i noticed there are many android games lag on my mini pro therefore so does the play correct?
so my point is, should i wait for a new play comes out probably a dual core processor is enought at least ir should i just buy it cos there will be no xperia play 2 this year at least???
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enough said.
im currently using an xperia mini pro and the specs are nearly the same as play except it has smaller screen. i noticed there are many android games lag on my mini pro therefore so does the play correct?
so my point is, should i wait for a new play comes out probably a dual core processor is enought at least ir should i just buy it cos there will be no xperia play 2 this year at least???
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Well, my new phone is dual-core and a lot of games perform just the same as on the play. Some are even worse. I think it depends heavily on the developers and the game itself.
The problem is that Android games in general aren't written in a very efficient way, and aren't optimized well for a wide enough range of phones. Some games run better on Qualcomm, some better on Samsung chips.. Nothing seems to be optimized across the board from what I've seen.
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i would really like to see a new Xplay be released from sony
sony ericsson really dissapointed me with the Xplay they brought out
If they're smart, they won't touch the resolution, because they should be keen enough to figure out that changing the resolution would compromise and sacrifice from the 300+ games Xperia Play already has under it's belt.
With Xperia Play already running everything buttery-smooth on it's 1GHz snapdragon, dual-core/quad-core isn't really necessary... but we all know that media outlets will assure it's publicly DOA with idiotic conjectures about how it'll be behind the curve at launch if they don't (if only the general public could see how well Xperia Play keeps up with the *beasts* like SGS2 in Android's highest-end games)... so might as well slam a spec-whore processor in there to shut them up.
Doubling or quadrupling the RAM wouldn't hurt as long as they keep their focus on quality over quantity as highly as they did by choosing the ELPIDA chip they chose this time around, and doing something about that absolutely puny internal storage would definitely aid us in the combat against Gameloft's phone storage-whoring bastards.
Otherwise, nothing should change. Bump up what needs to be bumped up without compromising what they've established.
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If they're smart, they won't touch the resolution, because they should be keen enough to figure out that changing the resolution would compromise and sacrifice from the 300+ games Xperia Play already has under it's belt.
With Xperia Play already running everything buttery-smooth on it's 1GHz snapdragon, dual-core/quad-core isn't really necessary... but we all know that media outlets will assure it's publicly DOA with idiotic conjectures about how it'll be behind the curve at launch if they don't (if only the general public could see how well Xperia Play keeps up with the *beasts* like SGS2 in Android's highest-end games)... so might as well slam a spec-whore processor in there to shut them up.
Doubling or quadrupling the RAM wouldn't hurt as long as they keep their focus on quality over quantity as highly as they did by choosing the ELPIDA chip they chose this time around, and doing something about that absolutely puny internal storage would definitely aid us in the combat against Gameloft's phone storage-whoring bastards.
Otherwise, nothing should change. Bump up what needs to be bumped up without compromising what they've established.
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It would be interesting if they did a retina display-esque exact double of the current resolution though
The display should be 720p at least, yes, it will probably break a few games, but the benefits far outweigh the cost, most of those apps will be updated for 720p, or should have been written in a way to upscale to begin with. Hardware will likely be S4 or S4pro from what I can see from Sony so far and would be a good choice in keeping compatibility with current titles.
TLR whilst your steadfast resolve in defence of the plays specs is very admirable, and I would echo them myself on occasion, updating the plays specs is a must, Sony themselves have said that they had to do a lot of rework on ics to run on phones with such low ram, whilst the play might be able to run current gen games fine, it wont have a chance at many future upcoming titles, ive played gta3 on a sgs2, ...whilst the controls are terrible, theres a massive difference in overall performance.
Most of these games run well on the play to begin with because they were built with the sgs/xplay 1ghz single core cpu/gpu in mind, because they comprise a large portion of the market, that wont be the case in 6 months, soon these phones will be relegated to the low end, and just like pcs, your phone will be too obsolete to run the current games. I havent seen any games made yet that really push the sgs2 or even higher end phones to anywhere near their potential.
