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Hi all,
sorry for my bad english iam a german user.
I have an Magic and a Desire, my Magic is rooted because the original Rom is stupid and slow....
Why should i root my Desire. I Like the original rom, its fast, very good functions (like sense, htc tether, and the other htc features)....
i dont know if there a desire rom that has all the same functions include root....
Thanks for your help..
Erm...then don't root it.
he's asking if by Rooting it he loses the HTC functions
Why shouldn't you root?
You can have the same exact ROM as the stock, but with root. Check the rooting procedure from modaco.
By rooting, you'd lose nothing. If I had a Desire, I'd surely root it even if I decided I wanted to keep the stock ROM. There's little to no risk, so no reason to hold back
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And how about warranty?
ingvarr_zaag said:
And how about warranty?
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same question,
on my magic i can recover all (SPL, Recovery, ROM etc) with the sapphimg.nbh and on the desire?
stingerpl said:
Why shouldn't you root?
You can have the same exact ROM as the stock, but with root. Check the rooting procedure from modaco.
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He's basically said he loves the features, he's happy with it and everything is working fine...so I'm saying, use it and leave it.
Why root if there's no specific reason to do so apart from "you can"?!
It's like the thread that's just popped up asking if SetCPU is working yet...why? Is the CPU too slow as it is? Just because you can doesn't mean you should for no good reason other than you're bored.
the good reason to root the phone is to get apps2sd which currently isnt working too well for some people,
however, apparently google with the 2.2 software which will be out soon will bring the apps to sd functionality, so i will wait till then as so far dont see the point of doing so
PsYDoX said:
Hi all,
sorry for my bad english iam a german user.
I have an Magic and a Desire, my Magic is rooted because the original Rom is stupid and slow....
Why should i root my Desire. I Like the original rom, its fast, very good functions (like sense, htc tether, and the other htc features)....
i dont know if there a desire rom that has all the same functions include root....
Thanks for your help..
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yep the rooted rom is exactly the same except root access and the super user app, would translate this but i know it wouldn't make much sense due to german sentence structure etc.
slaming said:
yep the rooted rom is exactly the same except root access and the super user app, would translate this but i know it wouldn't make much sense due to german sentence structure etc.
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hmm ok, but how about warranty?
PsYDoX said:
Why should i root my Desire.
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Do you want it to do something it doesn't already do? If not, leave it alone.
On a more personal note, I'd hold off rooting for a couple of months at least. Let all the guys at the bleeding edge get hurt and bloodied by the rooting process. Then once things have settled down and the initial niggles are resolved, see what benefits it brings. The phone is very new after all. Surely you can't be bored of it yet?
SIM Free Deal
I'm thinking of getting a Desire SIM free - will this come with bootloader unlocked and engineering SPL as standard do you think?
spences10 said:
I'm thinking of getting a Desire SIM free - will this come with bootloader unlocked and engineering SPL as standard do you think?
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The only advantage in getting a sim free version is you can use any sim card with it. That's it. No special bootloader and stuff.
Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but searching around on google for an answer I came across this.
Aitese said:
He's basically said he loves the features, he's happy with it and everything is working fine...so I'm saying, use it and leave it.
Why root if there's no specific reason to do so apart from "you can"?!
It's like the thread that's just popped up asking if SetCPU is working yet...why? Is the CPU too slow as it is? Just because you can doesn't mean you should for no good reason other than you're bored.
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What kind of advice is this? Seriously? Yes, you should do things because you can. You should learn and explore, become educated about the world around you. There's enough bigotry, ignorance, and lethargic mind states out there without telling others to hold back. This very technology was founded on forward thinking and sharing of community knowledge. As a counter to your statement why should I -NOT- root my device other than "because I can"?
What I want to know, and I believe op does as well, is what are the advantages of rooting? Are there any? Most of what I've looked up is fairly old (1+ years) and the biggest boon I've seen people talk about is being able to tether, this is something I can already do with my HTC Desire. I see plenty of answers for the second half of my question, what are the disadvantages, and there seems to be a hearty agreement that there really isn't one.
So what would I stand to gain from rooting?
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Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but searching around on google for an answer I came across this.
