I searched and didn't get exact answer to easy my mind.
If I want to upgrade to EL29 I am rooted on stock EK02, I need to unroot and then re-root correct?
I have read some are seeing better wifi strength with EL29.
So my questions are:
(1) Is it worth it to go to EL29?
(2) Is it a simple process to unroot, do the update, then root again with the EL29 root one click? Is is the same steps as EK02
You don't need to unroot, if that is all you did. If, using your root powers, you installed CWM, uninstalled bloat, otherwise made changes to your ROM, then those would need to be undone *if* you wanted to apply an OTA patch-style update to get EL29.
EL29 plugged the exploit that was being used by Auto Root to root your phone, so EL29 cannot be directly rooted right now. However there are alternatives:
1) you could use the pre-rooted EL29 ODIN One-Click in my signature. After it is installed, use Option C in Auto Root to install CWM if you want it
2) you could use the rooted EL29 OTA udpate, also in my signature. Instructions are in the thread
3) you could flash the rooted EL29 update.zip that Calkulin put out, then flash the modem by hand. I don't have the link handy. Search the dev section.
sfhub said:
You don't need to unroot, if that is all you did. If, using your root powers, you installed CWM, uninstalled bloat, otherwise made changes to your ROM, then those would need to be undone *if* you wanted to apply an OTA patch-style update to get EL29.
EL29 plugged the exploit that was being used by Auto Root to root your phone, so EL29 cannot be directly rooted right now. However there are alternatives:
1) you could use the pre-rooted EL29 ODIN One-Click in my signature. After it is installed, use Option C in Auto Root to install CWM if you want it
2) you could use the rooted EL29 OTA udpate, also in my signature. Instructions are in the thread
3) you could flash the rooted EL29 update.zip that Calkulin put out, then flash the modem by hand. I don't have the link handy. Search the dev section.
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I was about to respond.. but man sfhub, you are always on top of these type of posts! I've learned a lot from reading your posts. You're always very clear on instructions and don't assume everyone knows everything.
Am I clear that if I am stock rooted and accept the OTA, in order to root again I wud need a modified ROM... I wud not be able to root for just wifi tether??
sfhub said:
You don't need to unroot, if that is all you did. If, using your root powers, you installed CWM, uninstalled bloat, otherwise made changes to your ROM, then those would need to be undone *if* you wanted to apply an OTA patch-style update to get EL29.
EL29 plugged the exploit that was being used by Auto Root to root your phone, so EL29 cannot be directly rooted right now. However there are alternatives:
1) you could use the pre-rooted EL29 ODIN One-Click in my signature. After it is installed, use Option C in Auto Root to install CWM if you want it
2) you could use the rooted EL29 OTA udpate, also in my signature. Instructions are in the thread
3) you could flash the rooted EL29 update.zip that Calkulin put out, then flash the modem by hand. I don't have the link handy. Search the dev section.
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dw0d said:
Am I clear that if I am stock rooted and accept the OTA, in order to root again I wud need a modified ROM... I wud not be able to root for just wifi tether??
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There's no sense in accepting OTA updates anymore if you are rooted. We get it here on xda faster than sprint pushes them out. It will just break root anyway (assuming you haven't modified any system files, delete bloatware, ect). If you modified some stuff, the update would fail. I wouldn't bother with it. The easiest way would be to ODIN the pre-rooted EL29 stock in sfhub's signature. It'll update the modem, rom and stuff to EL29. Use the 'no-data' version if you want to keep all your data intact. That's what I did, coming from a stock EK02, only rooted.
Thx I will give a shot... XDA rocks
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dw0d said:
Am I clear that if I am stock rooted and accept the OTA, in order to root again I wud need a modified ROM... I wud not be able to root for just wifi tether??
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If you use the pre-rooted EL29 ODIN One-Click in my signature "modified ROM" is really just the addition of 3 files to the ROM to root it. Everything else is stock. It is exactly the same as if you ran Option A on your own ROM. It is just done for you. In fact, you could actually use Option B in Auto Root to unroot your phone and it would be 100% stock.
Same goes for the rooted EL29 OTA in my signature.
sfhub....Thanks for the tips. You showed me how to root a couple weeks ago and it has been great. I'm still cautious and didn't do many tweaks. I did freeze a few apps including voice command so I didn't have to use that every time I wanted to bluetooth dial.
