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I know a lot of people are coming from the EVO 3D...
Anyway i have a few question becuase im reading stuff about flashing issues...
I was about to flash a ICS ROM(Paranoid or CM9) and i read that i have to be carefull beacuse if i want to go back Nandroids will not work?
Well how do i make a Nandroid that works? I read that the only way to go back is flashing Stock via Odin(Im i wrong?)
I just finish the rooting process and im ready to install ICS ROM.
In the evo way, only thing i need it to do was nandroid, wipe, install from zip, DONE.
Thanks guys!
rockypr said:
I know a lot of people are coming from the EVO 3D...
Anyway i have a few question becuase im reading stuff about flashing issues...
I was about to flash a ICS ROM(Paranoid or CM9) and i read that i have to be carefull beacuse if i want to go back Nandroids will not work?
Well how do i make a Nandroid that works? I read that the only way to go back is flashing Stock via Odin(Im i wrong?)
I just finish the rooting process and im ready to install ICS ROM.
In the evo way, only thing i need it to do was nandroid, wipe, install from zip, DONE.
Thanks guys!
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Basically make a nandroid with GB recovery the flash ics. If you want to restore Odin GB rom then nandroid restore.
Every rom should have instructions and as long as they are followed you should be safe.
Look up sfhub (I think) and agats custom recovery threads for more info.
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rockypr said:
I know a lot of people are coming from the EVO 3D...
Anyway i have a few question becuase im reading stuff about flashing issues...
I was about to flash a ICS ROM(Paranoid or CM9) and i read that i have to be carefull beacuse if i want to go back Nandroids will not work?
Well how do i make a Nandroid that works? I read that the only way to go back is flashing Stock via Odin(Im i wrong?)
I just finish the rooting process and im ready to install ICS ROM.
In the evo way, only thing i need it to do was nandroid, wipe, install from zip, DONE.
Thanks guys!
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Nandroids are perfectly safe, the only time when they're not safe, is when you make/restore from one on ICS.
The problem with all these ICS leaks, is a bug plaguing the emmc, which I believe that some methods of using ICS recoveries makes it wipe or something. Point is, it causes a brick. Here is the method that I use when flashing ICS, which works for most ICS ROMs, as most ICS ROMs need an EL26/EL29 framework. Pretty sure Paranoidandroid recommends this method, too.
Download these drivers
Download this: OC ODIN File for EL26 and this: E4GT Root Utility
Using Titanium Backup, make a backup of all your stuff, or use your preferred back-upper, just not nandroid. I recommend buying the Pro version, because it will save you so many times, and the dev is great. It's a little expensive though for an app.
OC Odin back to EL26. The good thing about this is, the process is straight forward, and doesn't add to your flash counter, and does not yellow triangle either.
Open up e4gtauto-sfx.exe, option C, then I. This gives you CWM, And just in case, I do not recommend using other than standard CWM to flash ICS roms. but that's me.
When your phone reboots, it should have CWM, and be rooted, just load up the flashing files onto your sd card, load up CWM, do 1 system data wipe, and flash the files in the order they have to be flashed.
Also, really important, DO NOT DIRECTLY RESTORE FROM A NANDROID You will most likely cause a brick if you do.
If you want to go back to GB, you have to Odin back to GB, and THEN you can perform the Nandroid Restore.
F3L1XZS said:
Nandroids are perfectly safe, the only time when they're not safe, is when you make/restore from one on ICS.
The problem with all these ICS leaks, is a bug plaguing the emmc, which I believe that some methods of using ICS recoveries makes it wipe or something. Point is, it causes a brick. Here is the method that I use when flashing ICS, which works for most ICS ROMs, as most ICS ROMs need an EL26/EL29 framework. Pretty sure Paranoidandroid recommends this method, too.
Download these drivers
Download this: OC ODIN File for EL26 and this: E4GT Root Utility
Using Titanium Backup, make a backup of all your stuff, or use your preferred back-upper, just not nandroid. I recommend buying the Pro version, because it will save you so many times, and the dev is great. It's a little expensive though for an app.
OC Odin back to EL26. The good thing about this is, the process is straight forward, and doesn't add to your flash counter, and does not yellow triangle either.
Open up e4gtauto-sfx.exe, option C, then I. This gives you CWM, And just in case, I do not recommend using other than standard CWM to flash ICS roms. but that's me.