What kind of advice is this? Seriously? Yes, you should do things because you can. You should learn and explore, become educated about the world around you. There's enough bigotry, ignorance, and lethargic mind states out there without telling others to hold back. This very technology was founded on forward thinking and sharing of community knowledge. As a counter to your statement why should I -NOT- root my device other than "because I can"?
What I want to know, and I believe op does as well, is what are the advantages of rooting? Are there any? Most of what I've looked up is fairly old (1+ years) and the biggest boon I've seen people talk about is being able to tether, this is something I can already do with my HTC Desire. I see plenty of answers for the second half of my question, what are the disadvantages, and there seems to be a hearty agreement that there really isn't one.
So what would I stand to gain from rooting?
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You can gain much.....
One of the reasons I rooted mine is so that I can control the CPU speed using SetCPU and improve my battery life.
You can install firewall apps to control iptables and keep your phone a little bit safer from the "perils" of internet.
I have also installed a cache removal and a move2sd app to help save a bit more space in the internal memory.
And, obviously, you can flash custom ROMs and extend functionalities (I haven't done this....yet)
All of which are possible through rooting.
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I cannot see a reason to root a phone if you want to keep the original ROM. Mine is rooted but I cannot do anything that I couldn't do before on the original rom.
spile said:
I cannot see a reason to root a phone if you want to keep the original ROM. Mine is rooted but I cannot do anything that I couldn't do before on the original rom.
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You can use certain applications from the market that required root such as setcpu.
I was just wondering if it should root my Epic 4G Touch. I have a few reasons for wanting to Root, namely, Free WiFi Tethering, and silencing the Camera. However, my concerns are voiding the warranty, and losing my data. In your opinion, is it worth it?
Also, if I unmount my Micro SD card before rooting, there's no chance of losing any data on it, correct?
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I say go for it and you got nothing to lose. I was also once contemplating to root
or not and im glad i did
Phones can also be unrooted and restored if something happens to go wrong.
You will have lots of benefits such as using custom roms,using root applications,
modding your entire phone to your liking etc etc...
Should I root?
Yes you should root for sure the android world is ever expanding and becoming easier and more complex Ive learned so much tinkering with my E4GT how to root use odin install roms over clock under clock change voltages memory tweeks Mali GPU tweeks. also it makes jail breaking and unlocking the iphone look like a sad little controlled by apple baby the android OS is wide open to any and all customization and you dont need google's permission to do it. so yes i would root any android phone its so much better than stock ROM and Kernels. Good luck please post any more questions if u have them ill help you out the best i can.
Rooting really unlocks the potential of your phone. I know most Sprint stores are probably different, but when I picked up my E4GT the guy at the counter had a custom rom on his phone. And told me not to worry about rooting/flashing as they can usually reset the phone (before ICS of course). And if they couldn't save it, then I would have to pay a 100 deductible. Not to shabby, and of course haven't hard bricked yet (knock on wood). Just make sure to read, read, read! And check out qbking 77 videos on youtube. That guy is a genius, and if you follow his steps to a T then you will be fine. Good luck!
+1 on the qbking77 videos he makes it easy to follow along. I rooted fiollowing his steps with no problem.my phone is faster has more abilities has better battery can tether backup make nandroids for safe keeping. Just as said above read and research before jumping. You won't be sorry you did.
Question do I have to unroot to update to ics when its finally released?
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Ok first off the answer is no if you do it with sfhubs method and secondly before any of you guys start messing with your phones do some research. "Should I Root" has got to be one of the most repetitious threads in here. A little research of the thoughts of others asking the same question would be a great start to your Android adventure.
Honestly, this is a great place but it does take up some of your time and brain power. Asking others about what to do with your personal device is a lill off center to me but its ok as long as if you destroy your own personal device you dont go blaming others.
Like mentioned QBKing has plenty of videos and please Please please read the stickys in all sections. I may sound crazy but too me if you have to ask this question about rooting your not ready. Its not for the faint of heart...
