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[Q] Did your Epic Touch come with a HDMI/USB adapter?

Watched a few video reviews of unboxing. Some are getting the usb to hdmi adapter and some aren't. I'm wondering if this is how wirefly and letstalk are selling theirs so much cheaper. Bad business, but maybe they are taking the adapter out before shipping, and then planning on reselling it as new?? If you have the phone please list where you got it and whether you got the adapter or not.
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I believe the "reviewer's devices" are the ones that come with the MHL adapter. I've read that consumer's version of the phone wont come with it. Luckily I bought mine ages ago when I had the Evo 3D.

I doubt any retailer is removing the MHL adapter. (unless you ordered your phone from Gamestop, that is).
The more likely explanation is that reviewers were also sent MHL adapters so that they could give more complete reviews. It's just a sign of the times that retail devices lack connectivity components. At least phones still come with AC adapters and USB cords (knock on wood).

I just find it strange that the box even has a compartment for it, but its empty with some of the reviews.
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Looks like its not included. None of the ones in my best buy have an adapter

you can get an MHL adapter at Monoprice for like 14 dollars (i think 16 shipped). Mine is on it's way.

wingzfan said:
Looks like its not included. None of the ones in my best buy have an adapter
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Thanks for the info, but, that sucks! Sure had my hopes up...
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chrisnosleep said:
I just find it strange that the box even has a compartment for it, but its empty with some of the reviews.
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The empty space in the box is for the battery.

thoughts on HDMI/MHL

Engadged says the galaxy nexus has the same chip for MHL/HDMI as the galaxy s 2 and infuse 4g. Strange most people don't report it. Also being a google device I thought that everything on the phone would have its API for developers but I found nothing on android 4.0 reference about video output or multiple screen.
Older nexus were well documented in functionality or not?
I'm thinking if it could become a portable media center

https://twitter.com/#!/romainguy/status/127449572845957120

What is the XDA recommended MHL adapter? I'm assuming they are not going to add this into the box with the Nexus.

Probably samsung mhl is best bet. I think it can be had for $29 on amazon. Monoprice sells one and most reports have been good. A lot of people dont like the t action going on with the usb cinnection on it though.
I voided my warranty and your nexus.

Does MHL support analog audio output? Or is it digital audio via HDMI only?
EDIT: should've done some reading, looks like MHL supports digital audio only. But the Galaxy S apparently does have an analog audio line out sent using the same wires as the USB connector when it detects it's connected to the Samsung dock. I wonder if the Galaxy Nexus can do the same...

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https://twitter.com/#!/romainguy/status/127449572845957120
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Impossible, mhl support hdmi OR usb, not together.
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hjuo said:
Impossible, mhl support hdmi OR usb, not together.
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ye my thoughts exactly, I was quite confused by that tweet.

pukemon said:
Probably samsung mhl is best bet. I think it can be had for $29 on amazon. Monoprice sells one and most reports have been good. A lot of people dont like the t action going on with the usb cinnection on it though.
I voided my warranty and your nexus.
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Yes, the one sold for the Galaxy S2 should work. If one wants a cheaper alternative they can check out this one from DealExtreme. The manufacturer claim they are using Samsung chips according to DX staff. One could throw in a USB OTG cable as well since I assume that won't be included in the box either.

I am thinking of getting the Micro USB to HDMI MHL Adapter from monoprice. According to the description you can charge the phone at the same time.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_id=8675&seq=1&format=2

ruthlesset said:
I am thinking of getting the Micro USB to HDMI MHL Adapter from monoprice. According to the description you can charge the phone at the same time.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_id=8675&seq=1&format=2
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Because you have to connect to the power adapter. On my sgs2 however it seems to consume more energy than supplied. I have the original samsung not that.

hjuo said:
Because you have to connect to the power adapter. On my sgs2 however it seems to consume more energy than supplied. I have the original samsung not that.
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Even if uses more energy than supplied, the loss will still be slower. As for the nexus, i am at least hoping it will break even since omap has a dedicated iva3 chip.
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Hdmi and charging
I have received it in the post this morning , thought it would be as simple as just plugging it in like it was on my sony arc. Nothing seems to be happening . Has anyone else got a mhl adaptor to work ?

