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iPhone users reactions to samsung's anti iPhone ads

http://9to5mac.com/2011/12/01/samsung-continues-anti-apple-rant-on-facebook/

Lol that's pretty funny, especially the comments.
I just traded my iPhone 4 (acquired for a month) for the E4GT too, with $20 bucks on top. I can say that while I do miss some stuff that the iPhone did, I'm more satisfied with the EG4T.
Only thing that I don't like about my EG4T is how long it takes to charge up lol.

LOL 9to5mac
That's like a Muslim preaching to a bunch of country bunk Christians in Alabama. Too much koolaid for them to open their caveman minds.

naripsta said:
Lol that's pretty funny, especially the comments.
I just traded my iPhone 4 (acquired for a month) for the E4GT too, with $20 bucks on top. I can say that while I do miss some stuff that the iPhone did, I'm more satisfied with the EG4T.
Only thing that I don't like about my EG4T is how long it takes to charge up lol.
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What did u miss from iphone that sg2 android doesn't have?
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you have to admit, adding the battery specs for the e4gt while not mentioning the iphone's is pretty stupid considering everyone and their mom knows that the iphone destroys any android phone in battery life. they should've just left that bit out all together.

cnstarz said:
you have to admit, adding the battery specs for the e4gt while not mentioning the iphone's is pretty stupid considering everyone and their mom knows that the iphone destroys any android phone in battery life. they should've just left that bit out all together.
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I agree that they should not have had battery life ONLY for their phone. Either have it for both or don't mention it. But I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the Epic matched the 4s in battery. Not only is the 4s battery worse than the 4, the epic actually had good battery life according to the reviews.
But yeah, that's pretty dumb how they did that chart. They also didn't mention resolution of the screens. Only the size (which I do love).

Somebody go tell them Samsung made their screen
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I find it funny that the comments were saying samsung is wrong for making fun of apple but didnt apple do that with the mac vs pc commercials

asqwrd said:
I find it funny that the comments were saying samsung is wrong for making fun of apple but didnt apple do that with the mac vs pc commercials
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Yeah with the kid from die hard lol
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rgregg504 said:
Somebody go tell them Samsung made their screen
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Nah, don't lie to them. It's actually an LG screen.

digweed4me said:
What did u miss from iphone that sg2 android doesn't have?
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It's probably just me not doing it properly through settings, but -
I like the sound/silent switch on the side. I would switch it to silent, and it'd silence everything...period. When I did it with the E4GT at work, some notification still rang even with sound off.
I also like that when you close YouTube and go back, it'd pick up where you left off in iOS5. While with the E4GT, it'd stop loading the video altogether if I were to go to the home screen or to read a txt msg. But I'm still new to this, so there may be ways around this.
Although, I DO like the fact that you can shut off the screen on the E4GT while the YouTube video is playing and just listen to the sounds. (I like to listen to videos...long ones, to help the work day go by)
I suppose that's about it lol... I mean, the iPhone4 was solid, and it was very smooth. But meh, so is my E4GT.

naripsta said:
It's probably just me not doing it properly through settings, but -
I like the sound/silent switch on the side. I would switch it to silent, and it'd silence everything...period. When I did it with the E4GT at work, some notification still rang even with sound off.
I also like that when you close YouTube and go back, it'd pick up where you left off in iOS5. While with the E4GT, it'd stop loading the video altogether if I were to go to the home screen or to read a txt msg. But I'm still new to this, so there may be ways around this.
Although, I DO like the fact that you can shut off the screen on the E4GT while the YouTube video is playing and just listen to the sounds. (I like to listen to videos...long ones, to help the work day go by)
I suppose that's about it lol... I mean, the iPhone4 was solid, and it was very smooth. But meh, so is my E4GT.
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I have no problem with silent mode being silent...but...youtube resume is such a tiny little feature to implement but so god-damned awesome sounding. Why hasn't Google taken care of this? I mean, srsly, with all of the major heavy duty **** they take care of on a day-to-day basis why not this tiny little convenience?
It really does blow my mind how some manufacturers and major software developers (like Samsung and Google) can overlook such simple usability features. It's not like that feature is unique to youtube on iOS....it doesn't take more resources...it isn't complicated.

naripsta said:
I like the sound/silent switch on the side. I would switch it to silent, and it'd silence everything...period. When I did it with the E4GT at work, some notification still rang even with sound off.
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Yes this function on android is HORRIBLE! There are some pluses to having a million different sound controls. Like the ability to silence text messages at night, but leave phone on. But when I'm in the doctor office, or jury duty I want one button to silence EVERYTHING.
I can't remember exactly, but I think ginerbread is when they changed it to its current form.

