I would like everyone who is interested in seeing an official build of Jellybean for the GNex sooner rather than later to ask them what the hold-up is on all of their social media. If we can pressure them nicely using a public forum, then we might see it before 2013. Just a thought.
http://www.facebook.com/verizon
http://twitter.com/VerizonWireless
https://plus.google.com/102058743234715004229/posts
Sorry to rain on your parade, but posting on VZW's Facebook page isn't going to make their engineers test an OTA any faster.
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Sorry to rain on your parade, but posting on VZW's Facebook page isn't going to make their engineers test an OTA any faster.
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Especially since the engineers arent the ones testing
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Especially since the engineers arent the ones testing
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stop using the forum and get to making a rom! (kidding... sorta)
to the OP,
good luck getting vzw to approve an update faster.
I heard those FB posts go right to the board of directors! :cyclops:
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stop using the forum and get to making a rom! (kidding... sorta)
to the OP,
good luck getting vzw to approve an update faster.
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I am, I swear!
Just added N7 to the repos
Just to piss in somebody's Wheaties:
http://twitter.com/VZWSupport/status/225986650533158912
On one hand it can't hurt, on the other it never seems to help either. I would advise to get on a custom ROM if you can't wait. That said, I have contacted them on all 3 social media sites already.
Edit: If you post on fb, you may get a reply like this..
I would like to see Jelly Bean on my Nexus as well! We do not have a date at this time for Jelly Bean, but once available, we'll announce it here & you'll see details on vzw.com/support. ^MSF
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Sorry to rain on your parade, but posting on VZW's Facebook page isn't going to make their engineers test an OTA any faster.
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Or maybe they aren't even testing a "OTA ROM" to even begin with. A company should have better communication to their customers with upcoming updates.
As a Verizon customer and been with them for years, I come to expect this.
and as a Nexus user, I don't care when Verizon releases it because there's plenty of custom ROMs for me.
I did say it would be probably September at the earliest before the Toro gets JB officially.
Well, I just installed Vicious 4.1.1 v1, and I no longer care. Best choice I've made all day Carry on!
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Well, I just installed Vicious 4.1.1 v1, and I no longer care. Best choice I've made all day Carry on!
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What about:
Would be nice to have radios and bootloader for Jellybean because I am tired of weaker-than-ICS signal?
Care now?
adrynalyne said:
What about:
Would be nice to have radios and bootloader for Jellybean because I am tired of weaker-than-ICS signal?
Care now?
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^THIS^
The Verizon rep I just spoke to claims they have NOTHING to do with the update, that they come directly from Samsung and VZW doesn't touch it, test it, nothing. I don't believe that.
@adrynalyne can't wait to see what you can do with the Nexus 7.
Also, all I want is the jellybean radios. Sure jellybean would be nice, but the toro is aosp now so no need to really worry about that.
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^THIS^
The Verizon rep I just spoke to claims they have NOTHING to do with the update, that they come directly from Samsung and VZW doesn't touch it, test it, nothing. I don't believe that.
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I wouldn't buy that either.
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I wouldn't buy that either.
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It was a half truth.
VZW doesn't 'touch' it. They test it, but never modify it. They send a change/fix request to Google.
Slick bastards and their wordplay.
Definitely not great news. Waiting.
http://twitter.com/VZWSupport/status/225609870009843712
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Time to start harassing VZW. Back in the days of the GalaxyS Fascinate, they pushed 2.2 pretty quickly after a day of spamming. Just saw that GNex was their best selling phone in quarter 2 - you think they would provide better support.
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Time to start harassing VZW. Back in the days of the GalaxyS Fascinate, they pushed 2.2 pretty quickly after a day of spamming. Just saw that GNex was their best selling phone in quarter 2 - you think they would provide better support.
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I read that [on Verizon] Android outsold iPhone in Q2 but I didn't see anything in the reports or press releases that the Nexus was their best selling phone in Q2. Link?
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adrynalyne said:
What about:
Would be nice to have radios and bootloader for Jellybean because I am tired of weaker-than-ICS signal?
Care now?
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Well... I do hate getting disconnected randomly, and needing to reset the phone. I haven't had any issues with Jellybean, but I did just install it.
What radio that is out currently works best?