I have got it to work. Had to plug the charger in too. Donut. Lol.
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cja1972 said:
I have got it to work. Had to plug the charger in too. Donut. Lol.
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nice!
which cable was it? any chance of pictures.
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cja1972 said:
I have got it to work. Had to plug the charger in too. Donut. Lol.
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So how does this work exactly? Sorry I've never seen the setup before. There is just one cable right? Is it split at the end to provide to outputs? One for the TV and one for power?

bourne-nolonger said:
So how does this work exactly? Sorry I've never seen the setup before. There is just one cable right? Is it split at the end to provide to outputs? One for the TV and one for power?
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The ones i've seen is a micro usb cable that goes to a small box where there is another micro usb plug(for non-mhl compatible displays, mhl compatible displays should apparently be able to work without the extra power) and a HDMI plug.
Here's an example of one: http://www.dealextreme.com/p/micro-...2-i9100-i997-htc-g14-z710e-p510e-black-104139

I got the SGS 2 MHL adapter and it didn't work at first. I rebooted the phone and then it worked.

I was going to order an adapter from amazon last night but rethinking it im going to wait until the end of the month and get the desk dock which will have mhl support built in and has an hdmi port on the side for connecting to a tv or monitor.
Still ended up getting an HDMI lead from amazon for 49p though lol .
Mark.

mskip said:
I was going to order an adapter from amazon last night but rethinking it im going to wait until the end of the month and get the desk dock which will have mhl support built in and has an hdmi port on the side for connecting to a tv or monitor.
Still ended up getting an HDMI lead from amazon for 49p though lol .
Mark.
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Is there a release date for the landscape dock, and is anywhere listed as selling it yet?

chandlerweb said:
Is there a release date for the landscape dock, and is anywhere listed as selling it yet?
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As far as I know places should start getting them in stock around the 30th but the only place I have seen the docks advertised is an online shop *HERE*.
Hopefully they will start hitting ebay soon as hate seeing my phone laying on the desk rather than standing proudly like my HD2 did
Mark.

cheap mhl - 3rd party thread

hi there ,
I want to use the MHL feature but 2 things stop me.
1) I don't want to spend that much on the original one (it's about USD $40)
2) I want to use it at the gym so I don't have a way to connect it to the wall outlet ...
I wanted to know if you know of any cheap MHL adapter that does the work? ( I prefer ebay...)
p.s
just found this one , so I'm assuming these will soon pop on ebay for a low price...
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/595949307/for_samsung_galaxy_s3_mhl_hdmi.html

Still haven't found any 3rd party cables and wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't one either, because I've seen plenty that claim to be only S3 compatible and I got caught out with one the other week.

Michael_P said:
Still haven't found any 3rd party cables and wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't one either, because I've seen plenty that claim to be only S3 compatible and I got caught out with one the other week.
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this one claims it was tested to work with the SGS3 ,
that's why I want to buy it on ebay... so if it won't work you can at least get your money back and write a bad feedback...

I'm more interested in the adapter that lets you use the old MHL cable because I have 3 of them and sure someone will soon be making a £2 knock-off I can buy a few of.

Michael_P said:
I'm more interested in the adapter that lets you use the old MHL cable because I have 3 of them and sure someone will soon be making a £2 knock-off I can buy a few of.
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please update this thread once you'll find something interesting.

I just checked EBay and there's still no 3rd-party MHL to HDMI adapter available for the S3, almost 2 months later, so we still have only two options:
Buy the official $40 Samsung MHL to HDMI adapter
Buy an old S2 MHL adapter ($15) AND the adapter FOR the adapter ($10) == $25.
Monoprice.com has said they're coming out with their own S3 MHL cable, but that was a few weeks ago.

zmore said:
I just checked EBay and there's still no 3rd-party MHL to HDMI adapter available for the S3, almost 2 months later, so we still have only two options:
Buy the official $40 Samsung MHL to HDMI adapter
Buy an old S2 MHL adapter ($15) AND the adapter FOR the adapter ($10) == $25.
Monoprice.com has said they're coming out with their own S3 MHL cable, but that was a few weeks ago.
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as I understand it , the market is gonna start flooding with those adapters in the end of this month , I am waiting another 2 weeks.