Man, there are a whole lot of mads up in that comment section.
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digweed4me said:
What did u miss from iphone that sg2 android doesn't have?
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Gapless playback. I know that wasn't directed at me, but I just answered it anyways.
I traded my E4GT for an iPhone 4S. I needed that gapless playback because I work at a venue...Android just wasn't workin out that great.
I do kinda miss that E4GT battery life though... Apple lowballed iPhone users with the 5.x update(s). 5.0 was the best (battery wise) but we can't downgrade back to it...so we're all up the creek. This that bull****.

ms79723 said:
Gapless playback. I know that wasn't directed at me, but I just answered it anyways.
I traded my E4GT for an iPhone 4S. I needed that gapless playback because I work at a venue...Android just wasn't workin out that great.
I do kinda miss that E4GT battery life though... Apple lowballed iPhone users with the 5.x update(s). 5.0 was the best (battery wise) but we can't downgrade back to it...so we're all up the creek. This that bull****.
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You traded the phone because of gapless? Poweramp does gapless.

I can see where some of you guys are going with this. Since the original Iphone not much has changed. Yeah, the body of the phone sorta changed, some internals and a new screen...but the design hasn't. One reason I never went to the Iphone was due to the fact that everything is propriatary...battery non removable, charging port isn't micro usb..instead it's apples propriatary charger and last but not least...Micro SD card expansion...can't do that on an Iphone. The screen size hasnt changed and facetime is only over wifi. I'm glad I went with the ET4G...it does everything and more than I though it would.

E4GT enough said

eagercrow said:
You traded the phone because of gapless? Poweramp does gapless.
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Well gapless + no lag + good stock apps + reliability + better 3G speeds + better music app + other things.
Edit: and these are just my opinions folks. I miss being able to tinker with things...but that tinkering was messing with my time for homework and **** >.<

ms79723 said:
Well gapless + no lag + good stock apps + reliability + better 3G speeds + better music app + other things.
Edit: and these are just my opinions folks. I miss being able to tinker with things...but that tinkering was messing with my time for homework and **** >.<
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I understand most your reasons but the 3g speeds you must be one of the few lucky ones. Did you get the Iphone 4s on Sprint or a different carrier? Because Iphone Sprint 3g speeds were getting a lot of flack from users all around the country. I saw speedtest screen-shots in many blogs and they averaged below 1kbp/s.

Silent/Vib by Long Press on Vol Down

Hey everyone .. I was just thinking back to my Blackberry days (ew) and how much I liked being able to hold down the Volume Down button to initiate Silent/Vib mode. Is there any way to do this? Ideally I would like to be able to do that from the lockscreen too. Any ideas? I only bring it up because I think other people would like this feature too.
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Juggernaut ROM has a lockscreen where you can slide the other side for vibration. Also the notification toggles has this also. It really isn't needed outside of that.
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Well I'm using the new ICS style lockscreen so it doesn't have the sliders. Maybe its not something people would like *shrug*
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If you hold vol down it does go to silent and vibrate..? Not from the lock screen but it does it.
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chlehqls said:
Juggernaut ROM has a lockscreen where you can slide the other side for vibration. Also the notification toggles has this also. It really isn't needed outside of that.
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Guess I'm just in a testy mood today but why do people say things "aren't needed"? Android phones aren't "needed", but we want them, and we want them to function in a certain way, that's why we're on XDA after all right? Kudos for giving the alternative methods but I, like the OP, would much rather be able to use the physical buttons (while in the lock screen especially so I could silence the phone without even looking at it) to turn the phone to vibrate. That way, I can use my lock screen and toggle space that WOULD'VE been taken up by volume controls, to launch other things.