Side note - If you learn anything in here is that the upgrade for ICS will be here long before or minutes after its official. Never understood why people unroot to get an update to root again... Is it just me? *scratches head*
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Side note - If you learn anything in here is that the upgrade for ICS will be here long before or minutes after its official. Never understood why people unroot to get an update to root again... Is it just me? *scratches head*
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I really don't care that you can't understand. I want the official release. I don't want to use roms that have minor issues or have none working features. Yet anyway. I'd rather be safe. Now as for my question. I did a search an I get conflicting results. One says updating ota with root doesn't matter. Second one is you can update with root but you wont be able to root after.
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If you have to ask, NO.
Haha that Sprint guy at the counter sounds like me, custom rom on my E4GT while showing customers my phone. I love it when some ask "wow did ice cream sandwich come out? Can I update to that??" By all means rooting and roming your phone is not for everyone, but I say go for it. Don't expect everything to work perfectly, you need to understand there will be bugs and glitches every now and then and that's why this is my hobby. Always something to do
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I really don't care that you can't understand. I want the official release. I don't want to use roms that have minor issues or have none working features. Yet anyway. I'd rather be safe. Now as for my question. I did a search an I get conflicting results. One says updating ota with root doesn't matter. Second one is you can update with root but you wont be able to root after.
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Hahahaha... ahhh you don't care hahahaha ok but buddy if you really did your research like you said you would know that.... Ya know what just go to sfhubs threads and do a little reading and you will find your answer which I answered already.
My bad this place is about helping others who need helps so here you go..You do know that sfhubs tars are rooted stock with NO I repeat NO changes... I have already answered that I believe but I guess you were stuck on something else I said.... Hahahahahaha
here it is below from sfhubs thread here
The ONLY change was the addition of ROOT to the ROM. NOTHING else was changed. If you made no other changes, you WOULD be able to install an OTA patch update (based off of EL29) on top of this w/o issues.
root, unroot to root again?
Playya Out!
it is definitely worth it, and if you plan not to root it, you should just give it to someone more deserving and get the iphone. i had the same question a few weeks ago and after much reading and a little bravery, ive grown to trust myself highly with some of these processes. really rooting isnt even what youre after for the good stuff, its just a prerequisite. i recommend reading a lot though. and like others said, qbking77 is your guiding angel lol
I'm sure I'm not the only one to notice the empty dev topic. Just curious if anyone has mentioned beginning to work on this project.
I soon will be getting the device my self and I'm keeping a close eye here to see how things unfold.
waitting for this
I plan to replace my Atrix2..ha ha
I'm sure we will see more in the coming weeks.
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well has anyone WITH the phone given any attempts? just following some of the other android root attempt threads can at least give devs a jumpstart as to what DOESN'T work....
Didn't the xperia s devs just get root for locked bl? It seems there is an exploit in ics that can be used for root. Does anyone have ics preinstalled on their ion (like say from malaysia or something...) so someone can start on using this method?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1742992
Well mot many devs have purchased it... Im also very busy and not very professional or i would start it... So i guess we have to give a month for ppl to show up
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I've tried both SuperOneClick and DooMLoRD's method on two different computers with no luck :crying:
It really sucks having this phone and not being able to do anything with it
SU1CiDE said:
I've tried both SuperOneClick and DooMLoRD's method on two different computers with no luck :crying:
It really sucks having this phone and not being able to do anything with it
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I wouldn't know where to start asi am not familiar with Linux. I tried flashtool with no luck....
dizarmstrong said:
Didn't the xperia s devs just get root for locked bl? It seems there is an exploit in ics that can be used for root. Does anyone have ics preinstalled on their ion (like say from malaysia or something...) so someone can start on using this method?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1742992
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I wonder if this will work on the ion. Guess it depends on if it needs something from the ICS flash that they are doing on the Xperia S.
Is the ion even out somewhere with ICS...didn't think it had been released yet anywhere with it.
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I wonder if this will work on the ion. Guess it depends on if it needs something from the ICS flash that they are doing on the Xperia S.
Is the ion even out somewhere with ICS...didn't think it had been released yet anywhere with it.
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you might be right. I just remember seeing it demoed at xperiablog and thinking it was already released somewhere: http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/06/20/android-4-0-4-officially-demoed-on-the-xperia-ion-video/. I think the vulnerability is innate to android 4.0 (i might be wrong), so I think once an ion with 4.0 is released, we should be able to take advantage of it.