Also, i would be quite happy to see the occasional lag and force kills of running apps disappear. I do agree that they need to continue the good work they have done so far, the form factor and controls are good, expandable memory, removable battery, all that jaz, all I could really ask for is proper analog sticks and larger/better positioned volume up/down for gaming doubleduty.
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ive read that sony are thinking about making more high end andoird devices Playstation certified? Could they?
From what I gather, the "Playstation Certified" certification is to be expanded, though the lack of PSOne titles being released suggests they may be slowing up.
In the UK, there is a consensus that the launch of the Xperia Play was a bit of a flop which seems to be why it's been possible to get it relatively easily for less than £200 here which might lend to idea that there won't be a 'sequel'.
The last i heard on the subject, SE thought the Play still had plenty of mileage left in it so they were looking to support that for longer instead of doing Play 2 already
Verizon Wireless in the states is already trying to get rid of it's stock, $49.99 with 2 year contract, came out at $200 with a contract. They are discontinuing it due to lack of sales. Problem was on TV they were advertising the Droid 3, On Hulu they were doing the same advertisement for the Xperia Play.
My only complaint about the Xperia is lack of CDMA development and it's poor amount of on board memory.
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From what I gather, the "Playstation Certified" certification is to be expanded, though the lack of PSOne titles being released suggests they may be slowing up.
In the UK, there is a consensus that the launch of the Xperia Play was a bit of a flop which seems to be why it's been possible to get it relatively easily for less than £200 here which might lend to idea that there won't be a 'sequel'.
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well, i had another theory, yes, the play didn't sell well in the UK/elsewhere, but i think its being heavily discounted/discontinued now because a play 2 is coming and now that there is no sony ericsson, sony will probably want to integrate a PSP into a phone rather then whatever the play was supposed to be
also, look at most android phones, most of them have sequels, even the unsuccessful ones
the possibilities of a true PSP phone are to great for sony to just abandon the idea now, especially after SE's half assed attempt
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Verizon Wireless in the states is already trying to get rid of it's stock, $49.99 with 2 year contract, came out at $200 with a contract. They are discontinuing it due to lack of sales. Problem was on TV they were advertising the Droid 3, On Hulu they were doing the same advertisement for the Xperia Play.
My only complaint about the Xperia is lack of CDMA development and it's poor amount of on board memory.
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When I got mine like 3 months ago the guy at the verizon store was shocked I asked for it, had 1 in stock, and almost asked me if I was on crack for even wanting it.
Meanwhile its the best 50 bucks I ever spent.
Well remember the recent news that Sony has purchased the other half of Sony Ericsson. Sony Ericsson said they don't plan on launching an Xperia Play 2 soon but now that Sony is 100% in charge, I expect something big.
I mean the Xperia Play was outdated on launch. The only thing it had going for it was the gamepad (and dual speakers )
I want a dual core or quad core Xperia Play and I am expecting one to come out next year.
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When I got mine like 3 months ago the guy at the verizon store was shocked I asked for it, had 1 in stock, and almost asked me if I was on crack for even wanting it.
Meanwhile its the best 50 bucks I ever spent.
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Every time I call verizon the tech on the phone always asks me If I like my xperia play, Ive had maybe 3 months now and I woulda thought they just stop asking about it, maybe there checking Im not dis-pleased , nonetheless I paid 72$ and cant complain.. playing final fantasy 7 on my phone is priceless
Yeah i heard about sony buying out Sony Ericsson, would like it if they did release a sequel or something to sort themselves out
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Well remember the recent news that Sony has purchased the other half of Sony Ericsson. Sony Ericsson said they don't plan on launching an Xperia Play 2 soon but now that Sony is 100% in charge, I expect something big.
I mean the Xperia Play was outdated on launch. The only thing it had going for it was the gamepad (and dual speakers )
I want a dual core or quad core Xperia Play and I am expecting one to come out next year.
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You really need to stop jumping on the dual core wagon! Neither android nor any applications are optimised for dual core CPU's, meaning even with the extra power there is no performance increase
I always wanted a portable emu. Xplay will be used by me for many years to come. The fact that i can make a phone call, sms, go on the internet, and take pic/video with it is just gravy. Imho this is the best device i have ever owned.