thecolorifix said:
Guess I'm just in a testy mood today but why do people say things "aren't needed"? Android phones aren't "needed", but we want them, and we want them to function in a certain way, that's why we're on XDA after all right? Kudos for giving the alternative methods but I, like the OP, would much rather be able to use the physical buttons (while in the lock screen especially so I could silence the phone without even looking at it) to turn the phone to vibrate. That way, I can use my lock screen and toggle space that WOULD'VE been taken up by volume controls, to launch other things.
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It really isn't needed if you think about it. There are 3 current methods in which you can silence your phone, I think we should focus our want into something much more productive and innovative since if we continue down this path, it's going to contribute to a cycle of redundancy.
I agree that it's the "wants" that makes this place great, but it's not like we're crippled to have only one way to silence our phones after all. One man's inconvenience is another one's convenience. I don't want certain features since it may break other features that I really liked which may result in some sort of compromise. We have different wants and objectives with our own phones, which is great, but don't try to confuse what you're trying to get out of your phone with what I am trying to get out with mine.

chlehqls said:
It really isn't needed if you think about it. There are 3 current methods in which you can silence your phone, I think we should focus our want into something much more productive and innovative since if we continue down this path, it's going to contribute to a cycle of redundancy.
I agree that it's the "wants" that makes this place great, but it's not like we're crippled to have only one way to silence our phones after all. One man's inconvenience is another one's convenience. I don't want certain features since it may break other features that I really liked which may result in some sort of compromise. We have different wants and objectives with our own phones, which is great, but don't try to confuse what you're trying to get out of your phone with what I am trying to get out with mine.
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There's absolutely no reason my want has to break any other features or mean any sort of compromise. Also you didn't even address the user case I presented in which vol down to vibrate is still the quickest, and most discreet method. Nobody's confusing what we want out of our respective phones (what does that even mean?). And no, we're not crippled by not having that feature, but nobody said we were. But my original point stands, it's counter productive and a bit condescending to tell someone else what they should or shouldn't want. If you have alternatives to offer, awesome but why bother saying "you shouldn't want this".
As for the actual topic, it definitely seems like this is less prevalent, on my G1 and MyTouch3G I used a bunch of ROMs with it baked in.
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thecolorifix said:
There's absolutely no reason my want has to break any other features or mean any sort of compromise. Also you didn't even address the user case I presented in which vol down to vibrate is still the quickest, and most discreet method. Nobody's confusing what we want out of our respective phones (what does that even mean?). And no, we're not crippled by not having that feature, but nobody said we were. But my original point stands, it's counter productive and a bit condescending to tell someone else what they should or shouldn't want. If you have alternatives to offer, awesome but why bother saying "you shouldn't want this".
As for the actual topic, it definitely seems like this is less prevalent, on my G1 and MyTouch3G I used a bunch of ROMs with it baked in.
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I hear you and would be in interested in such a function.
Silent mode, along with music play/stop and screen wakeup are the three most oft used features in my book

thecolorifix said:
There's absolutely no reason my want has to break any other features or mean any sort of compromise. Also you didn't even address the user case I presented in which vol down to vibrate is still the quickest, and most discreet method. Nobody's confusing what we want out of our respective phones (what does that even mean?). And no, we're not crippled by not having that feature, but nobody said we were. But my original point stands, it's counter productive and a bit condescending to tell someone else what they should or shouldn't want. If you have alternatives to offer, awesome but why bother saying "you shouldn't want this".
As for the actual topic, it definitely seems like this is less prevalent, on my G1 and MyTouch3G I used a bunch of ROMs with it baked in.
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I think the user would have a faster time swiping across their lockscreen to silence their phones, since the method you mentioned would require one or two hands, with one button press to bring up the lockscreen, the other to button press to hold down the vol toggles. I still think my proposed method is much more efficient in terms of bringing up the lockscreen to silence.
This is all completely my opinion, and If I came out condescending, that was NOT my intention. In a way, I think we're past arguing about adding in features to arguing more on wants and needs which I'm not against at all. I'm more or less against adding in extra features that in a way isn't really revolutionary or anything new for this phone. I honestly think it's counter productive to ask developers for extra small features that already has it in a different way, instead of opting for bigger features, and in this case with Juggernaut 5.0, ICS lockscreen with music widget, which is huge. And again, this comes back to the perspective we have for our phones, which most want the bigger piece of the pie (ICS lockscreen, toggle rearrangement, etc) while others may want more smaller features added in for their specific niche.
Also, would it have been better if I put "I honestly think..." in the last sentence of my first post? I believe that the way the first post I posted did sound a bit presumptuous and snobby, which you were right to point out. Again, that was not my intention.
I don't want to derail this thread with any of our differences so PM if you any further qualms. And all things considered, I think we just violently agree for the most part and disagree on why specific features should be implemented.

