So here is my scenario: My work makes us use a security app on our phone in order to be able to sync Exchange data from our servers. If it detects your phone as rooted, you can't get data to sync.
I realize there are apps such as "Temp Root Remover" and such, but do they work on E4GT Roms? Otherwise, if I get my ROM setup how I like and then delete the SU libs from /system/xbin will that remove root?
Thanks...
flash a stock kernel of whatever ROM you're on.
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dante32278 said:
flash a stock kernel of whatever ROM you're on.
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So root is baked into the kernel, not the ROM?
The easiest way to unroot is using sfhub's auto root package tool at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
Option B.
steindog99 said:
So root is baked into the kernel, not the ROM?
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It can be both/either depending on what you installed.
Most of the latest stuff will have "superuser" in the ROM.
Some of the earlier stuff put it in the kernel.
If you install custom recovery, they will commonly have adb handing out shells logged in as root, which si different than having the Superuser app.
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It can be both/either depending on what you installed.
Most of the latest stuff will have "superuser" in the ROM.
Some of the earlier stuff put it in the kernel.
If you install custom recovery, they will commonly have adb handing out shells logged in as root, which si different than having the Superuser app.
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So what do you think is the best way to deal with my issue in the OP? Stock rooted EL29 and then just run Temp Root Remover all the time?
BTW...thanks for the info in the other thread as well...
steindog99 said:
So what do you think is the best way to deal with my issue in the OP? Stock rooted EL29 and then just run Temp Root Remover all the time?
BTW...thanks for the info in the other thread as well...
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If you are running stock rooted EL29 installed using the pre-rooted EL29 ODIN OneClick, then just run Option B in the Auto Root package and it will unroot you and return you to stock. Before doing that, while you still have root, install the stock kernel (if you want the stock kernel) using Option C.
If you installed EL29 some other way, you can prob ably just ODIN the kernel and ROM from the pre-rooted EL29 OneClick thread, 2nd post, reference section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
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If you are running stock rooted EL29 installed using the pre-rooted EL29 ODIN OneClick, then just run Option B in the Auto Root package and it will unroot you and return you to stock. Before doing that, while you still have root, install the stock kernel (if you want the stock kernel) using Option C.
If you installed EL29 some other way, you can prob ably just ODIN the kernel and ROM from the pre-rooted EL29 OneClick thread, 2nd post, reference section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
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So after running the pre-rooted EL29 Odin OneClick, then unrooting using Option B of your amazing Auto Root package, what is the best way to regain root without losing all my stuff? Would it be to just re-run the EL29 Odin OneClick that preserves data, or is there an even easier way to just add root access back into my setup?
steindog99 said:
So after running the pre-rooted EL29 Odin OneClick, then unrooting using Option B of your amazing Auto Root package, what is the best way to regain root without losing all my stuff? Would it be to just re-run the EL29 Odin OneClick that preserves data, or is there an even easier way to just add root access back into my setup?
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You could run the nodata version, it'll preserve your user data. I suspect you are making changes to you /system though. Does the root detector from work consider cwm to be root? If not, then install something like el29+cwm-rogue and then you can use option A to root and option B to unroot as many times as you want and it won't
Reset your rom
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You could run the nodata version, it'll preserve your user data. I suspect you are making changes to you /system though. Does the root detector from work consider cwm to be root? If not, then install something like el29+cwm-rogue and then you can use option A to root and option B to unroot as many times as you want and it won't
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It does not consider CWM to be root. I thought in the Auto Root that it would only add root to builds up to EL13...and EL29 is newer so it wouldn't add root to it. Did I misunderstand that???
steindog99 said:
It does not consider CWM to be root. I thought in the Auto Root that it would only add root to builds up to EL13...and EL29 is newer so it wouldn't add root to it. Did I misunderstand that???
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If you have stock everything, including kernel and rom, then the root exploit Option A only works up to and including ek02.
If you have a cwm installed (like rogue) which gives the # prompt in adb shell, then the exploit itself still fails, but option A is able to chug along and install persistent root for you.
I don't publicize this because so few people are in your situation and it would probably be confusing for the general user.
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If you have stock everything, including kernel and rom, then the root exploit Option A only works up to and including ek02.
If you have a cwm installed (like rogue) which gives the # prompt in adb shell, then the exploit itself still fails, but option A is able to chug along and install persistent root for you.
I don't publicize this because so few people are in your situation and it would probably be confusing for the general user.
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Thanks for all the info. I can see how most some people would get that messed up. I appreciate all your info on this topic, and of course for the Auto Root package...