So if I haven't made any major changes to the stock rooted EK02 I can just use the option #2 you said, right? And just pull it from your sig?
dw0d said:
Thx I will give a shot... XDA rocks
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And this is why I love XDA.
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jkhawk said:
I did freeze a few apps including voice command so I didn't have to use that every time I wanted to bluetooth dial.
So if I haven't made any major changes to the stock rooted EK02 I can just use the option #2 you said, right? And just pull it from your sig?
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Yes, freezing is fine. Only uninstalling or modifying would cause the OTA to fail.
In the instructions for the EL29 OTA there will be an optional step to run the EK02->EL29 OTA Compliance Check. Just run that and it will tell you if anything is missing or changed. Takes around a minute. SHA1FAIL for kernel/zImage is expected. Any other MISSING or SHA1FAIL would need to be addressed.
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I had done the auto root w/o odin on EK02. I just received the OTA update for EL29 and installed it. Reading the auto root thread it makes it says if I want root +cwm I need to use odin. If I just want the root can I use the auto root or do I still need to use odin?
hammester said:
I had done the auto root w/o odin on EK02. I just received the OTA update for EL29 and installed it. Reading the auto root thread it makes it says if I want root +cwm I need to use odin. If I just want the root can I use the auto root or do I still need to use odin?
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Question, if you were rooted how did you receive the OTA update? I thought rooted devices would cause the OTA to fail?
The exploit used in auto root was plugged in EL13 + newer so it no longer works. Sfhub made a pre-rooted one click odin package that you can use. It has a no data version that doesn't overwrite any of your stuff and allows you to keep all your settings. It's just as easy as using auto root. If you want CWM after flashing this then you can go ahead and use auto root to flash whatever kernel +CWM you want.
Here- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
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Question, if you were rooted how did you receive the OTA update? I thought rooted devices would cause the OTA to fail?
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Since I used the auto root it did not effect the OTA update. I just made sure any changes that I did make that I needed root access for I changed back to it's original state.
I recently rooted my phone following the instructions posted on this forum. Everything went great and I have been running my phone rooted for a number of weeks now (EK02).
Well, I redownloaded the e4gtauto-sfx.exe package, ran the OTA Compliance check for EK02-EL29 and everything was fine. I proceeded to go with options C and then L (Install BootImg EL29+CWM-Rogue) and that went without a hitch, rebooted and everything appears to be running fine. I checked my phone settings and noticed the following:
Baseband Version: S: D710.10 S.EK02
Kernel Version: 2.6.35.7-SPH-D710.EL29-CL852097
Build Number: GINGERBREAD.EK02
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Can someone explain why the baseband version and build number still say EK02? I was under the impression that information above would all say EL29. Should I run the OTA update?
Thanks.
ExitusLSU said:
I recently rooted my phone following the instructions posted on this forum. Everything went great and I have been running my phone rooted for a number of weeks now (EK02).
Well, I redownloaded the e4gtauto-sfx.exe package, ran the OTA Compliance check for EK02-EL29 and everything was fine. I proceeded to go with options C and then L (Install BootImg EL29+CWM-Rogue) and that went without a hitch, rebooted and everything appears to be running fine. I checked my phone settings and noticed the following:
Can someone explain why the baseband version and build number still say EK02? I was under the impression that information above would all say EL29. Should I run the OTA update?
Thanks.
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Can't explain to you why it still says that but I'm running EL29 ROMs and they still say baseband EK02 so don't run it again. It's updated and as long as its running fine, leave it alone.
Edit: After looking at QBking77's video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfZaALRWANQ&feature=player_embedded#!, at the 49 sec mark it shows build number EL29 and Baseband EK02. Hmmm, not sure what that means. So I guess at least the baseband should have changed.
lopezpm said:
Can't explain to you why it still says that but I'm running EL29 ROMs and they still say baseband EK02 so don't run it again. It's updated and as long as its running fine, leave it alone.
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Thanks for the quick reply.
I'm not running any custom ROMs at the moment. I just wanted the phone rooted. The interface looks the same as it did when I got the phone. When I update via the auto process I described above, is it only updating the kernel? Does the broadband version and build number refer to the user interface?
Total Noob here, but a friend rooted my phone (to give me WIFI tether, did not flash a ROM) yesterday and this morning Sprint pushed the EL29 update which I installed. Did I screw up by installing the OTA update on a root-only phone?
ExitusLSU said:
I recently rooted my phone following the instructions posted on this forum. Everything went great and I have been running my phone rooted for a number of weeks now (EK02).
