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Why to root my Desire

Hi all,
sorry for my bad english iam a german user.
I have an Magic and a Desire, my Magic is rooted because the original Rom is stupid and slow....
Why should i root my Desire. I Like the original rom, its fast, very good functions (like sense, htc tether, and the other htc features)....
i dont know if there a desire rom that has all the same functions include root....
Thanks for your help..

Erm...then don't root it.

he's asking if by Rooting it he loses the HTC functions

Why shouldn't you root?
You can have the same exact ROM as the stock, but with root. Check the rooting procedure from modaco.

By rooting, you'd lose nothing. If I had a Desire, I'd surely root it even if I decided I wanted to keep the stock ROM. There's little to no risk, so no reason to hold back
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And how about warranty?

ingvarr_zaag said:
And how about warranty?
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same question,
on my magic i can recover all (SPL, Recovery, ROM etc) with the sapphimg.nbh and on the desire?

stingerpl said:
Why shouldn't you root?
You can have the same exact ROM as the stock, but with root. Check the rooting procedure from modaco.
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He's basically said he loves the features, he's happy with it and everything is working fine...so I'm saying, use it and leave it.
Why root if there's no specific reason to do so apart from "you can"?!
It's like the thread that's just popped up asking if SetCPU is working yet...why? Is the CPU too slow as it is? Just because you can doesn't mean you should for no good reason other than you're bored.

the good reason to root the phone is to get apps2sd which currently isnt working too well for some people,
however, apparently google with the 2.2 software which will be out soon will bring the apps to sd functionality, so i will wait till then as so far dont see the point of doing so

PsYDoX said:
Hi all,
sorry for my bad english iam a german user.
I have an Magic and a Desire, my Magic is rooted because the original Rom is stupid and slow....
Why should i root my Desire. I Like the original rom, its fast, very good functions (like sense, htc tether, and the other htc features)....
i dont know if there a desire rom that has all the same functions include root....
Thanks for your help..
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yep the rooted rom is exactly the same except root access and the super user app, would translate this but i know it wouldn't make much sense due to german sentence structure etc.

slaming said:
yep the rooted rom is exactly the same except root access and the super user app, would translate this but i know it wouldn't make much sense due to german sentence structure etc.
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hmm ok, but how about warranty?

PsYDoX said:
Why should i root my Desire.
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Do you want it to do something it doesn't already do? If not, leave it alone.
On a more personal note, I'd hold off rooting for a couple of months at least. Let all the guys at the bleeding edge get hurt and bloodied by the rooting process. Then once things have settled down and the initial niggles are resolved, see what benefits it brings. The phone is very new after all. Surely you can't be bored of it yet?

SIM Free Deal
I'm thinking of getting a Desire SIM free - will this come with bootloader unlocked and engineering SPL as standard do you think?

spences10 said:
I'm thinking of getting a Desire SIM free - will this come with bootloader unlocked and engineering SPL as standard do you think?
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The only advantage in getting a sim free version is you can use any sim card with it. That's it. No special bootloader and stuff.

Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but searching around on google for an answer I came across this.
Aitese said:
He's basically said he loves the features, he's happy with it and everything is working fine...so I'm saying, use it and leave it.
Why root if there's no specific reason to do so apart from "you can"?!
It's like the thread that's just popped up asking if SetCPU is working yet...why? Is the CPU too slow as it is? Just because you can doesn't mean you should for no good reason other than you're bored.
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What kind of advice is this? Seriously? Yes, you should do things because you can. You should learn and explore, become educated about the world around you. There's enough bigotry, ignorance, and lethargic mind states out there without telling others to hold back. This very technology was founded on forward thinking and sharing of community knowledge. As a counter to your statement why should I -NOT- root my device other than "because I can"?
What I want to know, and I believe op does as well, is what are the advantages of rooting? Are there any? Most of what I've looked up is fairly old (1+ years) and the biggest boon I've seen people talk about is being able to tether, this is something I can already do with my HTC Desire. I see plenty of answers for the second half of my question, what are the disadvantages, and there seems to be a hearty agreement that there really isn't one.
So what would I stand to gain from rooting?

