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Hi all
Just got an Inc 2. why else would I be posting here ,,,, anyhow I gotta have root mainly just to remove bloat, really undecided on which way though, HTC unlock or a full S off through the downgrade revolutionary method, I'm not realy a flashaholic, I would like to be able to use set CPU or the likes, for battery savings and maybe a little overclocking, phone seems pretty responsive if you ask me just coming from an Eris but I haven't loaded any apps on it yet either, heck I haven't even activated it yet (guess it's a little hard to let Ginger go ) I'd post a screen shot of her but she's a little shy.
So what's everyone thoughts on this if you had just recieved a brand new Incredible 2, with 2.3.4 Gingerbread, 5.10.605.9, 2.6.35.9 kernel; and now the news of Official ICS update soon to be released which way would you go to root HTC or S off?
Can you overclock/undervolt stock kernel?
Is it possible to flash a different kernel?
Any and all input on this will be greatly appriciated, Thanks In Advance

JRngln said:
Hi all
Just got an Inc 2. why else would I be posting here ,,,, anyhow I gotta have root mainly just to remove bloat, really undecided on which way though, HTC unlock or a full S off through the downgrade revolutionary method, I'm not realy a flashaholic, I would like to be able to use set CPU or the likes, for battery savings and maybe a little overclocking, phone seems pretty responsive if you ask me just coming from an Eris but I haven't loaded any apps on it yet either, heck I haven't even activated it yet (guess it's a little hard to let Ginger go ) I'd post a screen shot of her but she's a little shy.
So what's everyone thoughts on this if you had just recieved a brand new Incredible 2, with 2.3.4 Gingerbread, 5.10.605.9, 2.6.35.9 kernel; and now the news of Official ICS update soon to be released which way would you go to root HTC or S off?
Can you overclock/undervolt stock kernel?
Is it possible to flash a different kernel?
Any and all input on this will be greatly appriciated, Thanks In Advance
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You're gonna wanna downgrade and s-off. It's easier to flash ROMs, also you can flash radios that way. It's a slightly longer process to do so, but its worth not spending extra time when flashing ROMs. Mainly because you have to flash the kernel in fastboot if you use HTC unlock.
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Thanks for your quick response, thats just it I'm not realy a flashaholic and if I see a rom that I would like to flash, a little extra work wouldn't bother me stability speed and no issues have presedence for me, not worried about look at what I got, just overall balanced goodness

JRngln said:
Thanks for your quick response, thats just it I'm not realy a flashaholic and if I see a rom that I would like to flash, a little extra work wouldn't bother me stability speed and no issues have presedence for me, not worried about look at what I got, just overall balanced goodness
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As far as that goes, you'll see no difference in performance. So, just as far as easier to setup, I'd go with s-off.
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tylerlawhon said:
As far as that goes, you'll see no difference in performance. So, just as far as easier to setup, I'd go with s-off.
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My brain is all befuddled now with all the reading I've been doing and I forget does downgrading revert the radio?

JRngln said:
My brain is all befuddled now with all the reading I've been doing and I forget does downgrading revert the radio?
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It doesn't. It downgrades the hboot version. Now, if you s-off, you can flash any radio you wish. The recommended one is either the latest .1111 or .0722.
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tylerlawhon said:
It doesn't. It downgrades the hboot version. Now, if you s-off, you can flash any radio you wish. The recommended one is either the latest .1111 or .0722.
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Yes I have the latest.1111 with 2.3.4 Gingerbread, 5.10.605.9, kernel 2.6.35.9, it downgrades more than just the hboot doesn't it? I thought it downgraded the whole OS.