Well, I redownloaded the e4gtauto-sfx.exe package, ran the OTA Compliance check for EK02-EL29 and everything was fine. I proceeded to go with options C and then L (Install BootImg EL29+CWM-Rogue) and that went without a hitch, rebooted and everything appears to be running fine. I checked my phone settings and noticed the following:
Can someone explain why the baseband version and build number still say EK02? I was under the impression that information above would all say EL29. Should I run the OTA update?
Thanks.
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I could be wrong, and if I am, I'm sure to be corrected. Your Baseband, kernel, and ROM (what the build number refers to) are all seperate parts. The Baseband I believe refers to your modem. It looks like the only thing you updated was the kernel, as the recovery (CWM-Rogue) is actually part of the kernel, not your ROM. Make sure the ROM you're running is EL29 based. To flash the updated EL29 modem, check out the Epic 4G Touch development forum, there is a thread stickied with all of the available modems that are flashable from CWM.
Did that help?
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ShoePhone said:
Total Noob here, but a friend rooted my phone (to give me WIFI tether, did not flash a ROM) yesterday and this morning Sprint pushed the EL29 update which I installed. Did I screw up by installing the OTA update on a root-only phone?
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You just lost root. Installing any update pushed by the carrier will remove your root access.
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I could be wrong, and if I am, I'm sure to be corrected. Your Baseband, kernel, and ROM (what the build number refers to) are all seperate parts. The Baseband I believe refers to your modem. It looks like the only thing you updated was the kernel, as the recovery (CWM-Rogue) is actually part of the kernel, not your ROM. Make sure the ROM you're running is EL29 based. To flash the updated EL29 modem, check out the Epic 4G Touch development forum, there is a thread stickied with all of the available modems that are flashable from CWM.
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Appreciate the help. That cleared a lot of things up for me.
Once I update those components to the appropriate EL29 components, do you know if the Sprint OTA update notification will go away or do I need to just go ahead and follow the stickied thread about disabling update notifications?
Thanks.
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You just lost root. Installing any update pushed by the carrier will remove your root access.
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How do I go about getting root back, without the help of my friend? Thanks for your help. Pretty sure he used the auto root method with et4g files, etc from what I watched him do.
Never accept OTA's once you're rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19269878
Read the whole thing 2 or 3 times. Watch the videos also by qbking77
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lopezpm said:
Never accept OTA's once you're rooted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19269878
Read the whole thing 2 or 3 times. Watch the videos also by qbking77
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So after reading the Autoroot thread you linked, am I interpreting it correctly that since I updated with the OTA EL29, I can't have stock root (as I had previously) but root + CWM Rom? If so, what does this change on my end as far as the Touchwiz interface, etc? Does tethering/Hotspot come automatically with CWM? Thanks for your patience as I am guessing these are pretty rudimentary questions.
ShoePhone said:
So after reading the Autoroot thread you linked, am I interpreting it correctly that since I updated with the OTA EL29, I can't have stock root (as I had previously) but root + CWM Rom? If so, what does this change on my end as far as the Touchwiz interface, etc? Does tethering/Hotspot come automatically with CWM? Thanks for your patience as I am guessing these are pretty rudimentary questions.
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I would just flash a stock rooted EL29 ROM with ODIN
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ShoePhone said:
So after reading the Autoroot thread you linked, am I interpreting it correctly that since I updated with the OTA EL29, I can't have stock root (as I had previously) but root + CWM Rom? If so, what does this change on my end as far as the Touchwiz interface, etc? Does tethering/Hotspot come automatically with CWM? Thanks for your patience as I am guessing these are pretty rudimentary questions.
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CWM or ClockworkMod Recovery is simply a custom recovery that is used for various purposes. With CWM you can do a nandroid backup,flash ROMs, Kernels, Themes, etc. A custom recovery is something you definitely want. The touchwiz interface will not be affected at all by achieving root or installing a custom recovery. Wifi-Tether is not something that is automatically installed with root, however once rooted, you should be able to install Wifi-Tether without any issues.
ShoePhone said:
So after reading the Autoroot thread you linked, am I interpreting it correctly that since I updated with the OTA EL29, I can't have stock root (as I had previously) but root + CWM Rom? If so, what does this change on my end as far as the Touchwiz interface, etc? Does tethering/Hotspot come automatically with CWM? Thanks for your patience as I am guessing these are pretty rudimentary questions.
