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I'm loaning my Dell Venue Pro to my GF, and looking to get another phone. Unfortunately there are three requirements i have to full fill.
1) physical qwerty keyboard.
2) windows 7 mobile (and preferably HTC)
3) has to be able to use t-mobile frequencies 1700 & 2100.
What is the best phone on the market in that range (not really worried about price) and are there any new ones I should be waiting for?
thx
There's only two I'm aware of that meet just part of your requirements: T-Mobile HTC HD7 and Dell Venue Pro. No other WP7 phones have the radio freqs you need.
MartyLK said:
There's only two I'm aware of that meet just part of your requirements: T-Mobile HTC HD7 and Dell Venue Pro. No other WP7 phones have the radio freqs you need.
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Agreed, searched Google & can't find any other WP7 devices on any carriers that use the AWS frequencies that T-Mobile USA uses.
Maybe wait for Mango, or switch to Sprint where you would have a phone that meets all three of those requirements.
Thanks for the info guys, it's kind what i found while researching but i needed some confirmations.
I actually can't use either t-mobile or sprint because i'm in Canada and one of the new carriers is running the same frequencies as t-mobile. Which is why it's one of my requirements.
Thanks for the replies guys.
I'd just wait to loan it to her for a couple months and see what comes out.
I love my lg quantum, but you'll have To get the unlocked version LG C900 Optimus 7Q. It is the most solid of all of the wp7 and the only other wp7 device with a qwerty keyboard. The screen is a little small but it makes it look sharp. It is the most under rated wp7 phone out there. It is the only wp with a built in registry editor.
hardcoreplur said:
I love my lg quantum, but you'll have To get the unlocked version LG C900 Optimus 7Q. It is the most solid of all of the wp7 and the only other wp7 device with a qwerty keyboard. The screen is a little small but it makes it look sharp. It is the most under rated wp7 phone out there. It is the only wp with a built in registry editor.
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Is there a version of it that supports AWS 3G frequencies? This is what he's asking for as his service provider uses AWS (1700/2100MHz 3G), same as T-Mobile USA & a few other provider in the US & Canada do.
Only other hope is a Nokia WP7 device. Their recent devices have all been penta band so will work with AWS. Might not get a keyboard model in their first batch though.
Yes, 2100mhz.
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Yes, 2100mhz.
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It needs both 1700/2100. So it won't work. I agree about the other person with pentaband, but that won't be the case with WP7 Nokia devices. Qualcomm doesn't have pentaband. The Nokia pentaband is a Broadcomm chip. Don't know what is taking Qualcomm so long to do this...
drkfngthdragnlrd said:
It needs both 1700/2100. So it won't work. I agree about the other person with pentaband, but that won't be the case with WP7 Nokia devices. Qualcomm doesn't have pentaband. The Nokia pentaband is a Broadcomm chip. Don't know what is taking Qualcomm so long to do this...
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Oh great! Didn't know it was the Broadcomm chip that enabled pentaband. That means my plan to get an unlocked Nokia is out the window as well. Guess I have to stay with my current phone then. Thanks for the info.
dtboos said:
I'd just wait to loan it to her for a couple months and see what comes out.
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Are you referencing the fact that both Dell (suposedly this month) is releasing their firmware update and Microsoft supposedly releasing Mango at the end of August?
If Canadian carriers didn't screw us over for data i'd be able to buy other phones, but i'm SoL right now to stick with mobilicity
why not just get another dvp?
the new firmware will be on it.. it is unlocked... mango is almost out (and you could also put beta 2 on it if you like...)
it is also hella cheap.. $299
Zurvv said:
why not just get another dvp?
the new firmware will be on it.. it is unlocked... mango is almost out (and you could also put beta 2 on it if you like...)
it is also hella cheap.. $299
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Several reasons actually.
1) Dell refuses to ship to Canada or accept Canadian billing addresses. , the first time around i had to get a friend to buy it on his CC then ship it up to me. Because UPS has a brocrage fee it was another 100 bucks to cross the border.
2) Dell pissed me off. The first one I shattered on a plastic body kit for my car, and it took over a month to actually get one shipped up here. That was calling them every other day to keep the ball rolling. I'd still be waiting had I not done that.
3) I had to manually program all the Mobilicity settings into the DVP. I'm hoping the other carrier my gf is on won't require me to plug all the txt and mms settings into the phone, she's not the worlds most technical so i want something that just works for her.