It will put you back to 2.2 or 2.3 I think but it does not affect radio. You van then flaws one of the rooms based off the latest stock update ( what you have) if that's what you want. Also, you can't oc stock kernel, use dresdills 21. Also if u use the HTC method you are guaranteed void warranty cause they know what you done. If you use other method you can revert to completely stock if you need too and they will never know if you need to because of hardware issues. Charging ports have been known to go bad so I would keep that in mind...
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jeremytn86 said:
It will put you back to 2.2 or 2.3 I think but it does not affect radio. You van then flaws one of the rooms based off the latest stock update ( what you have) if that's what you want. Also, you can't oc stock kernel, use dresdills 21. Also if u use the HTC method you are guaranteed void warranty cause they know what you done. If you use other method you can revert to completely stock if you need too and they will never know if you need to because of hardware issues. Charging ports have been known to go bad so I would keep that in mind...
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Yes I've heard about that kernel, I'm pretty sure that once you root they know it cause all there tracking, or most of there tracking software goes offline for them, and they know that the only reason, for the most part, that the phone dissapeared is root. I thought htc unlock still gave you a warranty although more limitted. And yes I learned from the Eris when the phone is on the charger be extra extra carefull with it, even if it meens don't touch it.

Root doesn't take out anything, and I'm not sure what tracking your referring to anyways. The only way anything would be took out is if you do it, or the rom you install does. If they know you done it, and you think it may be more limited, that's just a way of saying now we have a reason to deny you anytime we feel like it. But if your set on that, do it, not gonna argue its your phone could care less, you wanted opinions you got it, either way good luck...
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Root doesn't take out anything, and I'm not sure what tracking your referring to anyways. The only way anything would be took out is if you do it, or the rom you install does. If they know you done it, and you think it may be more limited, that's just a way of saying now we have a reason to deny you anytime we feel like it. But if your set on that, do it, not gonna argue its your phone could care less, you wanted opinions you got it, either way good luck...
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I never said that root in and of itself took out anything, it's the stuff we take out once we root. Your not sure what tracking I'm referring to, Look up Carrier IQ .
I charged this phone turned it on bypassed activation shut off the networks just to play around with it and it was still reporting network traffic, How, Why?
This phone has the ability to get past the switch thats thrown when you shut off your data connections. I did just activate the phone, I had forgot to turn data back on before doing so, but it didn't matter; after phone booted up and was settling in I saw the 3g icon pop up in the status bar, thats what reminded me, [I thought I shut that off] and sure enough it was still off, yet it still sent data, but where to? I'm not set on anything yet, yes I'm trying to get many opinions and I thank you for your input this phones been out for a while now and many things have changed since it was first released, like ICS, and htc unlock of the hboot. Much of the activity about rooting this phone is a year or more old and with the deals and such that are being thrown around now to move the remaning stock off shelves there will be ( I'm sure ) many newcomers to the phone and this forum so an updated collection of thoughts on this I figured would be welcome especially if there was some input from the veterans of this phone. And again thank you

JRngln said:
I never said that root in and of itself took out anything, it's the stuff we take out once we root. Your not sure what tracking I'm referring to, Look up Carrier IQ .
I charged this phone turned it on bypassed activation shut off the networks just to play around with it and it was still reporting network traffic, How, Why?
This phone has the ability to get past the switch thats thrown when you shut off your data connections. I did just activate the phone, I had forgot to turn data back on before doing so, but it didn't matter; after phone booted up and was settling in I saw the 3g icon pop up in the status bar, thats what reminded me, [I thought I shut that off] and sure enough it was still off, yet it still sent data, but where to? I'm not set on anything yet, yes I'm trying to get many opinions and I thank you for your input this phones been out for a while now and many things have changed since it was first released, like ICS, and htc unlock of the hboot. Much of the activity about rooting this phone is a year or more old and with the deals and such that are being thrown around now to move the remaning stock off shelves there will be ( I'm sure ) many newcomers to the phone and this forum so an updated collection of thoughts on this I figured would be welcome especially if there was some input from the veterans of this phone. And again thank you
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Our phones dont have carrier IQ...

Zax_Was_Here said:
Our phones dont have carrier IQ...
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Are you sure? And I hope your right . Still our privacy is being taken away from us more and more each and every day

JRngln said:
Are you sure? And I hope your right . Still our privacy is being taken away from us more and more each and every day
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verizon htc phones do not have any CIQ at all (at least as of gb)

nitsuj17 said:
verizon htc phones do not have any CIQ at all (at least as of gb)
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I know that that's what they had said Officially But I OFFICIALLY have my doubts . Have you ever checked it out with the app?

