Lost my root virginity with my E4GT (I are big noob at this stuff) and had some questions.
How do you go back to Sprint's stock EL29 with no CWM or root?
I have rooted EL29 with CWM on my E4GT.
How would the soon to be incoming OTA affect my phone? How would any OTA (possible stability fixes to FF18 and maybe JB) affect root and CWM?
If possible, would I be able to flash official FF18 with root over my EL29 root + CWM providing I wait for ODIN One-Click to be updated with official FF18?
Watch qbking77's how to unroot//unbrick video. Make sure its the latest one and he has links and step by step of what to do. It is very helpful as I am new too. I did this last night.
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AoARanger said:
Lost my root virginity with my E4GT (I are big noob at this stuff) and had some questions.
How do you go back to Sprint's stock EL29 with no CWM or root?
I have rooted EL29 with CWM on my E4GT.
How would the soon to be incoming OTA affect my phone? How would any OTA (possible stability fixes to FF18 and maybe JB) affect root and CWM?
If possible, would I be able to flash official FF18 with root over my EL29 root + CWM providing I wait for ODIN One-Click to be updated with official FF18?
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You could just apply sfhub's FF18 + root instead of waiting for OTA if you want. It is linked in the first post of the Official ICS OTA thread in General.
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You could just apply sfhub's FF18 + root instead of waiting for OTA if you want. It is linked in the first post of the Official ICS OTA thread in General.
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Wouldn't there some differences between sfhubs release and the official OTA like battery life, bugs, and stuff? I kinda wanna see the differences first =d
AoARanger said:
Wouldn't there some differences between sfhubs release and the official OTA like battery life, bugs, and stuff? I kinda wanna see the differences first =d
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Unlikely IMO - changes would be minor if any. One example mentioned in another thread was a different modem. In either case I'm certain we'll get another repack when OTA drops.
For my wife, she won't know the difference - hence I already did the update. I'll probably do mine again once OTA is pulled and repacked with root.
AoARanger said:
Wouldn't there some differences between sfhubs release and the official OTA like battery life, bugs, and stuff? I kinda wanna see the differences first =d
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Even if there is, you will not be able to root the OTA. When you take the OTA, OTA it unroots the phone. With there being no root exploit you then have to flash a rooted FF18 tar since your no longer on a firmware with CWM to flash a zip with.
If the FF18 that is OTA happens to be a slightly different revision of FF18 then to get root you will have to wait maybe 24 to 48 hours for someone to come up with a rooted tar or the tar for that revision to leak so you can flash it with mobile odin on a rooted phone.
If the OTA is the same as the leak then to get a rooted FF18 you have to either flash a cwm zip version from whatever rom your on, or flash a rooted tar/one click.
Eitherway all paths to a rooted FF18 do not involve taking the OTA. If you take the OTA the method you will use to get root is one of the methods you would use if you do not OTA.
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Even if there is, you will not be able to root the OTA. When you take the OTA, OTA it unroots the phone. With there being no root exploit you then have to flash a rooted FF18 tar since your no longer on a firmware with CWM to flash a zip with.
If the FF18 that is OTA happens to be a slightly different revision of FF18 then to get root you will have to wait maybe 24 to 48 hours for someone to come up with a rooted tar or the tar for that revision to leak so you can flash it with mobile odin on a rooted phone.
If the OTA is the same as the leak then to get a rooted FF18 you have to either flash a cwm zip version from whatever rom your on, or flash a rooted tar/one click.
Eitherway all paths to a rooted FF18 do not involve taking the OTA. If you take the OTA the method you will use to get root is one of the methods you would use if you do not OTA.
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This is all really good to consider, for anyone who is currently rooted, (like me) looking to go back to pure-stock (like me) to try out the OEM update.
However, I suspect not a big deal, because the purpose for going back to stock to check out the stock ICS update would be to run it for a few days to see how it is, what it's all about, at any rate. I have faith that there will be a rooted FF18 - in fact, isn't there already (sfhub's FF18 + root)?
True story - this is all my fault, the long delay for stock ICS to be released...
I waited months and months and months - since I got the phone, for the stock ICS update to happen. Rumors in March (and even some official press) were that it was just around the corner. Then the GSIII launched. Then some coworkers got the GSIII. Then my buddy got the GSIII. Then Google launches Jellybean... and still no ICS for us. Then my buddy flashes JB on his GSIII, and I'm still running GB... wtf.
So, two nights ago I finally said screw it - wiped my phone, rooted it, and installed the AOKP version of ICS.
So naturally, the very next day, they announce the stock ICS update.
I should have rooted my phone and installed an ICS ROM months ago. Sorry. :laugh:
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One reason that I want to go back stock, and try stock ICS, is for some Exchange account properties that may/must be Sprint exclusive...