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You can have exactly what you had before. If you want just root, you can have that. If you want root+CWM you can have that. If you want just CWM, you can have that.
What they plugged in EL29 is the exploit used by the Auto Root package (Option A) to achieve root. Instead of having you run Option A, I just did it for you and pre-rooted a EL29 ROM and packaged it as an ODIN One-Click.
Basically you just double-click on the ODIN One-Click, reboot your phone into d/l mode, connect your phone to your PC, and press start.
Use the ODIN EL29 link in my signature.
If you want CWM, just use Auto Root Option C to install EL29+CWM-Rogue (you don't need to do this unless you want to)
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ExitusLSU said:
I recently rooted my phone following the instructions posted on this forum. Everything went great and I have been running my phone rooted for a number of weeks now (EK02).
Well, I redownloaded the e4gtauto-sfx.exe package, ran the OTA Compliance check for EK02-EL29 and everything was fine. I proceeded to go with options C and then L (Install BootImg EL29+CWM-Rogue) and that went without a hitch, rebooted and everything appears to be running fine. I checked my phone settings and noticed the following:
Can someone explain why the baseband version and build number still say EK02? I was under the impression that information above would all say EL29. Should I run the OTA update?
Thanks.
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The OTA Compliance Check is there to tell you *if* the OTA update will be successful on your phone. It checks all the files the OTA patches to make sure they haven't been deleted or modified.
You would still need to run the EL29 OTA update to actually get a full EL29. However, I would suggest you install the pre-rooted EL29 ODIN One-Click in my signature, as that will keep your root.
Option C in Auto Root only installs CWM (which is packed into the EL29 kernel), thus only your kernel changed version #s. Ideally you would run the aforementioned pre-rooted EL29 ODIN One-Click to have a rooted stock EL29, then decide you want CWM, and run Auto Root Option C to install EL29+CWM-Rogue.
Alternatively, you might be on a previous version of the ROM but want to try the EL29 kernel and would install EL29 or EL29+CWM-Rogue to see how it performs with your previous ROM.
ExitusLSU said:
Appreciate the help. That cleared a lot of things up for me.
Once I update those components to the appropriate EL29 components, do you know if the Sprint OTA update notification will go away or do I need to just go ahead and follow the stickied thread about disabling update notifications?
Thanks.
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I haven't read the sticky about disabling the update notifications but I'm running all EL29 (custom ROM, modem and, EL29 based kernel) and do not get the update notifications.
There is an application called Sprint Installer that handles OTA updates and notifications which may be stripped out of the ROM I'm using. You can uninstall or freeze the Sprint Installer with Titanium Backup.
so does EL29 work better than the Ek02?
Depends. For some people yes, for some people no.
I'm actually having trouble....
I got the message saying that a new update can be installed. I click it but when it tries to install it it gives me the android guy with the triangle and "!" mark in it. It won't update :/. I use the UnNamed Rom v2.0.1. I then tried to wipe the phone back to factory reset. I wiped to factory reset, wiped cache, and wiped delvik cache. Maybe then I could download the new EL29 OTA. I tried to restart the phone and I just get the Samasung Galaxy S2 logo and it hangs.
When I install the UnNamed Rom zip, it works again.
Please help.... I am kinda new to this. :/
I just want to get ride of the notification. I'm a freak about not having anything up there .
So is there something we need to download to get this update? Kinda new to root so don't really know what to do here.
sfhub said:
You can have exactly what you had before. If you want just root, you can have that. If you want root+CWM you can have that. If you want just CWM, you can have that.
What they plugged in EL29 is the exploit used by the Auto Root package (Option A) to achieve root. Instead of having you run Option A, I just did it for you and pre-rooted a EL29 ROM and packaged it as an ODIN One-Click.
Basically you just double-click on the ODIN One-Click, reboot your phone into d/l mode, connect your phone to your PC, and press start.
Use the ODIN EL29 link in my signature.
If you want CWM, just use Auto Root Option C to install EL29+CWM-Rogue (you don't need to do this unless you want to)
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Thanks for the help. If I now want to use the AutoRoot Option C above, what will the addition of CWM-Rogue give me?
O lord! My Galaxy 2 is rooted, and I woke up this morning to that OTA update. It's stuck on the little green android and exclamation screen. Any ideas where to go from here? Thanks for any suggestions....I don't want to brick my phone.
dougswub said:
O lord! My Galaxy 2 is rooted, and I woke up this morning to that OTA update. It's stuck on the little green android and exclamation screen. Any ideas where to go from here? Thanks for any suggestions....I don't want to brick my phone.