Things you don't like about the Galaxy Note II T889

Here is what I don't like:
1. When you wake up the phone from sleep there is a noticeable delay.
2. After you hang up the phone, there is a delay of about 3-4 seconds before you are brought back to the dialer.. Until then you're just shown the "Call ended.." message. Thats quite annoying because you have to wait another 3-4 seconds before re-dialing.
3. MTP.. I have never gotten it to work on this phone. After downloading the official Galaxy Note II drivers from samsungs website all I ever get is "Hardware missing" or something like that. I really miss the plain old USB Mass Storage.
4. When you bring the phone to your ear the screen turns black, (thats good), but after you take it back down to see the screen, there's a gap of about 2 seconds before it turns back on. very annoying.
So these are the 4 things I have noticed that I don't like.

Kinda SLIPPERY

JoJo2211 said:
Here is what I don't like:
2. After you hang up the phone, there is a delay of about 3-4 seconds before you are brought back to the dialer.. Until then you're just shown the "Call ended.." message. Thats quite annoying because you have to wait another 3-4 seconds before re-dialing.
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I think if you press the back button or home button to go back to whichever screen you need, it works based on my experience.
Like if i just ended a call, pressing the home button takes me home right away without any delay.

mitchillen said:
I think if you press the back button or home button to go back to whichever screen you need, it works based on my experience.
Like if i just ended a call, pressing the home button takes me home right away without any delay.
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What if you wanted to redial? Try it. You can't get back to the dialer without waiting 3 seconds.

rlee008 said:
Kinda SLIPPERY
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Yeah. I liked the textured back on the black galaxy note 1.

JoJo2211 said:
Here is what I don't like:
1. When you wake up the phone from sleep there is a noticeable delay.
2. After you hang up the phone, there is a delay of about 3-4 seconds before you are brought back to the dialer.. Until then you're just shown the "Call ended.." message. Thats quite annoying because you have to wait another 3-4 seconds before re-dialing.
3. MTP.. I have never gotten it to work on this phone. After downloading the official Galaxy Note II drivers from samsungs website all I ever get is "Hardware missing" or something like that. I really miss the plain old USB Mass Storage.
4. When you bring the phone to your ear the screen turns black, (thats good), but after you take it back down to see the screen, there's a gap of about 2 seconds before it turns back on. very annoying.
So these are the 4 things I have noticed that I don't like.
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You are complaining about common problems on different phones.
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I hate how you have to press home to go back to the home screen after an end call. I want it to go direct to the home screen after a call ends. I had to install an app for that: "On Call End". Works great.

sico987 said:
You are complaining about common problems on different phones.
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I don't think he is complaining, more just expressing his thoughts.
If they are common problems on different phones then that means exactly that, different phones. Not all phones. I'm not trying to be rude but I think all the OP was trying to say is that the four things he listed kinda bothers him, nothing more, nothing less.

fandroid93 said:
I don't think he is complaining, more just expressing his thoughts.
If they are common problems on different phones then that means exactly that, different phones. Not all phones. I'm not trying to be rude but I think all the OP was trying to say is that the four things he listed kinda bothers him, nothing more, nothing less.
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Wow OP, you are one spoiled person. All the problems you listed are way too minor to annoy a normal human being.
Download Flipboard and read the news, see how not having food to eat is annoying the rest of the world.
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EvoYas said:
Wow OP, you are one spoiled person. All the problems you listed are way too minor to annoy a normal human being.
Download Flipboard and read the news, see how not having food to eat is annoying the rest of the world.
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You do realize you're on a cellphone forum and not cnn right?
Hey everyone...stop talking about...well...anything! because other people have problems and therefore yours are no longer valid.
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Haha good one. Sadly its true and in a country like america we have forgotten what it is to be hungry
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The biggest complain I have with the Note 2 is the stylus not able to control the menu and back buttons.