I guess the wait continues. bummer...
Spectre51 said:
I wonder if this will work on the ion. Guess it depends on if it needs something from the ICS flash that they are doing on the Xperia S.
Is the ion even out somewhere with ICS...didn't think it had been released yet anywhere with it.
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I got bored and decided to chat with Sony support to maybe get an update on unlocking the bootloader their way or an update and they said in some countries there's already been an ICS update for it, nothing came up in for anything I searched other than people asking about an update.
I'm fine with 3.7, can only imagine speed, etc of a tweaked version. Other than the bloat I must say Im pretty pleased fellas. Looking forward to getting into it but in the interim theres nothing really bugging me(no pun intended), shouldn't be too bad of a wait.
Another fine machine from Sony far as I'm concerned. earbrain
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Certainly not going to risk a brick or anything unnecessary until there are sufficient means available. eb
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Nobody has any news? Really getting to me now not having this thing rooted -.-
Install the International fw. It isn't the same thing as having it rooted but at least you get rid of all the bloat and you can use the stock tether.
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I haven't really got a use for tethering, two years with a rooted HTC Aria I think I used it twice. The bloatware I can't uninstall doesn't really matter to me either, I don't even notice it since you can customize your app drawer with ADW. I really want root to overclock tbh.
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Nobody has any news? Really getting to me now not having this thing rooted -.-
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I'm working on it. Trying to see what methods from the Xperia S we can bring over to the ion. Would be easier if I had an ion with an unlockable bootloader (DAMN YOU AT&T). I have my friend at Sony checking with the devs there to see if maybe there might be a way or at least a hint they could give us. It will happen, just gotta be patient.
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DAMN YOU AT&T
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Agreed highly. None of my phones in the past have been this difficult to unlock and/or root so I'm now trying my best to be patient haha. I had a rooted s-off HTC Aria for two years and root access made that phone 100x better so I'm just imagining how much more amazing the Ion will be, ridiculous step up from the Aria.
Spectre51 is correct... It will happen...its just a matter of time is all.
Complete shot in the dark question here... And forgive my ignorance to this phone, as I won't physically have it in hand until tonight... But...
I wonder if someone from the PSP "Modification" scene could help with this?? I understand the differences in the two devices, so please don't flame me...I'm not retarded. LOL.. But what I am getting at is this... Everyone has patterns to their software/firmware... its just a matter of identifying it... Maybe because this phone is Playstation certified...there may be a hidden link somewhere?
I know...this sounds crazy, preposterous, ridiculous, etc... But what if?? IDK...just throwing ideas... I'm gonna try this unsecure kernel thing tonight and see how far I get with it. I'll keep you all posted
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Spectre51 is correct... It will happen...its just a matter of time is all.
Complete shot in the dark question here... And forgive my ignorance to this phone, as I won't physically have it in hand until tonight... But...
I wonder if someone from the PSP "Modification" scene could help with this?? I understand the differences in the two devices, so please don't flame me...I'm not retarded. LOL.. But what I am getting at is this... Everyone has patterns to their software/firmware... its just a matter of identifying it... Maybe because this phone is Playstation certified...there may be a hidden link somewhere?
I know...this sounds crazy, preposterous, ridiculous, etc... But what if?? IDK...just throwing ideas... I'm gonna try this unsecure kernel thing tonight and see how far I get with it. I'll keep you all posted
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Remember the Unsecured kernel is only good for LT28i and not the LT28at, due to being unable to unlock the bootloader for the "at" version.
Hello there
my kid has this Arc model and it`s glitchy despite updates we did together, so since it under warranty, we decided to return but service guy said "its work ok", so unable to return... looking for a "trick" how to make this gadget "dead" and then return for exchange in hope to get new, better working one... any workable ideas?
thanx
sonik2012 said:
Hello there
my kid has this Arc model and it`s glitchy despite updates we did together, so since it under warranty, we decided to return but service guy said "its work ok", so unable to return... looking for a "trick" how to make this gadget "dead" and then return for exchange in hope to get new, better working one... any workable ideas?
thanx
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The phone is glitchy because of the crap apps preinstalled by Sony which are eating a lot of ram memory. You can root your device and then remove some useless stuff. Here is a list of removable apps preinstalled by Sony http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671314. Also,can i ask what fw version do you have installed?
sonik2012 said:
Hello there
my kid has this Arc model and it`s glitchy despite updates we did together, so since it under warranty, we decided to return but service guy said "its work ok", so unable to return... looking for a "trick" how to make this gadget "dead" and then return for exchange in hope to get new, better working one... any workable ideas?
thanx
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It's not the phone fault it's the firmware/software,which update did you install ICS 4.0.4,ICS is very laggy on xperia arc,that's the way it is,it's not problem with the phone.
