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Best way to get ROOT and keep stock kernel?

Hey guys. I actually don't even have this phone yet but will be getting it shortly. I definitely want to root it (I have a rooted EVO 4G and Xoom tablet) I'm a little confused though about the different methods I'm seeing.
My goal is to obtain a fully rooted phone w/ stock everything. What is the best method to do this?

ODIN this and you will get CWM, root, Ive found the LOStkernel to be a lot better than stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296348

Smoked600 said:
ODIN this and you will get CWM, root, Ive found the LOStkernel to be a lot better than stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296348
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Sorry for the noob question but when I watch Qbking's video on this kernel he says you need to be rooted and have CWM installed to flash the kernel. But what you're saying is this kernel can provide root, add CWM and flash the kernel if you use Odin to do it? If so, I'm right in saying I'd want to download the TAR file rather than the ZIP? For root, would I need to flash SuperUser via CWM or is it built into the kernel?
I've been thinking about jumping into root soon to try out the Starburst ROM and I've evaluating the cleanest way to gain Root + CWM. I was thinking about using Bubby's method, but this seems solid too if my assumptions above are correct. This would be my first Android root by the way so I'm being patient and extra careful.

I just got this phone recently and rooted it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1268548
thats a really good place to start. but to be honest every time you use odin and you flash a kernal in odin you'll get an annoying Yellow triangle that pops up in the beggining. So Your best bet is to flash to a kernal to gain root then flash the kernal from the unroot tutorial as if your unrooting the phone it wont remove superuser.apk automatically, and it will remove the yellow triangle, then from that point just use either cwm or the zimage flasher from adb to do it.
My recommended steps are
this one first for gaining root
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kExN-Y2pfxA
then this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySskTt-S-cM
Follow links in youtube description.
after you do that, don't use odin anymore just use cwm and that adb script for changing kernals and you'll never get that annoying triangle again.
Also be aware that everytime you flash with odin the phones bootloader records that you flashed it, meaning even if you take it back to stock if sprint wants to look at it for warranty purposes they can still see that you did something to it. which means that youll need a $2 jig to wipe that count which I don't even know where that is.
If you can use a temp root thats used for 2.3 gingerbread on other devices then use second link in youtube to avoid using odin, I kinda wished I knew before because then I would have done some more experimenting with the phone. so annoying, I have control of this device and at the same time not which really sucks!
Edit BTW: Why use the starburst rom it doesnt really look that snazy to me for me to consider jumping to it the stock one works great why not just flash a deodex stock one and flash a theme to it, theres some really sick themes in the theme section of xda check it out! XD

Smoked600 said:
ODIN this and you will get CWM, root, Ive found the LOStkernel to be a lot better than stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296348
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I had some wake lag (about 2 second delay between pressing the power button and screen turning on) with the LoStKernel, so I've been running this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284511
It's been working well for me so far. You'll have to get root access first, so try out the LoStKernel to gain root access and if you don't like it switch to this.

[Q] Need help with updating to gingerbread w/root

Hi i currently have stock rom but have it rooted. Can someone provide me with a link to update my phone to the new update w/root or let me know what I need to do? Thanks!
Also I am not sure if I am running ext or rfs can some tell me how to figure that out?

A great place to start learning about modding the Epic are the QBKing77 videos on youtube. Just search for them or check out the links to his videos in most of the OPs in the development section. There are a ton of custom roms to play with right now, as well as the stock EI22 Gingerbread rom that came out OTA.

Thanks as I said though I am already rooted but unsure if its ext 4 or RFS I need help figuring that out and then I think I can just odin it from their.
I wish to stay on stock.

Might I suggest taking a look at the MostlyStockROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339579
You can even go to the "old links" and choose to download the deodexed only first release which is Stock + doedexed + root. Or choose one of the newer releases which has the fixes/features you want.
If you want EI22 Fully Stock then I believe you will need to unroot your existing install and install the OWA. I haven't seen a stock ODIN method but may have missed it.

I see. How do I unroot my phone?

odin back to stock ec05.

ok so then how do I root my phone after going back to stock updating then what?
Or couldn't I just do a factory reset then update?

newguy0804 said:
ok so then how do I root my phone after going back to stock updating then what?
Or couldn't I just do a factory reset then update?
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Once you odin back to stock ec05, it'll do the OTA update onto ei22. That's how I did my phone. Warning, once you odin back, you'll lose all your app and data.