AndroHero said:
You really need to stop jumping on the dual core wagon! Neither android nor any applications are optimised for dual core CPU's, meaning even with the extra power there is no performance increase
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QFT I went from an Atrix (1.3ghz OC) to the XP and I can tell you as far as speed there is no difference. I would like to have a little more ram in the XP but it's not a big deal. When I get rid of the XP I hope there's a XP2 or something because I'll go through serious withdraws.
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I agree, dual ccore on a phone is currently a marketing scam. What good is a second core if it cant be used?
Maybe a few years from now there will be a dual core capable os but right now there isnt.
On top of that when there is all current dual core phones will be long discontinued
If you got a phone becuase its dual core just call yourself a sucker
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I agree, dual ccore on a phone is currently a marketing scam. What good is a second core if it cant be used?
Maybe a few years from now there will be a dual core capable os but right now there isnt.
On top of that when there is all current dual core phones will be long discontinued
If you got a phone becuase its dual core just call yourself a sucker
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I understand that but most new developers are only releasing their games on what they call "Powerful dual core devices"
The Xperia Play is the only device that could fully use dual core because it is a real gaming phone. I'm really surprised that it wasn't more powerful. I meant at least put in that 1.4ghz processor in the ARC S. The whole Xperia Line should have launched with that processor.
Sonys ps certification announcement meant they will start licensing PS certified to other manufacturers so that they can expand their market. I'm thinking they want to eventually certify it to all android phones. It doesn't necessarily need a playpad for sony to certify it.
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Agreed. However if we are talking about a possible late 2012 release for the 'play 2' then can we assume there will have been more development put into the dual/quad core apps/os etc.? Especially with devices like the transformer prime coming soon, the quad cores are sure to implemented in phones next year.
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Agreed. However if we are talking about a possible late 2012 release for the 'play 2' then can we assume there will have been more development put into the dual/quad core apps/os etc.? Especially with devices like the transformer prime coming soon, the quad cores are sure to implemented in phones next year.
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Understood and agreed, but my comment was aimed at the fact that some people think the play is underpowered for the current generation of mobile, but the fact is although on paper the play is nothing special. The way android is atm and thanks to a couple of tricks by sony like dual channel ram, the play gamewise can hold it's own with any of the current generation of mobile, including dual core phones like the atrix
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I agree, dual ccore on a phone is currently a marketing scam. What good is a second core if it cant be used?
Maybe a few years from now there will be a dual core capable os but right now there isnt.
On top of that when there is all current dual core phones will be long discontinued
If you got a phone becuase its dual core just call yourself a sucker
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Afaik ICS will be optimised for dual core phones, Thats pretty obvious as the Galaxy Nexus (The official google developer phone for ICS) will be a dual core device
If they make a new device, Sony needs to implement actual analog sticks, not these touch pads. It would truly utilize the potential of a gaming phone and be commercially acceptable to everyone who doesn't want to deal with touch pads, especially the FPS loving crowd. The ONLY other thing I really wish the Xplay had was physical analog sticks (something like the PSP, or what the Vita will have). Sony needs to learn how to make the sticks pop out when the phone slides up. THAT would be wicked righteous amirite???
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Understood and agreed, but my comment was aimed at the fact that some people think the play is underpowered for the current generation of mobile, but the fact is although on paper the play is nothing special. The way android is atm and thanks to a couple of tricks by sony like dual channel ram, the play gamewise can hold it's own with any of the current generation of mobile, including dual core phones like the atrix
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Afaik ICS will be optimised for dual core phones, Thats pretty obvious as the Galaxy Nexus (The official google developer phone for ICS) will be a dual core device
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ICS may be more optimized for dual core phones, unfortunately apps still won't be so I don't think everyone is going to see the improvement they're expecting. Heck there really aren't even many multi core apps for computers besides some games and graphic design programs. Just my .02
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Pretty much true yes. With ICS dual-core support will be supported as far as I know. But then it's also up to the develeper to add support for it in the app I belive?