rotman253 said:
as I understand it , the market is gonna start flooding with those adapters in the end of this month , I am waiting another 2 weeks.
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Hope so.
And I just saw this mhl to hmdi cable by MiniSuit for $25, but for pre-order only. Same one appears to be selling on ebay for $30. no cheap enough for me.

zmore said:
I just checked EBay and there's still no 3rd-party MHL to HDMI adapter available for the S3, almost 2 months later, so we still have only two options:
Buy the official $40 Samsung MHL to HDMI adapter
Buy an old S2 MHL adapter ($15) AND the adapter FOR the adapter ($10) == $25.
Monoprice.com has said they're coming out with their own S3 MHL cable, but that was a few weeks ago.
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Monoprice is going to do their own S3 MHL... hell yeah I'm waiting for them then.

according to this sell I realize in the end of the month the Chinese release their MHL to the market. that's when the price should start going down

Here's a 3rd party one.
Now this listing specifically says For Galaxy S3 11 pin, Still USD $30 though. (AUD $28,77)
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Sams...743792?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item19d3643b70
Havent ordered one yet but thinking about it.
(A few other ebayers have it too now)

=Oberon= said:
Here's a 3rd party one.
Now this listing specifically says For Galaxy S3 11 pin, Still USD $30 though. (AUD $28,77)
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Sams...743792?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item19d3643b70
Havent ordered one yet but thinking about it.
(A few other ebayers have it too now)
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still not cheap.
We'll have to wait till the market is flooded and then prices will get lower..

what do you people say about this cable?
will it support the SGS3 ?
http://www.aliexpress.com/product-f...r-Samsung-Galaxy-S3-i9300-S2-wholesalers.html

rotman253 said:
what do you people say about this cable?
will it support the SGS3 ?
http://www.aliexpress.com/product-f...r-Samsung-Galaxy-S3-i9300-S2-wholesalers.html
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No. Too cheap, so it's mislabeled.
The cheapest you can find a non-samsung mhl to hdmi cable for the S3 is about $25 on ebay and amazon. cheaper than $40 for samsung's.
I'm probably going to order this one when it's in stock @ amazon next week (same version on ebay):

zmore said:
No. Too cheap, so it's mislabeled.
The cheapest you can find a non-samsung mhl to hdmi cable for the S3 is about $25 on ebay and amazon. cheaper than $40 for samsung's.
I'm probably going to order this one when it's in stock @ amazon next week (same version on ebay):
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yeah , I just found the same adapter (same case also) on ebay and over there they state that this won't work with the SGS3.
anyway , please check in here after you'll buy the adapter and write how is it.
Thanks

rotman253 said:
yeah , I just found the same adapter (same case also) on ebay and over there they state that this won't work with the SGS3.
anyway , please check in here after you'll buy the adapter and write how is it.
Thanks
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Which won't work with the S3? The one pictured, or the one you linked to?
The one I linked to is too expensive NOT to work...

zmore said:
Which won't work with the S3? The one pictured, or the one you linked to?
The one I linked to is too expensive NOT to work...
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oh... no , the one I linked to...:cyclops:

zmore said:
I just checked EBay and there's still no 3rd-party MHL to HDMI adapter available for the S3, almost 2 months later, so we still have only two options:
Buy the official $40 Samsung MHL to HDMI adapter
Buy an old S2 MHL adapter ($15) AND the adapter FOR the adapter ($10) == $25.
Monoprice.com has said they're coming out with their own S3 MHL cable, but that was a few weeks ago.
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Is there any advantage to buying the official adapter? The way I see it if we go with the second option we can still use the mhl adapter on other phones that have the standard layout, but we couldn't with the official cable.
Do we lose any functionality going with the second choice?
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Nelsocracy said:
Is there any advantage to buying the official adapter? The way I see it if we go with the second option we can still use the mhl adapter on other phones that have the standard layout, but we couldn't with the official cable.
Do we lose any functionality going with the second choice?
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Under my point of view if you are not going to use the MHL 5 pins cable (the old one) for S2 or Note, I would get the new one suitable only for S3 with 11 pins. I expect Samsung to solve the problem with MHL+USB OTG one day, and if it does, I think it would not be possible using the old MHL cable, but I must say this is just a possibility and NOT sure, maybe they will be selling a new MHL cable (if it happens I would cry and I will not buy any other Samsung product...)