You can set a peak/off peak sync schedule - important for me since I get an Email every 2-3 minutes at work when I'm in the office. I can set it to not check Email at all between 8am and 6pm, and then check every 15 minutes during "off peak" hours when I actually want to be notified of Email.
With these custom ROMs (or at least AOKP) you can't - all you can pick is a static frequency - every 15 minutes... all day.
So I'll be happy running the OTA update for a while, I'll root it in a few days, install a custom launcher (why haven't I seen anyone using Go Launcher? I like that one a lot on my GB, I'd use it on ICS if it works), and maybe some day a custom ROM if I can port or use the stock Email settings.
Has anyone else flashed a custom ROM and missed this particular feature?
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GiantJay said:
Watch qbking77's how to unroot//unbrick video. Make sure its the latest one and he has links and step by step of what to do. It is very helpful as I am new too. I did this last night.
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Couldn't I just use the CWM5 recovery to flash a new ZIP version of the stock kernel?
As it was, I personally went from ICS back to GB by flashing back to the EL26 kernel with CWM5, then restoring my most recent GB nandroid backup prior to upgrading.
I'd think I could use this CWM5 to just flash the stock kernel back without an issue. I think the general rule of thumb
Is there a link to this unrooting video? I'm not finding it, I've clicked through several of the links from the wiki on rooting, "how not to brick", etc.
Video would be helpful to watch, thanks.
I'd also think I could use the one click tool at this point. I used option C to flash CWM to my phone after getting root, option B is designed to remove root access.
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Running the orignal stock rom with odin method root from about october of 2011. Sprint update fails to load so I'll need to update my modem manually. Currently on EG30. Recently been finally getting the dreaded LOS everyone talked about for months.
Is there an easy way to do this without wiping? Im totally satisfied with my phone's performance, just need to upgrade this modem finally.
TIA!
OTA fails because it detects a rooted device. Head over to development section, modems are stickied (link at bottom). Flash with Odin. Will not wipe data.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391732
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patrick_1 said:
OTA fails because it detects a rooted device. Head over to development section, modems are stickied (link at bottom). Flash with Odin. Will not wipe data.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1391732
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Ok, I found the sticky:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352310
Seems there are a ton of modems now. What is the one sprint is using now? That is, the one that sprint is nagging me to upgrade to?
Well I upgraded to eg31 without a hitch. Seems sprint is still nagging me for an update. Is there a way to stop this message? Also, is eg31 the modem that sprint's OTA update installs?
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OTA fails because it detects a rooted device.
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OTA is not failing because it detected a "rooted" device per-se (it doesn't look for that at all)
It fails because the root method that was chosen accomplished its goal by using a modified kernel and the OTA patch update for the kernel won't work with a modified kernel. If the root method left the original kernel in tact and did the work through the ROM (as is done with the Auto Root sticky), then OTA would have worked (assuming no other changes other than root)
sfhub said:
OTA is not failing because it detected a "rooted" device per-se (it doesn't look for that at all)
It fails because the root method that was chosen accomplished its goal by using a modified kernel and the OTA patch update for the kernel won't work with a modified kernel. If the root method left the original kernel in tact and did the work through the ROM (as is done with the Auto Root sticky), then OTA would have worked (assuming no other changes other than root)
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You're right, I phrased it improperly! Thanks for clarifying for the op and the rest of us properly.
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LxMxFxD said:
Well I upgraded to eg31 without a hitch. Seems sprint is still nagging me for an update. Is there a way to stop this message? Also, is eg31 the modem that sprint's OTA update installs?
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Correct me if i'm wrong anyone but EG31 was a leaked version, caused most of us to initially be unable to upgrade to EL26...could only from 30.
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sprint's current ota is ek02. although the el29 modem is rumored to be the next ota. I believe you can freeze(if you are rooted) the system updates apk. I use titanium backup for it. just remember you won't be able to upgrade prl or profile or anything like that. if I am wrong please someone correct me.
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patrick_1 said:
Correct me if i'm wrong anyone but EG31 was a leaked version, caused most of us to initially be unable to upgrade to EL26...could only from 30.
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well eg31 actually did come factory on some phones. eg12 was eg30 without the patch. we had that for a long while until eg30 was pulled successfully. ek02 came next. then el13, el26, then el29.
patrick_1 said:
Correct me if i'm wrong anyone but EG31 was a leaked version, caused most of us to initially be unable to upgrade to EL26...could only from 30.
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Correct in concept.
EG31 is a leak of what we thought was EG30, but actually was built a day later. Parts were still labeled as EG30 or EG30-Rev5 which led to some initial confusion. The components were slightly updated from EG30, meaning for the purposes of the EK02 OTA update, it wasn't the same as EG30.