I agree with you, that is the most annoying thing about this phone by far. It's one of the biggest reasons I don't use the stylus me consistently. Great point.
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EvoYas said:
Wow OP, you are one spoiled person. All the problems you listed are way too minor to annoy a normal human being.
Download Flipboard and read the news, see how not having food to eat is annoying the rest of the world.
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While I do agree that these problems may be minor: With all due respect, this is a website about mobile devices and development, and this thread is specifically for the issues regarding the user experience of the T-mobile Note 2.
There is nothing to say that the OP did not start a blog for starving families in third world countries on an appropriate website, or that he lacks common sense and or compassion towards major economic problems. . . as is implied by your remark.
Furthermore, problems must be addressed, not ignored. Many minor problems compounded can become a major one, eroding away the cumulative ease of use and overall responsiveness of the user experience.
Many people like myself regard our phones as valuable business tools rather than toys. It is important to have a high performance tool to efficaciously compete in today's "hi-tech" market.

Getting edge only speeds when using it unlocked on AT&T :banghead: yeah theres so little flaws I had to blame something it cant control .... yet.
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I didn't like that it sometimes didn't want to charge as A/C...even though it was plugged in the wall it thought it was charging through USB which took for ever. Changed the USB cable and it seems to be working good now. So I had 1 thing I didn't like...not anymore! There's nothing I don't like about this phone! Ha!
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EvoYas said:
Wow OP, you are one spoiled person. All the problems you listed are way too minor to annoy a normal human being.
Download Flipboard and read the news, see how not having food to eat is annoying the rest of the world.
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Excuse me? Yes, we live in America and can afford nice things. That said, if we are spending $300, or as much as $700 or $800 off contract, we expect these products to continue to improve over time. The intent of this thread was clearly a constructive one. Developers can't know what we want improved if we do not voice our opinions. Get off your moral high horse.

I think the white is too warm or dirty in my taste.
Other than that, I have no complaint.

ryancox1036 said:
Excuse me? Yes, we live in America and can afford nice things. That said, if we are spending $300, or as much as $700 or $800 off contract, we expect these products to continue to improve over time. The intent of this thread was clearly a constructive one. Developers can't know what we want improved if we do not voice our opinions. Get off your moral high horse.
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Don't even bother, it's not even worth your time.
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[Q] New nexus 7 and an always on mic

I am just curious if any one think there is any chance it will have the feature that the moto x does with the always on mic.
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I dont think this feature would be nearly as useful as on a mobile phone.

I think the mic is always on because of Google Now and the ability to do voice commands at will.
Honestly I can see the benefits but if you are too lazy to pretty a button then its pretty sad. I'd rather see a dedicated voice button then always on mic. Not only for security but also because if it is always on, then it is always processing. Seems like a waste of resources 99% of the time.
Just grab a Bluetooth headset and press the button on the unit, and it will ask for a command. At least mine does.
Plus what's next? Always on video? A Google employee moving into my house? Cats and dogs, living together?
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Requills said:
I dont think this feature would be nearly as useful as on a mobile phone.
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It wouldn't be but....... Still nice to have.
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JustusIV said:
I am just curious if any one think there is any chance it will have the feature that the moto x does with the always on mic.
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I dont think so, it might be a moto x only feature.

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Honestly I can see the benefits but if you are too lazy to pretty a button then its pretty sad.
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That has to be the stupidest thing i have heard someone say.
Does your TV have a remote. What are you lazy to walk to your TV?
Its an evolution of technology. Why should i have to touch it when i could NOT touch it.
I am not huge on voice controls because if i am already touching my device i would rather just do it with my finger.
If i don't have to even look at my phone to send a message or skip a song then why would I.