I really notice no difference in speed on things when using my Play or my work buddies Samsung Galaxy SII. I need no dual-core that sucks more battery.
Hey guys iam just here to discuss what i would like to se on the Sony Xperia Play 2.
Screen: 4.3 inch super amoled plus screen 1280x720 pixel resolution.
Give us three buttons like on arc.
Front camera: 2MP with 720p recording
Ear speaker: louder and clearer
Headphone jack: let us use all headphones. Dont wanna break open my beats to get them to work WTF
Stereo speakers: No change already great
Back camera: 8mp full 1080p hd recording led flash
Internal memory: 1.5GB RAM 1GB ROM 16GB flash memory
External memory: up to 64gb sdxc
Battery: Heard about new technology called 'graphene or graphite' i think thats what its called. Takes 10 MINUTES TO CHARGE! and last longer than traditional li-ion and li-plo
Batterys.
Now down to the important stuff!
CPU: quad-core 1.5GHZ
GPU: whatever is the latest and greatest GPU at the time. I dont wanna see an outed brought back to life GPU. Its good but just not cutting the mustard anymore.
I dont mind paying out for a great phone and portable gaming device. What about you leave a reply.
I think sony should take the big step with the xperia play 2 and jump into the next area of phones. Not smartphone a superphone
My opinion as a realist: No, not with such specs.
My opinion as an optimist: YESYESYESYESYESYES!!
But seriously, with playstation certificate again, and such INCREDIBLE specs, this phone would probably cost 3x more than the first Xperia PLAY cost during its launch. You should note, that Xperia PLAY is already not so popular phone (in Poland its launch price was about 1800 pln (google this price to see comparision to your currency) which in Poland is very very high price, especially for a single-core phone), also playstation games on android market are only sold about more than 1000 times so for me this phone was some sort of "phone fail" for Sony Ericsson. But if the price was much lower during launch, the support was way better (I mean FULLY WORKING playstation store) and the phone was dual-core (there were already some phones with dual-core CPU, so it wouldn't be new and also expensive), I'm sure this device would be incredibly competitive for other phones.
Anyway, I'm really proud of my Xperia PLAY, gaming is awesome, idea for joining android with psp was superb and I won't switch it for another phone, until I break it or it will die. I just love it.
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Roughly Cost £500-789 But I'D bUY IT¬1
I'd be happy if Play 2 had the hardware of Xperia S, maybe with a better GPU.
Xperia PLAY S? lol
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Xperia PLAY S? lol
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No, this isn't Apple, silly.
Joy
Better joysticks! Not one yoy pad like now, real Working touch joysticks!
The main thing I felt needed improvement with the Play is the horrid screen, which has poor viewing angle and very weak brightness. It has to be AMOLED. Also maybe better built quality.
I don't feel Sony wants to make another one due to the emulation and the recent failure of the PSP GO. I think if they create a device like this they want revenue stream from the softwares. They have to market it as a console and it needs to play all the PSP games, but right now this device seems more like a 'competition' to the PSP than anything (think about it). They can win consumers over if they provide good service through a strong market system and a large game library. And if the games are cheap, people will more likely to buy the games then to pirate.
PS. Quadcore don't mean anything to me except excuse for raising phone prices to $1000 and more bloatwares. I'll go with an Exynos 2ghz dual core myself. More cores doesn't tell the whole story when the Apple A5X beats the Tegra 3 on the graphic side. I still don't believe highest spec should be the main focus for a gaming device like this, as odd as that might sound, that is reserved for their flagship devices, to be paired with carriers like ATT and Verizon, and it simply can't be a gaming device. For a device like this it should be the ecosystem, which there isn't a strong one for the Play compared to PSP. I don't think Sony wants or need to spend money on this niche while their PSP handheld is going strong.
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No, this isn't Apple, silly.
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They alrady did it with Arc S.
As I read around the Internet, I see mixed reviews of the Xperia Play. However, if there is one thing i've learned through forum dwelling, it's that the unhappy are 10 times more likely to speak than the content.
If you don't want to answer any of those questions down below this, at least answer the poll <3
How well does it act as a phone? Are its texting/calling abilities acceptable?