The OTA update that depended on EG30 was EK02 (not EL26)
sfhub said:
Correct in concept.
EG31 is a leak of what we thought was EG30, but actually was built a day later. Parts were still labeled as EG30 or EG30-Rev5 which led to some initial confusion. The components were slightly updated from EG30, meaning for the purposes of the EK02 OTA update, it wasn't the same as EG30.
The OTA update that depended on EG30 was EK02 (not EL26)
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Lol That's right....we've had so many "updates/leaks" got lost in my numbers! Thank you for clarifying sfhub.
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I recently rooted my phone following the instructions posted on this forum. Everything went great and I have been running my phone rooted for a number of weeks now (EK02).
Well, I redownloaded the e4gtauto-sfx.exe package, ran the OTA Compliance check for EK02-EL29 and everything was fine. I proceeded to go with options C and then L (Install BootImg EL29+CWM-Rogue) and that went without a hitch, rebooted and everything appears to be running fine. I checked my phone settings and noticed the following:
Baseband Version: S: D710.10 S.EK02
Kernel Version: 2.6.35.7-SPH-D710.EL29-CL852097
Build Number: GINGERBREAD.EK02
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Can someone explain why the baseband version and build number still say EK02? I was under the impression that information above would all say EL29. Should I run the OTA update?
Thanks.
ExitusLSU said:
I recently rooted my phone following the instructions posted on this forum. Everything went great and I have been running my phone rooted for a number of weeks now (EK02).
Well, I redownloaded the e4gtauto-sfx.exe package, ran the OTA Compliance check for EK02-EL29 and everything was fine. I proceeded to go with options C and then L (Install BootImg EL29+CWM-Rogue) and that went without a hitch, rebooted and everything appears to be running fine. I checked my phone settings and noticed the following:
Can someone explain why the baseband version and build number still say EK02? I was under the impression that information above would all say EL29. Should I run the OTA update?
Thanks.
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Can't explain to you why it still says that but I'm running EL29 ROMs and they still say baseband EK02 so don't run it again. It's updated and as long as its running fine, leave it alone.
Edit: After looking at QBking77's video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfZaALRWANQ&feature=player_embedded#!, at the 49 sec mark it shows build number EL29 and Baseband EK02. Hmmm, not sure what that means. So I guess at least the baseband should have changed.
lopezpm said:
Can't explain to you why it still says that but I'm running EL29 ROMs and they still say baseband EK02 so don't run it again. It's updated and as long as its running fine, leave it alone.
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Thanks for the quick reply.
I'm not running any custom ROMs at the moment. I just wanted the phone rooted. The interface looks the same as it did when I got the phone. When I update via the auto process I described above, is it only updating the kernel? Does the broadband version and build number refer to the user interface?
Total Noob here, but a friend rooted my phone (to give me WIFI tether, did not flash a ROM) yesterday and this morning Sprint pushed the EL29 update which I installed. Did I screw up by installing the OTA update on a root-only phone?
ExitusLSU said:
I recently rooted my phone following the instructions posted on this forum. Everything went great and I have been running my phone rooted for a number of weeks now (EK02).
Well, I redownloaded the e4gtauto-sfx.exe package, ran the OTA Compliance check for EK02-EL29 and everything was fine. I proceeded to go with options C and then L (Install BootImg EL29+CWM-Rogue) and that went without a hitch, rebooted and everything appears to be running fine. I checked my phone settings and noticed the following:
Can someone explain why the baseband version and build number still say EK02? I was under the impression that information above would all say EL29. Should I run the OTA update?
Thanks.
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I could be wrong, and if I am, I'm sure to be corrected. Your Baseband, kernel, and ROM (what the build number refers to) are all seperate parts. The Baseband I believe refers to your modem. It looks like the only thing you updated was the kernel, as the recovery (CWM-Rogue) is actually part of the kernel, not your ROM. Make sure the ROM you're running is EL29 based. To flash the updated EL29 modem, check out the Epic 4G Touch development forum, there is a thread stickied with all of the available modems that are flashable from CWM.
Did that help?
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ShoePhone said:
Total Noob here, but a friend rooted my phone (to give me WIFI tether, did not flash a ROM) yesterday and this morning Sprint pushed the EL29 update which I installed. Did I screw up by installing the OTA update on a root-only phone?
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You just lost root. Installing any update pushed by the carrier will remove your root access.
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I could be wrong, and if I am, I'm sure to be corrected. Your Baseband, kernel, and ROM (what the build number refers to) are all seperate parts. The Baseband I believe refers to your modem. It looks like the only thing you updated was the kernel, as the recovery (CWM-Rogue) is actually part of the kernel, not your ROM. Make sure the ROM you're running is EL29 based. To flash the updated EL29 modem, check out the Epic 4G Touch development forum, there is a thread stickied with all of the available modems that are flashable from CWM.