Related
https://plus.google.com/u/0/117962666888533781522/posts/XeuyNiwiUYG
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Cyanogenmod development for T989 resumes!
https://plus.google.com/u/0/117962666888533781522/posts/XeuyNiwiUYG
CyanogenMod - 2:40 PM - Public
T989 Update
Treat him nicely! Nagging will only de-incentivize him to work on it. Just be content we haven't forgotten about the Tmo SGSII.
Brint Kriebel originally shared this post:
Since word seems to have spread: Regarding the T-Mobile Galaxy S2 (T-989). Yes, I have one and yes, I will be trying to get a stable CM9 build running on it.
Fair warning that this can only be a spare time task for me right now and I have a lot of priority projects right now, so it likely won't be quick. If anyone out there would like to help, that is great - let me know. Otherwise, I will do what I can.
I will update on progress, but please continue to be patient.
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before anyone asks slayher got deployed into active duty
a) you have to login to a google account for that link
b) there is code to actually make it into a link ,use the globe with link button
c)see a) is this the same post as the other cm9 thread
For those that can't see it. It reads:
"Since word seems to have spread: Regarding the T-Mobile Galaxy S2 (T-989). Yes, I have one and yes, I will be trying to get a stable CM9 build running on it.
Fair warning that this can only be a spare time task for me right now and I have a lot of priority projects right now, so it likely won't be quick. If anyone out there would like to help, that is great - let me know. Otherwise, I will do what I can.
I will update on progress, but please continue to be patient. "
and we all know that really means to start pestering him for etas...
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For those that can't see it. It reads:
"Since word seems to have spread: Regarding the T-Mobile Galaxy S2 (T-989). Yes, I have one and yes, I will be trying to get a stable CM9 build running on it.
Fair warning that this can only be a spare time task for me right now and I have a lot of priority projects right now, so it likely won't be quick. If anyone out there would like to help, that is great - let me know. Otherwise, I will do what I can.
I will update on progress, but please continue to be patient. "
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i see. it the same as the other thread that has more info. this should be merged into the other more useful thread
Here is the screenshot.
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Good to here
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Was posted at about the same time. Was likely writing it as the other showed up
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Well at least it isn't a useless post that doesn't confirm anything...saw this on my g+ a little while ago. Good to have confirmation I guess...but almost embarrassing that they had so many people pester them they had to release a special statement about the t989
Shameful...
So basically if you HAVE to have cm9 sell this phone now and save yourself the trouble. Too bad there is no other better phones for Tmobile to get.
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gnex works with tmo 4g
basically..bekit is working on our phone
and we should stop spamming them about it..on one of the G+ cyanogenmod page ive seen more than 25% of posts are people asking why theres no cm9 on t989..and a bunch of kids cursing at the devs as well..
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basically..bekit is working on our phone
and we should stop spamming them about it..on one of the G+ cyanogenmod page ive seen more than 25% of posts are people asking why theres no cm9 on t989..and a bunch of kids cursing at the devs as well..
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I certainly don't approve of that type of behavior but on the other end I can understand why they are upset. We got the ****TIEST end of the galaxy s2 sick by a mile.
No reason to take it out on devs though.
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I certainly don't approve of that type of behavior but on the other end I can understand why they are upset. We got the ****TIEST end of the galaxy s2 sick by a mile.
No reason to take it out on devs though.
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I have to agree. A serious of unfortunate events has made it so that there has been no work done on our device until late March and even at that its in the backburner.
cbinvb said:
gnex works with tmo 4g
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I think he means on contract
Melon_Bread said:
I think he means on contract
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you dont have a few hundred laying around. peasant
i kid
I hope the CM9 port comes fast anyone who knows how to develop please help!
CM9 coming for T-Mobile Galaxy S2 (T-989)
I'm sure that lot's of you will be relieved to see this:
https://plus.google.com/117234128176198944729/posts/VPyzGS5MZRG
Edit: Sorry for the repost. I was at work headed to a meeting and saw this right before, so I posted it really quickly. My apologies; I'm sure you were all so offended.
Her phone will not stay connected on a call for more than 5 minutes at a time. It constantly goes into Airplane mode, and she randomly has data drops.
I've put her on AOKP 4, Liquid smooth & Android Rev HD 3.0, with Stock & Franco #2 milestone. NOTHING WORKS.
It sucks because I have no problems with mine, other than a bit of lag here and there (which may have been fixed with the Trinity Kernel).