JustusIV said:
That has to be the stupidest thing i have heard someone say.
Does your TV have a remote. What are you lazy to walk to your TV?
Its an evolution of technology. Why should i have to touch it when i could NOT touch it.
I am not huge on voice controls because if i am already touching my device i would rather just do it with my finger.
If i don't have to even look at my phone to send a message or skip a song then why would I.
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ROFL
Even Star Trek's communicators on their shirts have to be pressed. And Star Trek knows the future better then we do. Nuff said.
Btw I'm only half serious.
Something like Google Glass, I understand IF it was paired to YOUR VOICE. But a phone...? It doesn't need to be listening every second just to grab 1 or 2 commands. Have you ever tried using Google Now in a noisy environment. I can only see my phone grabbing all sorts of random commands and doing random acts. Pass on that.
Even Google Glass reviews show it picking up commands from others and screwing things up.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/14/fred-armisen-google-glass/
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"Learning exactly what you can and can't say to Glass takes some time, and I struggled to teach him the commands because the headset was constantly listening to me, sitting next to him."
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Looks like all the new droids released today got the feature so. Obviously I am not the only one that thinks it's a required step for voice commands. Also in star trek while the touched their communicators didn't they just talk to the computers?
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player911 said:
I think the mic is always on because of Google Now and the ability to do voice commands at will.
Honestly I can see the benefits but if you are too lazy to pretty a button then its pretty sad. I'd rather see a dedicated voice button then always on mic. Not only for security but also because if it is always on, then it is always processing. Seems like a waste of resources 99% of the time.
Just grab a Bluetooth headset and press the button on the unit, and it will ask for a command. At least mine does.
Plus what's next? Always on video? A Google employee moving into my house? Cats and dogs, living together?
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In my house,cats and dogs are living together.
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I was under the impression the always on mic was powered by different hardware specs ie: the super low voltage battery when sleeping and a low power mic. Seems like this will be hard to implement for many devices without these hardware features.

I think always on mic is a moto thing, dealing with their custom made snapdragon aka "motorola x8 computing system", has a whole core dedicated to it, and another dedicated to gestures. I think current devices could do it fine, but battery life would suffer without motorolas software and hardware tweaks.
Of course I don't really know, that's just my guess. Guess we'll all find out next week
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Cor-master said:
I think always on mic is a moto thing, dealing with their custom made snapdragon aka "motorola x8 computing system", has a whole core dedicated to it, and another dedicated to gestures. I think current devices could do it fine, but battery life would suffer without motorolas software and hardware tweaks.
Of course I don't really know, that's just my guess. Guess we'll all find out next week
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I have my new Nexus 7 in hand. I am pretty sure that is a moto only feature but i bet we see all the big players picking it up in the future.

The always on MIC is monitored by a dedicated low power core on the Moto X. N7 doesn't have that chip.

NFC Ring - anyone got one?

I've been waiting so long for the NFC Rings to go on sale and now you can pre-order them: http://store.nfcring.com/
Anyone got one already, from the Kickstarter batch? Is it easy to use/worth getting, or is it just fiddly and a pain in the backside?
EDIT: Oh yeah, does it work through a case? I have Diztronic TPU case. If it don't work through that then I won't be interested.

Wow that's a pretty cool idea. I'd imagine it would work through a case. I use android beam between my phone and tablet and they both have cases on them.
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haha, a nice idea for who like wear something on their fingers, but it works so awful.

x111 said:
*video*
haha, nice idea for who like wear something on their fingers, but it works so awful.
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Hahah, that's hilarious.
tap, tap, tap, tap..... tap, tap, tap, tap
"Screw it, I'll use the unlock code!"

To decrease battery usage, I switch off BT and NFC. Everytime I have to use this ring, I have to unlock the phone and switch on the NFC and then find the sweet spot. No thanks, sir.

I backed it when I thought it was a novel idea. Now not so much lol. I already gave him my funds, so it's just like a expensive nfc tag lol. I don't have it yet though. I think it's shipping soon.

why not just use the powerbutton LOLOL

This seems kind of pointless to me.

