Network Vision and 1xRTT - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

So I noticed in downtown Milwaukee that I was stuck on 1x, but had full bars (on the sprint network). For fun I did a speed test, and was floored... 70KB (yes, bytes, not bits) down, 45KB up. I will upload a screenshot later when I can get to a PC.
I thought our phones wouldn't be able to take advantage of the upgraded data capacity of 1x?
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That's what 1x is... It's far, far slower than 3G.

Yeah that's 2G lol
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Dalmus said:
So I noticed in downtown Milwaukee that I was stuck on 1x, but had full bars (on the sprint network). For fun I did a speed test, and was floored... 70KB (yes, bytes, not bits) down, 45KB up. I will upload a screenshot later when I can get to a PC.
I thought our phones wouldn't be able to take advantage of the upgraded data capacity of 1x?
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1x can't do 70KBytes/45KBytes
How are you determining your are on a 1xRTT connection?

sfhub said:
1x can't do 70KBytes/45KBytes
How are you determining your are on a 1xRTT connection?
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The network icon in the status bar indicated 1x... I didn't believe it, so I checked Netmonitor (confirmed) and also did SpeedTest... See the screenshot of the details of the test.
Either funky things are happening with 1x, or my radio is reporting the wrong connection type. Although I know they are upgrading the 1x network somehow to accommodate the extra traffic Direct Connect is bringing... But as far as I know, the theoretical max of 1x is about 18KB.
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Dalmus said:
The network icon in the status bar indicated 1x... I didn't believe it, so I checked Netmonitor (confirmed) and also did SpeedTest... See the screenshot of the details of the test.
Either funky things are happening with 1x, or my radio is reporting the wrong connection type. Although I know they are upgrading the 1x network somehow to accommodate the extra traffic Direct Connect is bringing... But as far as I know, the theoretical max of 1x is about 18KB.
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With those ping times I can almost guarantee you are not on 1xRTT. Your data rates are even beyond the revised 1xRTT rates.
I am surprised they put the 1x notification back. Previous releases always said 3G regardless of whether you are on 1x or EVDO (on multiple sprint high-end phones)
What does ##DEBUG# say about your data connection?
When it asks for your lock code enter 777468 (SPRINT) (the equivalent #s from a phone dial pad)
BTW what is that 3rd notification icon (from the left) signifying?

Next time out drops to 1x, I'll check out debug and post here.
I'm running Calk's last gingerbread ROM. He has the 1x / 3g fix baked in. Until the last two weeks, I never noticed high speeds when it indicated 1x, but of course it's possible something on the code is reading the state wrong.
That third icon is the standard Android notification letting Mr know there is an open wifi signal.
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Dalmus said:
Next time out drops to 1x, I'll check out debug and post here.
I'm running Calk's last gingerbread ROM. He has the 1x / 3g fix baked in. Until the last two weeks, I never noticed high speeds when it indicated 1x, but of course it's possible something on the code is reading the state wrong.
That third icon is the standard Android notification letting Mr know there is an open wifi signal.
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I missed you were on GB, answering so many ICS questions today.
For ##DEBUG# on GB, enter your MSL which you can get using "getprop ril.MSL" in adb shell

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T-mobile Orange share on a root?