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Appreciate the help. That cleared a lot of things up for me.
Once I update those components to the appropriate EL29 components, do you know if the Sprint OTA update notification will go away or do I need to just go ahead and follow the stickied thread about disabling update notifications?
Thanks.
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You just lost root. Installing any update pushed by the carrier will remove your root access.
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How do I go about getting root back, without the help of my friend? Thanks for your help. Pretty sure he used the auto root method with et4g files, etc from what I watched him do.
Never accept OTA's once you're rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19269878
Read the whole thing 2 or 3 times. Watch the videos also by qbking77
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lopezpm said:
Never accept OTA's once you're rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19269878
Read the whole thing 2 or 3 times. Watch the videos also by qbking77
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So after reading the Autoroot thread you linked, am I interpreting it correctly that since I updated with the OTA EL29, I can't have stock root (as I had previously) but root + CWM Rom? If so, what does this change on my end as far as the Touchwiz interface, etc? Does tethering/Hotspot come automatically with CWM? Thanks for your patience as I am guessing these are pretty rudimentary questions.
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So after reading the Autoroot thread you linked, am I interpreting it correctly that since I updated with the OTA EL29, I can't have stock root (as I had previously) but root + CWM Rom? If so, what does this change on my end as far as the Touchwiz interface, etc? Does tethering/Hotspot come automatically with CWM? Thanks for your patience as I am guessing these are pretty rudimentary questions.
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I would just flash a stock rooted EL29 ROM with ODIN
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ShoePhone said:
So after reading the Autoroot thread you linked, am I interpreting it correctly that since I updated with the OTA EL29, I can't have stock root (as I had previously) but root + CWM Rom? If so, what does this change on my end as far as the Touchwiz interface, etc? Does tethering/Hotspot come automatically with CWM? Thanks for your patience as I am guessing these are pretty rudimentary questions.
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CWM or ClockworkMod Recovery is simply a custom recovery that is used for various purposes. With CWM you can do a nandroid backup,flash ROMs, Kernels, Themes, etc. A custom recovery is something you definitely want. The touchwiz interface will not be affected at all by achieving root or installing a custom recovery. Wifi-Tether is not something that is automatically installed with root, however once rooted, you should be able to install Wifi-Tether without any issues.
ShoePhone said:
So after reading the Autoroot thread you linked, am I interpreting it correctly that since I updated with the OTA EL29, I can't have stock root (as I had previously) but root + CWM Rom? If so, what does this change on my end as far as the Touchwiz interface, etc? Does tethering/Hotspot come automatically with CWM? Thanks for your patience as I am guessing these are pretty rudimentary questions.
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You can have exactly what you had before. If you want just root, you can have that. If you want root+CWM you can have that. If you want just CWM, you can have that.
What they plugged in EL29 is the exploit used by the Auto Root package (Option A) to achieve root. Instead of having you run Option A, I just did it for you and pre-rooted a EL29 ROM and packaged it as an ODIN One-Click.
Basically you just double-click on the ODIN One-Click, reboot your phone into d/l mode, connect your phone to your PC, and press start.
Use the ODIN EL29 link in my signature.
If you want CWM, just use Auto Root Option C to install EL29+CWM-Rogue (you don't need to do this unless you want to)
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ExitusLSU said:
I recently rooted my phone following the instructions posted on this forum. Everything went great and I have been running my phone rooted for a number of weeks now (EK02).
Well, I redownloaded the e4gtauto-sfx.exe package, ran the OTA Compliance check for EK02-EL29 and everything was fine. I proceeded to go with options C and then L (Install BootImg EL29+CWM-Rogue) and that went without a hitch, rebooted and everything appears to be running fine. I checked my phone settings and noticed the following:
Can someone explain why the baseband version and build number still say EK02? I was under the impression that information above would all say EL29. Should I run the OTA update?
Thanks.
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The OTA Compliance Check is there to tell you *if* the OTA update will be successful on your phone. It checks all the files the OTA patches to make sure they haven't been deleted or modified.
You would still need to run the EL29 OTA update to actually get a full EL29. However, I would suggest you install the pre-rooted EL29 ODIN One-Click in my signature, as that will keep your root.
Option C in Auto Root only installs CWM (which is packed into the EL29 kernel), thus only your kernel changed version #s. Ideally you would run the aforementioned pre-rooted EL29 ODIN One-Click to have a rooted stock EL29, then decide you want CWM, and run Auto Root Option C to install EL29+CWM-Rogue.
Alternatively, you might be on a previous version of the ROM but want to try the EL29 kernel and would install EL29 or EL29+CWM-Rogue to see how it performs with your previous ROM.
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Appreciate the help. That cleared a lot of things up for me.