JRngln said:
I know that that's what they had said Officially But I OFFICIALLY have my doubts . Have you ever checked it out with the app?
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as a matter of fact yes i have, our stock rom 5.xx is clean
the ports may or may not have it (depending if it was cleaned out or not by individual dev) but since its not running on the phone/carrier it was meant to, it wouldnt properly function
honestly i never really cared that much, i think the ciq drama was blown out of proportion

nitsuj17 said:
as a matter of fact yes i have, our stock rom 5.xx is clean
the ports may or may not have it (depending if it was cleaned out or not by individual dev) but since its not running on the phone/carrier it was meant to, it wouldnt properly function
honestly i never really cared that much, i think the ciq drama was blown out of proportion
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I'm glad to hear that.
Blown out of proportion? Not really, Think about it you send someone a text messg and CIQ knew what the text said BEFORE your intended recipient even recieved it,....... before you even sent it!

JRngln said:
I'm glad to hear that.
Blown out of proportion? Not really, Think about it you send someone a text messg and CIQ knew what the text said BEFORE your intended recipient even recieved it,....... before you even sent it!
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idk, doesnt really affect me...but the Sprint guys were all up in arms about it...mabye if i had a phone that it was an issue on id care more

Anyways, I flashed a custom ROM and CIQ would be gone anyways. I think nowadays we have to realize that we are going to always be tracked in some way.

JRngln said:
I'm pretty sure that once you root they know it cause all there tracking, or most of there tracking software goes offline for them, and they know that the only reason, for the most part, that the phone dissapeared is root.
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Yep, I checked, it appears you did say that, but anyways... things are easier with the s off alpha rev x method but the other way will work too so whatever floats your boat...
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Rooting GB v.62

Hello everybody..I have Xperia Arc S..currently on GB with firmware v.62..every period of time I check this lovely and respected forum of urz wishing there's a way to root my device without the need to unlock bootloader..but unfortunately nothing new..I managed to root v4.0.4 ICS without unlocking the bootloader..and frankly I can't imagine y we can't do so in GB..it's really frustrating guys..any ideas??I may be wrong but I don't know and can't believe our innovative and creative developers still didn't figure out a way around this..any help or opinion is really appreciated guys..thanks alot

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1560777

thanks for ur reply but this method don't work anymore cause the update now offers the 4.04 which I don't want cause it sux frankly..so I can't update to .62..I was hoping for another method

omarfaieq007 said:
thanks for ur reply but this method don't work anymore cause the update now offers the 4.04 which I don't want cause it sux frankly..so I can't update to .62..I was hoping for another method
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Of course, never thought. I wouldn't say it sucks, might do if you play a lot of games from what I can gather, but other than that it's alright imo.

yeah I play games and most of them have issues..also multitasking is hell..the whole thing is not fitting me..thx anyway 4 ur help friend

Locked bootloader

So I have a zl from Rogers and the bootloader isn't unlockable so I decided to contact Sony and see if they could do it but the response I got wasn't encouraging they said they can't unlock it either. Seems kind of dumb to me. I'm hoping someone can figure out a way around it. Maybe something like the old arcs where you use a contact point and software to unlock. Ok end of rant lol
Ok One more thing if we could figure out how Sony signs the kernels maybe that could be another option for people like me
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zombiej79 said:
So I have a zl from Rogers and the bootloader isn't unlockable so I decided to contact Sony and see if they could do it but the response I got wasn't encouraging they said they can't unlock it either. Seems kind of dumb to me. I'm hoping someone can figure out a way around it. Maybe something like the old arcs where you use a contact point and software to unlock. Ok end of rant lol
Ok One more thing if we could figure out how Sony signs the kernels maybe that could be another option for people like me
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This is already covered many times e.g. :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2413678

Keyboard Fix?

Since i updated to my wifes and eldest daughters Xperia S to the latest UK SIM free firmware (.200 i think it is) the phone refuses to stick with the keyboard you choose which is a bit annoying given they have both purchased Swype, any solutions on how to stop it reverting to the Xperia keyboard.
(they wont let me root them so thats not an option)

MrBelter said:
Since i updated to my wifes and eldest daughters Xperia S to the latest UK SIM free firmware (.200 i think it is) the phone refuses to stick with the keyboard you choose which is a bit annoying given they have both purchased Swype, any solutions on how to stop it reverting to the Xperia keyboard.
(they wont let me root them so thats not an option)
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Did you try setting the default input method in "Languages and input" under settings? I've that option on my phone

yeah and before you know it both phones have reverted to the Xperia keyboard.