Hi all,
I'm running neo's latest 7.9 fully rooted etc. I've tried to take advantage of the fact that in the uk you're supposed to be able to use both tmobile and orange networks. Despite doing everything you're supposed to including running all steps via CS my sim card wont register on tmobile.
My question is, is this anything to do with de-branding or rooting?
Any help appreciated
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I don't see how it would. I'm rooted and debranded yet mine works. It just takes a while for it to work. When did you register it? And I don't think this is really 'development' by the way.
I was originally on T-Mobile, followed the steps and had all of the text messages (took around 24hrs for all of them to come through).
I had noticed that I was still getting around the same signal, which was weird as I practically sit next to an Orange transmitter.
Then I noticed I had to change my provider in the phone's settings from 't-mobile' to 't-mobile orange' and *wham* full strength.
Sorry - can't say from Orange to Orange/T-mobile.
pphillips001 said:
I was originally on T-Mobile, followed the steps and had all of the text messages (took around 24hrs for all of them to come through).
I had noticed that I was still getting around the same signal, which was weird as I practically sit next to an Orange transmitter.
Then I noticed I had to change my provider in the phone's settings from 't-mobile' to 't-mobile orange' and *wham* full strength.
Sorry - can't say from Orange to Orange/T-mobile.
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I dont have that on my settings.
I have the usual single operator list. Maybe it will take 24 hours but I got the texts to confirm its been set up almost instantly.
pphillips001 said:
I was originally on T-Mobile, followed the steps and had all of the text messages (took around 24hrs for all of them to come through).
I had noticed that I was still getting around the same signal, which was weird as I practically sit next to an Orange transmitter.
Then I noticed I had to change my provider in the phone's settings from 't-mobile' to 't-mobile orange' and *wham* full strength.
Sorry - can't say from Orange to Orange/T-mobile.
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I did this a few weeks ago and I didn't think it had made any difference whatsoever. Signal keeps dropping out for no reason, 3g is rubbish. Then just a few days ago I had a text come through "congratulating" me on connecting to T-Mobile for the first time, so I guess it is working.
I don't have any T-Mobile Orange option to choose though? Also, the Orange signal still seems to be cutting out. I'm considering ringing them up and telling them that they're in breach of contract and I'm terminating it because they can't provide the service they agreed to give me. Might shake them up a bit.
Have you tried turning on your data roaming in mobile network settings? It said something about it when I did it earlier on today and mine started working a minute after I'd text YES.
works fine for me. i'm running leedroid 2.2a and works perfectly. I now get full signal in my cellar where my signal used to cut out and my phone displays T-mobile (orange) T-mobile in the notification bar. the signal kicks in depended on the strength of the other carriers signal.
phono
EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE that what theyre calling it ... more like Some more in some places to be honest but...
download PHONO from android market..
it shows a great logo for each connected network and you roaming status.
and then providing you did the activation setup orange asked you to do - and you select roaming - it all works perfecly...
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http://techeld.com/2010/10/11/more-in-some-places-2/
You guys know you're not supposed to "Choose" anything?
Infact, the only setting you should change is to allow Data while roaming (Roaming should already be enabled).
If you're on T-Mobile, it wont switch to Orange if the Orange signal is stronger than the T-Mobile one and vice-versa, this isn't coming until early 2011.
What it will do however is, if you drop your signal completely on 1 network and there is signal on the other network, you will roam on the other network until the phone can regain connectivity on the home network.
Moved to Q&A as not development.

Evo on Alltel NO 1X ?? 3G Works

I have used the latest licensed copy of CDMA workshop to change the SPC to 000000 on this Evo and set the NAM1 and EVDO settings EXACTLY identical to an Alltel flashed and branded HTC Hero, of course the usernames have been changed to my cell number... Has exact same PRL, everything.
I have rooted and it's running stock latest 2.2 sense rom.
It's up and working correctly on alltel's network, 5 Bars of 3G service but it says I am roaming, the Alltel branded Hero I have here is NOT roaming and is activated on a different cell number on the same alltel account in the family plan.
I re-read and re-wrote all the values in cdma workshop and re-compared everything to the hero, it's still roaming, tried *228'ing and updating PRL, updates correctly but... alltel pushes the same exact PRL 31005 that I originally programmed to it. This is the same PRL running on the stock alltel hero, evo still says it is roaming.
When I force the phone to CDMA only, I get nothing but "data call failure" messages and 1X will not work, 1X logo doesn't even show up on the status bar, when I have it in automatic mode (1x/3G) and I leave a 3G zone, where I know 1X works, the EVO will not connect to 1x, just keeps throwing "data call failure" messages at me. When it's connected to 3G it doesn't give me a problem at all, 3G works flawlessly in all apps until I try using wifi tether I get data call failure again, pdanet works perfectly with 3G though when tethered. 3G does not drop either, works perfectly. In ##DEBUG EVDO it shows Authenticated, I'd like 1X to work because not everywhere I go has 3G coverage and these data call failure errors are every 10 seconds when im not in a 3G zone.
What's the deal here? My last htc android phone (eris) that I flashed to alltel worked perfect, 1x and 3g switched when needed without issues. I have gotten rid of ALL sprint apk's in the system/app. Is there any other apps that are forcing the phone to try to 1x connect to sprint's network? Profile 0 and profile 1 on my programming are all set to alltel's data values.
Thanks for any help.
Ok Steve I guess I will illustrate this time what I have done so maybe this can help. I don't know what your area is like in regards to VZW or Sprint coverage, but I have found that the Evo does not like the Alltel PRL. I understand you used the identical prl when doing the Eris with no issues and I did the same with the HTC DInc but it's not the same game this time. The phone will say it is roaming even if you have your home SID set properly for your "correct" Alltel PRL. So here goes:
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[Q] 4G WiMax Frequencies (Possible Coverage/Signal Enhancement/Expansion)