Where do I get Beta 2?
drkfngthdragnlrd said:
It needs both 1700/2100. So it won't work. I agree about the other person with pentaband, but that won't be the case with WP7 Nokia devices. Qualcomm doesn't have pentaband. The Nokia pentaband is a Broadcomm chip. Don't know what is taking Qualcomm so long to do this...
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Wrong... Check your facts... Dvp only has 850/1900/2100. No 1700
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Wrong... Check your facts... Dvp only has 850/1900/2100. No 1700
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That would be the at&t version. T-Mobile uses 1700/2100 for 3G and was the first DVP sold back in November 2010.
slight22 said:
I'm loaning my Dell Venue Pro to my GF, and looking to get another phone. Unfortunately there are three requirements i have to full fill.
1) physical qwerty keyboard.
2) windows 7 mobile (and preferably HTC)
3) has to be able to use t-mobile frequencies 1700 & 2100.
What is the best phone on the market in that range (not really worried about price) and are there any new ones I should be waiting for?
thx
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No phones meet your criteria because "windows 7 mobile" is not a phone OS. If you want a mobile Windows 7 device, try an Acer Icona W500 or an Asus EEE pad.
tai4de2 said:
No phones meet your criteria because "windows 7 mobile" is not a phone OS. If you want a mobile Windows 7 device, try an Acer Icona W500 or an Asus EEE pad.
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Windows Mobile 7 is not a phone OS?? Ahh what are you smoking?? lol
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Windows Mobile 7 is not a phone OS?? Ahh what are you smoking?? lol
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He's just being semantic(al?). Its Windows PHONE 7. Windows MOBILE is long gone, and he snarkingly referred to devices running actual desktop Windows 7.
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Hi, I was wondering if you had to pick a Window 7 phone from AT&T's current selections what would you pick? I've had problems with my Focus in as far as signal quality, I keep losing calls. I haven't had problems with other phones and friends don't seem to have a problem here either. I've had several Focus replacements and now they have offered me a Surround instead. I've hear the battery in that is horrible and the sound also sucks. What current Window 7 phone would you choose based on Signal quality?
Bought a surround when it came out. Phone quality, battery life and sound quality is very very good. Upgraded to nodo, then mango then mango b2. Everything working perfectly.
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If a keyboard is something you might like... (or a really cheap unlocked phone) you might wanna take a look @ the Dell Venue Pro (DVP).
A firmware a week or so ago fixed the out standing problems with it.
Clearly it is a little fat because of the keyboard, but it has a really nice 4.1" AMOLED screen. Nice speakers too.
16gig unlocked model is only $299 (either off dell ebay or the dell site).
They have PCS (att) and AWS (t-mobile) versions.
It is a drop down keybaord (vs the side shooting one)
http://www.dell.com/us/p/mobile-ven...&baynote_bnrank=0&baynote_irrank=0&redirect=1
you can also get another $100 off it if you some else @ dell.
also, is the call dropping from the phone or AT&T... it isn't unheard of for AT&T to drop calls
AT&T is allowing me to exchange for another phone because of my problems with this one with constant dropped calls. They have offered me the Surround but I'm not sure if they will offer me a just released phone. I'll ask though. I was just wondering if the Surround was any good of if I should ask for another Windows 7 phone?
I'd pick the Omnia personally that screen is awesome unless they have already have the new HD7 with the SLCD screen.
Here is the thing, I am not switching to a friggen iPhone or putting out that line of how much better everything is over at the Andriod camp. I am not abondoning Micrsoft forever becuase blah blah. In fact, I will say this about Microsoft, nobody and I mean nobody comes close to how much money Microsoft has dropped on partners like myself. Apple, has millions sitting around... how much will they spend supporting partners? Google? That being said, I am definately not in the camp of hate Microsoft. I want to see Nokia succeed, I like the product.
What I do not like is the support on the MMS issue for MVNO's. I have been told by Nokia directly, I did not have the latest firmware... when I do, and that I should plug it into Zune. Then twitter support is talking about LTE problems with network setup. Forum Nokia moderators claim network setup is coming out... then another moderator jumps on and claims the LTE issue after several weeks of Nokia silence. What makes it worse is the 800 and 710 (non LTE phones) have the same issue.