Unfortunately that was a known issue with the .200 firmware. I think paid widgets would also disappear from the home screen after a reboot in this firmware.
The latest firmware available for the Xperia S is 6.2.B.1.96. This update doesn't have those issues anymore. I am on O2 UK and the latest update shown for me was .200. I used flashtool to flash a ftf file of the latest. 96 update on to my phone. I do not have these issues with the keyboard or widgets disappearing.
Your best bet is to flash the .96 firmware on to these phones. It is like doing an official update and doesn't invalidate any warranties you may have on your devices.
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Tar mate, i might have to go down that road (if i can persuade them) because its driving them a bit mental.

I noticed yesterday on my daughters Xperia S it refuses to let you use icon packs with Nova Launcher as well, well i lie, it will let you pick them and kid you in to thinking they are there and before you know it the phone has reverted back to stock.
Sony should have shot the Xperia S at birth, its not been right or perfectly usable in stock form since it was released.

just flash the latest firmware with flashtool, it's not unofficial or voids any warranty or anything like that. it's fine and good to use
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Ben36 said:
just flash the latest firmware with flashtool, it's not unofficial or voids any warranty or anything like that. it's fine and good to use
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As i said in my original post the phones belong to my wife and my eldest daughter, im not sure if you have ever tried to convince a female family member that flashing their phone via a non standard method is a good idea but if you have you will understand that your testicles are under threat of being separated from your corduroysack unfortunately.

MrBelter said:
As i said in my original post the phones belong to my wife and my eldest daughter, im not sure if you have ever tried to convince a female family member that flashing their phone via a non standard method is a good idea but if you have you will understand that your testicles are under threat of being separated from your corduroysack unfortunately.
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Well try to convince them to send it to Sony to 'fix' the problem,if they don't want,you can 'fix' it :3
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MrBelter said:
As i said in my original post the phones belong to my wife and my eldest daughter, im not sure if you have ever tried to convince a female family member that flashing their phone via a non standard method is a good idea but if you have you will understand that your testicles are under threat of being separated from your corduroysack unfortunately.
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lol true. but just tell them it's an 'alternative official method'
or just march in and exclaim "WOMEN! I'm the man of this house and I fix things! now stop your whinging and give me your phones!,,, in fact!! where's my tea?? get cooking!!"
see how that goes
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Ben36 said:
lol true. but just tell them it's an 'alternative official method'
or just march in and exclaim "WOMEN! I'm the man of this house and I fix things! now stop your whinging and give me your phones!,,, in fact!! where's my tea?? get cooking!!"
see how that goes
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LOL after 25 years of marriage i can tell you now it will result in my knackers being fed to the dog

Marshmallow root

So my turbo just updated to marshmallow, and I'm curious as to whether that opened the door to root and possibly bootloader unlock. BTW the Moto x force thread needs to be moved from this one. They're 2 different phones. I mean they're the same, but anything on Verizon is always going to be different. We all know this. Chime in guys!

blkhrt13 said:
So my turbo just updated to marshmallow, and I'm curious as to whether that opened the door to root and possibly bootloader unlock. BTW the Moto x force thread needs to be moved from this one. They're 2 different phones. I mean they're the same, but anything on Verizon is always going to be different. We all know this. Chime in guys!
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Too soon to tell if it opened up any possible exploits, best thing is to keep an eye on this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo-2/general/root-discussionthink-tank-t3239979
The X-Force question came up before, mods said it's basically the same phone so it's not getting it's own section.