This goes all the way back to my days with my EVO 4G.
I remember over a year ago someone on XDA mentioning that Clearwire's/Sprint's WiMax operates on frequencies other than 2.5 - 2.6Ghz, which are the frequencies our phones' radios are set to.
This person mentioned in some areas there were WiMax towers running anywhere between 2.2 - 2.7Ghz and if we could change the WiMax center frequencies on the EVO's radio, we could take advantage of possibly better coverage, better signal, better speeds, etc.
Unfortunately, on the EVO there didn't seem to be a way to change the center frequencies for the WiMax radio BUT it appears that on our phone (E4GT) there's a very easy way to change the WiMax radio's center frequencies! I stumbled upon it while looking at my WiMax settings.
Here's how you get to the WiMax frequency settings:
For those who don't know how to reach their 4G/WiMax settings, here's how you do this: (no, you don't need to be rooted)
1. Go to your phone's dialpad
2. Enter ##3282#
3. Tap on "View"
4. Tap on "WiMax"
5. Enter your MSL code (here's how to get your MSL without calling Sprint for it)
6. Tap the second menu item, "MRU"
7. Press and hold on either of the two settings until the option comes up to delete or edit them
What it looks like:
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I'm a 4G area (Miami) but I have to go outdoors to get signal as it doesn't seem to penetrate the walls of my place. If we can safely expand our center frequencies to improve our coverage and speed, that would be game-changer for people who might be on the outskirts of 4G WiMax coverage or in an unofficial 4G WiMax area.
I'm obviously a little hesitant to change the frequencies without knowing exactly what frequencies it'd be safe for me to change it to but I'm willing to try with a little guidance. Onto my question: Does anyone here have experience with WiMax frequencies and/or Clearwire's exact WiMax frequency range and is willing to give me a nudge in the right direction?
I was already in the cdma editting screen at sprints mru setting when I came across this post. I, too, am testing out the wimax and other cdma settings, but for different reasons.
Nevertheless, I will change the frequencies for you and tell you my results. Check back later to see them.
Wireless spectrum is highly regulated. Sprint (clearwire technically) currently owns licenses to use the 2.5GHz band for WIMAX. The max allowed range would be 2.5GHz to 2.69GHz. Sprint will not be broadcasting WIMAX on any other frequency as it would be a federal offense (FCC regulates all spectrum). So by changing your phone's frequencies, you will not get better WIMAX. Here is a list of all allocated Spectrum uses (can't link it yet, so add h t t p : / / (no spaces):
reboot.fcc.gov/spectrumdashboard/searchSpectrum.seam?conversationId=46379
So, changing the phone's frequency would cause it to get interference from devices such as cordless phones (2.4GHz), amateur radios, local television stations, etc. Your phone will not know how to use those and will cause weird things to happen. Not to mention changing this type of setting may cause damage to your phone.
how can i get into MRU setting,
i have done what you write,
##3282#
will show VIEW MODE or EDIT MODE
i choose EDIT MODE, and put my MSL,
and after that i can't find MRU setting, it's just DATA PROFILE, EVDO, ADVANVCE, WIMAX, USB CHARGING,
where can i find MRU settinh ?
in my country, wimax freq is 2362500, 2367500, 2372500
I'm curious about this as well. The Clearwire map shows that my area is completely covered, yet I'm hardly ever able to connect to 4g even when outside.