briskmojo said:
Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but searching around on google for an answer I came across this.
What kind of advice is this? Seriously? Yes, you should do things because you can. You should learn and explore, become educated about the world around you. There's enough bigotry, ignorance, and lethargic mind states out there without telling others to hold back. This very technology was founded on forward thinking and sharing of community knowledge. As a counter to your statement why should I -NOT- root my device other than "because I can"?
What I want to know, and I believe op does as well, is what are the advantages of rooting? Are there any? Most of what I've looked up is fairly old (1+ years) and the biggest boon I've seen people talk about is being able to tether, this is something I can already do with my HTC Desire. I see plenty of answers for the second half of my question, what are the disadvantages, and there seems to be a hearty agreement that there really isn't one.
So what would I stand to gain from rooting?
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You can gain much.....
One of the reasons I rooted mine is so that I can control the CPU speed using SetCPU and improve my battery life.
You can install firewall apps to control iptables and keep your phone a little bit safer from the "perils" of internet.
I have also installed a cache removal and a move2sd app to help save a bit more space in the internal memory.
And, obviously, you can flash custom ROMs and extend functionalities (I haven't done this....yet)
All of which are possible through rooting.
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I cannot see a reason to root a phone if you want to keep the original ROM. Mine is rooted but I cannot do anything that I couldn't do before on the original rom.

spile said:
I cannot see a reason to root a phone if you want to keep the original ROM. Mine is rooted but I cannot do anything that I couldn't do before on the original rom.
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You can use certain applications from the market that required root such as setcpu.

Samsung Galaxy S is...

....Lagging a lot....
Hello guys,
I've been lurking around the forum learning things on my own. I bought a Galaxy S 8GB 4 days back on a contract from O2.
the phone is awesome, and all.. but after installing few games and apps, I have come to see that the phone lags a lot. It became unresponsive and I had to soft reset the phone many times to get it working properly.
I then hard reset the phone on day 3 (yesterday) and now the phone's running a bit better. I installed a few apps and Fancy Widget, and the phone became very slow again. I uninstalled Fancy Widget and the phone became a bit fast, but still lags at times.
I feel like throwing the phone at wall.
Why is this lag happening and what do I do to minimise/eliminate this lag?
cheers!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725194
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724251
is the best solution today

JG5 + root + AutoKiller(Strict setting+) gave me great results.
Memory card fix isnt much faster. Im not sure about the quadrant benchmark, I had 1600~ but the phone felt the same.

personally im waiting for samsung to release an official firmware. i can't backup my original firmware and the rom is released nowhere, so my only choice is to wait until i can flash an official firmware to keep my warranty.
im not sure how these unofficial firmwares are created/named/released but the naming structure would suggest leaked beta firmwares from samsung themselves. the phones not that bad for me at the moment hopefully froyo fixes the little issues going around.
correct me if im wrong.

OrionTC said:
personally im waiting for samsung to release an official firmware. i can't backup my original firmware and the rom is released nowhere, so my only choice is to wait until i can flash an official firmware to keep my warranty.
im not sure how these unofficial firmwares are created/named/released but the naming structure would suggest leaked beta firmwares from samsung themselves. the phones not that bad for me at the moment hopefully froyo fixes the little issues going around.
correct me if im wrong.
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The official firmware can be found:
http://www.samsung-firmware.webs.com/

lenrek said:
The official firmware can be found:
http://www.samsung-firmware.webs.com/
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Im one of the users with the I9000XXJF3 firmware and currently i can't find a backup for this. i see JF1 JF2 and JF7 on that site.
i know im not alone with this and a few people have asked if its possible to create a backup of their firmware but as far as i know none of the threads have been fully answered.

OrionTC said:
Im one of the users with the I9000XXJF3 firmware and currently i can't find a backup for this. i see JF1 JF2 and JF7 on that site.
i know im not alone with this and a few people have asked if its possible to create a backup of their firmware but as far as i know none of the threads have been fully answered.
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If I read the version correctly, according to the description found here.
You are using:
I9000XXJF3
XX - Austria, Belgium, France, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Spain, United Kingdom
J - 2010
F - June
3 - Version 3
So, the I9000XXJF7 should be the latest official firmware version for your phone.
I forgot...
Why not try the suggestion here:
[TUT] How To Create DUMP out of Stock Rom
EDIT: Did not read the content of the thread, after read it, maybe is not what you are looking for.