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Just hit the home button and you should see recovery, home or power, I forget which I hit but once I did the exclamation went away and I just rebooted normally.
Okay guys, my phone has EK02 and rooted with stock Rom. I don't mind losing the root, if I can get it back using that same method, will sfhub method work after I do the OTA update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
Will titanium backup affect the phone in any way?
You cant root EL29 or any EL with the Auto Root. Since the phones rooted you might be able to option C EL29+CWM (on the latest version) but im not 100% on that and it wont flash the modem for you.
But what I will point you to is something that does work also from sfhub - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
There are 2 versions in there a full and a no data. This will flash the modem for you which otherwise would not be done. But to get CWM you still need to use the E4GT Auto option C and EL29+CWM. But with these you will have a stock rooted EL29 and upon the last step custom recovery.
I am sure someone else, sfhub of course included can comment on just using e4gt auto to copy the EL29+CWM rom over.
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You cant root EL29 or any EL with the Auto Root. Since the phones rooted you might be able to option C EL29+CWM (on the latest version) but im not 100% on that and it wont flash the modem for you.
But what I will point you to is something that does work also from sfhub - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
There are 2 versions in there a full and a no data. This will flash the modem for you which otherwise would not be done. But to get CWM you still need to use the E4GT Auto option C and EL29+CWM. But with these you will have a stock rooted EL29 and upon the last step custom recovery.
I am sure someone else, sfhub of course included can comment on just using e4gt auto to copy the EL29+CWM rom over.
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So it would probably safer for a noob like me to go the long route, ie.. Perform OTA update>>>reRoot using option A>>>Then running option C after A is completed.
The only reason I say this because I've been reading and noticing that people are losing their WIFI or 3G antenna after installing CMW.
So i've been kinda skeptical about running CMW.
lexvdub1 said:
So it would probably safer for a noob like me to go the long route, ie.. Perform OTA update>>>reRoot using option A>>>Then running option C after A is completed.
The only reason I say this because I've been reading and noticing that people are losing their WIFI or 3G antenna after installing CMW.
So i've been kinda skeptical about running CMW.
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You shouldn't lose WIFI or 3G if you use the option 'c' in the auto-root package. Its a stock kernel with only CWM added, I believe.
You can't use the auto-root anymore after EK02. They plugged that exploit from EL13 and up. You have to use sfhubs pre-rooted odin one click packages. You only use the auto root to either unroot or add CWM. If you want EL29 + stock, use the pre-rooted odin package (no data version, if you want to retain your stuff). Its simple to do. CMW is optional after that if you want to flash custom mods or roms.
As i said beforeyou cant use auto root on el29 . The zerg exploit is patched. If you OTA update the only way to get root back is ODIN which is going to overwrite anything previously done anyways.
If the phone passes the ek02 to el29 check under the d option on the latest auto root you CAN ota update to EL29 and you LOSE root. At which point you will need to use ODIN or sfhubs One Click ODIN for EL29 to have root.
All you need todo to go straight to a stock rooted EL29 is run sfhubs one click odin for el29 and he has a no data option that wont delete your apps and info.
If you pass the check you can alternatively use sfhubs ota style update he has posted. But the odin is one and done. Very simple.
I am using cwm via proper methods personally nothing to report. 3g 4g and wifi all good on my end.
s9amme said:
You shouldn't lose WIFI or 3G if you use the option 'c' in the auto-root package. Its a stock kernel with only CWM added, I believe.
You can't use the auto-root anymore after EK02. They plugged that exploit from EL13 and up. You have to use sfhubs pre-rooted odin one click packages. You only use the auto root to either unroot or add CWM. If you want EL29 + stock, use the pre-rooted odin package (no data version, if you want to retain your stuff). Its simple to do. CMW is optional after that if you want to flash custom mods or roms.
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RainMotorsports said:
As i said beforeyou cant use auto root on el29 . The zerg exploit is patched. If you OTA update the only way to get root back is ODIN which is going to overwrite anything previously done anyways.
If the phone passes the ek02 to el29 check under the d option on the latest auto root you CAN ota update to EL29 and you LOSE root. At which point you will need to use ODIN or sfhubs One Click ODIN for EL29 to have root.