Nobody promissed me MMS would work on another carrier like an MVNO, but the dishonesty is really getting to me. I could have picked up a Titan II and this would be a non issue. Nobody promissed me it would get 8 when I bought it and I could care less. The lack of honesty from Nokia, has a very patient customer looking for the exit. I may be selling my phone here real soon if something does not change. I am definately uncertain how I will look at Nokia in the future. Wife has a 710 (No network setup) and between the Radar and 710... at this moment I am leaning back to the Radar as a better phone. I have always been an HTC user and the Lumia 900 was the first Nokia I have had in a very long time. This should not be a WP7 bashing thread but I am sure that will rear its ugly head... just wanted to voice an honest issue with integrity.
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The majority of those who are b1tching against MS and Nokia, like me, are in fact people who would very, very like to see the blossoming of WP. Yet, we were left off the bus. Those who have left the bus for real, they never looked back and never complained (because they couldn't care less). I had sided with WP because it was different until the calendar hit 6/20/12. I had been all excited about the L900 which would shadow the hateful iPhone and fragmented Android yet I, and others, were given a middle finger by MS. Nokia's comfort stick just isn't enough although their hardwares are beautifully crafted and their free navigation is superb.
WP7.5, smoked ~100k (or 10k?) devices iPhone and Android combined, before running out of gas and stalled :crying:
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Here is the thing, I am not switching to a friggen iPhone or putting out that line of how much better everything is over at the Andriod camp. I am not abondoning Micrsoft forever becuase blah blah. In fact, I will say this about Microsoft, nobody and I mean nobody comes close to how much money Microsoft has dropped on partners like myself. Apple, has millions sitting around... how much will they spend supporting partners? Google? That being said, I am definately not in the camp of hate Microsoft. I want to see Nokia succeed, I like the product.
What I do not like is the support on the MMS issue for MVNO's. I have been told by Nokia directly, I did not have the latest firmware... when I do, and that I should plug it into Zune. Then twitter support is talking about LTE problems with network setup. Forum Nokia moderators claim network setup is coming out... then another moderator jumps on and claims the LTE issue after several weeks of Nokia silence. What makes it worse is the 800 and 710 (non LTE phones) have the same issue.
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Wrote this big long thing, but ultimately you are missing the point and going down that road of get left off a bus that has not even arrived. If you can't smoke an Andriod user or an iPhone... that would be like admitting you ride in a wheelchair and only say your name... "Timmy"
Those that are jumping ship because they feel slighted by WP8 vs. WP7., were never on board in the first place. It's called progress. And I look forward to getting my first WP8, after I grow tired of my L900. Which will be well after November 2012.
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jimski said:
Those that are jumping ship because they feel slighted by WP8 vs. WP7., were never on board in the first place. It's called progress. And I look forward to getting my first WP8, after I grow tired of my L900. Which will be well after November 2012.
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Ha ha exactly! I am just trying to get a Titan II... they have a network setup app... you can get it unlocked and damn that 16MP cam is calling me photosynth outta be fantastic with that. The Lumia 900 is a fantastic phone and my gripe is with the honesty of support.
My wife has went through two devices and she was finally fed up with the phone when it completly stopped cellular and data transmission today, she went a picked up an iphone today for $35 brand new from ATT. Nokia really needs to get this network issue under control, how can u expect to please customers when the phone doesnt work. Sometimes I miss my DVP.
I may be looking at Samsung or Lenovo next if Nokia doesnt get their act together seriously
937dytboi said:
My wife has went through two devices and she was finally fed up with the phone when it completly stopped cellular and data transmission today, she went a picked up an iphone today for $35 brand new from ATT. Nokia really needs to get this network issue under control, how can u expect to please customers when the phone doesnt work. Sometimes I miss my DVP.
I may be looking at Samsung or Lenovo next if Nokia doesnt get their act together seriously
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this is probably stupid, but, what network issue?
People need to chill a bit. Everyone getting all butthurt over not getting wp8 or because of some hardware issues like Nokia is the only company that has these problems.
Plenty of people with iPhones also have hardware issues, battery problems etc. Apple announces new software for the iPhone and intentionally leaves stuff out of the older phones to force people to upgrade to get the new features knowing damn well they will work on older phones. Siri is a perfect example, it will completely run on an iPhone 4 without issue, Apple left it out on purpose so all the fanboys will go and upgrade.
Took a trip to Atlanta and had some data issues here or there depending on where I was like any other wireless phone. I live in Phoenix and know just about all the dead spots and how the phone will behave, but for the most part.. in Phoenix, you turn on data you get data and the speed is almost always decent. The Lumia is bar far the best phone... as a phone I have ever had!