Once I update those components to the appropriate EL29 components, do you know if the Sprint OTA update notification will go away or do I need to just go ahead and follow the stickied thread about disabling update notifications?
Thanks.
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I haven't read the sticky about disabling the update notifications but I'm running all EL29 (custom ROM, modem and, EL29 based kernel) and do not get the update notifications.
There is an application called Sprint Installer that handles OTA updates and notifications which may be stripped out of the ROM I'm using. You can uninstall or freeze the Sprint Installer with Titanium Backup.
so does EL29 work better than the Ek02?
Depends. For some people yes, for some people no.
I'm actually having trouble....
I got the message saying that a new update can be installed. I click it but when it tries to install it it gives me the android guy with the triangle and "!" mark in it. It won't update :/. I use the UnNamed Rom v2.0.1. I then tried to wipe the phone back to factory reset. I wiped to factory reset, wiped cache, and wiped delvik cache. Maybe then I could download the new EL29 OTA. I tried to restart the phone and I just get the Samasung Galaxy S2 logo and it hangs.
When I install the UnNamed Rom zip, it works again.
Please help.... I am kinda new to this. :/
I just want to get ride of the notification. I'm a freak about not having anything up there .
So is there something we need to download to get this update? Kinda new to root so don't really know what to do here.
sfhub said:
You can have exactly what you had before. If you want just root, you can have that. If you want root+CWM you can have that. If you want just CWM, you can have that.
What they plugged in EL29 is the exploit used by the Auto Root package (Option A) to achieve root. Instead of having you run Option A, I just did it for you and pre-rooted a EL29 ROM and packaged it as an ODIN One-Click.
Basically you just double-click on the ODIN One-Click, reboot your phone into d/l mode, connect your phone to your PC, and press start.
Use the ODIN EL29 link in my signature.
If you want CWM, just use Auto Root Option C to install EL29+CWM-Rogue (you don't need to do this unless you want to)
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Thanks for the help. If I now want to use the AutoRoot Option C above, what will the addition of CWM-Rogue give me?
O lord! My Galaxy 2 is rooted, and I woke up this morning to that OTA update. It's stuck on the little green android and exclamation screen. Any ideas where to go from here? Thanks for any suggestions....I don't want to brick my phone.
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O lord! My Galaxy 2 is rooted, and I woke up this morning to that OTA update. It's stuck on the little green android and exclamation screen. Any ideas where to go from here? Thanks for any suggestions....I don't want to brick my phone.
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Just hit the home button and you should see recovery, home or power, I forget which I hit but once I did the exclamation went away and I just rebooted normally.
I searched and didn't get exact answer to easy my mind.
If I want to upgrade to EL29 I am rooted on stock EK02, I need to unroot and then re-root correct?
I have read some are seeing better wifi strength with EL29.
So my questions are:
(1) Is it worth it to go to EL29?
(2) Is it a simple process to unroot, do the update, then root again with the EL29 root one click? Is is the same steps as EK02
You don't need to unroot, if that is all you did. If, using your root powers, you installed CWM, uninstalled bloat, otherwise made changes to your ROM, then those would need to be undone *if* you wanted to apply an OTA patch-style update to get EL29.
EL29 plugged the exploit that was being used by Auto Root to root your phone, so EL29 cannot be directly rooted right now. However there are alternatives:
1) you could use the pre-rooted EL29 ODIN One-Click in my signature. After it is installed, use Option C in Auto Root to install CWM if you want it
2) you could use the rooted EL29 OTA udpate, also in my signature. Instructions are in the thread
3) you could flash the rooted EL29 update.zip that Calkulin put out, then flash the modem by hand. I don't have the link handy. Search the dev section.
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You don't need to unroot, if that is all you did. If, using your root powers, you installed CWM, uninstalled bloat, otherwise made changes to your ROM, then those would need to be undone *if* you wanted to apply an OTA patch-style update to get EL29.
EL29 plugged the exploit that was being used by Auto Root to root your phone, so EL29 cannot be directly rooted right now. However there are alternatives:
1) you could use the pre-rooted EL29 ODIN One-Click in my signature. After it is installed, use Option C in Auto Root to install CWM if you want it
2) you could use the rooted EL29 OTA udpate, also in my signature. Instructions are in the thread
3) you could flash the rooted EL29 update.zip that Calkulin put out, then flash the modem by hand. I don't have the link handy. Search the dev section.
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I was about to respond.. but man sfhub, you are always on top of these type of posts! I've learned a lot from reading your posts. You're always very clear on instructions and don't assume everyone knows everything.