How are the games? Are there emulators that take advantage of the control pad? Are there a reasonable amount of games that use the control pad? How often do you play games on it using the control pad? (I care so much about the control pad because it is the reason i'm considering buying it )
Is it exceptionally far behind recent phones? (Obviously it is behind as it isn't exactly a new phone, but will it still be useable 2-3 years from now?)
How well does Android run on it? Does it run more smoothly on the port of ICS or on its default Gingerbread? Do either of those OS's have a noticeable impact (good or bad) on gaming (compatibility, framerate, etc...)?
Would you buy your Xperia Play again?
Any other comments and experiences you have had are very welcome as well. Thank you for your time! I'm sure this thread will help at least one more person in the future.
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How well does it act as a phone? Are its texting/calling abilities acceptable?
How are the games? Are there emulators that take advantage of the control pad? Are there a reasonable amount of games that use the control pad? How often do you play games on it using the control pad? (I care so much about the control pad because it is the reason i'm considering buying it )
Is it exceptionally far behind recent phones? (Obviously it is behind as it isn't exactly a new phone, but will it still be useable 2-3 years from now?)
How well does Android run on it? Does it run more smoothly on the port of ICS or on its default Gingerbread? Do either of those OS's have a noticeable impact (good or bad) on gaming (compatibility, framerate, etc...)?
Would you buy your Xperia Play again?
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1) The thing I like the best about Xperia Play is that it's not just good at being a game device. While I'm struggling to have any use for my PlayStation Vita, my Xperia Play's able to be an 'everything'.
2) The games are nice! Which is a very big deal for me. What I feared the most is that this would just be another OpenPandora, GP32, Dingoo A320, iControlPad or Gametel Controller; coming with all kinds of high tech, next-level hardware that people are wasting for all these old-ass games. I don't want to buy new technology for old software. I like seeing games that are actually able to take advantage of Xperia Play's full resolution and all it's methods of this-generation controls. What makes Xperia Play a winner to me is that it has all that. It's an excellent emulator, but you can get a good emulator anywhere... don't mean to be blunt, but that's nothing special. What makes Xperia Play special is that it's actually able to play the upper crust of this-generation smartphone games with dual analogs, high-res graphics and conventions of this generation. I'm playing games on it all the time... and shockingly enough, my shiny new PlayStation Vita isn't compromising that.
3) On paper, it seems like it would be far behind current phones because it's a single core. In practice though, it's running software (game and non-game) just as smoothly as the latest and greatest. Adreno 205 isn't very high-ranking on GPU acceleration, but practice always matters more than concept, and in practice I seldom see dips in framerate or hiccups in everyday use... and since it's got game controls, it's got a merit that those powerhouse phones don't. By all means, it should already be obsolete, yet everytime the next big 'benchmark' game comes out, Xperia Play has it's hands all over it. Then again, the same group of oblivious spec-counters talk **** about how every iPhone released is behind the curve at launch... yet single cores still hold their ground.
4) Android runs pretty silky smooth for me. What I will say is that you may not get the smoothest performance with that crappy standard launcher Sony puts on it's phones. With LauncherPro or ssLauncher, you see the Xperia Play being ridiculously smooth (those two launchers in particular also are a huge battery life savers).
5) I'd definitely buy it again. When I initially got this, it was a toss up between this and the Motorola Atrix. Now I see people with GS2's, Atrix, G2x, Atrix 2, GNotes that all fall in love with this single core phone I have (a few have even offered to trade their stronger phone for my weaker one that has game controls). I'll be able to upgrade again soon, and I'll likely just be using that for eBay fodder. As long as my Xperia Play continues being silky smooth and keeps providing a gaming experience that nothing else parallels, I don't see myself caring how strong phones get.
Do you like your Xperia Play?
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Well, the things that I don't like about it are cpu, gpu and ram because they are not appropriate for a gaming device.
but will it still be useable 2-3 years from now?)