I want the network setup app.
I was also active on the Nokia support forum for the missing network setup app. This has nothing to do with wp8. Nokia refuses to release the Network Setup app in North America. On the support forum, the first said it was coming last month. Then soon. Then were quiet for a long time. Another moderator stepped in and said the issue was LTE which other people explained mvnos didn't use LTE and the network setup app worked before they pulled it.
Today, the moderator informed the thread that Nokia is not there to support, that's our job (on Nokia's support forum at least).
There has been talk about legal action against Nokia because they told people, myself included, that the ability to set MMS settings would come soon. Those people kept or bought the phone under false statements made by Nokia. However, Nokia was very quick to censor those posts.
I do think we need to have everyone who wants the Network Setup app to flood Nokia on twitter demanding them release the app.
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Here is the thing, I am not switching to a friggen iPhone or putting out that line of how much better everything is over at the Andriod camp. I am not abondoning Micrsoft forever becuase blah blah. In fact, I will say this about Microsoft, nobody and I mean nobody comes close to how much money Microsoft has dropped on partners like myself. Apple, has millions sitting around... how much will they spend supporting partners? Google? That being said, I am definately not in the camp of hate Microsoft. I want to see Nokia succeed, I like the product.
What I do not like is the support on the MMS issue for MVNO's. I have been told by Nokia directly, I did not have the latest firmware... when I do, and that I should plug it into Zune. Then twitter support is talking about LTE problems with network setup. Forum Nokia moderators claim network setup is coming out... then another moderator jumps on and claims the LTE issue after several weeks of Nokia silence. What makes it worse is the 800 and 710 (non LTE phones) have the same issue.
Nobody promissed me MMS would work on another carrier like an MVNO, but the dishonesty is really getting to me. I could have picked up a Titan II and this would be a non issue. Nobody promissed me it would get 8 when I bought it and I could care less. The lack of honesty from Nokia, has a very patient customer looking for the exit. I may be selling my phone here real soon if something does not change. I am definately uncertain how I will look at Nokia in the future. Wife has a 710 (No network setup) and between the Radar and 710... at this moment I am leaning back to the Radar as a better phone. I have always been an HTC user and the Lumia 900 was the first Nokia I have had in a very long time. This should not be a WP7 bashing thread but I am sure that will rear its ugly head... just wanted to voice an honest issue with integrity.
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this is probably stupid, but, what network issue?
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My wife had no cellular or data on her device, sim card was just fine. @ devices same problems. Im an early adopter and had the first batch of 900's and we had a serious data issue, my wife bought the device at least 2 months after the release and still had cellular and data issues. I still get time from time where mines loses data when it says I have 1 or 2 bars in 4G
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My wife had no cellular or data on her device, sim card was just fine. @ devices same problems. Im an early adopter and had the first batch of 900's and we had a serious data issue, my wife bought the device at least 2 months after the release and still had cellular and data issues. I still get time from time where mines loses data when it says I have 1 or 2 bars in 4G
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So the update that Nokia rolled out the first week after launch, didn't fix the data issue? Sorry to hear that.
I got mine 2 days after it was launched and still like it as much.
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I was also active on the Nokia support forum for the missing network setup app. This has nothing to do with wp8. Nokia refuses to release the Network Setup app in North America. On the support forum, the first said it was coming last month. Then soon. Then were quiet for a long time. Another moderator stepped in and said the issue was LTE which other people explained mvnos didn't use LTE and the network setup app worked before they pulled it.
Today, the moderator informed the thread that Nokia is not there to support, that's our job (on Nokia's support forum at least).
There has been talk about legal action against Nokia because they told people, myself included, that the ability to set MMS settings would come soon. Those people kept or bought the phone under false statements made by Nokia. However, Nokia was very quick to censor those posts.
I do think we need to have everyone who wants the Network Setup app to flood Nokia on twitter demanding them release the app.
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Hey I'm on that forum netconcepts ha ha. I am with ya buddy, and calling support every once in a while... I will keep buggin em till I sell the L900!... or if the miraculously fix it by giving us what we need I will be happy... very happy!!!! AND KEEP IT!
awagner said:
Ha ha exactly! I am just trying to get a Titan II... they have a network setup app... you can get it unlocked and damn that 16MP cam is calling me photosynth outta be fantastic with that. The Lumia 900 is a fantastic phone and my gripe is with the honesty of support.
