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[Q] AT&T NEXUS release date- Anyone know?

I returned my SkyRocket and was hoping to go without a phone until the NEXUS lands on the AT&T network.
I am starting to wonder if this was a smart move on my part- I didnt want to be stuck with a 2 year contract if the NEXUS was going to launch right around the corner and it was too late.
Anyone know of any rumors that the NEXUS might land on AT&T in the US?
I know it is on sale in Canada for the GSM vesion- I cant imagine the US is that far behind.

The last GSM version to pass through the FCC had AT&T 3G bands only, that doesn't necessarily mean AT&T will get the phone, but there's a good chance once Verizon's exclusivity ends.
AT&T has gotten the Nexus One and the Nexus a few months after it was released for T-Mobile in the US, I don't see why it wouldn't be the same wait again this time around.
Personally I think it would be better just to get the international GSM version of the Galaxy Nexus now, just because it supports an extra band (T-mobile's) and doesn't have any extra apps installed. Verizon has its own apps on the phone, AT&T might do the same this time around, who knows.

I was thinking that as well but the steep price is what is stopping me.

Anfeldt24 said:
I was thinking that as well but the steep price is what is stopping me.
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I was on the same boat but I sucked it up and pay up front cause I know I will come out ahead with a prepaid plan in the long run. And who knows it might reverse the depressing trend of being under Carrier's mercy for a new phone like right now.

I dont care about their policies, I was hoping they had lte on the NEXUS. I also would root it and throw a custom rom on it.
This way it is pure and custom to the programmers on here. I trust them more than the carriers. I mean after all - XDA exposed the carrier IQ

Anfeldt24 said:
I dont care about their policies, I was hoping they had lte on the NEXUS
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I don't believe the recently FCC passed "AT&T" Galaxy Nexus had any of the ~700MHz LTE frequencies listed. So doubtful that if/when AT&T gets the phone, it'll be a GSM/LTE device like Verizon's CDMA/LTE.

The Nexus release date will be in late february or early march.
Verizon has a 60 day exclusive launch for the nexus according to the Wall Street Journal.
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[Q]Should I buy a GN now!

Hi guys!
I want to buy a new phone now. Currently I have a nexus s.And is the best phone that I had ever. I like the support that it have and to many choices that I have with Roms.
What is better now to buy a Galaxy Nexus or should I wait for Htc One X or Galaxy SIII?

Question really is. Do you like stock android, sense or touchwiz? And I think you already answered your question.

Well if u do end up getting a GN deal alert got the GN for 529.99 on both colors for 24 hour sale ....check it out maybe that will help ur decision
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I'm along with what the other user said ... if you like HTC Sense get the HTC One Series.. if you like Touchwiz stay with the Galaxy S line
Don't get a GS3 or HTC One and ask for AOSP ICS roms
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that's too easy, Galaxy Nexus of course!

YoungAceAtlanta said:
I'm along with what the other user said ... if you like HTC Sense get the HTC One Series.. if you like Touchwiz stay with the Galaxy S line
Don't get a GS3 or HTC One and ask for AOSP ICS roms
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This, other than screen choices Hardware wasn't a big deal breaker for me. I want the AOSP feel. I came for a Samsung Infuse 4g. I was tired of waiting around for development. When I was shopping for a new phone I checked out phones the the AT&T GSII, Skyrocket, ect. Sure they had some development, but not too much. So instead of getting another phone where I'd be at the mercy of Samsung and AT&T to get Rom updates. So I made the best decision ever for a phone. I bought me a Galaxy Nexus. Now I don't think I will ever not own a Nexus series phone.
Since you stated you already have a Nexus S, I bet it will be hard for you to got to anything else that will be locked down and skinned. You will probably have withdraws pretty quickly.
In short, unless you are all about the latest and greatest hardware then get a GN, or wait a year for the next Nexus phone.

Yeah I remember when I had a Nexus One and left it for a HTC Sense Device. I mean the Hero and Evo had a lot of development but its nothing like having international users which means more development than just people who have ATT or sprint etc.
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You can't compare the device available now to future technology. LOL.
Future phones are always better, at least in terms of specs, so there's no end to the wait. Also, you could never have THE best phone.
PS. If you love the Nexus family then you will love GNex.