I ordered both the regular ring and the alpha ring through the kickstarter, once they arrive I'll let you know how they work on the nexus 5.
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i think it's only good for NFC doors and sharing contacts, not worth it to use it to unlock phones

I think it's a great idea! It's like 2-factor authentication. Just tap the back of your phone. NFC draws VERY little power when on. I wonder if it could power on the phone as well as unlock it in one fell swoop. That would be even better.

floepie said:
I think it's a great idea! It's like 2-factor authentication. Just tap the back of your phone. NFC draws VERY little power when on. I wonder if it could power on the phone as well as unlock it in one fell swoop. That would be even better.
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No I don't think it can. All the vids I have seen, the devices has the screen on to be used.

kpjimmy said:
No I don't think it can. All the vids I have seen, the devices has the screen on to be used.
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The screen does have to be on and device unlocked for NFC to be used. It's a security thing. There are custom Kernels that allow NFC to be used without unlocking the device. Don't remember if it allowed use with screen off.

I have my current ROM (Mahdi-ROM) set to power on the screen when I take it out of my pocket anyway, so that wouldn't really be a problem for me.
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setspeed said:
I have my current ROM (Mahdi-ROM) set to power on the screen when I take it out of my pocket anyway, so that wouldn't really be a problem for me.
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Wha? How does that work, with the light sensor? Or by motion? Sorry for OT.
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floepie said:
Wha? How does that work, with the light sensor? Or by motion? Sorry for OT.
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Motion sensor I assume. It freaked me out the first few times it happened because I didn't know it was an option in the ROM, and I thought my phone had been awake in my pocket. But upon digging through the settings, there is one under Lockscreen > Lockscreen Notifications called Pocket Mode You can set it to always wake the screen whenever you take it out of your pocket, or only wake if there are new notifications. Also it goes back to sleep when you put it in your pocket again. It's pretty dope.

Ohgami_Ichiro said:
The screen does have to be on and device unlocked for NFC to be used. It's a security thing. There are custom Kernels that allow NFC to be used without unlocking the device. Don't remember if it allowed use with screen off.
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Using NFC LockScreenOff Enabler and Omni ROM. Using NFC tags to unlock my device even when the phone is locked and in standby mode (screen is off).

ritzxda said:
Using NFC LockScreenOff Enabler and Omni ROM. Using NFC tags to unlock my device even when the phone is locked and in standby mode (screen is off).
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Are you using the xposed module or is it baked into the rom?

Hey guys, I'm the creator of the NFC Ring, thought I'd just jump on to say thanks for all the comments.
I'd agree with most of your points, you wil find your own use for your NFC Ring, it might not be unlocking your phone for example.. We actually provide all of our source code on github so you can build your own apps on the back of the NFC Ring..
We don't want to box people into specific use cases, we just provide a few example ones to get hackers started with the possibilities.
Just to answer some criticisms directly:
1) It's just two NFC tags on a ring. Pretty much but the amount of R&D that goes into doing that well is actually a lot, RFID and metal don't play well together and we have to build our own antennas specifically for this use case.
2) RE Derek's video, yea he had an initial poor first experience, we ship both a classic and alpha size ring, the alphas sweet spot is larger which makes it more useful for when you can't see the phones sweet spot. After conversations with Derek (read the comments) he does mention he didn't spend any time with the ring before doing a demo and we do encourage people to get used to using the ring. It takes a few days but this is new technology so there is an inherent learning curve..
Overall I'm really proud of what we made with the NFC Ring, it's been a lot of work and we have been completely open about everything and shared everything from day one. We're shipping another 1,000 rings tomorrow and I'm really excited to see what folks hack together. Our job now is to support anyone who wants to build something with their ring, whatever that may be..
If you do wanna engage with the NFC Ring community perhaps nudge some of the community members to jump over here and share their thoughts
We're still a small community but our goals are big Why would you want to keep those pesky unsecure keys that scratch your phone?! That's really what we're at war with..
Thanks again guys, every bit of support really helps and even if we're not the company that provides your NFC Ring I hope we were the ones to at least kickstart things in the right direction with sharing and open-source at the core.