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Goodluck with that, Connection set-up only has settings for at&t in its database, You will have to manually input APN settings for your 3G to work but wont be able to send or receive MMS, Only way around it is a Stock ROM for the Titan 2. :fingers-crossed:
Hmm... so you are saying even if the phone is unlocked.. with a t-mobile sim connection setup will not recognize t-mobile? I still have my account open with them. It recogized t-mobile in the past... or are you saying becuase it's a Titan 2 it won't?
I bought an unlocked Titan 2 for use in UK, Had to add my own APN to get 3G to work, No way I could get MMS to work as there are no options to add settings, Connection set-up had no information in its database for settings, You may well be lucky and find it has the US settings for networks over there but I doubt it, Check the Titan (2011) Forum and there are a couple of threads to check out there,
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So the update that Nokia rolled out the first week after launch, didn't fix the data issue? Sorry to hear that.
I got mine 2 days after it was launched and still like it as much.
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Not on my wifes device it was up to date.
I don't think what happend to you will necc... happen to me. I have used custom and stock roms for some time now and have yet to have an issue with connection setup finding TMOUS, but you could be right as I have never had a Titan II before.
Was just reading through the posts on the missing network setup and it makes me sick to see L800 and L710's are given the same answer as the L900 "Network Setup not being available in regions where the phone is branded" That is just plain wrong... that is why this thread has nothing to do with hardware. It's the support coming out of Nokia is just wrong on this issue... flat out!
Hello All: I am sorry for making new thread but I was unable to find what I am looking for.
Is there any way that I can hack my Lomia 900 so that ATT does not know what I am using smart phone. I love Windows Phone OS but I hate paying ATT $30 for a data plan that I don't use.
Nothing you said made any sense, you sound 12. The $30 data was part of your contract with at&t, have fun with it for the two years. Even if you could 'mask' your phones identity, at&t would still charge you.
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Only way that would happen is if you had a sim card that somehow was hacked to send a IMEI number that doesn't match your smartphone
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Only way that would happen is if you had a sim card that somehow was hacked to send a IMEI number that doesn't match your smartphone
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There are ways to change your phone's IMEI, not sure if its possible on WP7 though. It is also highly, HIGHLY, illegal.
If you didn't want to pay the $30 a month, buy the phone off-contract from like Amazon, Best Buy, or even AT&T and then get a pre-paid plan.
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Hello All: I am sorry for making new thread but I was unable to find what I am looking for.
Is there any way that I can hack my Lomia 900 so that ATT does not know what I am using smart phone. I love Windows Phone OS but I hate paying ATT $30 for a data plan that I don't use.
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If you are not using data over the cellular network, can't you just cancel the 'data' portion of your plan with AT&T? Or does the 'plan' come with the type of phone you bought?
Even if you could 'mask' the phone so that AT&T thought you were using a feature phone instead of a smart phone, you would still be charged the $30/mo, cuz that's what's attached to your account. It isn't the phone that ttells the network what to charge, it's what the account says the services attached to it are.
One legit way to play the game would be to turn in your AT&T Lumia and tell them you want to downgrade to a feature phone. Once that is complete and you have your replacement phone (make sure it has a micro-SIM card), buy an AT&T Lumia off eBay, then install the SIM into the bought phone. It should work just fine, except that because the SIM has been registered to a no-data account, you won't be able to get any data services.
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One legit way to play the game would be to turn in your AT&T Lumia and tell them you want to downgrade to a feature phone. Once that is complete and you have your replacement phone (make sure it has a micro-SIM card), buy an AT&T Lumia off eBay, then install the SIM into the bought phone. It should work just fine, except that because the SIM has been registered to a no-data account, you won't be able to get any data services.
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Actually that won't work, the phone registers on the network everytime it is used. So within a couple of days AT&T will know it is one of their smartphones and tag on a Smartphone data plan.
About the only way around paying for Smartphone data but still use one is to get an unbranded phone that is not recognized by the system. It will show up in the system as "Unknown Device"
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If you are not using data over the cellular network, can't you just cancel the 'data' portion of your plan with AT&T? Or does the 'plan' come with the type of phone you bought?
Even if you could 'mask' the phone so that AT&T thought you were using a feature phone instead of a smart phone, you would still be charged the $30/mo, cuz that's what's attached to your account. It isn't the phone that ttells the network what to charge, it's what the account says the services attached to it are.
