Ok, so I have rooted my Epic Touch strictly using odin. I downloaded the stock ics tar that was already rooted. It did not however, include CWM for adding custom ROMs. I would I would like to know if i can put the CWM in and not mess up root or should I unroot and do the root a different way so CWM is included? I just dont want to brick my phone. I would like to play with different ROMs but not brick my phone.
Thanks in advance. Hope I stated what I am trying to do correctly.
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Easiest way to add a kernel with CWM would be just using the old auto rooter. Option C and pick whatever firmware you have. So EL29 + CWM is L - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
Just read the instructions. Goto settings > applications > developer options and tick the usb debugging and then connect the usb cable.
To help you understand odin and how you rooted your phone I will say this. When you used ODIN as the method to root your phone, and if you were on EL29 it was the only way to. What happened is you actually reflashed the firmware with a copy that was rooted. As long as you dont install a rom that for some reason doesn't have root which would be sorta odd or ODIN a tar over thats not rooted (or use a non rooted one click) you likely won't lose root. Unless you really wanted to
ODIN can also be used to flash parts of firmware such as the modem or a kernel etc. But as for your root someone rooted a rom repackaged it for flashing with ODIN.
Thank you!! Worked like a charm... Now to remember how to launch into CWM again lol....
Power the phone down, then hold volume up and power button together until CWM pops up.
pixiedust7976 said:
Ok, so I have rooted my Epic Touch strictly using odin. I downloaded the stock ics tar that was already rooted. It did not however, include CWM for adding custom ROMs. I would I would like to know if i can put the CWM in and not mess up root or should I unroot and do the root a different way so CWM is included? I just dont want to brick my phone. I would like to play with different ROMs but not brick my phone.
Thanks in advance. Hope I stated what I am trying to do correctly.
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I hate to be a killjoy but I'm pretty sure you stated that you're using ICS?
I wouldn't recommend using CWM in ICS. Even seasoned developers have turned their phones into paperweights because of issues with ICS and recovery.
If you want to see what ICS is like that's fine. However, if you're new and want to play around with ROMS that support recovery, you should ODIN back to Gingerbread.
There are a TON of threads here concerning issues with ICS and recovery that have had fatal consequences to the owners' phone.
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I have read through this forum and I am still unclear about a few things. First off I have a vibrant and have been flashing roms/themes, ect. I just got a epic 4g and get things straight before flashing.
1. The epic is completely stock, can i just use z4 root then flash cwm from rom manager on market? Or do I need a different kernel first? If I do need a new kernel, could I just use one of the kernel flashers on the market like SGS Flasher so I do not need to use odin?
Every thread I have seen has been mentioning using odin for the root/cwm 3 process. I have a macbook pro and my desktop pc is ancient so I try to avoid using odin whenever possible.
2. Just to confirm, is it really hard to actually brick this phone? I have messed around with my Vibrant, soft bricking it a few times but never had a problem restoring a stock rom.
3. Once rooted and cwm mod flashed I can go to any rom right?
Thanks and I know there are very similar questions already posted, I just wanted to be 100% clear because some answers were really vague.
You can use z4root but you can't install cwm with rom manager on stock kernel. It is really hard to brick the epic and yes once rooted with cwm you can get to flashing. Odin is used just to flash stock roms. I used it to flash the dk28 froyo rom and I only use it if I have to. Try to get your hands on a windows computer to root it with cwm. You can run the root plus cwm that is stickied in the development section. Once that is done you are ready to go. Good luck
Im in the exact same boat dude. I've had mine for about 4 days and still haven't done anything else but update to DK28. I did the z4root first, then thee next day I did the update. Now my SU doesn't work and I can't unroot using z4root. Phone just starts to vibrate and then I get a FC. I dunno, going to have to odin once I get some time. Really diggin my epic, but the vibrant was so simple and fun.
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rrodxbox360repair said:
I have read through this forum and I am still unclear about a few things. First off I have a vibrant and have been flashing roms/themes, ect. I just got a epic 4g and get things straight before flashing.
1. The epic is completely stock, can i just use z4 root then flash cwm from rom manager on market? Or do I need a different kernel first? If I do need a new kernel, could I just use one of the kernel flashers on the market like SGS Flasher so I do not need to use odin?
Every thread I have seen has been mentioning using odin for the root/cwm 3 process. I have a macbook pro and my desktop pc is ancient so I try to avoid using odin whenever possible.
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While you may be able to use z4root to to root your phone, like musclehead84, I am under the impression that you can't install CWM through Rom Manager on the stock kernel (LINK supporting this, I may be wrong though). It may work with other kernels, but to flash those kernels, you need CWM... kind of a Catch 22. Not sure if SGS Flasher will work for flashing a new kernel, but if I recall correctly, I remember reading atleast one thread resulting the need for a restore after using SGS Flasher (Odin or Nandroid, can't remember which).