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ok so I was reading and it said that if I use oneclick i wont just have stock rom after I have to flash a new rom of some kind. Is there not a one click or z4 type root like we had before. I only want to root to use the wifi teather and want to keep everything else stock I also dont wanna have to loose my apps or anything. any ideas
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1 click should leave the rest of the phone alone, just give you root.
CM7 ON MY EPIC!
The one.click will give you superuser access and flash a recovery to your phone. You stay on the stock rom/kernel unless you flash a custom rom/kernel.
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ok this is the part that was worrying me
IF YOU ARE ON AN ODEXED ROM (DEFAULT OTA) THEN YOU NEED TO REFLASH A ROM AFTER THE CONVERSION!!!!!!! ODEXED ROMS DO NOT GET RESTORED PROPERLY
that is right out of the one click directions found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=897612
and I do have the OTA update.
I had done the auto root w/o odin on EK02. I just received the OTA update for EL29 and installed it. Reading the auto root thread it makes it says if I want root +cwm I need to use odin. If I just want the root can I use the auto root or do I still need to use odin?
hammester said:
I had done the auto root w/o odin on EK02. I just received the OTA update for EL29 and installed it. Reading the auto root thread it makes it says if I want root +cwm I need to use odin. If I just want the root can I use the auto root or do I still need to use odin?
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Question, if you were rooted how did you receive the OTA update? I thought rooted devices would cause the OTA to fail?
The exploit used in auto root was plugged in EL13 + newer so it no longer works. Sfhub made a pre-rooted one click odin package that you can use. It has a no data version that doesn't overwrite any of your stuff and allows you to keep all your settings. It's just as easy as using auto root. If you want CWM after flashing this then you can go ahead and use auto root to flash whatever kernel +CWM you want.
Here- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
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Question, if you were rooted how did you receive the OTA update? I thought rooted devices would cause the OTA to fail?
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Since I used the auto root it did not effect the OTA update. I just made sure any changes that I did make that I needed root access for I changed back to it's original state.
I searched and didn't get exact answer to easy my mind.
If I want to upgrade to EL29 I am rooted on stock EK02, I need to unroot and then re-root correct?
I have read some are seeing better wifi strength with EL29.
So my questions are:
(1) Is it worth it to go to EL29?
(2) Is it a simple process to unroot, do the update, then root again with the EL29 root one click? Is is the same steps as EK02
You don't need to unroot, if that is all you did. If, using your root powers, you installed CWM, uninstalled bloat, otherwise made changes to your ROM, then those would need to be undone *if* you wanted to apply an OTA patch-style update to get EL29.
EL29 plugged the exploit that was being used by Auto Root to root your phone, so EL29 cannot be directly rooted right now. However there are alternatives:
1) you could use the pre-rooted EL29 ODIN One-Click in my signature. After it is installed, use Option C in Auto Root to install CWM if you want it
2) you could use the rooted EL29 OTA udpate, also in my signature. Instructions are in the thread
3) you could flash the rooted EL29 update.zip that Calkulin put out, then flash the modem by hand. I don't have the link handy. Search the dev section.
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You don't need to unroot, if that is all you did. If, using your root powers, you installed CWM, uninstalled bloat, otherwise made changes to your ROM, then those would need to be undone *if* you wanted to apply an OTA patch-style update to get EL29.
EL29 plugged the exploit that was being used by Auto Root to root your phone, so EL29 cannot be directly rooted right now. However there are alternatives:
1) you could use the pre-rooted EL29 ODIN One-Click in my signature. After it is installed, use Option C in Auto Root to install CWM if you want it
2) you could use the rooted EL29 OTA udpate, also in my signature. Instructions are in the thread
3) you could flash the rooted EL29 update.zip that Calkulin put out, then flash the modem by hand. I don't have the link handy. Search the dev section.
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I was about to respond.. but man sfhub, you are always on top of these type of posts! I've learned a lot from reading your posts. You're always very clear on instructions and don't assume everyone knows everything.
Am I clear that if I am stock rooted and accept the OTA, in order to root again I wud need a modified ROM... I wud not be able to root for just wifi tether??
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You don't need to unroot, if that is all you did. If, using your root powers, you installed CWM, uninstalled bloat, otherwise made changes to your ROM, then those would need to be undone *if* you wanted to apply an OTA patch-style update to get EL29.
EL29 plugged the exploit that was being used by Auto Root to root your phone, so EL29 cannot be directly rooted right now. However there are alternatives:
1) you could use the pre-rooted EL29 ODIN One-Click in my signature. After it is installed, use Option C in Auto Root to install CWM if you want it
2) you could use the rooted EL29 OTA udpate, also in my signature. Instructions are in the thread
3) you could flash the rooted EL29 update.zip that Calkulin put out, then flash the modem by hand. I don't have the link handy. Search the dev section.