Am I clear that if I am stock rooted and accept the OTA, in order to root again I wud need a modified ROM... I wud not be able to root for just wifi tether??
sfhub said:
You don't need to unroot, if that is all you did. If, using your root powers, you installed CWM, uninstalled bloat, otherwise made changes to your ROM, then those would need to be undone *if* you wanted to apply an OTA patch-style update to get EL29.
EL29 plugged the exploit that was being used by Auto Root to root your phone, so EL29 cannot be directly rooted right now. However there are alternatives:
1) you could use the pre-rooted EL29 ODIN One-Click in my signature. After it is installed, use Option C in Auto Root to install CWM if you want it
2) you could use the rooted EL29 OTA udpate, also in my signature. Instructions are in the thread
3) you could flash the rooted EL29 update.zip that Calkulin put out, then flash the modem by hand. I don't have the link handy. Search the dev section.
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dw0d said:
Am I clear that if I am stock rooted and accept the OTA, in order to root again I wud need a modified ROM... I wud not be able to root for just wifi tether??
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There's no sense in accepting OTA updates anymore if you are rooted. We get it here on xda faster than sprint pushes them out. It will just break root anyway (assuming you haven't modified any system files, delete bloatware, ect). If you modified some stuff, the update would fail. I wouldn't bother with it. The easiest way would be to ODIN the pre-rooted EL29 stock in sfhub's signature. It'll update the modem, rom and stuff to EL29. Use the 'no-data' version if you want to keep all your data intact. That's what I did, coming from a stock EK02, only rooted.
Thx I will give a shot... XDA rocks
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dw0d said:
Am I clear that if I am stock rooted and accept the OTA, in order to root again I wud need a modified ROM... I wud not be able to root for just wifi tether??
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If you use the pre-rooted EL29 ODIN One-Click in my signature "modified ROM" is really just the addition of 3 files to the ROM to root it. Everything else is stock. It is exactly the same as if you ran Option A on your own ROM. It is just done for you. In fact, you could actually use Option B in Auto Root to unroot your phone and it would be 100% stock.
Same goes for the rooted EL29 OTA in my signature.
sfhub....Thanks for the tips. You showed me how to root a couple weeks ago and it has been great. I'm still cautious and didn't do many tweaks. I did freeze a few apps including voice command so I didn't have to use that every time I wanted to bluetooth dial.
So if I haven't made any major changes to the stock rooted EK02 I can just use the option #2 you said, right? And just pull it from your sig?
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Thx I will give a shot... XDA rocks
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And this is why I love XDA.
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jkhawk said:
I did freeze a few apps including voice command so I didn't have to use that every time I wanted to bluetooth dial.
So if I haven't made any major changes to the stock rooted EK02 I can just use the option #2 you said, right? And just pull it from your sig?
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Yes, freezing is fine. Only uninstalling or modifying would cause the OTA to fail.
In the instructions for the EL29 OTA there will be an optional step to run the EK02->EL29 OTA Compliance Check. Just run that and it will tell you if anything is missing or changed. Takes around a minute. SHA1FAIL for kernel/zImage is expected. Any other MISSING or SHA1FAIL would need to be addressed.
Hi. I have rooted EL29 right now and ICS OTA download notification is up on my phone.
I'm guessing I can't just OTA as is.
What is the best way to update? Unroot it to stock EL29 then get OTA then root it afterwards?
I haven't looked at this site since EL29 release so I'm kind of behind about new stuff and forgetting lots of what to do and NOT to do....
I just want well functioned device. I have no intention to try out new ROM or anything.
The reason I rooted was to use tether. That is the only reason.
So what is the best way to go for me?
If you rooted and did nothing but tether you can take the OTA, if you removed system files etc it will fail.
You lose root taking the OTA, No root exploit available. Rooted FF18 is achieved the same way you can get to it from el29 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229
No Data is the same effect as the OTA. There are problems with not wiping the phone. Swype data for example needs to be deleted for swype to work. This is one of many things that OTA users needed to do to make their life work normal.
Well I'm no expert but I flashed my phone back and forth between ICS and GB more times in the past week then I want to think about. I went from EL29 rooted stock to the ICS OTA without problems. If you want to flash to a custom ICS I would suggest using Odin to go back to EL29 rooted and then flash from there. For what I read the risk of bricking occurs when performing a factory reset on ICS OTA.
So I'm on CM9 now and here is what I did.
1) one click Odin to EL29 rooted stock.
2) D/L most recent CM9 build and gapps
3) Flash through CWM
4) Enjoy!
If I root my phone and Tmo sends an OTA update, will my phone still be rooted?
I don't believe you have to reset the flash count for this. But you do need to flash unrooted stock ROM first. Then get the OTA update. After that root again.
Thank you for the response.
I had another phone I rooted and when Tmo tried to push the update, Recovery mode caught it. I could never get the phone out of recovery mode after that. I got rid of the phone.