All you need todo to go straight to a stock rooted EL29 is run sfhubs one click odin for el29 and he has a no data option that wont delete your apps and info.
If you pass the check you can alternatively use sfhubs ota style update he has posted. But the odin is one and done. Very simple.
I am using cwm via proper methods personally nothing to report. 3g 4g and wifi all good on my end.
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I didn't understand at first, but after watching the video and both of you guys explanations, i'm in like flint.
I will do this later on and you guys posted, looks pretty straight forward.
lexvdub1 said:
I didn't understand at first, but after watching the video and both of you guys explanations, i'm in like flint.
I will do this later on and you guys posted, looks pretty straight forward.
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Yup, simple as it can get. I just did this about 2 Weeks ago. Took about 10 mins to do. Just follow sfhub's clear instructions on the thread. Also came from just stock ek02 + root and wanted to update to el29 with only root.
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s9amme said:
Yup, simple as it can get. I just did this about 2 Weeks ago. Took about 10 mins to do. Just follow sfhub's clear instructions on the thread. Also came from just stock ek02 + root and wanted to update to el29 with only root.
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Guys rooting and CWM worked with no problem, thanks for the help.
One question, I performed a NANDROID backup, where is this backup stored?
So here is my scenario: My work makes us use a security app on our phone in order to be able to sync Exchange data from our servers. If it detects your phone as rooted, you can't get data to sync.
I realize there are apps such as "Temp Root Remover" and such, but do they work on E4GT Roms? Otherwise, if I get my ROM setup how I like and then delete the SU libs from /system/xbin will that remove root?
Thanks...
flash a stock kernel of whatever ROM you're on.
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dante32278 said:
flash a stock kernel of whatever ROM you're on.
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So root is baked into the kernel, not the ROM?
The easiest way to unroot is using sfhub's auto root package tool at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
Option B.
steindog99 said:
So root is baked into the kernel, not the ROM?
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It can be both/either depending on what you installed.
Most of the latest stuff will have "superuser" in the ROM.
Some of the earlier stuff put it in the kernel.
If you install custom recovery, they will commonly have adb handing out shells logged in as root, which si different than having the Superuser app.
sfhub said:
It can be both/either depending on what you installed.
Most of the latest stuff will have "superuser" in the ROM.
Some of the earlier stuff put it in the kernel.
If you install custom recovery, they will commonly have adb handing out shells logged in as root, which si different than having the Superuser app.
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So what do you think is the best way to deal with my issue in the OP? Stock rooted EL29 and then just run Temp Root Remover all the time?
BTW...thanks for the info in the other thread as well...
steindog99 said:
So what do you think is the best way to deal with my issue in the OP? Stock rooted EL29 and then just run Temp Root Remover all the time?
BTW...thanks for the info in the other thread as well...
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If you are running stock rooted EL29 installed using the pre-rooted EL29 ODIN OneClick, then just run Option B in the Auto Root package and it will unroot you and return you to stock. Before doing that, while you still have root, install the stock kernel (if you want the stock kernel) using Option C.
If you installed EL29 some other way, you can prob ably just ODIN the kernel and ROM from the pre-rooted EL29 OneClick thread, 2nd post, reference section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
sfhub said:
If you are running stock rooted EL29 installed using the pre-rooted EL29 ODIN OneClick, then just run Option B in the Auto Root package and it will unroot you and return you to stock. Before doing that, while you still have root, install the stock kernel (if you want the stock kernel) using Option C.
If you installed EL29 some other way, you can prob ably just ODIN the kernel and ROM from the pre-rooted EL29 OneClick thread, 2nd post, reference section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
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So after running the pre-rooted EL29 Odin OneClick, then unrooting using Option B of your amazing Auto Root package, what is the best way to regain root without losing all my stuff? Would it be to just re-run the EL29 Odin OneClick that preserves data, or is there an even easier way to just add root access back into my setup?
steindog99 said:
So after running the pre-rooted EL29 Odin OneClick, then unrooting using Option B of your amazing Auto Root package, what is the best way to regain root without losing all my stuff? Would it be to just re-run the EL29 Odin OneClick that preserves data, or is there an even easier way to just add root access back into my setup?