I have installed on my Xperia Arc fw:ICS 4.0.4 .587,a flashed Ultimate HD 2.0,It's pretty fast,and stable.Gaming runs grate,there are no bloatwares.
Here check it out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920207
Good luck
we looking for a "solution" to exchange phone for a new one! any ideas? thanx
I guess only solution with "morality" is to buy a new one.
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sonik2012 said:
we looking for a "solution" to exchange phone for a new one! any ideas? thanx
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yeah never *lol*
theres 1 trick:
unlock bootloader, OC @2GHz let a game running all day (3D Game) and burn the CPU... Than send them and say "it just died"
when they are silly they will give you xperia s
no gurantee or anything
jader13254 said:
yeah never *lol*
theres 1 trick:
unlock bootloader, OC @2GHz let a game running all day (3D Game) and burn the CPU... Than send them and say "it just died"
when they are silly they will give you xperia s
no gurantee or anything
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They can tell if the bootloader is unlocked so they will not accept it.
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so nothing else can be done in this regard? kid still want to return his fone... anyone? thanx
sent my arc s to sony rooted and they never said anything, repaired and sent it back
alexdc12 said:
sent my arc s to sony rooted and they never said anything, repaired and sent it back
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we want it to be exchanged for new one... but how to do so? thanx
jader13254 said:
yeah never *lol*
theres 1 trick:
unlock bootloader, OC @2GHz let a game running all day (3D Game) and burn the CPU... Than send them and say "it just died"
when they are silly they will give you xperia s
no gurantee or anything
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>theres 1 trick: unlock bootloader, OC @2GHz
could you please explain in plain words how to do so (ie whats the "unlock bootloader" means and [email protected] as well) thanx in advance!
This thread really needs to die.
Hi guys, sorry for such a jackass question, I know there is an enormous wealth of information on this subject on the internet. It's just that most of it seems conflicting, and much of it is outdated. I have a r800at running 3.0.1.B.0.285 and I think I have to downgrade through flashtools before running either OneClickRoot or Flashtools itself?
I'm very confused, and don't have that much experience with Android devices in the past.
Mostly I'm looking to uninstall bloatware so I can free up internal memory, and also tethering.
Please help!
bonapartist said:
Hi guys, sorry for such a jackass question, I know there is an enormous wealth of information on this subject on the internet. It's just that most of it seems conflicting, and much of it is outdated. I have a r800at running 3.0.1.B.0.285 and I think I have to downgrade through flashtools before running either OneClickRoot or Flashtools itself?
I'm very confused, and don't have that much experience with Android devices in the past.
Mostly I'm looking to uninstall bloatware so I can free up internal memory, and also tethering.
Please help!
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Maybe this will help you link
Hit thanks if I helped :good:
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Maybe this will help you link
Hit thanks if I helped :good:
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Thank you, Ilikechicken! Btw, I also love chicken. I could eat it 2 meals a day for the next thousand years. We should have a chicken party. Back on topic...
This worked great for me, I now have a rooted Xperia play! I will find the Verizon equivalent and do it for my two Verizon Xperias too. Only issue I has was that I had to check flash box & fastboot box when choosing the drivers to install which wasn't immediately obvious, so I had a few fails until I figured that out. Altogether it was a less harrowing process than jailbreaking my old Iphone 3g or putting CFW on my old PSP-1000 so many years ago.
This is fantastic. I can now delete cores out of Retroarch to keep the size small (has to stay on internal memory), and cut out all that bloatware.
Thanks for the info and thanks to all those who put hard work into these programs. Now I gotta figure how to unlock my bootloader so I can move to the cheaper Tmobile plan.