I don't want that to happen again obviously and why I asked the question. Seems to me, returning to stock, the rerooting might be more trouble than it's worth unless I had some compelling reason to do so.
JosephL said:
Thank you for the response.
I had another phone I rooted and when Tmo tried to push the update, Recovery mode caught it. I could never get the phone out of recovery mode after that. I got rid of the phone.
I don't want that to happen again obviously and why I asked the question. Seems to me, returning to stock, the rerooting might be more trouble than it's worth unless I had some compelling reason to do so.
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Here is the easiest method of managing root with this device: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957720
I like managing the background auto start processes to make my devices run much more smoothly. Which is why I like to root. Back up is another reason.
At this point I believe staying stock while rooted right now would help in the process of unrooting for updates.
There is going to be at least two or more updates. First update to get our multi-window, Swift Key Flow keyboard and other stuff that should of been in our Note 2 devices. Another update that will be enabling our LTE radio (when T-Mobile rolls out LTE). Jelly Bean 4.2 Android OS update should be updated somewhere in between these other updates (possibly at the same time as the enabling LTE update). So you are correct in thinking first before rooting.
JaguarXT said:
So you are correct in thinking first before rooting.
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Uh huh. I see a stock ROM in my future.
Thanks.
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At this point I believe staying stock while rooted. right now would help in the process of unrooting for updates.
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So you are saying, root but leave stock. Will the updates require me to unroot to receive them if I leave it stock?
Correct
Root and leave stock just my idea. Makes things easier when unrooting. But that is just my idea.
Always make a backup stock rom to unroot with. Or you can use the stock rom from this thread here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...FIRMWARE] SGH-T889 Factory Image (Unmodified) This is gold here.
After each OTA update you should make a backup of your stock rom as your latest stock rom. We should have a latest version of stock rom posted in our forum. But always best to use your latest backup image for stock rom. Again: This is gold here.
Read the thread that I gave you above.
But yes, unrooting before you can take OTA update. Take OTA update. Then root again.
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But yes, unrooting before you can take OTA update. Take OTA update. Then root again.
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According to this guy all I need to do is flash the stock recovery, then I can take the update, then just flash Clockwork recovery once the update is taken and by what I think he's saying I don't have to unroot.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VVyQRdsnaA&feature=channel&list=UL
Does this sound right?
Flashing stock rom will unroot your Galaxy Note 2. Basically put your Galaxy Note 2 back in to the same unmodified state that you bought it. Then OTA update. Then root.
Yes, I would take the OTA updates for now. They are important.
Also remember to backup your stock rom after OTA update. This will be the new stock rom for you to flash when you need to.
Sorry that I didn't explain what the process of unrooting was with GN2. Didn't have time, while with family. That is why I gave you the links.
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Flashing stock rom will unroot your Galaxy Note 2. Basically put your Galaxy Note 2 back in to the same unmodified state that you bought it. Then OTA update. Then root.
Yes, I would take the OTA updates for now. They are important.
Also remember to backup your stock rom after OTA update. This will be the new stock rom for you to flash when you need to.
Sorry that I didn't explain what the process of unrooting was with GN2. Didn't have time, while with family. That is why I gave you the links.
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would voodoo rootkeeper work for unrooting a stock rom, taking the ota update, then using voodoo again to regain root?
the only thing ive done to my phone is root, but i still want the ota updates for multi-window, etc later on.
JosephL said:
Thank you for the response.
I had another phone I rooted and when Tmo tried to push the update, Recovery mode caught it. I could never get the phone out of recovery mode after that. I got rid of the phone.
I don't want that to happen again obviously and why I asked the question. Seems to me, returning to stock, the rerooting might be more trouble than it's worth unless I had some compelling reason to do so.
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I dont have this phone yet but I know in most android you can disable updates in the settings so you dont run into those kinda problems
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JaguarXT said:
Flashing stock rom will unroot your Galaxy Note 2. Basically put your Galaxy Note 2 back in to the same unmodified state that you bought it. Then OTA update. Then root.
Yes, I would take the OTA updates for now. They are important.
Also remember to backup your stock rom after OTA update. This will be the new stock rom for you to flash when you need to.
Sorry that I didn't explain what the process of unrooting was with GN2. Didn't have time, while with family. That is why I gave you the links.
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when you install custom roms doesnt that make ota s moot? or does the device still retain updated functionality when using custom rooted rom ?
It all depends on what is going with the OTA. Some OTA updates might enable hardware that was otherwise dormant. LTE sure would be nice...
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heiNey said:
would voodoo rootkeeper work for unrooting a stock rom, taking the ota update, then using voodoo again to regain root?
the only thing ive done to my phone is root, but i still want the ota updates for multi-window, etc later on.
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No, Voodoo rootkeeper would not work here. Not needed either.
