I've looked around, but sorry if this is a dumb question. I'm rooted on stock and have been trying to figure out if the latest OTA update will mess up anything if I update it. I can't stand getting asked to update every damn minute. I understand I may have to re-root but it won't brick anything if I update correct? (as a general rule of thumb, at least?)
lrmcdon2 said:
I've looked around, but sorry if this is a dumb question. I'm rooted on stock and have been trying to figure out if the latest OTA update will mess up anything if I update it. I can't stand getting asked to update every damn minute. I understand I may have to re-root but it won't brick anything if I update correct? (as a general rule of thumb, at least?)
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I dont think you should ever do a OTA while Rooted. I'm sure someone is working on a rooted version of the update. I havent gotten any notifications for a OTA, but I know on my Moto Xoom running ICS, there was a option in the setting to turn off notifications for OTA's.
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Okay guys, I just wanted to make sure I got this crystal clear before I take the plunge into the dark side.
So in order to root a stock EVO with new OTA update applied, All I have to do is follow Toast's step 1 & 2 to root and nand unlock and then applied Caulkin's new rooted update on dev site? Please help me out, this is my first time rooting anything and I would hate to brick my phone on my first try.. thank you so much in advance
I'm not entirely sure, but can you even root with today's OTA update applied? I know the first OTA update (on release day) you could still root, but I don't know about today's update allowing root or not. I know if you are rooted and apply today's update that it will break root.
Of all the days to decide to root, the day of an update after applying it isn't exactly the best of ideas.
yeah you can root the OTA update taht came out today caulkin did it pretty fast i might say too lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712695
jfizz88 said:
yeah you can root the OTA update taht came out today caulkin did it pretty fast i might say too lol
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712695
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Ummm, I'm thinking that the OP meant 'hey if I installed the new update today on a stock EVO can I root?' and the answer is NO.
I have a few questions
1. Is it best to wait for a ROM with the OTA built in? or do we flash a zip file not re-doing the ROM?
2. If we flash the zip instead of waiting for a ROM.....will these changes stay permanent? For example, if we flash a new ROM in the future, will it undo the OTA stuff?
Thank you
Just received my G2 from Tmobile yesterday, turned on the phone and there was a notifaction saying there is a new version that has Wifi calling and many more fixes. My question is that will I be albe to perm root my G2 now after I updated? Thank you
Yes you will be able to perm root w/o a problem. Go to the G2 android development sections and all your answers are already there
should i get the update from tmobile after getting root
i rooted first since it was easy and now i get a notification saying i got an update is it ok to update thanks in advance
You can root and go straight to a custom rom that takes those fixes and much much more. I recommend CM or Enom's for functionality or virtuous for aesthetics.
jonathann0222 said:
i rooted first since it was easy and now i get a notification saying i got an update is it ok to update thanks in advance
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do not update if you are rooted. it will break root
scoperyder said:
Just received my G2 from Tmobile yesterday, turned on the phone and there was a notifaction saying there is a new version that has Wifi calling and many more fixes. My question is that will I be albe to perm root my G2 now after I updated? Thank you
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I received a new G2 last week, applied the OTA update for wifi calling, and then successfully perma-rooted using the wiki. Took about an hour to go from stock to CM 6.1.1 and overclocked to 1.51Ghz.
mdayjr said:
do not update if you are rooted. it will break root
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But assuming that's the original T-Mo OTA (and I've seen nothing to suggest there's a new one) then it's safe to install the OTA and simply re-root.
You are correct, of course, that folks should stay clear of future OTAs if they are rooted though, till they've been checked by the devs - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875099
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But assuming that's the original T-Mo OTA (and I've seen nothing to suggest there's a new one) then it's safe to install the OTA and simply re-root.
You are correct, of course, that folks should stay clear of future OTAs if they are rooted though, till they've been checked by the devs - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875099
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Yeah, I think it just threw some people off with the idea of an ota on a new device. It's still the same ole 1st ota for the G2 unfortunately. Nothing to rip out or borrow...
weird that it didn't come with the ota already on the device but since android, ota's haven't been flashed on the device. nevermind, I thinking of the old wm devices... I'm a bit tired.