One legit way to play the game would be to turn in your AT&T Lumia and tell them you want to downgrade to a feature phone. Once that is complete and you have your replacement phone (make sure it has a micro-SIM card), buy an AT&T Lumia off eBay, then install the SIM into the bought phone. It should work just fine, except that because the SIM has been registered to a no-data account, you won't be able to get any data services.
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Actually that won't work at all since AT&T actively polices their network and will detect smartphone IMEI regardless of what IMEI was associated with that SIM previously. The only "legal" way to have a branded smartphone without data plan on AT&T is to have a pre-paid account. AT&T does not require smartphone data plans for PAYGo customers.
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Hello All: I am sorry for making new thread but I was unable to find what I am looking for.
Is there any way that I can hack my Lomia 900 so that ATT does not know what I am using smart phone. I love Windows Phone OS but I hate paying ATT $30 for a data plan that I don't use.
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at&t are not idiots. They know what they sold you. Changing the IMEI might work but it's not guaranteed. And I believe changing the IMEI is against the law. I doubt the forum owners will let anyone openly discuss that.
Why don't you get the $20 300mb plan if you don't use data? That is where I would start. In the future find out which smartphones are not detected by at&t and purchase one of them at full price if you want to avoid data charges or want to use the $10 unlimited plan. There are plenty of threads about that.
paid 399 for a new lumia 900 at at&t and threw it on net 10 50 unlimited everything plan. Nokia network setup app from marketplace to set apns and it's great. Getting 3-7 megs. for everyday phone usability and efficiency winmo is far superior than android. I did have to get a nexus 7 to retain android tho..
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paid 399 for a new lumia 900 at at&t and threw it on net 10 50 unlimited everything plan. Nokia network setup app from marketplace to set apns and it's great. Getting 3-7 megs. for everyday phone usability and efficiency winmo is far superior than android. I did have to get a nexus 7 to retain android tho..
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How did you get the Network Setup app to work? Mine just says "please wait while we find your network settings" but never finds anything.
halfevildruid said:
paid 399 for a new lumia 900 at at&t and threw it on net 10 50 unlimited everything plan. Nokia network setup app from marketplace to set apns and it's great. Getting 3-7 megs. for everyday phone usability and efficiency winmo is far superior than android. I did have to get a nexus 7 to retain android tho..
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So the L900 does work on other networks (that AT&T allows). Thanks for that.
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So the L900 does work on other networks (that AT&T allows). Thanks for that.
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That is because NET10 is a MVNO and uses AT&T network. So techinically your phone is still on AT&T network (but LTE probably won't work) but billed to a different provider. There are also couple other MVNOs use the same AT&T network. Lumia 900 from AT&T can work on all of them with the need to unlock.
You have to pay $30.00 a month like the rest of us, because the At&t system will detect, via your imei, that your using a smartphone device.
I believe it is possible to buy a Galaxy Nexus GSM version from Google and add it to an already active $15 feature phone data plan, and continue to pay for the feature phone service, even after placing the sim into your unlocked Galaxy Nexus. That is because at the time I purchased my nexus, it's imei was not registered as a smartphone device within AT&T's database, although it may have been updated since the last time I checked.
But in the end do you think anyone likes to pay for the data package?.... Of course not, so why would an exception be made for your situation? The argument will always win with a simple "don't use a smartphone then" and there's really nothing you can say to that.
FWIW, that's just my 2 cents. I hope I didn't offend anyone with my opinions.
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Well said, that type of "trick" is what forces the carrier to lock boot loaders throttle data and stuff like that because some abused the system.
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You CAN use a Smartphone on AT&T without paying the $30 fee; I've been doing it for years. It just cant be a model that AT&T sells and registers in their system. If there's a particular model you like on T-Mo or any other GSM carrier(Make sure it has AT&T Freq.) that AT&T does not use, their system may recognize the brand and model #, but it won't populate the automatic Data Plan like all AT&T Smart phones do.
Case in point, I now use a Nokia N8(Great phone for me). AT&T does not know what an N8 is(The best camera on any phone to date) and therefore can't charge me a data plan automatically. Since most of the Factory Direct Unbranded Nokia smarthones have their own GPS antenna, I can have all the maps, turn by turn directions, and POI's I need for free because it hits the GPS satellite directly, if it cant use the Cell sites. The trick is to make sure your DATA IS TURNED OFF on your phone. On my N8 you can set it to stay off in the settings menu. One slip up, and they'll charge you out the ying yang. However, I have always been able to call in and have it reversed. You can have them block ALL data, but then MMS won't work.