And your not using Odin for root/CWM, your using adb (included with the one click root and CWM download), which I believe can be run from the terminal on a Mac with the right adb version ('one click' OSX LINK using older joey-krim root method, but if your flashing a new pre-rooted rom anyway, will work fine).
2. Just to confirm, is it really hard to actually brick this phone? I have messed around with my Vibrant, soft bricking it a few times but never had a problem restoring a stock rom.
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Yes, it is fairly hard to actually brick the Epic. If you have issues flashing your phone with Odin, the most likely culprit will be the usb cable. I have also read others having luck with removing the micro sd card before flashing, or even booting into download mode (which is done by holding '1' on the keyboard while pressing the power button) while leaving the battery removed.
3. Once rooted and cwm mod flashed I can go to any rom right?
Thanks and I know there are very similar questions already posted, I just wanted to be 100% clear because some answers were really vague.
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Yes, with a couple caveat's... If your flashing a froyo rom, you will need to make sure you also atleast update the modem to the proper one (i.e. DK28) using Odin, or flash the leaked 'official' beta update.zip while on a stock DI18 to take you to DK28 with modem, (LINK with instructions, would do this before bothering to root or anything though). And if you decide to convert to EXT4 (DK28 only), that's a whole other story.
Hey guys. I actually don't even have this phone yet but will be getting it shortly. I definitely want to root it (I have a rooted EVO 4G and Xoom tablet) I'm a little confused though about the different methods I'm seeing.
My goal is to obtain a fully rooted phone w/ stock everything. What is the best method to do this?
ODIN this and you will get CWM, root, Ive found the LOStkernel to be a lot better than stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296348
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ODIN this and you will get CWM, root, Ive found the LOStkernel to be a lot better than stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296348
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Sorry for the noob question but when I watch Qbking's video on this kernel he says you need to be rooted and have CWM installed to flash the kernel. But what you're saying is this kernel can provide root, add CWM and flash the kernel if you use Odin to do it? If so, I'm right in saying I'd want to download the TAR file rather than the ZIP? For root, would I need to flash SuperUser via CWM or is it built into the kernel?
I've been thinking about jumping into root soon to try out the Starburst ROM and I've evaluating the cleanest way to gain Root + CWM. I was thinking about using Bubby's method, but this seems solid too if my assumptions above are correct. This would be my first Android root by the way so I'm being patient and extra careful.
I just got this phone recently and rooted it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1268548
thats a really good place to start. but to be honest every time you use odin and you flash a kernal in odin you'll get an annoying Yellow triangle that pops up in the beggining. So Your best bet is to flash to a kernal to gain root then flash the kernal from the unroot tutorial as if your unrooting the phone it wont remove superuser.apk automatically, and it will remove the yellow triangle, then from that point just use either cwm or the zimage flasher from adb to do it.
My recommended steps are
this one first for gaining root
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kExN-Y2pfxA
then this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySskTt-S-cM
Follow links in youtube description.
after you do that, don't use odin anymore just use cwm and that adb script for changing kernals and you'll never get that annoying triangle again.
Also be aware that everytime you flash with odin the phones bootloader records that you flashed it, meaning even if you take it back to stock if sprint wants to look at it for warranty purposes they can still see that you did something to it. which means that youll need a $2 jig to wipe that count which I don't even know where that is.
If you can use a temp root thats used for 2.3 gingerbread on other devices then use second link in youtube to avoid using odin, I kinda wished I knew before because then I would have done some more experimenting with the phone. so annoying, I have control of this device and at the same time not which really sucks!
Edit BTW: Why use the starburst rom it doesnt really look that snazy to me for me to consider jumping to it the stock one works great why not just flash a deodex stock one and flash a theme to it, theres some really sick themes in the theme section of xda check it out! XD
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ODIN this and you will get CWM, root, Ive found the LOStkernel to be a lot better than stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296348
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I had some wake lag (about 2 second delay between pressing the power button and screen turning on) with the LoStKernel, so I've been running this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284511
It's been working well for me so far. You'll have to get root access first, so try out the LoStKernel to gain root access and if you don't like it switch to this.
I need a little help here.
I rooted my phone when I was in EL29. Everything worked nice and was fine, but then I ran the official update to ICS FF18. I didn't even realize there was a problem until I tried to under clock to save battery. It said root access was not granted, I downloaded root checker and it confirmed that I don't have root.
Super User is still installed but has no real function. I would like to know how to reroot without harming my phone.
I was also wondering about Clockwork recovery and installing different roms, my Android OS uses 60% of my battery and I'd like to have something a little more light weight. I tried flashing my recovery with Rom Manager but it does not have my model under devices.