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As a gaming device, I think it will not be usuable for games because games in the future will require Android 4.1 + more than good hardware like (1GB RAM - Snapdragon S4 CPU ... etc)
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TLRtheory said:
1) The thing I like the best about Xperia Play is that it's not just good at being a game device. While I'm struggling to have any use for my PlayStation Vita, my Xperia Play's able to be an 'everything'.
2) The games are nice! Which is a very big deal for me. What I feared the most is that this would just be another OpenPandora, GP32, Dingoo A320, iControlPad or Gametel Controller; coming with all kinds of high tech, next-level hardware that people are wasting for all these old-ass games. I don't want to buy new technology for old software. I like seeing games that are actually able to take advantage of Xperia Play's full resolution and all it's methods of this-generation controls. What makes Xperia Play a winner to me is that it has all that. It's an excellent emulator, but you can get a good emulator anywhere... don't mean to be blunt, but that's nothing special. What makes Xperia Play special is that it's actually able to play the upper crust of this-generation smartphone games with dual analogs, high-res graphics and conventions of this generation. I'm playing games on it all the time... and shockingly enough, my shiny new PlayStation Vita isn't compromising that.
3) On paper, it seems like it would be far behind current phones because it's a single core. In practice though, it's running software (game and non-game) just as smoothly as the latest and greatest. Adreno 205 isn't very high-ranking on GPU acceleration, but practice always matters more than concept, and in practice I seldom see dips in framerate or hiccups in everyday use... and since it's got game controls, it's got a merit that those powerhouse phones don't.
4) Android runs pretty silky smooth for me. What I will say is that you may not get the smoothest performance with that crappy standard launcher Sony puts on it's phones. With LauncherPro or ssLauncher, you see the Xperia Play being ridiculously smooth (those two launchers in particular also are a huge battery life savers).
5) I'd definitely buy it again. When I initially got this, it was a toss up between this and the Motorola Atrix. Now I see people with GS2's, Atrix, G2x, Atrix 2, GNotes that all fall in love with this single core phone I have (a few have even offered to trade their stronger phone for my weaker one that has game controls). I'll be able to upgrade again soon, and I'll likely just be using that for eBay fodder. As long as my Xperia Play continues being silky smooth and keeps providing a gaming experience that nothing else parallels, I don't see myself caring how strong phones get.
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Thank you so much for your review! You basically covered everything that I have been searching far-and-wide to find. It's good to hear that it can also handle current generation games (for the most part) because it's always nice to have one or two pick-up-and-play mindless games, and the current mobile market excels at that.
I too believe that a device's specs don't mean much unless they are real world, so it's nice to hear from an actual user that it performs well. The main complaints I have read are lag of android and battery life, so to learn that I can improve it (at least a bit) is a very big plus.
Thanks for taking the time to help me out! Where there is one satisfied customer there is bound to be more, but I will stick around to see what others have to say as well.
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Well, the things that I don't like about it are cpu, gpu and ram because they are not appropriate for a gaming device.
As a gaming device, I think it will not be usuable for games because games in the future will require Android 4.1 + more than good hardware like (1GB RAM - Snapdragon S4 CPU ... etc)
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I don't really see it as a replacement for a true gaming device. If I wanted to play polygon-packed, particle effect oozing games, I would spring for a Ps Vita (which I probably will get some day). As long as it can run a reasonable selection of game pad optimized games/emulators, i don't mind the lack of specs.
I don't really see it as a replacement for a true gaming device. If I wanted to play polygon-packed, particle effect oozing games, I would spring for a Ps Vita (which I probably will get some day). As long as it can run a reasonable selection of game pad optimized games/emulators, i don't mind the lack of specs.
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I think you are right
I've
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How well does it act as a phone? Are its texting/calling abilities acceptable?
Excellent. 100% a good PHONE.
How are the games? Are there emulators that take advantage of the control pad? Are there a reasonable amount of games that use the control pad? How often do you play games on it using the control pad? (I care so much about the control pad because it is the reason i'm considering buying it )
Games for Android are great. SO many games are Xperia PLAY optimized. Emulator games, imo, are where it's at. Most emulated games just downright play better with physical controls. I <3 <3 <3 playing my PS1 roms on it.