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You could run the nodata version, it'll preserve your user data. I suspect you are making changes to you /system though. Does the root detector from work consider cwm to be root? If not, then install something like el29+cwm-rogue and then you can use option A to root and option B to unroot as many times as you want and it won't
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sfhub said:
You could run the nodata version, it'll preserve your user data. I suspect you are making changes to you /system though. Does the root detector from work consider cwm to be root? If not, then install something like el29+cwm-rogue and then you can use option A to root and option B to unroot as many times as you want and it won't
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It does not consider CWM to be root. I thought in the Auto Root that it would only add root to builds up to EL13...and EL29 is newer so it wouldn't add root to it. Did I misunderstand that???
steindog99 said:
It does not consider CWM to be root. I thought in the Auto Root that it would only add root to builds up to EL13...and EL29 is newer so it wouldn't add root to it. Did I misunderstand that???
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If you have stock everything, including kernel and rom, then the root exploit Option A only works up to and including ek02.
If you have a cwm installed (like rogue) which gives the # prompt in adb shell, then the exploit itself still fails, but option A is able to chug along and install persistent root for you.
I don't publicize this because so few people are in your situation and it would probably be confusing for the general user.
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If you have stock everything, including kernel and rom, then the root exploit Option A only works up to and including ek02.
If you have a cwm installed (like rogue) which gives the # prompt in adb shell, then the exploit itself still fails, but option A is able to chug along and install persistent root for you.
I don't publicize this because so few people are in your situation and it would probably be confusing for the general user.
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Thanks for all the info. I can see how most some people would get that messed up. I appreciate all your info on this topic, and of course for the Auto Root package...
I just got the OTA ICS update sent to my phone. As of now it is rooted but on stock rom. My question is I have team Rogue custom recovery. Is that the same as clockwork mod and do I need to restore it back to stock recovery before I accept the ota update? thanks!
You can use sfhub's auto root tool to check if your ROM is compliant. If it isn't, it will fail the update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
Why don't you just use sfhub's one click FF18 with root. You need to be on stock el29 to accept the update. If not it will fail.
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Stuck on triangle
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I just got the OTA ICS update sent to my phone. As of now it is rooted but on stock rom. My question is I have team Rogue custom recovery. Is that the same as clockwork mod and do I need to restore it back to stock recovery before I accept the ota update? thanks!
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Thanks for the help. I was able to revert back to stock recovery but now when trying to update either ota or manual it gets stuck on the triangle with the android a few seconds into the update. I've tried renaming the file to "update" as instructed in the video and not renaming. Same result. Any suggestions guys?
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Thanks for the help. I was able to revert back to stock recovery but now when trying to update either ota or manual it gets stuck on the triangle with the android a few seconds into the update. I've tried renaming the file to "update" as instructed in the video and not renaming. Same result. Any suggestions guys?
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I'm having the same issue.
Edit: I got it. I installed it in the folder not the root of the sd card.
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cphil99 said:
Thanks for the help. I was able to revert back to stock recovery but now when trying to update either ota or manual it gets stuck on the triangle with the android a few seconds into the update. I've tried renaming the file to "update" as instructed in the video and not renaming. Same result. Any suggestions guys?
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If you get the the triangle, press the "Menu" capacitative button and it will show the log.
Most likely you modified or removed some ROM file or your update.zip is corrupt.
Usually folks remove some bloat way back when and forgot they did it.
If you are still rooted, you could run Auto Root Option E, OTA Compliance Check EL29->FF18 and it will tell you everything that will cause the OTA update to fail.
As an aside, the previous posters are correct and it is probably easier if you just use the FF18 ODIN OneClick.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229
The Official FF18 OTA will not run under CWM or CWM-Rogue because when it goes to verify the integrity of the kernel, it will find it is different than what it was expecting.
I have a rooted FF18 OTA that will install from CWM if you want to go that route:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771799
I got it!
sfhub said:
If you get the the triangle, press the "Menu" capacitative button and it will show the log.
Most likely you modified or removed some ROM file or your update.zip is corrupt.
Usually folks remove some bloat way back when and forgot they did it.
If you are still rooted, you could run Auto Root Option E, OTA Compliance Check EL29->FF18 and it will tell you everything that will cause the OTA update to fail.
As an aside, the previous posters are correct and it is probably easier if you just use the FF18 ODIN OneClick.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229
The Official FF18 OTA will not run under CWM or CWM-Rogue because when it goes to verify the integrity of the kernel, it will find it is different than what it was expecting.
I have a rooted FF18 OTA that will install from CWM if you want to go that route:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771799
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That did it! I just downloaded and ran the new Odin file and it worked like a charm with no loss of data. Thank you so much for you help!