I don't mean to intrude on this topic but I am also wondering the same thing, except I'm coming from a Samsung vibrant and I can't seem to choose whether I want to get the Verizon nexus or buy a GSM nexus. Switching carriers isn't a big deal to me. Both seem to have their ups and downs. Some input would really help me decide. Thanks and sorry for hijacking your topic lol I just figured it'd be better than starting a new topic.
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DontJoinTheDarkSide said:
I don't mean to intrude on this topic but I am also wondering the same thing, except I'm coming from a Samsung vibrant and I can't seem to choose whether I want to get the Verizon nexus or buy a GSM nexus. Switching carriers isn't a big deal to me. Both seem to have their ups and downs. Some input would really help me decide. Thanks and sorry for hijacking your topic lol I just figured it'd be better than starting a new topic.
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It really depends on you and your lifestyle. Like do you travel abroad a lot or do do you hate Verizon (lol)?
If you are in the country most of the time then I don't see why you would go through the trouble of getting an unlocked GSM GNex. They are essentially the same when it comes to end user experience.

DontJoinTheDarkSide said:
I don't mean to intrude on this topic but I am also wondering the same thing, except I'm coming from a Samsung vibrant and I can't seem to choose whether I want to get the Verizon nexus or buy a GSM nexus. Switching carriers isn't a big deal to me. Both seem to have their ups and downs. Some input would really help me decide. Thanks and sorry for hijacking your topic lol I just figured it'd be better than starting a new topic.
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I say get the GSM nexus.. well that's because I'm on ATT. And I travel a lot.. VZW pretty much a dead outside the States.. the only thing that sucks is no one sells accessories for the GSM version where I live .. and If it breaks or stop working att can't replace it
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What device you get really depends on what you want. With the Galaxy Nexus the hardware might not be as good as other devices, it is miles ahead as far a software goes considering the open nature and dev support. If you don't plan on taking advantage of that and are more concerned with hardware, then get something else. I was tempted by the hardware and went to the G2x and then the GS2, I came back to the Nexus line. I missed the customization I had with my G1 and Nexus One.
While the Galaxy Nexus may be a little behind as far a hardware, but is by no means poor. But with the open software and available drivers, the software is way ahead of other phones.

well lets see the reason I'm debating about the two is this:
Verizon Nexus:
Pros: Service overall in Los Angeles is better. True LTE speeds. And 32gb built in versus the 16gb GSM version. Can get it for $100 on amazon.
Cons: stuck with Verizon and no chance of getting service outside of the US. Monthly bill would be $50 more expensive. And the whole android support issue about source?
GSM NEXUS:
Pros: can use on my $45 T-Mobile plan with 2gbs of data or switch to any GSM carrier I want. Development seems to not be stunted. Never had a problem with service.
CONS: $500 and no local hardware support in case of a problem. 16gb versus the 32gb version.
Lol I can't choose.
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DontJoinTheDarkSide said:
well lets see the reason I'm debating about the two is this:
Verizon Nexus:
Pros: Service overall in Los Angeles is better. True LTE speeds. And 32gb built in versus the 16gb GSM version. Can get it for $100 on amazon.
Cons: stuck with Verizon and no chance of getting service outside of the US. Monthly bill would be $50 more expensive. And the whole android support issue about source?
GSM NEXUS:
Pros: can use on my $45 T-Mobile plan with 2gbs of data or switch to any GSM carrier I want. Development seems to not be stunted. Never had a problem with service.
CONS: $500 and no local hardware support in case of a problem. 16gb versus the 32gb version.
Lol I can't choose.
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So if it costs $50 a month more on Verizon, with a minimum of 24 months is $1200, or $400 more once for the GSM. Not too tough a decision, though the 32GB would be nice.

DontJoinTheDarkSide said:
well lets see the reason I'm debating about the two is this:
Verizon Nexus:
Pros: Service overall in Los Angeles is better. True LTE speeds. And 32gb built in versus the 16gb GSM version. Can get it for $100 on amazon.
Cons: stuck with Verizon and no chance of getting service outside of the US. Monthly bill would be $50 more expensive. And the whole android support issue about source?
GSM NEXUS:
Pros: can use on my $45 T-Mobile plan with 2gbs of data or switch to any GSM carrier I want. Development seems to not be stunted. Never had a problem with service.
CONS: $500 and no local hardware support in case of a problem. 16gb versus the 32gb version.
Lol I can't choose.
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I would say go with verizon, cause if anything does happen to the phone you'll be covered. The service is great waaaaay better than T-mobile, yea the bill will be a lil higher but you get what you pay for, dependable service. The thing about the support issue is irrelevant, the Nexus(GSM or CDMA) will still be waaaay ahead of any other phone and will continue to get updates rather is be OTA or here at XDA(the dev support on here don't seem like it will die down anytime soon, so you have nothing to worry about with this phone)

If I could go back 3-4 months (or whatever it was) I wouldn't buy a Gnex today. I'm a little disappointed in the lack of fixes from google. We've been officially on 4.0.2 for almost the whole time, while they seem to cater to carrier phones more (verizon gnex).
I see no point in getting a nexus if google puts their phone 2nd to carrier demands. verizon gnex gets fixes and more attention. At this point there are newer and better phones coming out, and the appeal of getting ICS first is over, especially when google doesn't release updates.

It's not like the GS3 won't see CM and a plethora of AOSP roms. How many non aosp roms do we have?
I'd wait for the gs3 at this stage of the game. They are talking about a simultaneous world wide release.
Verizon is about the same as sprint price wise. Assuming you aren't stupid enough to pay $20 for testing when you already pay for data. Use Google voice for texting and grove IP to stretch out your minutes. Add a corporate discount and it might be cheaper.
TMobile is a true value carrier but their service can get pretty ****ty.

It don't matter what phone you get.. You only going to be king of your neighborhood/office for only a couple of months.. Then the next big thing is coming.. Hell people already talking about a Galaxy Nexus 2. Thats the thing that sucks about android.. its never one good phone..
You can: Get a VZW Nexus on contract for 2 years and be stuck.. and then have to pay full retail for the next big thing. (Which already seem like the HTC One and GS3) BUT! No one knows if VZW is going to get the Galaxy Nexus 2. or any HTC One device or even a GS3.. And even when the GS3 come out you wont be able to get it on a carrier to probly 3 months after international release
Or you can: Get the GSM Nexus and always sell it in the next few weeks or month (Since the Galaxy Nexus resell value is about $450-$600 on ebay for a used one)
Plus you can get a Pre-paid carrier like Tmo as the other user said n have ****ty service... or just use ATT or rogers w/e you use and save yourself the upgrade fees and signing a new contract

YoungAceAtlanta said:
It don't matter what phone you get.. You only going to be king of your neighborhood/office for only a couple of months.. Then the next big thing is coming.. Hell people already talking about a Galaxy Nexus 2. Thats the thing that sucks about android.. its never one good phone..
You can: Get a VZW Nexus on contract for 2 years and be stuck.. and then have to pay full retail for the next big thing. (Which already seem like the HTC One and GS3) BUT! No one knows if VZW is going to get the Galaxy Nexus 2. or any HTC One device or even a GS3.. And even when the GS3 come out you wont be able to get it on a carrier to probly 3 months after international release
Or you can: Get the GSM Nexus and always sell it in the next few weeks or month (Since the Galaxy Nexus resell value is about $450-$600 on ebay for a used one)
Plus you can get a Pre-paid carrier like Tmo as the other user said n have ****ty service... or just use ATT or rogers w/e you use and save yourself the upgrade fees and signing a new contract
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correct buy gnexus already came out with a very outdated gpu. it's gonna feel like a dinosaur in a few months when the new generation of powervr come out.
I think OP should wait for a quad core phone with an updated gpu. it'll way more feature-proof than galaxy nexus.

The Galaxy Nexus will always be a great device to they release the next Nexus..because HTC sense will always suck.. (I don't believe those demos they showed ) and Touchwiz will always be late on updates from Samsung or lack support
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Telus has discontinued the Galaxy Nexus

I read earlier today that Telus discontinued the Galaxy Nexus. I was rather surprised to read that since they only had it for 5 months. The S3 is not coming to Canada until July so that can't be the reason. I had a Telus GNex which was running 4.0.2 and I kept losing data connection. Also it had a dead pixel and a grainy screen. It was awful. I exchanged it for a Bell version only to find out it also had a dead pixel and grainy screen. I know there are threads on here about the screen issues. Samsung is aware of the screen issues. I asked them when the second batch will be out to Canada and they said they don't know. Is it possible that Samsung is going to discontinue to Galaxy Nexus? I know they are selling them directly from Google for $400. But that doesn't affect Canada because we can't even order from Google.
I love the GNex but not willing to spend $600+ for screen issues. I know I can buy it cheaper elsewhere, but I have an extended warranty plan with Best Buy.
Anyways, what are your thoughts on why or what Telus did?
Here's the link where I read about the GNex being disco with Telus.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/05/19/t...nta-nokia-lumia-800-on-the-discontinued-list/

I think it may be cause of the Google Play store possibly selling the galaxy nexus for $400 in canada. I don't see any other reason why.
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But it hasn't been confirmed if the Google Play store is going to sell it in Canada right? I went through 3 GNex's in one week. I'm thinking it's the issues a lot of people are having. Telus doesn't have the greatest lineup of phones. For them to discontinue the GNex is a big mistake. They could have easily dropped the GNex to $0 if the sales were that bad. I could be totally wrong. I never heard of a big carrier dumping a high end phone in such a short period of time.

Wirelessgirl said:
They could have easily dropped the GNex to $0 if the sales were that bad. I could be totally wrong. I never heard of a big carrier dumping a high end phone in such a short period of time.
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Well if they wouldn't be making money at $0 then they'd rather just not sell it...

martonikaj said:
Well if they wouldn't be making money at $0 then they'd rather just not sell it...
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On a 3 year contract, they make more money that way than selling them outright for $650.

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On a 3 year contract, they make more money that way than selling them outright for $650.
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But if they choose to just stop selling them, people will just buy a different phone at higher than $0 and still sign the contract. And if they discontinue it then they aren't selling them full price either.
What I'm saying is, they probably get the sale and contract either way, so it makes sense they'd push the higher priced phone that's selling better.
Still doesn't make sense to me that they'd discontinue it, but they obviously made the decision based on something.

If you can somehow work it out, just buy the unlocked version from Google play store for $400. Its a excellent bargain. Maybe get a friend in the USA.
I don't know if telus discontinued it. I saw ATT just stopped the sgs2 sky rocket due to the sgs3. Maybe telus is thinking that way too.

Did Canada ever get off of 4.0.2?

martonikaj said:
But if they choose to just stop selling them, people will just buy a different phone at higher than $0 and still sign the contract. And if they discontinue it then they aren't selling them full price either.
What I'm saying is, they probably get the sale and contract either way, so it makes sense they'd push the higher priced phone that's selling better.
Still doesn't make sense to me that they'd discontinue it, but they obviously made the decision based on something.
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Have you seen the lineup of phones from Telus? GNex is their best Android.
I doubt we'll get a reason why Telus discontinued it. It doesn't make any sense.

RogerPodacter said:
If you can somehow work it out, just buy the unlocked version from Google play store for $400. Its a excellent bargain. Maybe get a friend in the USA.
I don't know if telus discontinued it. I saw ATT just stopped the sgs2 sky rocket due to the sgs3. Maybe telus is thinking that way too.
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I'm going to wait and see if Telus decides to pass on the GNex to Koodo. They did that with the Nexus S. They might do the same with the GNex at a cheaper price.
Canadian carriers aren't getting the S3 until July so it doesn't make sense why they would discontinue it now.

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Did Canada ever get off of 4.0.2?
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We have yet to get 4.0.4. Rogers and Bell are still running on 4.0.1. Telus is running on 4.0.2.

Wirelessgirl said:
We have yet to get 4.0.4. Rogers and Bell are still running on 4.0.1. Telus is running on 4.0.2.
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Damn I sure do miss the Nexus One days. Everyone got the update without any of this regional bull****, you could even apply the update.zip with a stock recovery. I'm still waiting for 4.04 stuck on 4.01...
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Wirelessgirl said:
We have yet to get 4.0.4. Rogers and Bell are still running on 4.0.1. Telus is running on 4.0.2.
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Yakju had a 4.0.4 push and the update on Telus. I received it when I was at home on my PAYG sim. Also seem to recall reports of people on Bell getting 4.0.2.
It probably is just in advance of the S3 launch as it gives time to clear inventory space.

ceribaen said:
Yakju had a 4.0.4 push and the update on Telus. I received it when I was at home on my PAYG sim. Also seem to recall reports of people on Bell getting 4.0.2.
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Well of course the yakju devices got the update. The yakju or takju devices getting updated is completely independent of what carrier you're currently on.

Wow , after reading these posts I can see why Google wants to sell these direct. The whole point,imo, of a Google Experience Device is to be stock and get updates as soon as Google releases them. It defeats the purpose to have carriers sit on updates and have large chunks of non-root purchasers sitting around unhappy with old versions of Android that are in dire need of a bugfix.

redshirt72 said:
Wow , after reading these posts I can see why Google wants to sell these direct. The whole point,imo, of a Google Experience Device is to be stock and get updates as soon as Google releases them. It defeats the purpose to have carriers sit on updates and have large chunks of non-root purchasers sitting around unhappy with old versions of Android that are in dire need of a bugfix.
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EGGXACTLY
Galaxy Nexus AOKP m5 Franco kernel m3

msavic6 said:
Damn I sure do miss the Nexus One days. Everyone got the update without any of this regional bull****, you could even apply the update.zip with a stock recovery. I'm still waiting for 4.04 stuck on 4.01...
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That's because the Nexus One was sold directly from Google. If you buy the GNex from Google, you will get the Yakju version and would already have 4.0.4pushed to your device. Bell and Rogers are stuck on 4.0.1. Telus is stuck on 4.0.2. IMO, since this is a pure Android device, the updates should be pushed from Google, not the carriers.

Wow... this is disappointing news since I was just about to return mine under warranty to try and get one without a defective screen... Going to try Tuesday morning. I'll let you know how it goes!

You can buy a galaxy nexus for $439 from Expansys Canada.
http://www.expansys.ca/google-nexus-prime-android-smartphone-unlocked-16gb-224148/
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That's because the Nexus One was sold directly from Google. If you buy the GNex from Google, you will get the Yakju version and would already have 4.0.4pushed to your device. Bell and Rogers are stuck on 4.0.1. Telus is stuck on 4.0.2. IMO, since this is a pure Android device, the updates should be pushed from Google, not the carriers.
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Mine is from WIND and its stuck on 4.0.2 also.

osm0sis said:
Wow... this is disappointing news since I was just about to return mine under warranty to try and get one without a defective screen... Going to try Tuesday morning. I'll let you know how it goes!
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even if they discontinue it, they'll have plenty of refurbs available.

[Q] No nexus 4, now what?

Hey guys, mainly asking for your opinions so just let them fly.
I currently have a Thunderbolt and my contract is up at the end of November now I am trying to decide what to do next. I was fully anticipating going with the nexus 4 (I was prepared to never buy a non nexus device as long as Google keeps making them). Now that the nexus 4 will not be on Verizon and switching to at&t isn't an option since I get 25% off my bill through work, what would you guys do if you were in my situation? The Gnex is going to be cheap as hell when am eligible for an upgrade and am still considering it, should I be? Do you think Gnex development will slow down dramatically any time soon? I'd also hate to buy a phone with outdated hardware...do you guys run into hardware limitations withe the Gnex?
The only other phone that intrigues me is the galaxy s3. Mainly because it is so popular that I see there being a huge development opportunity there? I looked through the thread for the GS3 and it looks like there plenty of aosp roms and it looks to me like there will be quick updates for it as well. The biggest things I hate about the GS3 are the hardware buttons, I love the customisable soft keys in aosp and think that hard keys are so pointless anymore.
I'm pretty much against moto but if you really think I should look at something they have to offer, let me know.
Any thoughts and opinions are appreciated, thanks in advance.

pmr5019 said:
Hey guys, mainly asking for your opinions so just let them fly.
I currently have a Thunderbolt and my contract is up at the end of November now I am trying to decide what to do next. I was fully anticipating going with the nexus 4 (I was prepared to never buy a non nexus device as long as Google keeps making them). Now that the nexus 4 will not be on Verizon and switching to at&t isn't an option since I get 25% off my bill through work, what would you guys do if you were in my situation? The Gnex is going to be cheap as hell when am eligible for an upgrade and am still considering it, should I be? Do you think Gnex development will slow down dramatically any time soon? I'd also hate to buy a phone with outdated hardware...do you guys run into hardware limitations withe the Gnex?
The only other phone that intrigues me is the galaxy s3. Mainly because it is so popular that I see there being a huge development opportunity there? I looked through the thread for the GS3 and it looks like there plenty of aosp roms and it looks to me like there will be quick updates for it as well. The biggest things I hate about the GS3 are the hardware buttons, I love the customisable soft keys in aosp and think that hard keys are so pointless anymore.
I'm pretty much against moto but if you really think I should look at something they have to offer, let me know.
Any thoughts and opinions are appreciated, thanks in advance.
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My advice? Wait and watch. See how the N4 actually pans out as a device itself. It could be a hardware flop for all we know at this point. There were certainly fun hardware issues with the Gnex.
Then wait a bit longer for the HTC DNA. It might turn out to be a barnburner, or something to burn the barn with.
Then make a decision.

I'm not sure if the Moto RAZR i or HD is a good option or not for you.
Its up on you dude. go out & explore something new and one more thing that the GS3 is a pretty good option.
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I would wait if I where u. If u really need a new phone I would say the galaxy as 3 is a good choice. I have the gnex with Verizon and I love it. I dont have no issues at all my signal is always good i dont drop any calls or never go into 3g lol. (Must be my area i live in) Only problem I see u having is the storage capacity. The gnex on Verizon is now offered with only 16GB. No more 32GB. But as stated before, wait it out a few more months and see what's around the corner. If anything get a used nexus from craigslist for like 250 bucks to hold u over. That way up don't waist your upgrade on a phone u might regret
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25% off of Verizon's prices is still more expensive then Straight Talk or T-Mobile prepaid.... why not get a Nexus 4 anyway and stop signing contracts?

c0LdFire said:
25% off of Verizon's prices is still more expensive then Straight Talk or T-Mobile prepaid.... why not get a Nexus 4 anyway and stop signing contracts?
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The answer for most people? Coverage.
Coverage, Coverage, Coverage.

If you have a Thunderbolt, that means you still have unlimited data right? So if you're planning on buying a Nexus anyway, you might as well just find an unlocked one (i've seen used ones for ~$150-250) so that you won't have to upgrade. If I remember correctly (and I might be wrong), but Verizon only takes away the unlimited data when you try to upgrade.

No offense, but then he'd be stuck with T-Mobile's network and current lack of LTE. I root for T-Mobile; however, I was miserable when I was using them in suburban Denver, due to relatively inconsistent/slow data.
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davisbs999 said:
No offense, but then he'd be stuck with T-Mobile's network and current lack of LTE. I root for T-Mobile; however, I was miserable when I was using them in suburban Denver, due to relatively inconsistent/slow data.
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You can use AT&T's towers via Straight Talk if T-Mobile isn't great for your area. AT&T's HSPA+ network is pretty expansive.
Also, he wouldn't be "stuck" with anything - he could take the SIM card out and flush it down the toilet if the service bothers him. That's the beauty of not having a contract

I had the gnex on Verizon and loved it, except for one crucial issue-battery life. Sure, this was remedied somewhat by getting spare batteries, but this got to be a pain in the ass.
I currently have the Verizon SIII and love it (I find the dev community to be more than adequate). Yet I agree that it is worth waiting for the inevitable next greatest thing. The DNA does look to be badass
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Yeah the main reason why I stay with Verizon is coverage and my discount. At&t is the only other viable option, all the others are spotty at best around where I live.
Yeah I never thought of trying to get a gnex off contract. That would probly be the best option seeing that I'm getting married in June and will most likely have to revamp my plan for me and the wife anyway.
My friend just got the s3, he doesn't root or anything like I do but I can still bug him about the battery life at least.
My Thunderbolt has spoken.

Step 1: Buy Straight Talk AT&T Sim
Step 2: Buy Nexus 4
Step 3: Drop Verizon
Step 4: Save money
Step 5: ????
Step 6: ... CONTINUE TO SAAAAVE
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iArtisan said:
Step 1: Buy Straight Talk AT&T Sim
Step 2: Buy Nexus 4
Step 3: Drop Verizon
Step 4: Save money
Step 5: ????
Step 6: ... CONTINUE TO SAAAAVE
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I've only ever dealt with Verizon so can you include a few more details? Isn't straight talk sprint, but you're saying at&t sim?
My Thunderbolt has spoken.

The only way I'll be buying a Nexus 4 is if it's gifted to me.
I honestly want to wait it out for MWC and HTC's 2013 lineup.

davisbs999 said:
I had the gnex on Verizon and loved it, except for one crucial issue-battery life. Sure, this was remedied somewhat by getting spare batteries, but this got to be a pain in the ass.
I currently have the Verizon SIII and love it (I find the dev community to be more than adequate). Yet I agree that it is worth waiting for the inevitable next greatest thing. The DNA does look to be badass
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I'm not real big on the next best thing, the S3 would be in that category for me. Do you stick with touchwiz ROMs or aosp (or aokp)?
I have a sour taste in my mouth for HTC and I'm sick of waiting. I thought I waited for the next best thing with the Tbolt when I was coming from the OG droid. Samsung at least gets it right with their flagship devices. They don't come out with almost an identical phone but with more bugs worked out 3 months later.
I'll wait till Christmas and see what all comes but that's as long as I'll wait.
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The only way I'll be buying a Nexus 4 is if it's gifted to me.
I honestly want to wait it out for MWC and HTC's 2013 lineup.
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How do you buy something gifted to you?

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I've only ever dealt with Verizon so can you include a few more details? Isn't straight talk sprint, but you're saying at&t sim?
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Straight talk offers an AT&T SIM that gives you unlimited* everything for $45/mo. I think it's actually their most popular plan.
*2-5gb of data before they start to nag, depending on how the stars align for you. Since, you know, unlimited is never actually unlimited in the US anymore...

If you are only with verizon because of the discount, try calling up another phone company and see if they can match the offer or sweeten the pot for you. My brother gets a corporate discount with Bell (here in Canada) and so he called up Rogers (who he's with), and told them that he can get such and such plan for such and such price and asked if he can match it otherwise he'd switch. I forget the specifics of what he got but he was able to get a discount because of it.
Otherwise, just wait like many others said. Perhaps you can get a sweeter phone than the nexus.

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How do you buy something gifted to you?
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don't be annoying like that
To OP: I'm in a similar situation actually, except that I use a GNex right now instead of a TurdBolt. Nobody knows if a Nexus 4 will come to VZN, but I'd probably just buy a GNex until something better rolls around later. And if you do have unlimited data, DO NOT UPGRADE! I cannot fathom losing my unlimited data at this point of my spoiled-data-consumption life. And the development for the VZN GNex is pretty healthy actually. Nothing to complain about, especially when you know you have a reliable connection at the end of the day.

I'm in agreement there, I dumped my tbolt for a gnex and it was a huge step up. You can grab one for fairly cheap off contract now too. I have little to complain about besides battery being a moderate problem. It still beats the tbolt for battery life by quite a bit though, and has given me better data reception. My main urge to upgrade is called 'upgraditis'. For now I'll be trying to treat the symptoms.

VZW Owners- Where to Next?

It's almost that time for those of us who got the VZW variant on release day. My upgrade is listed as May 15th which i'm sure is the same for many of us.
I have been going back and forth between the S4 and the X Phone even though we have very little on either at this point. I was grandfathered into unlimited data with my Galaxy Nexus and desperately want to keep it so the X Phone would be the clear winner since it's rumored to launch on the Play Store with a low price like the Nexus 4 was. On the other hand the Galaxy S series has always out shined the Nexus line in terms of pure specs. I really want to make the jump to the 5 inch form factor especially with a 1080p screen. I'm thinking that if the S4 lives up to the spec rumors and has a good development scene like the S3 does I'll be buying it outright and thus keeping my unlimited data with it.
What does everyone think about my choices and what are you looking into for your upgrade?

When march 15th comes, leave verizon, buy a new nexus, profit.
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I got my gnex some months late, so I've got until September.. Since that's forever in phone time, its too soon to tell for me.
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When march 15th comes, leave verizon, buy a new nexus, never have reception.
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Fixed that for my area.

Ya dropping Verizon isn't an option for me either due to my family plan and reception.
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I'm not married to a carrier so unless Verizon gets another Nexus phone between now and next April when my contract is up, I'll be leaving Verizon. I have an N4 on Tmobile which works fine for me, so I'll be happy to ditch Verizon, better coverage be damned. My only complaint about T-Mobile is the maximum 50 MB of data roaming per billing cycle. That's tough because I have a lot of family out in eastern KY that I visit regularly, and T-Mobile doesn't, and probably never will, have service out there. I could burn through 50 MB checking Twitter and Google+. Thank God for wifi.
Now, should Verizon get the next Nexus in October or November, whenever it comes out...I might seriously consider it because I don't mind paying the money for the better coverage. But it has to be a Nexus. I'm not interested in any Android phone that doesn't run vanilla stock Android or get quick updates. Let's be honest, Verizon's approval process may delay updates, but the VZW Gnex still gets updates faster than any other phone Verizon has ever offered. That's the beauty of having no middleman. Updates come right from Google after VZW approval. Win.

Already Switched
Couldn't wait the contract out when I realized I'd been using custom ROMs on my Nexus since March as Verizon will never update in a timely manner.
Went with Galaxy Note 2 the day it became available on Verizon. Not a single regret - fast, huge screen, battery lasts forever, LTE but also works on GSM when I need it to. Just get the best that's available in your timeframe, there's always something better round the corner.

Agreed. When I got my Galaxy Nexus I told myself I wouldn't get anything other than a nexus. I'm also a crack flasher and always looking for new things to load up on the phone. But after seeing how great the dev scene was for the S3 I started looking at the S4.
The bootloader is unlocked on the s3 I'd assume right? Was that through Samsung or did the community get it unlocked?
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Agreed. When I got my Galaxy Nexus I told myself I wouldn't get anything other than a nexus. I'm also a crack flasher and always looking for new things to load up on the phone. But after seeing how great the dev scene was for the S3 I started looking at the S4.
The bootloader is unlocked on the s3 I'd assume right? Was that through Samsung or did the community get it unlocked?
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Every variant of the S3, except Verizon's version, comes factory unlocked. You can use odin to flash whatever you want.

Didn't know that. Hmm I guess I'll have to wait till after the announcement to get some info on the bootloader on the VZW variant. But according to the leaks there's is one version of the device that supports all radios so I'd assume that it will be unlocked.
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Didn't know that. Hmm I guess I'll have to wait till after the announcement to get some info on the bootloader on the VZW variant. But according to the leaks there's is one version of the device that supports all radios so I'd assume that it will be unlocked.
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Actually, I guess the bootloader isn't truly "unlocked" in a Nexus sense where you can use fastboot to flash whatever you want. What "unlocked" means on the Galaxy S III is that it doesn't have a NAND lock. On most phones, the bootloaders have a hard NAND lock that checks for a signed recovery and kernel image every time the phone boots up. If it detects unsigned stuff (like ClockworkMod recovery or a custom kernel), the bootloader will go into an error state and won't boot.
The Galaxy S III has no such check, so you can use Odin (a Samsung proprietary tool) to flash whatever you want and the bootloader will allow it to boot. It just has no NAND lock. If you have an HTC or Motorola phone and you use one of their "bootloader unlock tools" to "unlock" your bootloader, all you're doing is shutting off the NAND lock. The Galaxy S III comes that way from the factory, except for Verizon's version.
So yeah...not truly unlocked in the Nexus sense, but still a hell of a lot easier than 99% of phones out there. The only device I can think of that had a NAND lock from the factory but could be unlocked Nexus style (NAND lock disabled and allowed to flash whatever you wanted openly via fastboot) was the Motorola Xoom. Of course, the Xoom was functionally a Nexus in everything but its name.

I'm gonna wait out the end of my contract. I'd switched to VZW from a Nexus S on T-Mo because at the time, VZW had the new Nexus and my work started offering a monthly plan discount. I've had great reception and speeds with VZW. But having been with android since the first day the Nexus One became available, I've been disappointed with the updates to the Verizon GNex.
Shortly after my contract with Verizon is up, I'm getting the latest (but not the Nexus 4) unlocked Nexus from the play store and switching to a cheaper GSM month-to-month plan.
For me the two main points that will make me change back to GSM is the cheap-ish pay as you go plans and the update cycle of a Google controlled Nexus.
Whenever the GSM Nexus 5 (or whatever it will be called) is available unlocked on the Play store is when I'll make my move.

I've been seriously thinking about waiting for the S4, but I'm also tempted by the DNA, especially if the price drops. But the big thing now for me is price since the new policy on unlimited data kicked in. Never was a big consideration for me before, but I would go broke from the overages if I took the subsidy
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Waiting to see what the X phone is all about. And more importantly where the updates will come from. Otherwise I'm waiting until my contact expires in 2014 and leaving Big Red.
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Another launch day buyer here. Part of a family plan, really like the service/price and unlimited data. I'd love to buy a cheap ass nexus 4 on gsm off contract but given my situation it's really not an option(Verizon has the best service across Colorado and I travel a fair amount).
I was pissed with big red getting so far behind on updates, I almost gave in and got the DNA but I knew it would be a bad move. I finally installed cm10.1 about a month ago and it feels like I have a new phone.
That being said, I can wait a little longer and will definitely consider the s4. I loved the original idea behind the x phone but the latest rumors have it being a failure or just a regular phone. I really like the gnex size and do not want to go beyond a five inch screen. I'm a tall guy with big hands but do not like note 2 size.
Will just wait till IO and see what comes about.
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There really is no phone worth waiting for other than lg optimus g pro or lg nexus 5. Period.
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vince7 said:
There really is no phone worth waiting for other than lg optimus g pro or lg nexus 5. Period.
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Exactly. VZW's entire phone lineup is absolutely worthless to anyone who wants stock, vanilla Android and quick updates. It's the Galaxy Nexus or nothing right now. The GNex may not get updates as fast as the GSM models, but it still gets updates faster than any other VZW phone.
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I've got close to a year of waiting, and highly doubt I could give up VZW. Updates being timely or not. Maybe there'll be a Note 3 by then.
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I hate losing a pure android experience. So due to the fact that Verizon has failed to offer a pure android phone as of late....looks like I'm keeping this.
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I'm thankful that I live in an area where VZW isn't my only option. My Nexus 4 is on T-Mobile and they have good service here in central NC. The problem with T-Mobile is that the overwhelming majority of their network is 2G/EDGE. Literally, once you get 15 or 20 minutes outside a major metro area, you're on 2G. Plus, their hard capping of data roaming to 50MB per billing cycle (even on the unlimited plan) is rough. But... you can't argue with the price and (in my experience) the customer service.
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It's really a dilemma. Just switched over to vzn, got a family plan with wife and both are happy with reception where we need it. And the main reason to move was the galaxy nexus and lte. Now I feel stuck. My only hope is the xphone or whatever it'll be called. Hope it's out this summer.
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