If and when the Gingerbread update gets pushed out, how will us custom ROMmers be notified? Will we receive notifications asking us to download the update and then have to deny it? Will we have to unroot then upgrade? I wasn't around for the 2.2 update so I am a little curious as to how this all works on the Evo. Feel like such a noob right now but I really don't feel liking bricking my Evo due to an act of stupidity.
Don't have to unroot, it should show there is an update, update and it will take off root and go to stock 2.3, anyone correct me if I'm wrong.
You aren't going to need to do anything, other than NOT take the OTA. The only thing you will need to do is wait from 2-10 hours after the update is out in the wild for the devs to get their hands on it and give us a fully rooted build to flash. It does not take long around here. There is absolutely no need to unroot and take the OTA. Who knows, if you did that you may not even be able to root again. So basically all you're going to need to do for the update is wait for the devs, and then flash a rom as usual. Maybe some new radios or something too, who knows.
I'm more concerned about when they will push the damn update. *Supposedly* it's Q2, but I'd bet if that's true, it will be late Q2.
r916 said:
Don't have to unroot, it should show there is an update, update and it will take off root and go to stock 2.3, anyone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Sure, lots of people say "wait for a rooted version of the update," but all I want to know is, is it POSSIBLE to safely upgrade even if you are rooted? Would flashing the stock update remove ClockWork recovery?
yes i was rooted before 2.2 and i was having a crazy day, long story short i accepted the OTA not paying attention and it got me a weird reboot then i was unrooted and on 2.2 i had to wait for a root method for it. but i heard of some people having their phone glitch in crazy ways, also that first OTA sprint rolled out had a bug that was bricking some phones
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If and when the Gingerbread update gets pushed out, how will us custom ROMmers be notified? Will we receive notifications asking us to download the update and then have to deny it? Will we have to unroot then upgrade? I wasn't around for the 2.2 update so I am a little curious as to how this all works on the Evo. Feel like such a noob right now but I really don't feel liking bricking my Evo due to an act of stupidity.
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Developers will simply make new roms, and then you can flash the "update" of that rom. it'd be the same way of flashing CM7 nightlies.
Or just make sure you are s-off, take the update, install it. Then install SU from recovery and you are good to go. Thats the whole point of s-off (other than flashing PRI, NV, and Radios of course)
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If you rooted with Unrevoked and have Unrevoked Forever, then theoretically you should be able to flash the update and still be s-off to flash a rooted rom over the update. You'd have to push the custom recovery back onto the phone, though. However, I wouldn't be the guinea pig for the theory myself. I'd keep 2.2 until a rooted 2.3 rom is available and then flash that. No one knows what will happen if you flash the OTA update as no one has is or knows what's inside of it.
Once it starts being pushed out, it will just be a matter of time before some posts a thread either:
a) crying because the update broke their root.
b) gloating because the update did NOT break their root.
Basically, don't accept it. Play it safe and wait. We've been on 2.2 for well over half a year, so 1 more day isn't going to kill anyone.
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To make it simple, the result of accepting the OTA would either:
A- luckily do nothing
B- "Break" your phone and not be able to re-root
r916 said:
Don't have to unroot, it should show there is an update, update and it will take off root and go to stock 2.3, anyone correct me if I'm wrong.
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You are correct!
Theoretical question... If you're on a custom non-stock ROM (Myn or CM or whatever) and you accept the OTA, what would happen to the ROM? I don't think it would revert you back to the stock ROM because that ROM isn't on your phone anymore. I can't imagine CM would continue to work since it's not Sense. Would a Sense-based ROM (assuming you reinstalled all the Sprint bloatware) continue working with all the customizations even though you don't have root any more? Or does the OTA rewrite the entire ROM? Or would you just screw up your phone unpredictably?
I'm certainly not going to try this myself, but I'm curious as to what would happen.
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Theoretical question... If you're on a custom non-stock ROM (Myn or CM or whatever) and you accept the OTA, what would happen to the ROM? I don't think it would revert you back to the stock ROM because that ROM isn't on your phone anymore. I can't imagine CM would continue to work since it's not Sense. Would a Sense-based ROM (assuming you reinstalled all the Sprint bloatware) continue working with all the customizations even though you don't have root any more? Or does the OTA rewrite the entire ROM? Or would you just screw up your phone unpredictably?
I'm certainly not going to try this myself, but I'm curious as to what would happen.