So shes done. Already up and purchased an HTC one S. I really want her to stay in the GN but I think its just left a bad taste in her mouth.
I'm just really trying to figure out what the heck is wrong with her phone.
I haven't tried the newest 4.0.4 that was released a few days ago, but I honestly doubt its gonna do anything. Suggestions???
Stock anybody? All the way stock with ugla4 or uglc1 radio? Trying to force roms perpetually in progress is a bad idea and your desire to force customization on her left her with a bad phone.
teach a man to fish, you feed him for life. teach a man to fastboot, and you create competency. and less threads on xda.
It's probably defective, especially if you've tried the plethora of software options that people are likely to suggest. Careful buying things out of frustration, though, especially things that are brand new to the market. The One S is not immune to QC defects and such. For instace:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ht...phones-one-day-does-htc-have-qc-problems.html
Get her GNex replaced. Or let her just go with the One S, I'm sure it's a solid phone. There are tradeoffs that she may or may not care about when one decides to use a non-Nexus phone. Just make sure she knows.
Why would you buy your wife a Galaxy Nexus and unlock it? I'm going to assume she's not Android savy or knows what you're doing, but seriously a bad idea just asking for trouble.
Just saying.
Also, that's a hard issue.
Let her keep the One S and keep it Stock. Its a good UX and won't break on her. Personally, I wouldn't recommend a Nexus phone to someone such as your wife.
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Why would you buy your wife a Galaxy Nexus and unlock it? I'm going to assume she's not Android savy or knows what you're doing, but seriously a bad idea just asking for trouble.
Just saying.
Also, that's a hard issue.
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He may have unlocked it just to try some different solutions to fix or alleviate the problems they were having.
But yeah, I think the more appropriate thing to have done is just take it back and get a new one. You paid for a working phone, don't ever hesitate to keep taking it back until you get one that works as it should!
I have heard that several people with that problem have had their GN replaced and fixed the problem. When I got mine, the verizon rep specifically told
me that if I had that problem to bring it back to get replaced. I think they had a bad batch of phones....
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@rbiter said:
teach a man to fish, you feed him for life. teach a man to fastboot, and you create competency. and less threads on xda.
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i simply love this line. i would like to place this on my signature but out of respect i'll ask first. may i?
thephantom said:
i simply love this line. i would like to place this on my signature but out of respect i'll ask first. may i?
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me too
Did you try just ... stock? If that's doesn't work, then it is clearly a hardware issue.
Normal users should use stock IMHO. It's can be frustrating hobby otherwise
mcgon1979 said:
Normal users should use stock IMHO. It's can be frustrating hobby otherwise
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So damn true. Never rooting for a friend again. Ever.
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overthinkingme said:
So damn true. Never rooting for a friend again. Ever.
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Me too
10char
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overthinkingme said:
So damn true. Never rooting for a friend again. Ever.
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That's like the first rule about "mod-club" never mod your friends phone, unless you want to trade him yours when his/hers brakes.
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Tjotte said:
That's like the first rule about "mod-club" never mod your friends phone, unless you want to trade him yours when his/hers brakes.
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Or be his/her tech support forever, even with things not related to the mod you did
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i simply love this line. i would like to place this on my signature but out of respect i'll ask first. may i?
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Go for it, no copyrights, trademarks or patents on it. Might want to double check with apple though. Lol.
teach a man to fish, you feed him for life. teach a man to fastboot, and you create competency. and less threads on xda.
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Or be his/her tech support forever, even with things not related to the mod you did
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So true
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Agreed. Let people figure out root for themselves. ESPECIALLY WIVES AND GIRLFRIENDS.!!
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Like what others said just flash stock 4.0.4 for your wife and leave modding to your phone. I'm running stock and it's fast and stable.
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Sneak a root and turn off super user global notifications. Just like horse back riding without a saddle.
teach a man to fish, you feed him for life. teach a man to fastboot, and you create competency. and less threads on xda.
Stock ICS is just so damn good too. Shes not gonna be getting a bad experience.
Thoughts? I'm thinking we won't get it because of the 768mb of ram.
nyccharlie said:
Thoughts? I'm thinking we won't get it because of the 768mb of ram.
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Aaaahh Sh*te!
nyccharlie said:
Thoughts? I'm thinking we won't get it because of the 768mb of ram.
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source on that?
Bad source information, from what's been discussed in other threads.