Nelsocracy said:
Is there any advantage to buying the official adapter? The way I see it if we go with the second option we can still use the mhl adapter on other phones that have the standard layout, but we couldn't with the official cable.
Do we lose any functionality going with the second choice?
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Well, going forward, I expect the newer 11-pin cable to be the new standard, at least on samsung phones, so if you have no old phones around (or friends wanting to use it), just get the new cable.
Also, by the time I can upgrade again (~January 1st, 2014), I expect wireless display mirroring will be the more popular option anyway, so either cable may be obsolete.

micro usb to hdmi-mhl help me buy one

Can you guys /gals recommend a good hmdi mhl adapter for the GS3.
i read it should carry sound..id this true?
what are some things i should look out for?
thanks.

Best option mate is the genuine samsung galaxy s3 hdmi. 99% others don't work. Trust me I made mistake and in the end I bought genuine one from Amazon for £26 well worth it

donovan2123 said:
Best option mate is the genuine samsung galaxy s3 hdmi. 99% others don't work without the 11 pin to 5 pin adapter. Trust me I made mistake and in the end I bought genuine one from Amazon for £26 well worth it
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Fixed that for you. most peole are buying ones made for the s2, which does not work without an adapter. there is only 1 or 2 aftermarket S3 ones at the time of this posting.

Did anyone try this one? I'm over an hour from Microcenter so I'm hoping a sucker.....uh, I mean fellow XDA user will give it a go
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0381574

Most of MHL adapter say they fit for Note/S2/S3 and this is not possible if it does not include an extra piece (5 to 11 pins adapter), so I would only buy a non official MHL adapter for S3 if it clearly says that it only allows the S3 or/and it says it has 11 pins...

WHat is the cheapest MHL adapter that will work with the S III? And I mean one that works correctly. The official Samsung one is so crazy expensive. I wonder why no other companies have come out with one yet? Haven't they figured out the new port config?

Most MHL cables are 5-pin so those are out of the question. The only MHL cable that is 11-pin is the official $40 samsung one.
What you can do is get the $11 5-pin cable and hook it up to the $10 official samsung 5 to 11 pin converter. This way it will work the Galaxy S3 for only $21.

My local AT&T store carries the official Samsung S 3 mhl adapter but they are telling me that it doesn't do anything but play videos. The micro HDMI on my atrix 2 and my atrix HD would put whatever screen was on my phone on the TV without any translation. Can somebody who has the official adapter tell me if that's the case. If it is I'm not paying 40 bucks for it.
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jeffdaman said:
My local AT&T store carries the official Samsung S 3 mhl adapter but they are telling me that it doesn't do anything but play videos. The micro HDMI on my atrix 2 and my atrix HD would put whatever screen was on my phone on the TV without any translation. Can somebody who has the official adapter tell me if that's the case. If it is I'm not paying 40 bucks for it.
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It mirrors everything onto Tv screen like every other MHL cable, and official network stores everywhere are all the same because most know F all about how the phones work so always check the net after they give you the "Facts"

Geordie Lad said:
It mirrors everything onto Tv screen like every other MHL cable, and official network stores everywhere are all the same because most know F all about how the phones work so always check the net after they give you the "Facts"
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He went on to say that mhl cable for the Samsung Infuse only worked for movies specifically. Is that much true or was he full of sh##? He didn't cross me as being very educated about android.

You can check videos on youtube by yourself to see how the MHL adapter mirrors your phone's screen in your HDTV. Most people selling tech-stuff know very few about what they 're actually selling, even support services provided by most companies like Samsung are quite useless since they do not know enough their products...

If you going to buy one get an original. I bought mine on amazon and it works perfectly.
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harryville said:
If you going to buy one get an original. I bought mine on amazon and it works perfectly.
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Hi,
How's the video quality on your TV? Is it like the same when you connect a laptop?
What was the price for it?