Hmm, im just a little cautious, call me paranoid but surely official firmwares would be released via OTA/samsung website/Kias(whatever its called).
and yes i posted in that thread hoping it was what i was looking for but no lol.
i do agree with you that I9000XXJF7 is "my" latest firmware, but i dont think its officially from samsung.
id be happy if someone can prove me wrong so i can finally flash to JG5

the samsung-firmwares.com site is not an official one, but everyone gets their FW's from there. just flash a custom rom and you should be fine.

DocRambone said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725194
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724251
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thanks for the prompt reply. but I dont want to do any damage to my phone; and I dont have a memory card yet :/
bushrat said:
JG5 + root + AutoKiller(Strict setting+) gave me great results.
Memory card fix isnt much faster. Im not sure about the quadrant benchmark, I had 1600~ but the phone felt the same.
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I dont want to root my phone (as its brand new) and I dont know what effect does it do on warranty and stuff.
OrionTC said:
personally im waiting for samsung to release an official firmware. i can't backup my original firmware and the rom is released nowhere, so my only choice is to wait until i can flash an official firmware to keep my warranty
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my exact problem and my thoughts
OrionTC said:
Im one of the users with the I9000XXJF3 firmware and currently i can't find a backup for this. i see JF1 JF2 and JF7 on that site.
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mine is the same too
so I have to root the phone to make it faster.
this doesnt answer why the phone is slow in the first place? I have read about NAND and stuff which I dont understand. what do they mean? Can someone explain in plain english?
thanks

It's slow because for some reason, the Galaxy doesn't auto kill apps once the memory reaches low levels. So you can do two things. Install the autokiller app which should keep enough memory free for smooth operation, or you can install advanced task killer app, and kill all the apps yourself once the phone feels sluggish.

hi,
are you have a task killer like app installed ?
all apps running in background when you start them onetime..with task killer you can close all. i have 170mb ram..
after few hours of playing with my sgs its slowing down, then i look in task killer just 40mb ram.
when i kill all apps i have again 170mb and anything is fine ;-))
test it..
or check fastreboot its faster then a softreset with the power button
sorry for my bad english guys

navmanyeah said:
It's slow because for some reason, the Galaxy doesn't auto kill apps once the memory reaches low levels. So you can do two things. Install the autokiller app which should keep enough memory free for smooth operation, or you can install advanced task killer app, and kill all the apps yourself once the phone feels sluggish.
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I have tried the autokiller app but it stopped me from using it because it said it could harm my phone.
also what kind of idiotic developer wouldnt put a proper memory management module in it?

I would love to root the phone and muck with it if I could only be assured I wouldn't lose my warranty. Until someone tells me all is good, all I can do is nail apps as best I can.
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Will a factory reset undo the root? If so rooting and autokiller is a no brainer.

emclondon said:
I have tried the autokiller app but it stopped me from using it because it said it could harm my phone.
also what kind of idiotic developer wouldnt put a proper memory management module in it?
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If such a statement stops you, than you really shouldn't touch any setting on the phone =) Or buy IPhone.
Its protection against idiots

dupel said:
If such a statement stops you, than you really shouldn't touch any setting on the phone =) Or buy IPhone.
Its protection against idiots
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lol bit harsh but true.If you really do want to be cautious just wait for the official firmware update from samsung-it will be fixed(has been fixed already in jg5).It looks like samsung wanted to get the phone to market as quick as possible so firmware suffered.Judging by sales it looks like they made a good choice from a business point of view

<insert thread title here> ... an object of ridicule..
ive tried autokiller and advanced task manager, autokiller made my phone even sluggish.
still have the phone in stock condition.
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this happened to me like 5-6 times till now.
Mate: "oh you got a new mobile?"
Me: "yeah"
*shows him*
Mate: "oh you got the new iPhone?, thats cool!"
Me: :/
*facepalm*
I cant even show them my phone because people think it of as it looks like iPhone is a clone of iPhone.
and when I try to show them, my phone becomes hell lot of slow, and I get to hear things like "i got a crap phone" and "nokia 3310 is faster than yours" and stuff

Lag fix time maybe? Its super easy to do and makes massive difference.
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Think you need to stop caring what people think
Nah, I admit, it's nice showing off your phone's though. Not sure what kind of friends you have, but I've found the ability to actually do whatever I want with my phone has left most iPhone friends annoyed and somewhat jealous. Something simple as transfering regular files to your phone could be enough