Have a look in the HTC Desire HD section and read the hubbub there.
So far as I can see there is no truth to this rumor. Mods are working overtime killing all the threads about it.
-CM7 on DInc2
I doubt we'll be affected since the Incredible S and the Chinese version of our phone already got ICS.
But this is Verizon, so I guess there is a ever so slight possibility of our phone not getting the update.
If this does happen, then..... Well, I'd rather not discuss it.
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here is the source.It is from Telus
phonetool said:
Bad source information, from what's been discussed in other threads.
Have a look in the HTC Desire HD section and read the hubbub there.
So far as I can see there is no truth to this rumor. Mods are working overtime killing all the threads about it.
-CM7 on DInc2
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Anytime now would be a good time then, chaps (looking at Mr. Highway and juzz86)
Give it a proper Viking Burial!!
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here is the source.It is from Telus
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Hold on just a second! oooh... o.o Err.. so now what?
litetaker said:
Anytime now would be a good time then, chaps (looking at Mr. Highway and juzz86)
Give it a proper Viking Burial!!
Hold on just a second! oooh... o.o Err.. so now what?
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I've been running ics for months now...and to be honest...condemned souls version...is pretty much flawless..I haven't had a single issue with it and the camera works too
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Only the Telus version is not receiving the ICS update. The International version is unaffected at this stage.
Source
juzz86 said:
Only the Telus version is not receiving the ICS update. The International version is unaffected at this stage.
Source
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All the more reason for us to get worried. Similar to Telus, it is possible that VZW screws us over and says, sorry, NO OTA ICS for you, just because we couldn't make it work with all our god damn, useless and pointless bloatware... Which no one in the world uses.. Toodles. And oh, therefore no kernel source
litetaker said:
All the more reason for us to get worried. Similar to Telus, it is possible that VZW screws us over and says, sorry, NO OTA ICS for you, just because we couldn't make it work with all our god damn, useless and pointless bloatware... Which no one in the world uses.. Toodles. And oh, therefore no kernel source
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True. I wouldn't put it past Verizon to do exactly that at all.
Verizon - dinc 2 wont get update
Good Guy at HTC- woops, I just clicked the release source button
Yeaaaa
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litetaker said:
Anytime now would be a good time then, chaps (looking at Mr. Highway and juzz86)
Give it a proper Viking Burial!!
Hold on just a second! oooh... o.o Err.. so now what?
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Lol, na you guys are fine. I never have issues with yall. *thank God*
HTC did deny the rumors though, read it last night. Either Android police or android Central said it
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HTC did deny the rumors though, read it last night. Either Android police or android Central said it
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Sad news :
http://blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics/
Read the update, HTC has cancel the update for Desire HD
* After extensive testing, we’ve determined that the current version of HTC Sense with Android provides customers with the best experience on the HTC Desire HD. When we consider new versions of software, we weigh a number of factors, but ultimately the customer experience on the product is the deciding factor. We apologize for any confusion this change may have caused our customers.
So sorry I know this question was probably asked already but I did a search but I couldn't find an answer. I am fairly new to the Galaxy Nexus and i notice jelly bean been out since the summer and we still dont have a release date on it. Love this device its so amazing man and again sorry for asking this question.
When the big red is done testing.
-or do what the cool kids do here-
unlock, fastboot a recovery and flash a JB rom.
good day.
Yep, grab a JB rom and stop the wondering!
chopper the dog said:
When the big red is done testing.
-or do what the cool kids do here-
unlock, fastboot a recovery and flash a JB rom.
good day.
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this is exactly what I am planning to do...I am done waiting for verizon to release the update ....
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chopper the dog said:
When the big red is done testing.
-or do what the cool kids do here-
unlock, fastboot a recovery and flash a JB rom.
good day.
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:laugh: Yea i am thinking about doing this the only problem is I am so terrified that I might brick my phone. I don't understand how is this a pure google phone and we have to wait on Verizon for updates?
mbrown3460 said:
:laugh: Yea i am thinking about doing this the only problem is I am so terrified that I might brick my phone. I don't understand how is this a pure google phone and we have to wait on Verizon for updates?
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It's extremely hard to brick this phone. Read a few guides and you'll be fine
mbrown3460 said:
:laugh: Yea i am thinking about doing this the only problem is I am so terrified that I might brick my phone. I don't understand how is this a pure google phone and we have to wait on Verizon for updates?