Any help would be appreciated.
Dude, sounds like you just gotta read a little more(annoying answer I know).
If you ran the official update that's not rooted, you'd have to do either sfhubs one click official rooted's, or flash a custom rom through recovery. And also, Never use rom manager for anything, its not set up for our phones, so you don't want to use it to get temp recovery. You can use Odin to flash a kernel with recovery onto a stock setup to get you started, then flash either a custom rom, or one of the many stock rooted options in the dev section.
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Ok, that makes sense. I was just worried that if I tried to root it and it was already rooted that I would brick or something. I'm pretty sure I can handle it now knowing that I just have to root and flash like usual.
Is there a "best" rom for the E4GT or is it just based on preference?
Root here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229
Then go here, use option D for cwm.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
As sleshepic states, stay away from Rom Manager (for E4GT, anyway...). If you're having battery issues, you can use a battery conservation app. You can also underclock (or auto-underclock when phone usage is low) with Set CPU.
Ok so i decided to do the update on the tmobile samsung s3, lost root and tried to do the zedomax method.that didnt work, tired a couple other method. they didnt work either. i dont know what to do.... phone is working fine but i cant get Odin to push cwm, i keep getting failed on the cwm install. i truly read all and researched and anything else im having issue understanding. can someone make a video or help on another method that worked for them.
Follow the guide how to root without tripping flash counter over at the development thread. Once your stock and rooted. Download ROM man anger and flash recovery from there. Forget about flashing cwm through Odin . Do it this way it always works.
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how can i root my phone is i need a recovery. right?
Gregory.u317 said:
how can i root my phone is i need a recovery. right?
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You will need
-ODIN
-Install-able ROM package mentioned above
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-ODIN
-Custom recovery
-Install-able SuperSU (Root)
-Triangle Away
Gregory.u317 said:
how can i root my phone is i need a recovery. right?
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No. You need root first if you follow that thread I was telling you about. But the cool thing is when you use Odin following the thread I told you. After your phone reboots you will find superuser that means root. Then you can flash recover through rom manager. Just make sure to put any ROMs you want to flash on your internal SD card and not the external. When you flash a ROM you will be rooted. Custom ROMs that is.
Pm me if you need more help
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It worked and i figured it out. had to read it over like 5 times but i got it thanks...
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I wanted to root also. Im on stock with latest update. So let me make it clear: (Im a total noob spending the whole last night to learn about rooting)
First, I do this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771687 .
Ok so now I have rooted stock with latest update. It will wipe my sd card, correct?
Next, I go to Google Play to download Rom Manager. then flash CWM recovery. (I want to root because I want backup)
I heard the official tmo JB is coming soon. I suppose I will not be able to update through Kies with my phone rooted, right? so what is the best way to update to JB? thanks guys
rookiegenius said:
I wanted to root also. Im on stock with latest update. So let me make it clear: (Im a total noob spending the whole last night to learn about rooting)
First, I do this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771687 .
Ok so now I have rooted stock with latest update. It will wipe my sd card, correct?
Next, I go to Google Play to download Rom Manager. then flash CWM recovery. (I want to root because I want backup)
I heard the official tmo JB is coming soon. I suppose I will not be able to update through Kies with my phone rooted, right? so what is the best way to update to JB? thanks guys
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Yup you are right. Follow what you typed and your into the promise land. As of now some people are lucky enough using voodoo root keeper from market but some aren't. When they try to re root custom recovery isn't sticking. Just wait a couple days. I'm sure devs will have a full rom with latest jb patch included.
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chrisram88 said:
Yup you are right. Follow what you typed and your into the promise land. As of now some people are lucky enough using voodoo root keeper from market but some aren't. When they try to re root custom recovery isn't sticking. Just wait a couple days. I'm sure devs will have a full rom with latest jb patch included.
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what do you mean by "custom recovery isnt sticking"? it is CWM recovery flashed to the recovery partition, isn't it? Also I'm pretty confused. after rooted, can I still do factory reset in the usual way? (go to settings/reset)
Yea some people updated the leak jb and lost root. They then tried and root again and were successful but when trying to flash cwm thru Odin, the recovery wasn't sticking so when they boot into recovery it would only be stock recovery. IF you still have root and wanna grab the jb leak wild just released jb update so go grab it and flash away.