1x, even with roaming set to "Sprint Only"

Quite often my phone will switch to 1x while driving through the city. I set "Settings > Wireless and network > Roaming > Roaming mode" to Sprint Only in hopes that it would enforce 3G but it still occasionally jumps to 1x:
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Toggle the airplane mode and viola, 3G is back:
I got a cell phone amplifier with a cradle so why does it still switch to 1x even if I'm literally standing right under the cell tower? How do you force 3G-only? I'd rather get no signal than 1x, which will be nearly impossible inside the city with my setup
Thanks for the help!
EDIT: "Sprint Only" setting is for roaming only. To force 3G set "##DEBUG# > enter MSL > Others > HDR/1X Selection" to "EVDO only"... this will force 3G but also will stop SMS from being sent/received. seems like SMS are being sent over 1xRTT regardless what radio you're on.
According to your signature, you have a gsm galaxy s2?
If not, what modem are you running? I noticed lately that my phone would drop to 1x and not go back to 3g (I'm running the EL29 modem) . I got pissed and flashed the EL26 and it's behaving itself for now. 1x isn't necessarily roaming, that's, for a lack of a better term, 2g.
oscarthegrouch said:
According to your signature, you have a gsm galaxy s2?
If not, what modem are you running? I noticed lately that my phone would drop to 1x and not go back to 3g (I'm running the EL29 modem) . I got pissed and flashed the EL26 and it's behaving itself for now. 1x isn't necessarily roaming, that's, for a lack of a better term, 2g.
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I always run same modem version as the kernel, EL29. Guess I'll give EL26 another shot
ps: CDMA SGS2, aka Sprint's Epic 4G Touch... thus me posting in this forum
1x doesn't only happen when roaming, so roaming settings won't help it
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Whats weird about your problem is that I had the same issue at work constantly switching back and forth from 1x to 3g. Then my screen on that phone got cracked, got a new one through insurance. This new phone never goes to 1x at work, always on 3g. Also running blazer ROM that lets you know if your on 1x or 3g. So it led me to conclude no phone is built the same, and this phone must have a stronger signal somehow.
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globen said:
no phone is built the same, and this phone must have a stronger signal somehow.
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Could you do ##RTN# > View and post your PCB Version here? Mine is UnknownSMDK210.000c
Just wondering if there are different versions of this phone.
Wizard Knight said:
1x doesn't only happen when roaming, so roaming settings won't help it
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That's what I thought too. From my experience setting it to Sprint Only actually did stop the phone from dropping to 1x so that led me to believe that they really were related.
There ya go
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Just showing 1x does not indicate roaming, just means your phone is not connected to 3G bot to the slower 1xrtt Sprint network (for lack of a better word, 2G).
Showing 1x with a little triangle on the signal meter "indicates" roaming.
Sprint uses 1x for SMS(& secondary data), so if you want forced 3G only(there is a dialer menu that you can go to select that), you will not receive your SMS's, so just an FYI. But the reason you see 1x so often is because the radio on the Epic 4G Touch is crap, I've never seen a radio that has this many issues, random switching to 1x, data throughput issues, connection issues, etc(But then again, I've only had 1 Samsung before and it was for only 2 months)
^
said dialer menu is ##DEBUG# > enter MSL > Others > HDR/1X Selection
set to EVDO only mode.
I would leave it on automatic. Flash PRL 11115. You've tried updating data profile? you havent messed with roam control by any chance have you? if you id say maybe open the app and make sure you have it set to automatic in there as well. other than than.. perhaps theres been a bad flash along the way.. maybe do a lil odin reflashing back to stock and start fresh?
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Flash PRL 11115.
You've tried updating data profile?
you havent messed with roam control by any chance have you?
perhaps theres been a bad flash along the way.. maybe do a lil odin reflashing back to stock and start fresh?
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yeah, last night i completely reflashed everything, ever went as far as formatting both internal and external sdcard. everything is now pretty much brand spankin new havent tried updating the data profile nor the prl. I'll flash 11115 / update profile and see how far that takes me. i'll give roam control a shot while at it as well.
thanks all for the feedback. agree with calkulin that this phone is mindblowing horrible when it comes to radios. even my old Touch Pro got better signal and better data... but then again, back then nobody used data for anything so sprint's data network was like a ghost town
I've been using 1115 and roam control for the past two weeks. This almost always means verizon in my area. I get better call reception but little, if any, improvement in data.
parkslope said:
I've been using 1115 and roam control for the past two weeks. This almost always means verizon in my area. I get better call reception but little, if any, improvement in data.
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Not all areas get 3g roaming on 11115 ..... flash 00001 for a little and check your 3g speed then ..
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[Q] Tmobile Note 3 on ATT network?