I'm not worried about that I have titanium back up pro. their has got to be a easier way to do this though. Before All I had to do was Odin to the next update and that was it (eco5) now I have to odin back to stock remove root then update and then reroot...... thats a lot of work.
Is their a way to do this without un-rooting my phone?
Also can someone shoot me a link to a tutorial on going back to stock?
Also once root is removed I take it I would have to re root it. (this is ridiculous un root, update, reroot)
So what DO i do to re-root it?

newguy0804 said:
Im not worried about that I have titanium back up pro. their has got to be a easier way to do this though. Before All I had to do was Odin to the next update and that was it (eco5) now I have to odin then update and do it agian...... thats a lot of work.
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you can just download the file and install it using CWM but i'm 0 for 2 with this method.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB956i_KEp4

Follow the video that babystewie posted. I've used it twice, both succeeding with no issues what so ever. It will allow you to update to GB with root, but will give you a stock version of GB. If you're interested in rooting GB as well, check the video description and there's some more videos.

There are a lot of mostly stock roms or even just a cwm flashable ei22 in the development section. You'll keep root and won't have to go through using odin so many times.

what do you mean a stock version of gingerbread? also I already have clockwork if that helps does it mean i have ti do anything different if i want to keep root?

There really is no completely stock Gingerbread ROMs because we don't have the tar file for the Odin flash. There are several ROMs in the Development thread (where the ROMs are) that are mostly stock. You can simply flash one of those, and if you want the EI22 modem, you can flash the EC05 to EI22 modem updater found in the stickies in development. I recommend you start here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337453

EL29 unroot and then re-rooting

I searched and didn't get exact answer to easy my mind.
If I want to upgrade to EL29 I am rooted on stock EK02, I need to unroot and then re-root correct?
I have read some are seeing better wifi strength with EL29.
So my questions are:
(1) Is it worth it to go to EL29?
(2) Is it a simple process to unroot, do the update, then root again with the EL29 root one click? Is is the same steps as EK02

You don't need to unroot, if that is all you did. If, using your root powers, you installed CWM, uninstalled bloat, otherwise made changes to your ROM, then those would need to be undone *if* you wanted to apply an OTA patch-style update to get EL29.
EL29 plugged the exploit that was being used by Auto Root to root your phone, so EL29 cannot be directly rooted right now. However there are alternatives:
1) you could use the pre-rooted EL29 ODIN One-Click in my signature. After it is installed, use Option C in Auto Root to install CWM if you want it
2) you could use the rooted EL29 OTA udpate, also in my signature. Instructions are in the thread
3) you could flash the rooted EL29 update.zip that Calkulin put out, then flash the modem by hand. I don't have the link handy. Search the dev section.

sfhub said:
You don't need to unroot, if that is all you did. If, using your root powers, you installed CWM, uninstalled bloat, otherwise made changes to your ROM, then those would need to be undone *if* you wanted to apply an OTA patch-style update to get EL29.
EL29 plugged the exploit that was being used by Auto Root to root your phone, so EL29 cannot be directly rooted right now. However there are alternatives:
1) you could use the pre-rooted EL29 ODIN One-Click in my signature. After it is installed, use Option C in Auto Root to install CWM if you want it
2) you could use the rooted EL29 OTA udpate, also in my signature. Instructions are in the thread
3) you could flash the rooted EL29 update.zip that Calkulin put out, then flash the modem by hand. I don't have the link handy. Search the dev section.
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I was about to respond.. but man sfhub, you are always on top of these type of posts! I've learned a lot from reading your posts. You're always very clear on instructions and don't assume everyone knows everything.

Am I clear that if I am stock rooted and accept the OTA, in order to root again I wud need a modified ROM... I wud not be able to root for just wifi tether??
sfhub said:
You don't need to unroot, if that is all you did. If, using your root powers, you installed CWM, uninstalled bloat, otherwise made changes to your ROM, then those would need to be undone *if* you wanted to apply an OTA patch-style update to get EL29.
EL29 plugged the exploit that was being used by Auto Root to root your phone, so EL29 cannot be directly rooted right now. However there are alternatives:
1) you could use the pre-rooted EL29 ODIN One-Click in my signature. After it is installed, use Option C in Auto Root to install CWM if you want it
2) you could use the rooted EL29 OTA udpate, also in my signature. Instructions are in the thread
3) you could flash the rooted EL29 update.zip that Calkulin put out, then flash the modem by hand. I don't have the link handy. Search the dev section.
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dw0d said:
Am I clear that if I am stock rooted and accept the OTA, in order to root again I wud need a modified ROM... I wud not be able to root for just wifi tether??
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There's no sense in accepting OTA updates anymore if you are rooted. We get it here on xda faster than sprint pushes them out. It will just break root anyway (assuming you haven't modified any system files, delete bloatware, ect). If you modified some stuff, the update would fail. I wouldn't bother with it. The easiest way would be to ODIN the pre-rooted EL29 stock in sfhub's signature. It'll update the modem, rom and stuff to EL29. Use the 'no-data' version if you want to keep all your data intact. That's what I did, coming from a stock EK02, only rooted.