Is it exceptionally far behind recent phones? (Obviously it is behind as it isn't exactly a new phone, but will it still be useable 2-3 years from now?)
I think so. Yeah it will lag a bit, especially as newer Android versions will require newer hardware, but imo we're safe for another year and a half or two. Possibly more.
How well does Android run on it? Does it run more smoothly on the port of ICS or on its default Gingerbread? Do either of those OS's have a noticeable impact (good or bad) on gaming (compatibility, framerate, etc...)?
For me using a custom rom (TrueAncestor) it's *butter*y smooth. Plays my games excellently.
Would you buy your Xperia Play again?
I most certainly would. Actually, I just did, and I am NOT regretting that desicion AT ALL. I had bought a beat up used one first and it died, but I liked it so much I bought it again.
i'll buy it ,
if one day , xperia play 2 comes , i'll buy that too , for any price
game pad is really really special H/W on phone , all i need is game and game support
I brought my play specifically for gaming as I'm sure so did everyone who has got this phone, I think it is a really good phone for gaming although it does struggle with some larger games like nova 3 but all in all the games seem to run lag less and have yet to have any issues with gaming myself, the phone itself excluding gaming is great it runs smooth, looks nice and its awesome when u show it to ur mates then flip out the controller lol, I wasn't sure about buying this phone at 1st as it does have some bad reviews and with it only having a 1ghz single core processor it didn't seem that revealing, anyway I went ahead and brought it and im yet to see any faults with it in fact after seeing mine my bro sold his iphone4 to buy one and my mate sold his sensation xe to buy one aswel which on paper is a huge downgrade, like I said some large games like nova 3 for example do lag but personally I think thats not because the phone can't hack it but that the game itself is just made crappy but a little lag on some games is worth bearing for the fact that u have a controller. This is the phone for anyone who likes gaming and if u install a custom rom and kernel its even better, I love this phone and won't ever change it unless an Xperia play 2 comes out
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Hi, for me it's the best phone out there not only for gaming cause it can everything what a modern android phone should can. I use it every day as a normal phone and everything is fine and if you are a gamer and retrogame fan like me then there isn't something better.
Of course there a lot of more powerfull phones but as said they're just phones, and yeah i tried to play on others but with touch it's impossible to play a good game!!
Hello i've got a question?...
I have now a htc wildfire and it is time to buy an new one I like gaming on mobiles, So my decision is buying a Xperia Play for its WONDERFULL keypad and mainly for it's price(i have a limited amount of money for a phone) ,but is it good for era 2012-2013 gaming? like modern combat 4 and Grand Theft Auto® Vice city 10th year anniversery and maybe other wonderfull games. and is the resulotion also good, i've got optimus 2x in thaughts but i read it breaks too fast and battery sucks
please give me some advice
Cheers :victory:
Yep.
But might not be the best choice for games in 2013 or 2014.
It's a good phone but without overcloing or good optimized games, I don't think that it is highly recommendable to buy it for that purpose you have of playing 2013 and 2014 games on it.
But if you can get it cheap why don't try it?
^Yeah, forget to state that its also really cheap.
Get it, it's a good phone. It's not as generic looking as the others.
Are there maybe other phones that are cheap and can run these games
How much are you looking to spend?
Used Galaxy Nexus are going cheap right now.
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The current games aren't running as smoothly as they should. I do not intend to sound pessimistic, but I doubt games in '13 or '14 will run smoothly, if the world still exists by then.
No it isn't. Anybody telling you to buy the phone is either a gaming enthusiast or really loves the phone. The phone has been long abondoned by Sony, so no updates. It is also really underpowered and lag becomes apparent unless you've overclocked. However, compare it to even the SGS2 which was released around the same time and this phone is still not smooth. There are people using this device as a pure android gaming device now and many including developers have bought new devices. As well as this, the phone is thick which can be an annoyance at times. Before anybody says my phone is not setup properly, I am running .62 stock,debloated,overclocked.
EDIT- The battery sucks as well.
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The current games aren't running as smoothly as they should. I do not intend to sound pessimistic, but I doubt games in '13 or '14 will run smoothly, if the world still exists by then.