When your phone reboots, it should have CWM, and be rooted, just load up the flashing files onto your sd card, load up CWM, do 1 system data wipe, and flash the files in the order they have to be flashed.
Also, really important, DO NOT DIRECTLY RESTORE FROM A NANDROID You will most likely cause a brick if you do.
If you want to go back to GB, you have to Odin back to GB, and THEN you can perform the Nandroid Restore.
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Great info THANKS!!!!...
Also there is no problem to flash that EL26 file? when my stock is el29?
rockypr said:
Great info THANKS!!!!...
Also there is no problem to flash that EL26 file? when my stock is el29?
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For OC ODIN, you don't have to worry about flashing, just plug your phone into the computer once you have the program running, an the drivers, and you'll be fine.
And yeah, you can go back using ODIN.
You just shouldn't use CWM to flash an older version of something if you're on the newer version.
So if install ICS and I want to return to GB the safe thing to do is run Odin back to stock rooted then Nandroid Restore?
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So if install ICS and I want to return to GB the safe thing to do is run Odin back to stock rooted then Nandroid Restore?
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That is correct.
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My device is currently rooted on GB28. I was able to use a nodata version. If I want to be able to flash ROMs, from what I understand I need to flash a custom recovery, preferably EL26, before flashing the custom ROM. If I need to always flash the recovery first, then will I always end up wiping my data every time I want a new custom ROM? If so how do people easily restore the data like it was before a wipe?
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My device is currently rooted on GB28. I was able to use a nodata version. If I want to be able to flash ROMs, from what I understand I need to flash a custom recovery, preferably EL26, before flashing the custom ROM. If I need to always flash the recovery first, then will I always end up wiping my data every time I want a new custom ROM? If so how do people easily restore the data like it was before a wipe?
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The preferred way to get cwm prior to flashing roms is indeed el26, due to the fact that it is a safe kernel to flash and not worry about the Emmc bug. Some roms you can do a dirty flash over, but most require a clean install to prevent conflicts that could cause you to bootloop. For restoring data, Titanium Backup is what I use to save and restore all my downloaded apps. I don't particularly if I lose text/calls, but if you are, there are apps on the play store that allow you to save those as well. Tb has that feature as well, but as I said, I don't save those, so can't speak for them. Flashing new roms gives me an excuse to clear out my old texts, calls, etc, lol. Once you flash a custom rom, you can flash build appropriate cwm kernel to go with it that has cwm so the next time you flash a mod, tweaks, etc, toy wont have to flash el26 again. Just boot into recovery, wipe cache/dalvik, flash mod, reboot, enjoy. Good luck, hope that helps.
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Hi all,
So I've gotten myself into a bootloop by messing with permissions/ownership in the /data/ directory. I would like to recover by losing as little data/settings as possible (I only rooted with chainfire AutoRoot anyway, so stock, rooted, ROM).
1) I have a few months-old TWRP backup, is it possible to extract what I need from this?
2) If not, what rom is my best bet to flash to recover a stock, rooted ROM, with my old data? I tried re-flashing CF-AutoRoot, but it didn't do anything...
Thanks for any help
Well first things first.
1. Did you install a custom ROM?
2.or backup your rooted stock?
3. Did you already do a full wipe
(Data/factory reset)
4. If you didn't do step 3 but you did step 1...I would advise a dirty flash of the custom ROM that you had
4. If only step two is applicable I only see two possible routes
4.1a. Use Odin to update twrp or download a new custom stock ROM and flash that so you can boot...then try and update twrp to the newest version and then try to flash your backup to see if it was a version problem
OR
4.1b. Start from scratch but I would advise using cwm from now on. twrp to my knowledge isn't updated as frequently as cwm
Hope that helps. Feel free to pm
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infamous916 said:
Well first things first.
1. Did you install a custom ROM?
2.or backup your rooted stock?
3. Did you already do a full wipe
(Data/factory reset)
4. If you didn't do step 3 but you did step 1...I would advise a dirty flash of the custom ROM that you had
4. If only step two is applicable I only see two possible routes
4.1a. Use Odin to update twrp or download a new custom stock ROM and flash that so you can boot...then try and update twrp to the newest version and then try to flash your backup to see if it was a version problem
OR
4.1b. Start from scratch but I would advise using cwm from now on. twrp to my knowledge isn't updated as frequently as cwm
Hope that helps. Feel free to pm
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Hi! Thanks for the reply!
I have not done a data wipe, and I would like not to...