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The OTA update would include the new stock 2.3 rom in it. It would wipe whatever you have on your phone (regardless of whether it is Sense or not) and install the OEM Sprint 2.3-based rom that all will eventually be on all new Evos when HTC ships them out.
So I recently found out I'm unable to install OTA Android updates to my phone if it's rooted.
So what can I do once ICS is released for the GS2? Will there be a download online that I can just flash with ODIN? Or are people going to be forced to unroot if they want the official ICS stock?
Most likely samfirmware aka sammobile will release an odin .tar, so you'll be good to go with odin.
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saj1jr said:
So I recently found out I'm unable to install OTA Android updates to my phone if it's rooted.
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That's not true. You will be unable to install OTA patch-style updates if you have modified one of the files being patched. If you rooted with Auto Root and that's all you did, you will be able to install OTA patch-style updates even without unrooting (though the update will disable root)
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So what can I do once ICS is released for the GS2? Will there be a download online that I can just flash with ODIN? Or are people going to be forced to unroot if they want the official ICS stock?
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I'm sure there will be an ODIN update within a few days or maybe even the same day. You can also flash EK02 and let the OTA update upgrade you (or if you've just rooted with Auto Root, just let the OTA update run), though you are probably better off waiting for an update from XDA, because the updates from here will attempt to keep your rooting and upgrade options as open as possible.
I'll also probably have an OTA compliance check for the next official update so you can tell immediately which files are not in compliance with what the update expects. I have one for EG30 to EK02 as part of the Auto Root package, so it would be similar in functionality.
First rule: Never take an OTA update if you care about rooting.
Any file made available from sprint or samsung will have a rooted/safe version posted in the dev section within a few hours of release.
I know samsung is pretty nice to us rooters but you never know when that might change.
lafester said:
First rule: Never take an OTA update if you care about rooting.
Any file made available from sprint or samsung will have a rooted/safe version posted in the dev section within a few hours of release.
I know samsung is pretty nice to us rooters but you never know when that might change.
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Is there a way to block OTAs? I'm running Calkulin's 2.8 if that matters.
Relax427 said:
Is there a way to block OTAs? I'm running Calkulin's 2.8 if that matters.
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There is a thread on blocking them in the wiki, provided here for your ease.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1388778
If you are worried about the OTA messing something up, it'll download and ask to install, but if you've made any changes to your ROM, including installing CWM, then it will fail the integrity check and won't install, so nothing will change.
I don't understand the OP's dilemma. Just wait a couple of hours after the OTA update and get a rooted version of the update... no problem!
It won't be out for a few more months anyways. It isn't even being tested yet. I doubt an initial build is even at Samsung. They are working on the the Galaxy S2 right now(the GSM overseas version). And, I am sure Sprint will sell some other phone with ICS stock before they update ours.
Software update installed itself. Is the March root impossible for me?
My Note 4 pestered me constantly to update the software, and I kept hitting the home button. Eventually I got tired of it and hit "Update Later" thinking it would stop nagging me every 15 minutes if I hit that button.
Well nope. Instead the phone shut off in the middle of downloading my apps and starting installing the software update.
This pissed me off so much.
Are my chances for root lower in March? Is it possible to downgrade the software?
Thanks!
What version did it install? And who said there would be root in March?
VinceOB said:
What version did it install? And who said there would be root in March?
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It installed 4.4.4, not sure what else it did. I saw a thread about the root supposedly coming in March.
Lol. Nobody said "root is coming in March."
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Lol. Nobody said "root is coming in March."
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/general/root-march-1-poll-t3006188
That was what I read. That's why when the software update installed without my approval I got annoyed. If a root does come, and it's not for my software version due to the OTA update, I'll be screwed out of root. Could I flash back to stock then?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-verizon/general/root-march-1-poll-t3006188
That was what I read. That's why when the software update installed without my approval I got annoyed. If a root does come, and it's not for my software version due to the OTA update, I'll be screwed out of root. Could I flash back to stock then?
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You read it wrong. It's a question not an answer. Do you THINK we will have root by March 1st? As for your question I wouldn't loose any sleep over taking the update. You can flash back to the previous NI1 with Odin if needed. If you are worried about any future OTAs being forced on your phone see this thread or this one and follow the directions to block the OTA.