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I'm sure this has been brought up before but with 20 something internet tabs and countless youtube videos I definitely get the jist of what needs to be done in order to root the phone as I've done it a few years ago with another phone. The problem i'm having is I think I'm making this more complicated than it is. First off, I cannot find a NON rooted stock Bell rom for galaxy S III SGH-I747M all I can find are rooted ones. I'm trying to root my phone yes but what if I wanna revert back to stock with no root? I haven't found one yet. Secondly all the different roms I been finding are 555mb to 725mb in size, I just want to root my phone I don't recall half gig sized files just to do that. So then I downloaded a stock rom apperantly named stock root66_tar it's 1.5 GB!! it doesn't have anything else with it. I feel like an idiot because there's so many files and OTA and LH1 and stock rom, kernel, ect I know they all mean something I guess I'm just overwhealmed with so much info, I just want to root my Galaxy S III SGH-I747M from Bell and then if and when I choose I want to be able to unroot it and have a copy of a stock untouched unrooted rom, and then I still don't know if I need to have a stock rom to unroot.
I'm currently on this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426
seems straight forward as I just want a stock rom with root access no fancy CWM or rom flashing and I'm downloading the Bell rom which it says its stock just root injected...im guessing that means it's rooted but again if I need warranty repairs or need kies to update my phone when jelly bean comes out I will need to unroot the phone so kies recognizes my phone and allows me to update to 4.1 hope someone can send me in the right direction from the thread im in and can let me know about unrooting and wether or not if a rooted phone can be recognized by kies to update to jelly bean next month when it comes out as I dont wanna be stuck not able to update all because I rooted my phone and don't know how to fully reverse the process. Thank you
1st download odin from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1165122&d=1340993443
2nd download this http://www.blownco.com/smartguy/CWM-Recovery-LTE-SGS3-v5.tar.tar
3rd download this http://www.blownco.com/smartguy/Superuser-3.1.3-arm-signed.zip
ok so the 1st download is odin what you need to do is open that and put the 2nd download (which is clockwordmod recovery) into the pda part of odin and hit start...when its done phone will reboot. after phone is reboot you need to put the 3rd download onto your sdcard and then reboot back into recovery and flash that zip and that will put superuser on your phone which will give you root.
smartguy044 said:
1st download odin from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1165122&d=1340993443
2nd download this http://www.blownco.com/smartguy/CWM-Recovery-LTE-SGS3-v5.tar.tar
3rd download this http://www.blownco.com/smartguy/Superuser-3.1.3-arm-signed.zip
ok so the 1st download is odin what you need to do is open that and put the 2nd download (which is clockwordmod recovery) into the pda part of odin and hit start...when its done phone will reboot. after phone is reboot you need to put the 3rd download onto your sdcard and then reboot back into recovery and flash that zip and that will put superuser on your phone which will give you root.
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Thanks for the info I'm just about to read it now. seems so far from what else I been researching about that thread I linked is that a stock rom that is root injected not trippin the timer thingy means I can just unroot it by simply doing a factory reset unless I read that wrong. Since im just going for root on a stock rom with no recovery as im told I dont need it if I don't plan on flashin different roms, but I see you mention downloading it so I take it I should ? even though I don't plan on flashing other roms? I just downloaded your 3 files you linked and it was interesting that it was all about 7MB where as the other thread the file was over 600 MB lol and both are to root as well.
Yea its just good to have just incase you do decide to flash a custom rom like the team insomnia roms but there is no need to worry about flash counter since there ia an app to reset it for you
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smartguy044 said:
Yea its just good to have just incase you do decide to flash a custom rom like the team insomnia roms but there is no need to worry about flash counter since there ia an app to reset it for you
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ah I see now I have another dumb question before I go to bed, what is the difference between rooting my phone using the files you supplied which is like 1 mb for the super user which gives root access as you say and flashing it using the stock rom that's 600 MB with root injection?
what are the differences between them both? would seem impractical to download a 600mb file if a 1mb file does the same thing unless I'm blind and too tired as Ive been up over 30 hours. Thanks for the replies and I will be back tomorrow to check on this thread for any additional info anyone writes.
Well the way i suggest just leaves you with the stock eom you are currently using and the whole process will prob be completed by the time you download half of the stock rooted rom......both ways work but the way i mention is just the one i use
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If you already have a "recovery" image installed, then you don't need to worry about rooting the phone. Just flash a root injected ROM as you mentioned.
But if you don't already have a recovery image (like TWRP or Clockwork Mod) then it's easier/quicker to flash a recovery if your phone is already rooted.
Thanks for the replies, I will experiment with both methods but before I hit the button once and for all I will try to find out in the meantime what I need to unroot it with a stock rom which I did download but it says root injected which I'm guessing is just that it's a rooted stock rom so then technically it's not stock if it's root injected? and I'm trying to figure out if I do a factory reset from the root injected rom if it brings it back like it was from the factory.
PS: after more reading I found out you need a non root injected stock rom to go back to 100% factory, for the life of me I cannot find a stock rom that is NON root injected for when I want to unroot and flash back to factory for Bell Galaxy S III SGH-I747M.