I used CF-AutoRoot, I'm not 100% sure if this counts as flashing a custom ROM or not, it's supposed to keep stock ROM but give you SU. I have tried repeating CF-AutoRoot again, but it doesn't seem to fix the problem...
The only backup I have is of the full phone image, which I don't want to restore since it is months old and I would lose data... Is there a way to only restore selected files from the backup? So far I have restored CWM and can access an adb shell...
Thanks
OK so basically as far as I know you are Sol on your original rom ....that's why I always flash a custom ROM but the data stored should still be on your internal (pictures, videos, things of that nature). your app data and accounts however is not...for example games and such...I would advise titanium backup and do a backup of all your app data at least once a week from now on
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Agreed ...you are going to lose data in this case ...as you will need a restore of your old backup ..or fresh install of a new rom ...
Backups are king when playing with device roms and recoveries etcetera ..g
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Btw twrp has been updated
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So this is the situation,
I have SPH-l710 Rooted with CWM, I THOUGHT I made a backup of my stock system.....It made a image.zip and an image directory. SOOOO I flashed the phone with CM121...........In light of all the issues I could not get my camera to work with any app, them CM121 updated, Google play got stuck in a error force close loop that could only be avoided by logging into a separate user account on lollipop. Which is where the camera began to work oddly enough. Anyways I use my camera constantly and wanted to revert back to my 4.4.2 kitkat. SOOOO I booted into recovery and when I selected restore it couldnt find anything. So I installed from the image.zip and everything appeared to be fine EXECPT I couldnt get passed the second samsung logo right after the animation. Just stuck........How can I restore my poor phone back to my system image I have saved?
I tried this multiple times, then just reloaded CM121. PLEASE HELP!!!!!
the wipe/factory reset
wipe cache
wipe dalvik x 3
You could Odin back to stock. What modem are you on? (Ex. nj3, nd8, etc)
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You could Odin back to stock. What modem are you on? (Ex. nj3, nd8, etc)
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I did find an image.zip and an image directory with my full phone backup i assume minus the damn splash screen that started this whole thing in the first place. Would I just use odin to flash the image.zip file to restore my original os or would I use CMW and install from zip and use the image.zip file?
And thank you for replying, it's hard to get anyone to help sometimes.
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I did find an image.zip and an image directory with my full phone backup i assume minus the damn splash screen that started this whole thing in the first place. Would I just use odin to flash the image.zip file to restore my original os or would I use CMW and install from zip and use the image.zip file?
And thank you for replying, it's hard to get anyone to help sometimes.
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If you Odin to stock, you need a computer. You download the program (sadly Odin is leaked software so it's pretty shady; you could give Heimdall a shot but it didn't work for me, also Odin is Windows only and Heimdall is cross-platform) and then you download a .tar of a stock image and you plug your phone in in download mode and flash it.
However, there is no nj3 modem so you need to use an older one. Is your phone sprint, Virgin Mobile, boost, etc?
Edit: give this thread a look for info on stock .tars http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3121212
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Here's a good thread on instructions for flashing the ndc modem. If you use sprint, flashing nj2 should be the same process, just a different .tar. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2774333
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If you Odin to stock, you need a computer. You download the program (sadly Odin is leaked software so it's pretty shady; you could give Heimdall a shot but it didn't work for me, also Odin is Windows only and Heimdall is cross-platform) and then you download a .tar of a stock image and you plug your phone in in download mode and flash it.
However, there is no nj3 modem so you need to use an older one. Is your phone sprint, Virgin Mobile, boost, etc?
Edit: give this thread a look for info on stock .tars http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3121212
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I have Odin already from when I flashed cmw 6+ to the phone, but before I installed cm12.1 I used clockworkmod and made a backup image. It created a image.zip file, will this contain my original stock but rooted image?
aanddink said:
I have Odin already from when I flashed cmw 6+ to the phone, but before I installed cm12.1 I used clockworkmod and made a backup image. It created a image.zip file, will this contain my original stock but rooted image?
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I would assume so, however, I'm not sure. I've only used TWRP and a little Philz for recovery. Afraid I can't help you there, but someone else (or Google lol) might know
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I would assume so, however, I'm not sure. I've only used TWRP and a little Philz for recovery. Afraid I can't help you there, but someone else (or Google lol) might know
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OK I understand thanks, one more thing if I assume its a full backup of the phone would Odin be better to restore with or use whatever software created the backup?
aanddink said:
OK I understand thanks, one more thing if I assume its a full backup of the phone would Odin be better to restore with or use whatever software created the backup?