Thx I will give a shot... XDA rocks
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dw0d said:
Am I clear that if I am stock rooted and accept the OTA, in order to root again I wud need a modified ROM... I wud not be able to root for just wifi tether??
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If you use the pre-rooted EL29 ODIN One-Click in my signature "modified ROM" is really just the addition of 3 files to the ROM to root it. Everything else is stock. It is exactly the same as if you ran Option A on your own ROM. It is just done for you. In fact, you could actually use Option B in Auto Root to unroot your phone and it would be 100% stock.
Same goes for the rooted EL29 OTA in my signature.

sfhub....Thanks for the tips. You showed me how to root a couple weeks ago and it has been great. I'm still cautious and didn't do many tweaks. I did freeze a few apps including voice command so I didn't have to use that every time I wanted to bluetooth dial.
So if I haven't made any major changes to the stock rooted EK02 I can just use the option #2 you said, right? And just pull it from your sig?

dw0d said:
Thx I will give a shot... XDA rocks
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And this is why I love XDA.
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jkhawk said:
I did freeze a few apps including voice command so I didn't have to use that every time I wanted to bluetooth dial.
So if I haven't made any major changes to the stock rooted EK02 I can just use the option #2 you said, right? And just pull it from your sig?
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Yes, freezing is fine. Only uninstalling or modifying would cause the OTA to fail.
In the instructions for the EL29 OTA there will be an optional step to run the EK02->EL29 OTA Compliance Check. Just run that and it will tell you if anything is missing or changed. Takes around a minute. SHA1FAIL for kernel/zImage is expected. Any other MISSING or SHA1FAIL would need to be addressed.

Maybe a dumb question....

Ok, so I have rooted my Epic Touch strictly using odin. I downloaded the stock ics tar that was already rooted. It did not however, include CWM for adding custom ROMs. I would I would like to know if i can put the CWM in and not mess up root or should I unroot and do the root a different way so CWM is included? I just dont want to brick my phone. I would like to play with different ROMs but not brick my phone.
Thanks in advance. Hope I stated what I am trying to do correctly.
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Easiest way to add a kernel with CWM would be just using the old auto rooter. Option C and pick whatever firmware you have. So EL29 + CWM is L - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
Just read the instructions. Goto settings > applications > developer options and tick the usb debugging and then connect the usb cable.
To help you understand odin and how you rooted your phone I will say this. When you used ODIN as the method to root your phone, and if you were on EL29 it was the only way to. What happened is you actually reflashed the firmware with a copy that was rooted. As long as you dont install a rom that for some reason doesn't have root which would be sorta odd or ODIN a tar over thats not rooted (or use a non rooted one click) you likely won't lose root. Unless you really wanted to
ODIN can also be used to flash parts of firmware such as the modem or a kernel etc. But as for your root someone rooted a rom repackaged it for flashing with ODIN.

Thank you!! Worked like a charm... Now to remember how to launch into CWM again lol....

Power the phone down, then hold volume up and power button together until CWM pops up.

pixiedust7976 said:
Ok, so I have rooted my Epic Touch strictly using odin. I downloaded the stock ics tar that was already rooted. It did not however, include CWM for adding custom ROMs. I would I would like to know if i can put the CWM in and not mess up root or should I unroot and do the root a different way so CWM is included? I just dont want to brick my phone. I would like to play with different ROMs but not brick my phone.
Thanks in advance. Hope I stated what I am trying to do correctly.
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I hate to be a killjoy but I'm pretty sure you stated that you're using ICS?
I wouldn't recommend using CWM in ICS. Even seasoned developers have turned their phones into paperweights because of issues with ICS and recovery.
If you want to see what ICS is like that's fine. However, if you're new and want to play around with ROMS that support recovery, you should ODIN back to Gingerbread.
There are a TON of threads here concerning issues with ICS and recovery that have had fatal consequences to the owners' phone.