Rooting GB v.62

Hello everybody..I have Xperia Arc S..currently on GB with firmware v.62..every period of time I check this lovely and respected forum of urz wishing there's a way to root my device without the need to unlock bootloader..but unfortunately nothing new..I managed to root v4.0.4 ICS without unlocking the bootloader..and frankly I can't imagine y we can't do so in GB..it's really frustrating guys..any ideas??I may be wrong but I don't know and can't believe our innovative and creative developers still didn't figure out a way around this..any help or opinion is really appreciated guys..thanks alot

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1560777

thanks for ur reply but this method don't work anymore cause the update now offers the 4.04 which I don't want cause it sux frankly..so I can't update to .62..I was hoping for another method

omarfaieq007 said:
thanks for ur reply but this method don't work anymore cause the update now offers the 4.04 which I don't want cause it sux frankly..so I can't update to .62..I was hoping for another method
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Of course, never thought. I wouldn't say it sucks, might do if you play a lot of games from what I can gather, but other than that it's alright imo.

yeah I play games and most of them have issues..also multitasking is hell..the whole thing is not fitting me..thx anyway 4 ur help friend

H/Q First time rooting anything.

Hello everyone reading this, I have never rooted any of the phones that I have had, and i have looked into it before but had lost interest in doing so to the Samsung GS3 i had. After having this G3 for a month or two I'm wanting root it, but all I know is the basic "here this is how to root it". So I think what I'm looking for is recommendations on things to do once i have it rooted. So far I haven't rooted yet, and I'm thinking on using towelroot from what i have read so far.
Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions.

I would definitely recommend using towelroot. Then get a bumped recovery on it so you can flash a rom such as cloudyg3. It'll give you some options you wouldn't normally have and remove carrier specific apps and garbage like that. That's a good place to start.

Alright, I'm going to have look into that, because I am completely clueless on that, like I said above I've really only gotten a mild grasp of rooting
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The best way to understand, I believe, is to read, read, read. There's a ton of information here. Read, and if you don't understand something ask specific questions and people will be happy to help.

Thanks for that, and from my current guess a recovery is like a firmware load, and a bumped recovery is an updated so say to the next OS release. And ROMs I want to say are like themes. Though I think I may be wrong on that one
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I rooted my Galaxy S3 about 6 months ago, and I did a lot of reading before doing it. The problem with everyone's advice to read is a lot of times, you don't know what you don't know. How much is enough reading and prep? A lot of what I learned, I learned through trial and error, and there was always great advice here if I needed help out of a particular spot.
Just make sure you have a nandroid backup and never ever flash a rom unless you're certain it's built for your specific device and carrier.
I hit a few bumps along the way, but rooting has been great, and I can't imagine not being rooted again. I'm planning on getting the Sprint G3 in about 3 weeks, and I'm gulping up all the information I can to ensure that I'll be able to root and flash roms. Good luck!

Anyone with a solid answer to "Unlocking the bootloader"?

Is it even possible to unlock the bootloader and root the Verizon version of this phone. I have heard too many different answers to this question. Can someone with some solid knowledge inform me on this? Thanks guys here at XDA, you rock!

Not possible. See number two on the list:
https://motorola-global-portal.cust...PWTNEbmNlQnNuTXNVWU51dGMlN0VJWDZUSXclMjElMjE=
The only reason the Verizon version is worth it, is because it is free. Well it was when I got it. Still a good phone. Why do you need root?

larsdennert said:
Not possible. See number two on the list:
https://motorola-global-portal.cust...PWTNEbmNlQnNuTXNVWU51dGMlN0VJWDZUSXclMjElMjE=
The only reason the Verizon version is worth it, is because it is free. Well it was when I got it. Still a good phone. Why do you need root?
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ive always rooted my phones and i just came from nexus 6 so i miss rooting a bit. but in the end i dont really need it anymore since i got the new unlimitd plan and can tether. thats the only thing i was really needing. its cool to try out roms here and there but ive done it so much in the past im burnt out on setting the phone up over and over

Android permissions helps quite a bit now. The only thing I missed from root was ad blocking and internet blocking. That seems pretty well solved with somthing like NetGuard https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.faircode.netguard and configuring www.alternate-dns.com servers or getting the github version and using a hosts file.