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I think Odin can only flash tars. Ideally, you'd want to restore the backup with the software that made it.
aanddink said:
I have Odin already from when I flashed cmw 6+ to the phone, but before I installed cm12.1 I used clockworkmod and made a backup image. It created a image.zip file, will this contain my original stock but rooted image?
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Cwm recovery does not create zip files. If you made a full backup in cwm it should contain system, data, and boot img files. Restore it in cwm recovery.
But to go back to KitKat from lollipop you must wipe internal storage in clockworkmod recovery first .(if that's the recovery you are using).
By the way cwm is pretty crappy. After you fix it, install twrp recovery.
madbat99 said:
Cwm recovery does not create zip files. If you made a full backup in cwm it should contain system, data, and boot img files. Restore it in cwm recovery.
But to go back to KitKat from lollipop you must wipe internal storage in clockworkmod recovery first .(if that's the recovery you are using).
By the way cwm is pretty crappy. After you fix it, install twrp recovery.
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Thanks for the reply, been tryin to get help for a while. So my version of CMW has the option to create an image backup & also create the same backup in zip format. Inside the zip and inside the image directory they have the boot img files and the system data and ect. I have 2 questions, 1 is what part of the internal storage needs to be wiped? I assume you mean format the system directory? which would wipe the os out at that point? And second since I have cmw installed if I wanted to put twrp on and not wipe the system yet would I need to just use odin and flash it to overwrite cmw? I installed cmw with odin to root the phone originally, cmw is not restoring my backups at all correctly so I would love something that would really work.
aanddink said:
Thanks for the reply, been tryin to get help for a while. So my version of CMW has the option to create an image backup & also create the same backup in zip format. Inside the zip and inside the image directory they have the boot img files and the system data and ect. I have 2 questions, 1 is what part of the internal storage needs to be wiped? I assume you mean format the system directory? which would wipe the os out at that point? And second since I have cmw installed if I wanted to put twrp on and not wipe the system yet would I need to just use odin and flash it to overwrite cmw? I installed cmw with odin to root the phone originally, cmw is not restoring my backups at all correctly so I would love something that would really work.
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By wiping internal storage, I mean internal sd card (data/media) not system.
If you cannot restore your backup, and are not worried about losing your data, I would recommend using odin to flash the whole stock .tar and starting fresh from scratch. Then re root by using odin to install twrp.
If you are on boost or virgin Mobile use the ndc tar.
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By wiping internal storage, I mean internal sd card (data/media) not system.
If you cannot restore your backup, and are not worried about losing your data, I would recommend using odin to flash the whole stock .tar and starting fresh from scratch. Then re root by using odin to install twrp.
If you are on boost or virgin Mobile use the ndc tar.
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Thanks for the info, I will look into the tar I just need to make sure it's compatible with NJ3 and I am on Virgin mobile. I attached a snapshot of the file cmw created, Im pretty sure I saw a post on how to convert that into a flash-able tar file by combining them into one. That backup is clean except for a screwy boot splash screen and being rooted but besides that it was the first backup. Do you know if twrp has any issues with CM12.1? If I can flash my backup and un-root I would be able to start from scratch and do it the right way this time. I attached the snapshot just for your opinion on if I can use my backup from my phone if you dont mind, also to install twrp if I can use my backup I would need to unroot then re-root with twrp correct? Any thanks so much for the responses
aanddink said:
Thanks for the info, I will look into the tar I just need to make sure it's compatible with NJ3 and I am on Virgin mobile. I attached a snapshot of the file cmw created, Im pretty sure I saw a post on how to convert that into a flash-able tar file by combining them into one. That backup is clean except for a screwy boot splash screen and being rooted but besides that it was the first backup. Do you know if twrp has any issues with CM12.1? If I can flash my backup and un-root I would be able to start from scratch and do it the right way this time. I attached the snapshot just for your opinion on if I can use my backup from my phone if you dont mind, also to install twrp if I can use my backup I would need to unroot then re-root with twrp correct? Any thanks so much for the responses
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If you put that back on your phone in the clockworkmod folder just restore it? If you flash the ndc tar in odin you will be stock unrooted. Ndc is the build before nj3. There is no nj3 tar so ndc is fine. If you manage to restore your backup and get going, you can just get the app flashify from the play store to install twrp. Get the image file of twrp 2.8.7.0 for sprint (d2spr) and install in flashify. Get it from twrp website.