Now if your a Data kind of user, put up the $30 and use it. I myself, being an "Old School" Cellular guy in the Industry 19yrs, cant fathom paying for it when I don't need it. The WiFi on my N8 is really strong and there are plenty of places with free WiFi. In between them, I could care less; my GPS still works and I can wait. If you need to get your email right away, or know what Paris Hilton said today, pay the $30.
I work for AT&T, just so you guys know.
It doesnt matter where the phone came from. Let me give you an example of how it goes down. If you upgrade and get a Nokia Lumia 900, we'll go into the Equipment section of your account and change the SIM card number from your old to your new (basic phones and smartphones have two different types of SIM cards). When we do that, right next to the box to enter a new SIM card number is the box to enter a new IMEI number, to tell what kind of phone is on your account. When we do that and the phone is a smartphone, the next screen to pop up in our system is the Features screen and we can't bypass that screen without adding some sort of data package. The only way you can get around that is by simply NOT changing the IMEI in the account. If you bought that Lumia 900 at the discounted price, there's nothing you can do, really. You have to get a data plan.
The only way to get around the system is to get a smartphone (ANY smartphone) and ask your AT&T rep to just give you a new SIM card for it, but NOT to change the IMEI in your account from a basic phone. This way, the network will still find your phone, but the system wont recognize that you have a smartphone. Now you have a smartphone on your account without a data plan.
Another thing to consider is that AT&T offers a $50/month GoPhone plan with unlimited EVERYTHING and you can text other countries. Do the same process as above with that GoPhone plan and you'll save a **** ton of money in the long run. Hope this helps.
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Another thing to consider is that AT&T offers a $50/month GoPhone plan with unlimited EVERYTHING and you can text other countries. Do the same process as above with that GoPhone plan and you'll save a **** ton of money in the long run. Hope this helps.
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If you work for AT&T you should know that the GoPhone servive doesn't offer a data plan for smartphones such as the Lumia 900...
However, from what it sounds like this guy is trying to do what I have done. I have a GoPhone account and I am using a Lumia 900 on it and I didn't have to pay for any sort of data plan. I tried to, but I got a call later that day explaining that they couldn't process it so they just credited the money I paid for data to my account.
If you're stuck in contract, can't you just get a POS phone and switch SIM cards? You say that AT&T uses special SIM cards for smart phones, but they look the same to me, other than the fact that the plastic portion of the sim card has been basically cut in half to create something called "Micro Sims" --- Well, as it turns out, with a pair of scissors and a steady hand, anyone can turn their basic sim card into a micro sim card that will work inside the Lumia 900. The plastic portion of the sim is perfectly safe to cut all you want, just use the sim that came with the lumia 900 as a template... It's really easy, I did it with my T-Mobile SIM card after I unlocked my Lumia 900.
Even buying a basic phone with no data services, when you pop that sim card into a smartphone it automatically adds the cheapest data plan to that number.
I got around this a few years ago.
Using a basic phone call and say you want to have data services blocked. Back then it was free but now I think they want to add parental controls and charge you an extra 5 bucks a month. But call and have data services blocked on that number then when all goes through put your sim into the smartphone.
It worked for me. Normally when you do that you get a text from AT&T telling you that they upgraded your data plan blah blah. If you don't get the text I'd assume all is well.
jimski said:
So the L900 does work on other networks (that AT&T allows). Thanks for that.
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what is your apn settings I got an ATT lumia 900 and cant figure out the right apn settings
Is there any way to change the carrier branding in WP 7 on the lumia 900. I understand you can do it for other devices like LG so I was wondering if I could do it for the 900? I want it to point to Tmobile instead of ATT
Not too sure if T-Mo had the 900 on their Network so not sure a T-Mo ROM exisits, What you could do is find out the code on the sim tray and find a relevant Stock ROM on Navifirm and flash using Nokia Care suite, This will NOT Unlock the phone however but just rebrand it with stock generic firmware.
Code on the sim tray should be similar to 059P6N9 etc, There are a few threads on XDA explaining in detail on how to flash a New ROM using Navifirm and Nokia Care suite, Good luck.
I got it sorted out enough to allow for my wife to use the store without issues. I am not sure you can use a stock rom on a ATT 900 due to inclusion of LTE radio...
Thanks for the help