[Q] Stressed out with so much info :P Trying to root SIII

I'm sure this has been brought up before but with 20 something internet tabs and countless youtube videos I definitely get the jist of what needs to be done in order to root the phone as I've done it a few years ago with another phone. The problem i'm having is I think I'm making this more complicated than it is. First off, I cannot find a NON rooted stock Bell rom for galaxy S III SGH-I747M all I can find are rooted ones. I'm trying to root my phone yes but what if I wanna revert back to stock with no root? I haven't found one yet. Secondly all the different roms I been finding are 555mb to 725mb in size, I just want to root my phone I don't recall half gig sized files just to do that. So then I downloaded a stock rom apperantly named stock root66_tar it's 1.5 GB!! it doesn't have anything else with it. I feel like an idiot because there's so many files and OTA and LH1 and stock rom, kernel, ect I know they all mean something I guess I'm just overwhealmed with so much info, I just want to root my Galaxy S III SGH-I747M from Bell and then if and when I choose I want to be able to unroot it and have a copy of a stock untouched unrooted rom, and then I still don't know if I need to have a stock rom to unroot.
I'm currently on this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
seems straight forward as I just want a stock rom with root access no fancy CWM or rom flashing and I'm downloading the Bell rom which it says its stock just root injected...im guessing that means it's rooted but again if I need warranty repairs or need kies to update my phone when jelly bean comes out I will need to unroot the phone so kies recognizes my phone and allows me to update to 4.1 hope someone can send me in the right direction from the thread im in and can let me know about unrooting and wether or not if a rooted phone can be recognized by kies to update to jelly bean next month when it comes out as I dont wanna be stuck not able to update all because I rooted my phone and don't know how to fully reverse the process. Thank you

1st download odin from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1165122&d=1340993443
2nd download this http://www.blownco.com/smartguy/CWM-Recovery-LTE-SGS3-v5.tar.tar
3rd download this http://www.blownco.com/smartguy/Superuser-3.1.3-arm-signed.zip
ok so the 1st download is odin what you need to do is open that and put the 2nd download (which is clockwordmod recovery) into the pda part of odin and hit start...when its done phone will reboot. after phone is reboot you need to put the 3rd download onto your sdcard and then reboot back into recovery and flash that zip and that will put superuser on your phone which will give you root.

smartguy044 said:
1st download odin from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1165122&d=1340993443
2nd download this http://www.blownco.com/smartguy/CWM-Recovery-LTE-SGS3-v5.tar.tar
3rd download this http://www.blownco.com/smartguy/Superuser-3.1.3-arm-signed.zip
ok so the 1st download is odin what you need to do is open that and put the 2nd download (which is clockwordmod recovery) into the pda part of odin and hit start...when its done phone will reboot. after phone is reboot you need to put the 3rd download onto your sdcard and then reboot back into recovery and flash that zip and that will put superuser on your phone which will give you root.
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Thanks for the info I'm just about to read it now. seems so far from what else I been researching about that thread I linked is that a stock rom that is root injected not trippin the timer thingy means I can just unroot it by simply doing a factory reset unless I read that wrong. Since im just going for root on a stock rom with no recovery as im told I dont need it if I don't plan on flashin different roms, but I see you mention downloading it so I take it I should ? even though I don't plan on flashing other roms? I just downloaded your 3 files you linked and it was interesting that it was all about 7MB where as the other thread the file was over 600 MB lol and both are to root as well.

Yea its just good to have just incase you do decide to flash a custom rom like the team insomnia roms but there is no need to worry about flash counter since there ia an app to reset it for you
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smartguy044 said:
Yea its just good to have just incase you do decide to flash a custom rom like the team insomnia roms but there is no need to worry about flash counter since there ia an app to reset it for you
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ah I see now I have another dumb question before I go to bed, what is the difference between rooting my phone using the files you supplied which is like 1 mb for the super user which gives root access as you say and flashing it using the stock rom that's 600 MB with root injection?
what are the differences between them both? would seem impractical to download a 600mb file if a 1mb file does the same thing unless I'm blind and too tired as Ive been up over 30 hours. Thanks for the replies and I will be back tomorrow to check on this thread for any additional info anyone writes.

Well the way i suggest just leaves you with the stock eom you are currently using and the whole process will prob be completed by the time you download half of the stock rooted rom......both ways work but the way i mention is just the one i use
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If you already have a "recovery" image installed, then you don't need to worry about rooting the phone. Just flash a root injected ROM as you mentioned.
But if you don't already have a recovery image (like TWRP or Clockwork Mod) then it's easier/quicker to flash a recovery if your phone is already rooted.

Thanks for the replies, I will experiment with both methods but before I hit the button once and for all I will try to find out in the meantime what I need to unroot it with a stock rom which I did download but it says root injected which I'm guessing is just that it's a rooted stock rom so then technically it's not stock if it's root injected? and I'm trying to figure out if I do a factory reset from the root injected rom if it brings it back like it was from the factory.
PS: after more reading I found out you need a non root injected stock rom to go back to 100% factory, for the life of me I cannot find a stock rom that is NON root injected for when I want to unroot and flash back to factory for Bell Galaxy S III SGH-I747M.