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dw0d said:
Am I clear that if I am stock rooted and accept the OTA, in order to root again I wud need a modified ROM... I wud not be able to root for just wifi tether??
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There's no sense in accepting OTA updates anymore if you are rooted. We get it here on xda faster than sprint pushes them out. It will just break root anyway (assuming you haven't modified any system files, delete bloatware, ect). If you modified some stuff, the update would fail. I wouldn't bother with it. The easiest way would be to ODIN the pre-rooted EL29 stock in sfhub's signature. It'll update the modem, rom and stuff to EL29. Use the 'no-data' version if you want to keep all your data intact. That's what I did, coming from a stock EK02, only rooted.
Thx I will give a shot... XDA rocks
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dw0d said:
Am I clear that if I am stock rooted and accept the OTA, in order to root again I wud need a modified ROM... I wud not be able to root for just wifi tether??
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If you use the pre-rooted EL29 ODIN One-Click in my signature "modified ROM" is really just the addition of 3 files to the ROM to root it. Everything else is stock. It is exactly the same as if you ran Option A on your own ROM. It is just done for you. In fact, you could actually use Option B in Auto Root to unroot your phone and it would be 100% stock.
Same goes for the rooted EL29 OTA in my signature.
sfhub....Thanks for the tips. You showed me how to root a couple weeks ago and it has been great. I'm still cautious and didn't do many tweaks. I did freeze a few apps including voice command so I didn't have to use that every time I wanted to bluetooth dial.
So if I haven't made any major changes to the stock rooted EK02 I can just use the option #2 you said, right? And just pull it from your sig?
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Thx I will give a shot... XDA rocks
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And this is why I love XDA.
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jkhawk said:
I did freeze a few apps including voice command so I didn't have to use that every time I wanted to bluetooth dial.
So if I haven't made any major changes to the stock rooted EK02 I can just use the option #2 you said, right? And just pull it from your sig?
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Yes, freezing is fine. Only uninstalling or modifying would cause the OTA to fail.
In the instructions for the EL29 OTA there will be an optional step to run the EK02->EL29 OTA Compliance Check. Just run that and it will tell you if anything is missing or changed. Takes around a minute. SHA1FAIL for kernel/zImage is expected. Any other MISSING or SHA1FAIL would need to be addressed.
Okay guys, my phone has EK02 and rooted with stock Rom. I don't mind losing the root, if I can get it back using that same method, will sfhub method work after I do the OTA update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
Will titanium backup affect the phone in any way?
You cant root EL29 or any EL with the Auto Root. Since the phones rooted you might be able to option C EL29+CWM (on the latest version) but im not 100% on that and it wont flash the modem for you.
But what I will point you to is something that does work also from sfhub - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
There are 2 versions in there a full and a no data. This will flash the modem for you which otherwise would not be done. But to get CWM you still need to use the E4GT Auto option C and EL29+CWM. But with these you will have a stock rooted EL29 and upon the last step custom recovery.
I am sure someone else, sfhub of course included can comment on just using e4gt auto to copy the EL29+CWM rom over.
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You cant root EL29 or any EL with the Auto Root. Since the phones rooted you might be able to option C EL29+CWM (on the latest version) but im not 100% on that and it wont flash the modem for you.
But what I will point you to is something that does work also from sfhub - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433101
There are 2 versions in there a full and a no data. This will flash the modem for you which otherwise would not be done. But to get CWM you still need to use the E4GT Auto option C and EL29+CWM. But with these you will have a stock rooted EL29 and upon the last step custom recovery.
I am sure someone else, sfhub of course included can comment on just using e4gt auto to copy the EL29+CWM rom over.
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So it would probably safer for a noob like me to go the long route, ie.. Perform OTA update>>>reRoot using option A>>>Then running option C after A is completed.
The only reason I say this because I've been reading and noticing that people are losing their WIFI or 3G antenna after installing CMW.
So i've been kinda skeptical about running CMW.
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So it would probably safer for a noob like me to go the long route, ie.. Perform OTA update>>>reRoot using option A>>>Then running option C after A is completed.
The only reason I say this because I've been reading and noticing that people are losing their WIFI or 3G antenna after installing CMW.
So i've been kinda skeptical about running CMW.
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You shouldn't lose WIFI or 3G if you use the option 'c' in the auto-root package. Its a stock kernel with only CWM added, I believe.
You can't use the auto-root anymore after EK02. They plugged that exploit from EL13 and up. You have to use sfhubs pre-rooted odin one click packages. You only use the auto root to either unroot or add CWM. If you want EL29 + stock, use the pre-rooted odin package (no data version, if you want to retain your stuff). Its simple to do. CMW is optional after that if you want to flash custom mods or roms.