When you root Galaxy Note 2 it sets a "Modified" status to your Galaxy Note 2. As long as your Galaxy Note 2 status is set to "Modified" then you can't get OTA updates. This is why you have to flash Stock ROM back into your GN2. I am hoping and believing that you don't have to reset the flash count for this. At least that was not the case with Sprint OTA update version. The OTA updater just checks if you are unmodified or modified. If you are modified then the updater will tell you that you can't update because you are "Modified". Again this is the reason for flashing the Stock unrooted ROM. Once you flash Stock ROM then you will have "Unmodified" status. That is when you will be able to get OTA updates.
Please get the Stock recovering ROM and be ready to flash it when OTA update is ready.
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Some_dude36 said:
I dont have this phone yet but I know in most android you can disable updates in the settings so you dont run into those kinda problems
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when you install custom roms doesnt that make ota s moot? or does the device still retain updated functionality when using custom rooted rom ?
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Yes, root disables the updates through the status of "Modified". In fact when you try to update it says that you can't update because your GN2 is "Modified". But there are reasons that people want OTA updates: If you want your Multi-window feature, Swift Key Flow keyboard w/ S pen write to text, etc then you want the OTA update. If you want the LTE enable when T-Mobile rolls out LTE, then you want OTA update at that time And I can go on....
That is why people are asking these very good questions.
And in either case, within 24 hrs of any updates being released we'll have that rom in a .zip here on xda pre-rooted and ready to flash. I don't mess with counters, rooting/unrooting, etc... It'll be here!
farfromovin said:
And in either case, within 24 hrs of any updates being released we'll have that rom in a .zip here on xda pre-rooted and ready to flash. I don't mess with counters, rooting/unrooting, etc... It'll be here!
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Firstly messing with counters is mostly likely not needed. So that should not be a worry. Just to be noted.
Secondly, I hope that you are correct on that. But I been there thinking that community would do so but didn't. And least not for a while. And when they did found ways around to root again, it was not the way we wanted it. So I learned to not to put all my eggs in one basket.
Flashing Stock recovery ROM, taking the OTA updates, then root again is one of the baskets that all should have. If you don't need then no harm done. But if need and don't have it then harm done. A solution to the problem until another solution comes by.
heiNey said:
would voodoo rootkeeper work for unrooting a stock rom, taking the ota update, then using voodoo again to regain root?
the only thing ive done to my phone is root, but i still want the ota updates for multi-window, etc later on.
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I was wondering this as well. In the past I have had success with getting updates and using apps that required root by simply using the Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper app, but I don't know if it will work on this particular phone or not.
I suppose it's worth a shot to at least try when an update rolls around because if it works it's a lot easier than flashing back to stock and re-rooting again.
*Edit: Ah never mind, saw JaguarXT's reply saying it won't work. In that case I think I will hold off rooting the Note II for the time being.
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No, Voodoo rootkeeper would not work here. Not needed either.
When you root Galaxy Note 2 it sets a "Modified" status to your Galaxy Note 2. As long as your Galaxy Note 2 status is set to "Modified" then you can't get OTA updates. This is why you have to flash Stock ROM back into your GN2. I am hoping and believing that you don't have to reset the flash count for this. At least that was not the case with Sprint OTA update version. The OTA updater just checks if you are unmodified or modified. If you are modified then the updater will tell you that you can't update because you are "Modified". Again this is the reason for flashing the Stock unrooted ROM. Once you flash Stock ROM then you will have "Unmodified" status. That is when you will be able to get OTA updates.
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I am currently rooted and do not show the "Modified" status. I am also able to check for OTA updates. I believe it is bad information like this which is allowing people to feel it's OK to run amok with their phones. I feel this promotes the "need" for ROMs when most users could simply sit down with a launcher and customize it exactly the way they want it without a custom ROM. Now if I was getting some amazing battery life, or additional functionality that I can't live without, I might look at a ROM or two, but this isn't a Nexus, and stock\rooted\personalized works for me.
For those wanting to ROOT only, and that would be my recommendation, follow these instructions and STOP where he says STOP HERE.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1975560
Here is a couple of screen shots of what I was talking about. After stock recovery ROM no more "Modified" and can accept updates. Only after rooting get "Modified". Right I am rooted for backup and for AutoStarts app. But I did tried methods and know what works.
This is the method I know and tried of going back to stock and ready for OTA.
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mdt73 said:
Now if I was getting some amazing battery life, or additional functionality that I can't live without, I might look at a ROM or two, but this isn't a Nexus, and stock\rooted\personalized works for me.
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That's exactly where I am in all this. I plan NO custom roms because I'm sick of my phone not working.
I just want to do a few things that require root on the stock rom and for the things I want, I don't need a custom recovery.