Anyone else running a Tmobile Note 3 on the AT&T network? Is there any difference in reception or LTE? I've seen in other threads people complain that they dropped calls and had less reception with the Tmobile hardware on ATT, I'd be curious to see DB measurements and not simply rely on the reception bars. Also heard complaints that the Tmobile N3 doesn't hand onto ATT LTE signals well.
Also using the Tmobile Note 3 on the ATT network does;
1) does tethering still work?
2) does it work with an AT&T microcell?
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Tether Works
No problem here.
There are other thread with same information. Search.
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spinedoc said:
Anyone else running a Tmobile Note 3 on the AT&T network? Is there any difference in reception or LTE? I've seen in other threads people complain that they dropped calls and had less reception with the Tmobile hardware on ATT, I'd be curious to see DB measurements and not simply rely on the reception bars. Also heard complaints that the Tmobile N3 doesn't hand onto ATT LTE signals well.
Also using the Tmobile Note 3 on the ATT network does;
1) does tethering still work?
2) does it work with an AT&T microcell?
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My wife and I both use straight talk which runs off of AT&T towers and when I'm at the house I have full bars and my speed was 20 if I remember correctly, at work I get 3-4 bars but never any reception problems. Hope this helps a Lil bit.
I'm running my N900T on AT&T with CM 11 and have noticed that my phone randomly drops back to Edge and even G sometimes. It has completely lost data access occasionally too. I put my phone in airplane mode and it goes back to full LTE, but that's bothering me. I don't know how to fix it.
Gaúcho comedor said:
I'm running my N900T on AT&T with CM 11 and have noticed that my phone randomly drops back to Edge and even G sometimes. It has completely lost data access occasionally too. I put my phone in airplane mode and it goes back to full LTE, but that's bothering me. I don't know how to fix it.
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Mine does that on tmobile
Gaúcho comedor said:
I'm running my N900T on AT&T with CM 11 and have noticed that my phone randomly drops back to Edge and even G sometimes. It has completely lost data access occasionally too. I put my phone in airplane mode and it goes back to full LTE, but that's bothering me. I don't know how to fix it.
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You can download Advanced Signal Status. Then go to additional info then device info and you can change the network mode to LTE only to force it to reconnect to LTE always.
sstory792 said:
You can download Advanced Signal Status. Then go to additional info then device info and you can change the network mode to LTE only to force it to reconnect to LTE always.
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I tested the app here, and although it says my LTE signal is at 100%, my data connection is being disabled every time I make a call. I tried changing the preferred network type to LTE only in the phone info menu and calls drop as soon as I hit the call button on the dialer. Also, in the phone info menu, the option to enable/disable data shows only as "enable" during a call, which means data is disabled, and clicking it does nothing. As soon as I hang up, my data connection restarts and goes to 2G. I don't know if this is a problem with CM 11, so I'll try a Touchwiz ROM in a minute. Any other suggestions?
Gaúcho comedor said:
I tested the app here, and although it says my LTE signal is at 100%, my data connection is being disabled every time I make a call. I tried changing the preferred network type to LTE only in the phone info menu and calls drop as soon as I hit the call button on the dialer. Also, in the phone info menu, the option to enable/disable data shows only as "enable" during a call, which means data is disabled, and clicking it does nothing. As soon as I hang up, my data connection restarts and goes to 2G. I don't know if this is a problem with CM 11, so I'll try a Touchwiz ROM in a minute. Any other suggestions?
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No problems at all with touchwiz. Probably a CM11 problem.

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