As i said beforeyou cant use auto root on el29 . The zerg exploit is patched. If you OTA update the only way to get root back is ODIN which is going to overwrite anything previously done anyways.
If the phone passes the ek02 to el29 check under the d option on the latest auto root you CAN ota update to EL29 and you LOSE root. At which point you will need to use ODIN or sfhubs One Click ODIN for EL29 to have root.
All you need todo to go straight to a stock rooted EL29 is run sfhubs one click odin for el29 and he has a no data option that wont delete your apps and info.
If you pass the check you can alternatively use sfhubs ota style update he has posted. But the odin is one and done. Very simple.
I am using cwm via proper methods personally nothing to report. 3g 4g and wifi all good on my end.
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You shouldn't lose WIFI or 3G if you use the option 'c' in the auto-root package. Its a stock kernel with only CWM added, I believe.
You can't use the auto-root anymore after EK02. They plugged that exploit from EL13 and up. You have to use sfhubs pre-rooted odin one click packages. You only use the auto root to either unroot or add CWM. If you want EL29 + stock, use the pre-rooted odin package (no data version, if you want to retain your stuff). Its simple to do. CMW is optional after that if you want to flash custom mods or roms.
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RainMotorsports said:
As i said beforeyou cant use auto root on el29 . The zerg exploit is patched. If you OTA update the only way to get root back is ODIN which is going to overwrite anything previously done anyways.
If the phone passes the ek02 to el29 check under the d option on the latest auto root you CAN ota update to EL29 and you LOSE root. At which point you will need to use ODIN or sfhubs One Click ODIN for EL29 to have root.
All you need todo to go straight to a stock rooted EL29 is run sfhubs one click odin for el29 and he has a no data option that wont delete your apps and info.
If you pass the check you can alternatively use sfhubs ota style update he has posted. But the odin is one and done. Very simple.
I am using cwm via proper methods personally nothing to report. 3g 4g and wifi all good on my end.
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I didn't understand at first, but after watching the video and both of you guys explanations, i'm in like flint.
I will do this later on and you guys posted, looks pretty straight forward.
lexvdub1 said:
I didn't understand at first, but after watching the video and both of you guys explanations, i'm in like flint.
I will do this later on and you guys posted, looks pretty straight forward.
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Yup, simple as it can get. I just did this about 2 Weeks ago. Took about 10 mins to do. Just follow sfhub's clear instructions on the thread. Also came from just stock ek02 + root and wanted to update to el29 with only root.
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Yup, simple as it can get. I just did this about 2 Weeks ago. Took about 10 mins to do. Just follow sfhub's clear instructions on the thread. Also came from just stock ek02 + root and wanted to update to el29 with only root.
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Guys rooting and CWM worked with no problem, thanks for the help.
One question, I performed a NANDROID backup, where is this backup stored?
I want to root my phone, and was wondering if the autoroot located on this site will work with the latest update of ICS that sprint pushed.
Will this root allow the wifi tether to work, and get rid of the sprint bloat wear?
acefilleddreams said:
I want to root my phone, and was wondering if the autoroot located on this site will work with the latest update of ICS that sprint pushed.
Will this root allow the wifi tether to work, and get rid of the sprint bloat wear?
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yes the FF18+ root one click odin is the OTA update with root added. Make sure you get a safe kernel/recovery. (flash via odin or mobile odin) Yes there are a few wifi tether apps that you can download, since most need root access to run. once you have that look for caukulin's bare rom converter. it will remove all the bloat ware and put in a removed apps folder on your sd card in case you want anything back. (Flash it thru CWM/recovery) Or there is a list on here that has all the apps you can remove using root explorer or equivalent app. system/apps is the file location.
FF18 autoroot: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229
Agat63 kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1767421
Bare rom converter/list of removed apps in the first post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332837
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yes the FF18+ root one click odin is the OTA update with root added. Make sure you get a safe kernel/recovery. (flash via odin or mobile odin) Yes there are a few wifi tether apps that you can download, since most need root access to run. once you have that look for caukulin's bare rom converter. it will remove all the bloat ware and put in a removed apps folder on your sd card in case you want anything back. (Flash it thru CWM/recovery) Or there is a list on here that has all the apps you can remove using root explorer or equivalent app. system/apps is the file location.
FF18 autoroot: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229
Agat63 kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1767421
Bare rom converter/list of removed apps in the first post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332837
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do flash the kernal before I run the autoroot? sry if that is obv
acefilleddreams said:
do flash the kernal before I run the autoroot? sry if that is obv
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no flash auto root. then kernel.