Your backup only has system in it, it has no data. Next time do a full backup. System, data, and boot. You're trying to go from cm12.1 lollipop to KitKat touchwiz without a data wipe and restore. Won't work.
Honestly dude, you seem to have limited knowledge on this. Don't take that the wrong way at all. To save us both some time and get your phone working, just follow this
It's fine to flash over nj3. I'm on virgin Mobile and I've done it a couple times. Also do a factory reset to wipe data. Also wipe internal storage (data/media).
madbat99 said:
If you put that back on your phone in the clockworkmod folder just restore it? If you flash the ndc tar in odin you will be stock unrooted. Ndc is the build before nj3. There is no nj3 tar so ndc is fine. If you manage to restore your backup and get going, you can just get the app flashify from the play store to install twrp. Get the image file of twrp 2.8.7.0 for sprint (d2spr) and install in flashify. Get it from twrp website.
Your backup only has system in it, it has no data. Next time do a full backup. System, data, and boot. You're trying to go from cm12.1 lollipop to KitKat touchwiz without a data wipe and restore. Won't work.
Honestly dude, you seem to have limited knowledge on this. Don't take that the wrong way at all. To save us both some time and get your phone working, just follow this
It's fine to flash over nj3. I'm on virgin Mobile and I've done it a couple times. Also do a factory reset to wipe data. Also wipe internal storage (data/media).
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Not taken the wrong way, I am limited knowledge on the subject and that's why I ended up with problems. I appreciate the help since I could not get anyone to respond.
madbat99 said:
If you put that back on your phone in the clockworkmod folder just restore it? If you flash the ndc tar in odin you will be stock unrooted. Ndc is the build before nj3. There is no nj3 tar so ndc is fine. If you manage to restore your backup and get going, you can just get the app flashify from the play store to install twrp. Get the image file of twrp 2.8.7.0 for sprint (d2spr) and install in flashify. Get it from twrp website.
Your backup only has system in it, it has no data. Next time do a full backup. System, data, and boot. You're trying to go from cm12.1 lollipop to KitKat touchwiz without a data wipe and restore. Won't work.
Honestly dude, you seem to have limited knowledge on this. Don't take that the wrong way at all. To save us both some time and get your phone working, just follow this
It's fine to flash over nj3. I'm on virgin Mobile and I've done it a couple times. Also do a factory reset to wipe data. Also wipe internal storage (data/media).
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I appreciate the link, understand the process. Just wondering the link to the .tar file is broken (at least for the moment) I will continue to try it, do you know if the zip file from samsung-updates " L710VPUDND8 firmware version for Galaxy S 3 LTE (Sprint) "
will work also?
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I appreciate the link, understand the process. Just wondering the link to the .tar file is broken (at least for the moment) I will continue to try it, do you know if the zip file from samsung-updates " L710VPUDND8 firmware version for Galaxy S 3 LTE (Sprint) "
will work also?
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Nd8 will work, however nj2 is the sprint equivalent to nj3 (latest update). It works fine. It's the last one I used. You may need to do the dialer activation code to get service working after you flash. I think it's ##72786# . I'll check.
here is nj2.
For context, I want to clear up a few things before trying to root so I don't end up bricking the phone.
So after reading a few threads it seems even recovering via twrp is messed up in this phone. Can someone shed some light on this matter?
Can I restore system, data, and boot partitions via twrp in case something goes wrong (while staying on official miui roms everytime, I don't intend to install custom roms) and I have to revert the phone back to the state it was in at the time of a backup?
It feels like at the very least we would be required to re-flash the entire firmware via mi flash tool and then restore whatever is needed via twrp later. Will this work?
Also I hear using twrp to install the official firmware is not a good idea, what's that about?
I know long post and a lot of questions, so please bear with me.
Thanks.
Custom ROMs and Stock ROMs differ in one aspect, which partitions are left untouched. Since stock ROM is a lot more invasive and formats all partitions, official flash method is recommended.
When you mess things up, mi flash tool is safest option. Its safe to experiment, backup, restore on boot+system+data in TWRP across ROM installs but don't mess up recovery partition. Remember to format data between ROM installs unless dirty flashing on same android version
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Custom ROMs and Stock ROMs differ...
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I see. Thank you for the reply!