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Verizon just wants control, And to make everyone suffer with horrible bloatware.
bOx Stash - https://www.box.com/shared/d8a46b7252c38069deb1
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It's extremely hard to brick this phone. Read a few guides and you'll be fine
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withbloodskies said:
Verizon just wants control, And to make everyone suffer with horrible bloatware.
bOx Stash - https://www.box.com/shared/d8a46b7252c38069deb1
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:good: Well take a dive later today
Verizon need to change the name to Galaxy droid or something lol
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Verizon need to change the name to Galaxy droid or something lol
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Sounds about right.
I have both snail mailed and emailed (directly to the CEO) VZW. No response...and it's been about a month since I mailed their corporate headquarters.
If I were a betting man is say by January... just a guess though. Happy flashing!
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for those looking around for the timetable for JB update here is a link that provides updates daily!!!!!:good:
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entry/Galaxy-S3-JellyBean-CRS
Expected in November? Meh...
All the Asian countries get love first lol
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Thought we was getting it this month....
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Yeah not excited about waiting another whole month for the update. Oh well.
Someone posted this a few weeks ago, at the time it didn't seem very accurate. For example, Germany has been "updating" for around 2 1/2 weeks now. No idea where the info about US variants being expected in November came from.
Lot of comments mention issues as well.
Not trying to bash on the guys work, but just more rumors is all I chalk it up to. I'm personally not putting much faith into any of the rumors. As far as I'm aware, there has still been no reliable source of info to say that it'll be Oct, Nov, or even later. Sure it'll be great if it turns out true, but its all speculation from what I can see.
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Someone posted this a few weeks ago, at the time it didn't seem very accurate. For example, Germany has been "updating" for around 2 1/2 weeks now. No idea where the info about US variants being expected in November came from.
Lot of comments mention issues as well.
Not trying to bash on the guys work, but just more rumors is all I chalk it up to. I'm personally not putting much faith into any of the rumors. As far as I'm aware, there has still been no reliable source of info to say that it'll be Oct, Nov, or even later. Sure it'll be great if it turns out true, but its all speculation from what I can see.
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That's because we're stuck waiting for T-Mo/VZW/Sprint/ATT to "test" the update before we are allowed to get it, everything is done slowly here in the US
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That's because we're stuck waiting for T-Mo/VZW/Sprint/ATT to "test" the update before we are allowed to get it, everything is done slowly here in the US
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if they need testers i can volunteer !!!!! Anything to speed up the process
Omfg really until November for us t-mobile user fk man I really dont want to root if it does not come by the first week of November thats will be it im rooting my phone and tweeking the hell out of it
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is it worth the wait ,i hear its much of an update
CM10.
Hungry now? Why wait..
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Flash slim bean. Call it a day
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Omfg really until November for us t-mobile user fk man I really dont want to root if it does not come by the first week of November thats will be it im rooting my phone and tweeking the hell out of it
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same here will wait till the end of the year and then root thats what i did for my samsung vibrant as well....The phone performance is great so far...so not really a problem as compared to GB!!!!
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is it worth the wait ,i hear its much of an update
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i will wait and see....Good things come to those who wait my friend will wait it out till End of the year!!!
chui84 said:
same here will wait till the end of the year and then root thats what i did for my samsung vibrant as well....The phone performance is great so far...so not really a problem as compared to GB!!!!
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I wasn't going to do anything more than root until I decided I had to have the Google Wallet hack which does not work on LH2. So I shopped around a bit a settled on Wicked V5 (GL1 base) which had some features from JB and others I liked. Then came the big surprise! It is so much faster and smoother than stock UVALEM or LH2! I still can't believe how the devs improved upon what Samsung released to us, which was damn smooth and fast already. I'm not as annoyed by the wait anymore.
chui84 said:
i will wait and see....Good things come to those who wait my friend will wait it out till End of the year!!!
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Rofl u remind me of the 80 yrs old ladies in my neighbourhood
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Rofl u remind me of the 80 yrs old ladies in my neighbourhood
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how sure are you my son that i am not that old!!!!
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how sure are you my son that i am not that old!!!!
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Well your name is Chu---"I" .....84
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Well your name is Chu---"I" .....84
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:laugh::laugh:
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Well your name is Chu---"I" .....84
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Birth YEAR, weight or IQ. :laugh: