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I currently work for an indirect sprint store. I been waiting for the ISC update. Well today my regional manager from sprint came in. He said last night around 3 am he got an update for ice cream sandwhich, and its real. He doesn't hack his phone or anything. So just wait a little bit and its coming out. I can tell you that it doesn't have face recognition, but its alot faster than the gingerbread that was on there.
Pictures or it didn't happen. Just kidding. That's great news. Happen to remember the build number. Just wondering because the first update might not contain face recognition.
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Was there like a date he had in mind? Like early next year or late this month?
EDIT: I think its suppose to be ICS by the way man.
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I currently work for an indirect sprint store. I been waiting for the ISC update. Well today my regional manager from sprint came in. He said last night around 3 am he got an update for ice cream sandwhich, and its real. He doesn't hack his phone or anything. So just wait a little bit and its coming out. I can tell you that it doesn't have face recognition, but its alot faster than the gingerbread that was on there.
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pics or it didnt happen. trust me, if it was coming, engadget and other sites would have been all over it because the et4g is still one of the co-kings of android along with the new nexus
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Plus you have the wrong ICS! So a troll pointing out a troll.
Looks like there is some truth to this based on some google searching for the past 24 hours:
http://translate.google.com/transla...fficial&biw=1024&bih=660&tbs=qdr:d&prmd=imvns
http://translate.google.com/transla...fficial&biw=1024&bih=660&tbs=qdr:d&prmd=imvns
Dude hasn't posted anything in almost 2 years, he is either a troll who owns an iphone now...
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HE IZ RITE AND ICS IS ALMOST HER!1!!!!!!1
FYI
From the Samsung Mobile Twitter Feed
More: http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entry/Samsung-Galaxy-S-II-to-get-the-ICS-4-0-1-Update-during-Jan-2012
I want to get excited too. Should our excitement be tempered by the fact that our device is a modified version of the GS2? The hardware is very different from the regular GSII from what I understand. Can't that cause delays?
Everyone called me a troll when I said I was going to get pushed an update early a few weeks ago, hopefully it is true, we will see. With the maintenance release just coming out though, I find it hard to believe ICS is just around the corner. Two otas in such a short period does not make much sense.
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btate0121 said:
I want to get excited too. Should our excitement be tempered by the fact that our device is a modified version of the GS2? The hardware is very different from the regular GSII from what I understand. Can't that cause delays?
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Our excitement should be VERY tempered. OG Epic users went through the same thing when GB was leaked for the i9000 (the int'l galaxy s). This time the leak is for the i9100 (the int'l galaxy s 2). I would not anticipate it will be of much use for us.
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I want to get excited too. Should our excitement be tempered by the fact that our device is a modified version of the GS2? The hardware is very different from the regular GSII from what I understand. Can't that cause delays?
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The hardware is identical to the international and att Gs2 except for the radios. Its easier said than done to convert it to CDMA without samsungs source code.
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odub303 said:
Our excitement should be VERY tempered. OG Epic users went through the same thing when GB was leaked for the i9000 (the int'l galaxy s). This time the leak is for the i9100 (the int'l galaxy s 2). I would not anticipate it will be of much use for us.
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Exactlt. Just cause the international version might get it in january doesnt mean we will. I dont believe the ops story. Take a pic of his phone's about phone info.
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bbedward said:
The hardware is identical to the international and att Gs2 except for the radios. Its easier said than done to convert it to CDMA without samsungs source code.
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pardon my ignorance but the addition of the LED, the larger screen (even the ATT version has a different size screen and the epic is certainly larger than the international version) and the processor also varies doesn't it? Do those differences not make difference?
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Everyone called me a troll when I said I was going to get pushed an update early a few weeks ago, hopefully it is true, we will see. With the maintenance release just coming out though, I find it hard to believe ICS is just around the corner. Two otas in such a short period does not make much sense.
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Isn't the latest OTA dealing with the LOS and some other issues? I'd assume they can't really wait until the ICS and leave customers hanging that much longer with all the backlash.
im just letting you guys know... i know i haven't posted anything in a long time but i read and go through these forums almost everyday.. i just don't post things but usually other people post what i have to say.... so take it for what its worth, i personally don't really care if you guys think im lying its all good.
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Everyone called me a troll when I said I was going to get pushed an update early a few weeks ago, hopefully it is true, we will see. With the maintenance release just coming out though, I find it hard to believe ICS is just around the corner. Two otas in such a short period does not make much sense.
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This update date may be the one that allows the device to be updated to ICS. Im sure one of the Delvs will dig into the files to see the differences(other than CIQ)
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pardon my ignorance but the addition of the LED, the larger screen (even the ATT version has a different size screen and the epic is certainly larger than the international version) and the processor also varies doesn't it? Do those differences not make difference?
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the screen doesn't matter they are the exact same screen just different sizes. Processor, CPU, gpu, wifi/bt chip, dac are all identical.
The LED is as simple as a kernel that supports it and a rom that uses it.
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Google opened the source. I believe Samsung did as well. There's a ROM for international s2 working with TW is there something i'm missing? Also, why is google allowing TW on ICS I thought the purpose of ICS was to eliminate having to wait for manufacturer/carrier updates and consolidate phones and tablets to the one OS to maintain and innovate.
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The Google's Android Alliance is dead. I believe that since manufacturer's are already going back on their word, they're still changing things up a bit. Besides, who would get an HTC if it ran the same software as Samsung's phones? (Or vice versa). The unique feel between all of these devices are marked by their UI, otherwise the phone with the best hardware will dominate all. (although I wouldn't mind an AOSP ICS rom for ourselves.)
More money could be invested in the hardware instead of cutting corners to save money for the programming. The net result would increase the lead over iPhone users. Which gives us better hardware, immediate updates, and more software as app Sellers would favor writing for Android. Just my 2 cents.
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jamesey said:
Thx for giving your thoughts on it as I concluded the same. It's a shame since imo this is the best device on sprint at the moment and some crappy phones already have ics roms.
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yeah and all the ics roms suck right now. just because they are out does not mean they are ready. damn people sure are impatient these days.
lafester said:
yeah and all the ics roms suck right now. just because they are out does not mean they are ready. damn people sure are impatient these days.
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The Nexus builds are nice but they aren't perfect. I use it as my daily on my NS4G but the battery life isn't the greatest. The devs probably decided to just wait for the official since we are supposedly going to be one of the next phones to get it. They could do it but there would be no 4g and Google quietly pulled the OTA update temporarily due to battery life issues. The gapps tax my battery big time..especially Google+. We will get our turn. In the meantime, try one of the themes with ADW EX or Go Launcher and you can have the look
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No official build yet.(period)
I just want you all to know that there is no official build at all for this rom yet. No beta at least. Sprint doesn't have it yet either. Sprint isn't testing the rom nor has Samsung sent them the rom. So, don't expect the update in the next month.
The way is works is Samsung sends it to Sprint. Sprint test it and Samsung fixes any issues. Sprint test it again and when they find no issues it gets sent to the consumer. Sprint doesn't even have it yet to test it.
And, there are people working on making a non official build but it doesn't work great yet. It is missing a lot of key features. I am thinking we might see some usable roms at the end of the month.
Sprint is currently fixing the ICS for the Nexus S. When that is complete they will start on the Epic. You might see that update in 2 weeks. The epic should be done in 6-8 weeks(this is a early guess, I will know more in 3 weeks).
Development is horrible for the epic touch on xda because every single thread, regardless of the original post, turns into a flame war. I have been told by two devs that this is the reason they stopped developing for the epic touch on xda.
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SEARCH BEFORE POSTING! ALL of this information is available elsewhere on this forum - sorry you don't want to search before you post. Or read other threads.
And the flaming and trolling - seriously?
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I was at Sprint the other day and I was talking with one of the repair technicians (I was exchanging my defective Epic Touch). He said some things that I haven't heard anywhere else. I asked about an ICS release date for the Epic Touch and he said some strange things. He was saying that Samsung may release ICS as an optional upgrade (not over the air). He said that consumers love Touchwiz too much and don't want the upgrade because ICS is too big of a UI change. Sounds like BS to me...
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That is complete bull****. If you ever want the real deal on a phone xda is the only way to.
From the official iPhone killer.
Zdidge said:
I was at Sprint the other day and I was talking with one of the repair technicians (I was exchanging my defective Epic Touch). He said some things that I haven't heard anywhere else. I asked about an ICS release date for the Epic Touch and he said some strange things. He was saying that Samsung may release ICS as an optional upgrade (not over the air). He said that consumers love Touchwiz too much and don't want the upgrade because ICS is too big of a UI change. Sounds like BS to me...
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The guy was talking out of his ass.
Actually this sounds very reasonable. For those of us here who update their ROM's frequently it's a non-issue. But the ICS upgrade would probably require the casual user to start over from scratch. I'm sure most of my family would just hate to reinstall and reconfigure their apps and other aspects of their phones.
This is true logically the ui changes are a lot so many people will wantnto leepnit the same
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Additionally, how many apps (free and paid) will not work with ICS? I'm sure that Samsung does not want to force people into ICS just to have a ****storm when regular consumers find that Angry Birds Rio isn't working right.
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Additionally, how many apps (free and paid) will not work with ICS? I'm sure that Samsung does not want to force people into ICS just to have a ****storm when regular consumers find that Angry Birds Rio isn't working right.
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I don't know if this is much of an answer but having used a kang of cm9 on a galaxy tab and 2 ics alphason my evo 3d I can say I didn't run into any that had major issues. Titanium works fine as did several launchers, news/readers, and games. I've got about 250 apps and none jump to mind that didn't work. I'm guessing that since the sdk was released a while back and several devices have alphas released devs have been able to code their apps for ics.
Thanks!
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I actually read an article saying something similar, but it didn't apply to the Sprint version. They were talking about GSM and were saying you will have to update using Kies.
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Zdidge said:
I was at Sprint the other day and I was talking with one of the repair technicians (I was exchanging my defective Epic Touch). He said some things that I haven't heard anywhere else. I asked about an ICS release date for the Epic Touch and he said some strange things. He was saying that Samsung may release ICS as an optional upgrade (not over the air). He said that consumers love Touchwiz too much and don't want the upgrade because ICS is too big of a UI change. Sounds like BS to me...
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The clueless tech was confusing the epic 4g with the epic touch. Samsung initially said the epic 4g wouldn't receive ics, then said they may release an ics lite version, then said they won't release anything for the epic 4g.
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hmmm i would have to go back to a stock kernel... how would i even– what am i saying i'd just flash the update
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Thats bull****. ICS touchwiz looks almost the same as GB touchwiz.
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If the evo view is any indication (updated OTA from gingerbread to honeycomb, an even bigger change imo), this is complete bs.
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That actually might not be bs. You people obviously didn't own the original Moment when it came out. It came with eclair and you couldn't update it to froyo over the air. You had to download an installation from sprint and it did a complete wipe. It was the only way to upgrade. ICS changes the framework of the ROM. It has a lot of major changes of how the OS works. It wouldn't surprise me if this would be the same again.
On my Epic mobile phone.
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That actually might not be bs. You people obviously didn't own the original Moment when it came out. It came with eclair and you couldn't update it to froyo over the air. You had to download an installation from sprint and it did a complete wipe. It was the only way to upgrade. ICS changes the framework of the ROM. It has a lot of major changes of how the OS works. It wouldn't surprise me if this would be the same again.
On my Epic mobile phone.
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Imagine the call center being flooded with noobs calling pissed off that they lost all their apps and saved information because of an OTA update. I agree sprint would be better off offering the update online.
I can tell you with the way sprint is about releasing information to its Agents and techs, The scene usually knows more then us about Updates and releases. We usually are not notified about releases until they happen. Any agent or store tech who says otherwise is mostly speaking out of their ass or is relaying info themselves found from sites like this. Wanna know how much warning we officially had on the iphone? They day we started preorders we had customers telling my training agents over the phone that we had it before we even had notification in our system for about an hour. Occasionally there are some managers in some deep dept's in tech who can provide info like when we got a estimated date on that one release to fix the LOS issue. But thats rare.
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That actually might not be bs. You people obviously didn't own the original Moment when it came out. It came with eclair and you couldn't update it to froyo over the air. You had to download an installation from sprint and it did a complete wipe. It was the only way to upgrade. ICS changes the framework of the ROM. It has a lot of major changes of how the OS works. It wouldn't surprise me if this would be the same again.
On my Epic mobile phone.
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First, 'ui changes'. False. We have leaked builds of ics touchwiz already. Major UI overhaul? I think not. Optional? Doubt it. Ics adds features just like gb did. Our phones are capable of handling the new software no problem and without this 'ui overhaul' people might not want, there is no reason it won't be given out to everyone. Even if it were to be optional, the employee that told the op the reason why it might be optional, that its big and so different, cannot be facts. Your post stating the reason for an online download only requiring a wipe is the only potential fact I've read in this thread =P
Other then the post stating tw ics looks just like gingerbread.
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Does anyone know if CM9 will have 4G for us in the beginning? Or will we have to wait. If they do have it for us, I would rather have CM9 than the Sprint update. The option of simply staying rooted without going through hoops, sounds good to me.
I imagine we will have to wait, but you have to admit, it would be wicked!
I was talking about how an OS written, not how it looks. That is the only reason I could think for that kind of install and a wipe. You are correct the UI is very similar. Even without Touchwiz not much changes, just added features. Like my momma said. It whats on the inside that counts.
On my Epic mobile phone.
No, it wont. We might not even have Cm9 first.
On my Epic mobile phone.
Please don't get excited I am just giving some generalized info that I got directly from a Samsung employee a few months back.
I was (as well as about 30 other people) told that we will have an official ICS release in the 1st quarter of 2012. That being said I think everyone can see the progress being made and I think its reasonable to believe that we can expect the official release either by the very end of this month or in the first week of April.
Side note: I am not a developer quite yet since I am working full time or caring for my infant child when I am home. I would like to say that all of the developers that are working on this phone are awesome, and that is whether they contribute mayhem and chaos to the community or they bring mountains of knowledge to the table. I only hope that all the rest of the devs sitting on their OG evos find a way to get their hands on one of our phone and get to blowing up the forums with more roms and more improvements on things. To all the devs... thank you very much for giving all of us an experience beyond that of the average user.
rayprobg said:
Please don't get excited I am just giving some generalized info that I got directly from a Samsung employee a few months back.
I was (as well as about 30 other people) told that we will have an official ICS release in the 1st quarter of 2012. That being said I think everyone can see the progress being made and I think its reasonable to believe that we can expect the official release either by the very end of this month or in the first week of April.
Side note: I am not a developer quite yet since I am working full time or caring for my infant child when I am home. I would like to say that all of the developers that are working on this phone are awesome, and that is whether they contribute mayhem and chaos to the community or they bring mountains of knowledge to the table. I only hope that all the rest of the devs sitting on their OG evos find a way to get their hands on one of our phone and get to blowing up the forums with more roms and more improvements on things. To all the devs... thank you very much for giving all of us an experience beyond that of the average user.
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I think it's safe to say we will get an official release before June. Which is essentially what you're saying.
SuperSwagSauce said:
I think it's safe to say we will get an official release before June. Which is essentially what you're saying.
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Wtf the epic 4g touch is getting ICS?!? Lol
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Wtf the epic 4g touch is getting ICS?!? Lol
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Sarcasm???
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Sarcasm???
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Im guessing it was lulz... I feel bad for the 3d users
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SuperSwagSauce said:
I think it's safe to say we will get an official release before June. Which is essentially what you're saying.
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Actually I am saying before mid April, that is also if they finish working out their bugs before then. I was on the last leak for a while and they are pretty close, just a few more adjustments and then I'm sure sprint will test it for a couple weeks and then we should have it.
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Actually I am saying before mid April, that is also if they finish working out their bugs before then. I was on the last leak for a while and they are pretty close, just a few more adjustments and then I'm sure sprint will test it for a couple weeks and then we should have it.
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You might be right..
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-israel-says-galaxy-s-ii-ics-update-coming-mar-15
As for all things Samsung, believe it when you see it.
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As for all things SPRINT, believe it when you see it.
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Fixed for you
With all the leaks and rdfs you cant deny Samsung ia doing their part...
Way way better than last years update
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FB27 is just about there. Just a couple more bugs to work out, and it's ready for release.
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Fixed for you
With all the leaks and rdfs you cant deny Samsung ia doing their part...
Way way better than last years update
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You realize this is ridiculous right? Sprint was the first carrier to get an official GB update for a Galaxy S phone. If you followed the leaks for the OG epic, you know that they had SERIOUS issues that did not get fixed until just before release (and some of them never did, there are still random reboots on stock devices, I see it every day at work).
Just take issue when people blame things on Sprint when in fact, it's a Samsung issue. Now, I personally believe the hiring of Cyanogen was part of a big push on their part to fix their reputation for being slow to update, and I think they are making a huge push right now to release ICS for the ET because they want to hang their hat on that and use it in the future. But in the past, this was a Samsung problem, not a Sprint one.
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You realize this is ridiculous right? Sprint was the first carrier to get an official GB update for a Galaxy S phone. If you followed the leaks for the OG epic, you know that they had SERIOUS issues that did not get fixed until just before release (and some of them never did, there are still random reboots on stock devices, I see it every day at work).
Just take issue when people blame things on Sprint when in fact, it's a Samsung issue. Now, I personally believe the hiring of Cyanogen was part of a big push on their part to fix their reputation for being slow to update, and I think they are making a huge push right now to release ICS for the ET because they want to hang their hat on that and use it in the future. But in the past, this was a Samsung problem, not a Sprint one.
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Preach!! I never left Froyo as my daily on my Epic. There were too many random issues on Gingerbread ...that was before I traded it in for a NS4G. I can't speak for how things are currently
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You realize this is ridiculous right? Sprint was the first carrier to get an official GB update for a Galaxy S phone. If you followed the leaks for the OG epic, you know that they had SERIOUS issues that did not get fixed until just before release (and some of them never did, there are still random reboots on stock devices, I see it every day at work).
Just take issue when people blame things on Sprint when in fact, it's a Samsung issue. Now, I personally believe the hiring of Cyanogen was part of a big push on their part to fix their reputation for being slow to update, and I think they are making a huge push right now to release ICS for the ET because they want to hang their hat on that and use it in the future. But in the past, this was a Samsung problem, not a Sprint one.
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Lol I should have put (carriers) instead of just sprint... I had the vibrant with Tmobile... I dont know much about the epic 4g other than development was what 4 people?
Worst variant ever produced (epic 4g)
If it didnt have to go through carriers we would have had GB when the i9000 did (international galaxy s)
Now the epic 4g may have had problems getting GB because it was nothing like the others (giant useless keyboard?)
ill say it again if ics didnt go through sprints hand we would have it the same the if not close to the same time the international sgs2 has it....
I blame carriers more for late updates but last year wasnt to good for Samsung... But you cant base that "argument" anymore because we are gonna have ics mid spring...
The evo 3d... Hmm maybe August?
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Lol I should have put (carriers) instead of just sprint... I had the vibrant with Tmobile... I dont know much about the epic 4g other than development was what 4 people?
Worst variant ever produced (epic 4g)
If it didnt have to go through carriers we would have had GB when the i9000 did (international galaxy s)
Now the epic 4g may have had problems getting GB because it was nothing like the others (giant useless keyboard?)
ill say it again if ics didnt go through sprints hand we would have it the same the if not close to the same time the international sgs2 has it....
I blame carriers more for late updates but last year wasnt to good for Samsung... But you cant base that "argument" anymore because we are gonna have ics mid spring...
The evo 3d... Hmm maybe August?
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Your argument now makes even less sense. The OG epic having the keyboard obviously didn't prevent it from being the FIRST Galaxy S device to get GB in the US. Yep, that's right, Samsung didn't release an official GB for ANY US GS1 device, until the Epic. So while there were challenges with 3rd party development (the keyboard wasn't the problem, a whole bunch of changes to the software and hardware were the problem), officially, it was first. And I would argue that the devs on the OG Epic are some of the best out there, adapting CM7 and CM9 to work on a device that is almost entirely unlike any other GS1. They continually took a device that is basically broken out of the box and turned it into a monster.
I mean no disrespect to the devs for our ET, as we have great devs here as well. We would be incredibly lucky to have devs from the OG epic come to our phone, as they are extremely talented and would bring a lot to our already excellent community. Please don't insult them again.
edit: I also should mention that the Epic was continually picked as the best GS1 varient by reviewers. Only one of the original 4 with a FFC, only one with 4G connectivity, only one with a keyboard. I would argue that the worst was the continuum, heh.
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Your argument now makes even less sense. The OG epic having the keyboard obviously didn't prevent it from being the FIRST Galaxy S device to get GB in the US. Yep, that's right, Samsung didn't release an official GB for ANY US GS1 device, until the Epic. So while there were challenges with 3rd party development (the keyboard wasn't the problem, a whole bunch of changes to the software and hardware were the problem), officially, it was first. And I would argue that the devs on the OG Epic are some of the best out there, adapting CM7 and CM9 to work on a device that is almost entirely unlike any other GS1. They continually took a device that is basically broken out of the box and turned it into a monster.
I mean no disrespect to the devs for our ET, as we have great devs here as well. We would be incredibly lucky to have devs from the OG epic come to our phone, as they are extremely talented and would bring a lot to our already excellent community. Please don't insult them again.
edit: I also should mention that the Epic was continually picked as the best GS1 varient by reviewers. Only one of the original 4 with a FFC, only one with 4G connectivity, only one with a keyboard. I would argue that the worst was the continuum, heh.
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Lol this is why I hate xda/xda app I try to summarize a point and people look at it in a way that I didnt intend.. But w.e. I didn't mean the keyboard was ths whole reason why the epic 4g got a screwy GB update... Sh%t none of the galaxy s devices had stable gps.. (stock)but the keyboard didnt help... Just like the 3d technology for the evo 3d is being blamed for late ICS update....
The point that got taken away by your love and knowledge for the ugliest (IMO) gs1 is that CARRIERS I feel are to blame for late updates... Without them we would have it sooner and many can agree.. While some can disagree and blame the manufacturer... Or hardware of the phone...
And for the whole development thing? I am simply stating the phone wasnt sought after hence not many developers... Stop reading sh%t that isnt there I never said the developers where garbage.. So relax...
And if you think a keyboard is a + then Ill leave this conversation at that... Lol
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Sarcasm???
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Bazinga....
Bear gri11z said:
Im guessing it was lulz... I feel bad for the 3d users
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Sprint has officially confirmed the evo 3d will get ics so don't feel bad. Sense is a little more heavy than twiz so it takes more time, HTC usually has their flagships updated by June.
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Sprint has officially confirmed the evo 3d will get ics so don't feel bad. Sense is a little more heavy than twiz so it takes more time, HTC usually has their flagships updated by June.
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I know but when I had my 3d (a month ago now my gf has it)
"they" (media/HTC) said it would be in the first wave of updates wigh the sensation/xe/vivid/rezound? Not sure if all of them where on the list but the sensation/3d variants where... Now its "later this year"
Its sad that last years company who seem to almost avoid major OS updates (Samsung) has picked up that "ball"
While HTC a well know manufacturer who pushes updates out (lagging with source) cant do as much for sprints "flagship" evo 3d (debatable)
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Bear gri11z said:
Fixed for you
With all the leaks and rdfs you cant deny Samsung ia doing their part...
Way way better than last years update
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I think it funny that when the LOS issue was hot and heavy it was sprints fault, now that ics is coming it is all Samsung. A little one sided? I think so.
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superbeast0 said:
I think it funny that when the LOS issue was hot and heavy it was sprints fault, now that ics is coming it is all Samsung. A little one sided? I think so.
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The LOS issue was never really a Sprint issue per say. While many people argue that fact the fact of the matter is rooted or not rooted the phone had LOS issues out of the box. Sprint didn't really do much network wise to ge the issue fixed it was Samsung pushing out updates that started to fix the problem so I'm pretty sure this can go back to Samsung again not Sprint. Before I ever rooted my SGS2 I had it for a month on stock and while I had 2-3 LOS issues it was nothing that either moving the phone to a different place where it was sitting or just rebooting it didn't fix.
That being said once I did finally root the phone a month after I got it the first few EG30 roms I had massive LOS on each one. While we had a LOS checker and it did help at times there was just no way of getting around it. sadly flashing back to a pure stock rom always fixed the issue however. Move to EK02/EL29 (EK02 mostly) and the LOS was pretty much a done deal and it was gone again this was a Samsung update for modem and software in general which now fixed the problems so I don't see how Sprint is to blame in any of it. Sure they went about it and said they have no reported issues with the phone when there really were issues (LOS mostly which was a huge one for some people) but there was almost nothing Sprint could have done about that other then talk to Samsung and have them fix their software which is what they ended up having to do.
so this has been a terrible issue with samsung since the galaxy s 1 days... im sick and tired of slow updates.. whats your thoughts on this ? will it change your mind on what phone to get next?
http://www.androidauthority.com/u-s-galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-update-released-coming-months-123557/
HRodMusic said:
so this has been a terrible issue with samsung since the galaxy s 1 days... im sick and tired of slow updates.. whats your thoughts on this ? will it change your mind on what phone to get next?
http://www.androidauthority.com/u-s-galaxy-s3-jelly-bean-update-released-coming-months-123557/
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IMO, It really doesn't matter! I have used JB and ICS on my phone, and other than Google Now, I don't see the need to update to JB.
I look at it like this... the standard consumer is not rooted. The OEM and carrier have to smooth out bugs, and make the transition from ICS -> JB a seemless integration. This makes for a better customer experience.
Thats the business man... why release a sub par product and have thousands of support tickets for small minor issues.
From your sig, you're running JB already.
Pretty depressing if you ask me. God if the new nexus phone wasn't being made by LG I'd probably be all over that thing at this point.
It will have 4.2 before we even get 4.1
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Telus' S3 will get JB before the end of November, so I'm thinking we should be very close by.
Full application of project butter in an official release of jb will be worth it. Only reason my nexus is still stock is that the only rom on the s3 that comes close to matching its fluidity, for me at least, is tasks aokp. It's night, and day. Slow rollouts of software are just one of those burdens of this era in development. Fortunately, the software is beginning to be more, and more worth it. Someday you'll lecture your grandkids on how we didn't have all this fancy "cognitive request firmware updates, and 5tb/second data speeds" lol
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jbizz said:
IMO, It really doesn't matter! I have used JB and ICS on my phone, and other than Google Now, I don't see the need to update to JB.
I look at it like this... the standard consumer is not rooted. The OEM and carrier have to smooth out bugs, and make the transition from ICS -> JB a seemless integration. This makes for a better customer experience.
Thats the business man... why release a sub par product and have thousands of support tickets for small minor issues.
From your sig, you're running JB already.
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i get what you mean man, but its seriously been 5 months, dont you think we could of had an updated by then? how long does it really take to release an update..
HRodMusic said:
i get what you mean man, but its seriously been 5 months, dont you think we could of had an updated by then? how long does it really take to release an update..
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*shrugs* there was an update from 4.0.2 to 4.0.4
I know what you're saying tho... I always look at devs like the CM team who have already put out updates way before the OEM and think... how come a billion dollar company is so slow?
I wish carriers would allow users to do soak tests and **** before release to send bug reports and stuff.
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Stupid app take out my cuss word! Hah!!!
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By the time we even get Android 4.1, Android 4.2 will already be out in the market.
First, 4.2 will not be key lime pie.
Second, its not Samsungs fault, its the carriers.
And being the carriers fault - you have to wonder. Do they each only have like 2 people working on the Updates...or wtf. lol
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I know what you're saying tho... I always look at devs like the CM team who have already put out updates way before the OEM and think... how come a billion dollar company is so slow?
I wish carriers would allow users to do soak tests and **** before release to send bug reports and stuff.
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Because when there is a bug in CM, they can go *shrug*, we'll add it to the known issues list, like the bluetooth audio not working right. When there is a bug in a carrier supplied ROM, think of all the people that are going to want to call AT&T and be like 'Hey this isn't working, FIX IT!'. That costs money to pay the customer service people and it costs money from a PR point of view.
The carriers strive to make things as bug free as possible (which, is laughable considering some of the updates some carriers have pushed out, or even the state of a phone at release *cough*G2x*cough*). If they don't do super extensive testing on everything BEFORE the release, they're going to have to do the same testing AFTER the release, but after it costs them money in customer service and PR image.
It sucks that another manufacturer/carrier is delaying the update. Do we buy a phone on the promise/hope we will see the next update? I don't. "Why am I not getting update XX" seems to be a common complaint. I came from the Atrix 2. Motorola promissed ICS and an unlockable bootloader. The phone is now borderline if not already end of life with At&t and is just getting the ICS update and still a locked bootloader. I bought my GSIII with the thought "cool I will get JB" but didn't care when. With all of the leaks available, if you want JB, you can get it. Seeing some of the bugs in the leaks, do you really want that to be your update? If you got the update and had these bugs, thered posts of "how could they release this buggy version?" Don't get me wrong, I would like to see manufactures and carriers stand by their word, but I realize there are more important things to worry about than why my update is delayed or not getting it. If you want a phone that guarantees you'll see an update, get a ,cough cough, Iphone. Not all features may work but hey, you'll get your update. My one and a half cents and a THANKS to the hard working devs that bring us these leaks and roms (FOR FREE) to satisfy our need to update. YOU GUYS ROCK!
This phone is awesome straight out of the box. I'm just a flash junkie and I love new shiny stuff. I wonder if there's a support group for flash addicts?
I dont understand why carriers have to tweak the software when samsung already does it. I dont think carriers change the software that much that it takes so long. Someone please enlighten me
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jmacdonald19 said:
This phone is awesome straight out of the box. I'm just a flash junkie and I love new shiny stuff. I wonder if there's a support group for flash addicts?
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Lol
I'm sure a huge population ate xda are
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viking2.0 said:
I dont understand why carriers have to tweak the software when samsung already does it. I dont think carriers change the software that much that it takes so long. Someone please enlighten me
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Its not the OS they are changing, it takes them this long to make their BS bloatware work.
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Its not the OS they are changing, it takes them this long to make their BS bloatware work.
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Well and doing carrier certification. I think that's more of what ends up taking a long time than updating any carrier add-on software.
Sprint is receiving their OTA to JB starting today. So I'm sure we're not too far behind.
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this sucks but never a problem with custom roms and Samsung is the easiest to update.
I'm new to Android, so maybe that makes me naive. But, I'd like to bring up a few points:
1) How do you know JB for the AT&T GS3 is delayed until 2013? No one has given a release date. Heck, it might be 2014 or 2015. It's misleading to post a title like that.
2) "Coming months:" this ambiguity goes both ways. Sprint released their GS3 JB OTA update today.
3) AT&T is taking long to update their bloatware?! There are three stupid apps: AT&T Hotspots, AT&T Messages, and AT&T Navigator. AND AT&T's already released the Note 2, which comes with Jelly Bean. Thus, these apps have already been updated to work with Jelly Bean!
The holdup on AT&T's part is something else...