If anything, it patched a bunch of exploits and made it that much harder to root the phone. Unless Motorola does the same thing as they did with the one Moto X on Verizon, I doubt the bootloader will ever be unlocked.
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I feel like this could happen one of 4 ways.
1. Good ol diggin round code.
2.Motorola employee helps us.
3.someone me (I've tried) but both Motorola reps and Verizon reps are unhelpful but someone might do better. Maybe get it " escalated"
4. Just hope....
Also I just really think it's possible to get past the people who know nothing about it and find someone willing to help.. Then again maybe just simply wishful thinking.

jayman94fly said:
Also I just really think it's possible to get past the people who know nothing about it and find someone willing to help.. Then again maybe just simply wishful thinking.
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^^^This. Whoever has had success cracking BLs on Verizon Moto devices in the past might help, or at the very least point you in the right direction. You also might be able to get some of the CM devs that have worked on VZW Moto devices in the past.

I know Verizon has been notorious about locking their phones down for a while now, but can it really be completely locked? There has to be something there that can be cracked right? Nothing is impossible right?

Hey, guys, I haven't checked in for awhile, but would someone be willing to work on it for a bounty? I mean if we could pool together somewhere between $500-$1k wouldn't it be worth it for someone who has a ton of knowledge in this comeover and help?
I'd be willing to donate to that cause even though my sig says otherwise...

Same here I second that, seems the hard part would be setting this up, I mean this is a great phone if devs would come on board

Rooted and installed twrp KINZIE today. Followed a italian tutorial for the Moto X Force. Android 6.0
http://www.androidiani.com/forum/mo...moto-x-force-ottenere-i-permessi-di-root.html
I would pay too if somebody hopped on the developer train for the X-Force !

Blubbking said:
Rooted and installed twrp KINZIE today. Followed a italian tutorial for the Moto X Force. Android 6.0
http://www.androidiani.com/forum/mo...moto-x-force-ottenere-i-permessi-di-root.html
I would pay too if somebody hopped on the developer train for the X-Force !
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You rooted your droid turbo 2?

Digital DJ said:
You rooted your droid turbo 2?
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No he has the moto x force it's confusing they shouldn't be posting in this thread they can root this is about obtaining a root exploit. To be honest I don't care that he rooted his phone it's not such a triumph the damn phone is unlocked.

bigv5150 said:
No he has the moto x force it's confusing they shouldn't be posting in this thread they can root this is about obtaining a root exploit. To be honest I don't care that he rooted his phone it's not such a triumph the damn phone is unlocked.
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That's what I thought. Still not sure why the mod won't separate the threads. It gets stupid and confusing...

Digital DJ said:
Hey, guys, I haven't checked in for awhile, but would someone be willing to work on it for a bounty? I mean if we could pool together somewhere between $500-$1k wouldn't it be worth it for someone who has a ton of knowledge in this comeover and help?
I'd be willing to donate to that cause even though my sig says otherwise...
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There is a bounty thread started in Q&A
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo-2/help/root-droid-turbo-2-bounty-t3339484

I want to change the ugly, unintuitive material design soft buttons.
I know that verizon locks down their phones.
I want to root so that I can get back the old Holo soft buttons (ics, jelly bean, kitkat) and maybe holo blue.
I know from experience that root can make a device much more laggy.
This is my main and only phone that I can use, so I don't want to take many chances.

SecretPotatoChip said:
I know that verizon locks down their phones.
I want to root so that I can get back the old Holo soft buttons (ics, jelly bean, kitkat) and maybe holo blue.
I know from experience that root can make a device much more laggy.
This is my main and only phone that I can use, so I don't want to take many chances.
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Who told you root makes a phone lag that is 100% false. Anyway there is no root method at this time.

I have a droid razr that I rooted in jelly bean. Since that, it's more laggy and unresponsive. Probably because of the root processes running in the background

There is no such thing as "root process". Root is just about rights to access particular part of the system, run specific commands or applications.

Digital DJ said:
You rooted your droid turbo 2?
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He is asking for an X-force developer (since there's a lack of roms) so gonna say no.

Zeljko1234 said:
There is no such thing as "root process". Root is just about rights to access particular part of the system, run specific commands or applications.
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Yea he just doesn't know what he's talking about here, maybe he installed something that was eating away at the CPU or RAM or both, also may have been a bad root method to

jayman94fly said:
Yea he just doesn't know what he's talking about here, maybe he installed something that was eating away at the CPU or RAM or both, also may have been a bad root method to
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Maybe he's talking about supersu...