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It'll exist. We will all be in debt though. And not current debt, even worse debt.
OT - I honestly wouldn't. Get a SG3. You can play future games and current games on lovely settings.
I'd love to buy a sgs3 but i have a limited amount of money
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I'd love to buy a sgs3 but i have a limited amount of money
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I just bought a Galaxy Nexus for $200, so you just have to look. Its not as fast as the S3in term of gaming, but yhe software is better on a whole due to being stock Android and you can run a kernel to overclock the GPU.
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Hello i've got a question?...
I have now a htc wildfire and it is time to buy an new one I like gaming on mobiles, So my decision is buying a Xperia Play for its WONDERFULL keypad and mainly for it's price(i have a limited amount of money for a phone) ,but is it good for era 2012-2013 gaming? like modern combat 4 and Grand Theft Auto® Vice city 10th year anniversery and maybe other wonderfull games. and is the resulotion also good, i've got optimus 2x in thaughts but i read it breaks too fast and battery sucks
please give me some advice
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I have both these phones and I can tell you my Play outperforms my 2X in everything.
My 2X isn't rooted/custom whereas my Play is, but it's no excuse for it to perform as badly as it does. You're also tied down to Android 2.3 on the 2X as there is a problem with video accelleration in ICS/JB... Something to do with Nivvy not releasing proper libs or something.. Not sure.
But yeah, Play all the way.
Not to mention, all those emulators and vintage games you can now play again on a handheld device... The play is around £100 off ebay these days, for that kind of price you simply can't say no! Especially when all these developers are working so hard to make the Play so much better than Sony ever could..
What about xperia U , P, Arc S, Ray, neo V
The play is a wonderful phone but now day graphics are a little much for it now unless you O/C and everything else but I would suggest you get like the RAZR M with a. 2Ghz processor but single core, but the play is just out of date and I suggest you get a better phone... but I love my play
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A phone, with a genuine gamepad, that can emulate everything up to and including N64 and Playstation,
That will NEVER get old for me.
Screw new games.
For older games, it's the best thing you can buy. But most newer games and even some games from last year will lag or not have the same graphics as a higher end device. If you care about how your games look, then don't get this. Another thing is, the single core 1 GHZ processor is really slow, even with OC. A newer dual core or quad core device will be a much better experience when it comes to thing like web browsing and general things you would do on a phone as well as running games very fast. Multi-tasking is not good on this phone on any ROM other than stock. It has a very low amount of ram. My minimum specs for an Android phone after this will be dual core and 1 gb of RAM. Single core phones make android look bad imo.
Well I bricked my rezound so I'm looking for a replacement for about a year until I sign a new contract. I found an Xperia play new for $125. I've read lots reviews and I'm good with everything but I still have one question. Is 512 ram enough? Is the phone responsive as far as the android side of it goes?
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Well I bricked my rezound so I'm looking for a replacement for about a year until I sign a new contract. I found an Xperia play new for $125. I've read lots reviews and I'm good with everything but I still have one question. Is 512 ram enough? Is the phone responsive as far as the android side of it goes?
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512 ram is enough if you only do just gaming nothing running in the background including facebook. I loved my xperia play so much I bought another on ebay. As far as custom roms go I tend to stick with gingerbread. So far there are alot of xperia play optimized games in the google marketplace. As time progresses our xperia play may become a fossil to run on the newer games but I seriously doubt it will happen until the next 3 years. If your tired playing touchscreen based games the xperia play will leave you a smile on your face thats what I felt when I was playing on my play. In my honest opinion the xperia play miles ahead of the competition on gaming even on its 1 ghz cpu.
Yeah it's a good phone - if you like gaming, if you're not a bigger gamer this is probably not the phone for you. After all the selling point of this phone is the game pad. The samsung Galaxy S3 is pretty cool with it's dual core CPU and other fancy stuff but without a game pad those precious HD android games don't mean s*** (to me at least). Plus it's a novelty, when the S4 comes out no one will want the S3. The Xperia Play on the other hand is the only phone with a game pad. It has that unique look and that want factor.