Use it regularly with app filmon and the quality of really good, sometimes better than local television.
I paid £21 for mine on Amazon just before summer.
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$22 MHL Cable (11 pin) Good seller feedback

Feel free to report and delete this if it has been posted already
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/New-MHL-Mirc...070580?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item25750548f4
Lots of high feedback on the seller
100% brand new and high quality.
Supports all video resolutions and audio formats including HDTV video and digital audio
Connect a Smartphone, Tablet or Other MHL Enabled Device to an HDMI TV
Designed For Use With Mobile Devices Featuring MHL Technology. Make sure your phone is compatible before purchase.
Allows for a Micro USB Cable (5 Pin) to be connected to the adapter to allow the phone to charge
MHL Adapter allows you to connect a Micro USB (11 Pin) port to a HDMI equipped device
This is Micro USB 11pin connector for new Samsung s3 i9300, cannot use for standard miro USB MHL mobile phone like i9100 i9220.
Compatible with: Samsung Galaxy S3 S III i9300(TV and phone is not included)
Size: as the photo show
Color: Black
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Megusta. Im jumping the bridge on this one. Ill let yall know.
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No problem. Let us know how it works!

Same item is available on US Ebay site for about $US 24. I think I'm going to spring for one, too. Anybody who gets one, please report back on how it works!

Damn my sceptical nature.
I'm looking at this and thinking the price is just too perfect, Not too hot, Not too cold just right in the Goldilocks zone and can't help but thinking someone's still trying to scam me.
But I'm gonna beat my head against the wall a few times and force myself to give this one a shot.

(TV and phone is not included)
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Damn, that's a deal breaker right there.
Seriously though, does it charge the phone too? Never used one before..

[email protected] said:
Damn, that's a deal breaker right there.
Seriously though, does it charge the phone too? Never used one before..
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Good question. I do see the power cable has to be plugged into this but I've wondered that myself.
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Yes it charges the phone, but that is neccesary otherwise your phone will be dead very soon.
Screen on all the time kills your battery very quick
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Jeurum_92 said:
Yes it charges the phone, but that is neccesary otherwise your phone will be dead very soon.
Screen on all the time kills your battery very quick
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wondering if one could turn the phone display off while using this... but playback and other functions would still work the battery down to a nub very quickly of course

Not possible, the MHL adapter projects what's on your s3's screen, so your tv shows some nice black when you turn off the screen
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Thanks for sharing! Been waiting such a long time for a cheap alternative. This still isn't as cheap as the generic 5pin MHL though...
Looking forward to an update before I jump on the wagon.

But a 5 pin won't work with GS3 unless you purchase another adapter.
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But a 5 pin won't work with GS3 unless you purchase another adapter.
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Yeah, I knew that, I comparing the price to the generic 5pin MHL adaptor which we could use if samsung didn't decide to change to 11pin.
I guess it will never be as cheap since its a niche product for the S3.

This might sound silly but my TV doesn't have a HDMI port (it's pretty old but still slim)
Is there any other type of converters like scart to micro usb (sounds unlikely)
I

htcsnap93 said:
Megusta. Im jumping the bridge on this one. Ill let yall know.
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Same here. After doing some research it looks like an unbranded Samsung MHL adapter for the S3. The picture isn't clear enough to get the model number for comparison, but I'm pretty sure after looking at the FCC markings and other things that don't line up with the new S2 MHL adapter. :good:
Ordered it a few mins ago

This one's $20 shipped.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-MHL-T...063258?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3f1c05845a
Looking forward to hearing feedback from someone who gets one of these generic adapters.

I spoke with Monoprice's customer service last week and they said they plan on having their own compatible S3 MHL cable before October. I'll probably wait until then as I know theirs will work and should be fairly cheap.

Down to $22 eh? Last I checked the knock-offs were $30, and the samsung official was $40 (now $35).
I'm going to get one of these 11pin mhl-hdmi cables when they finally drop down to $10 like the S2's is, mainly because the 5-to-11 adapter I'm using on my 5pin S2 cable is TOO WIDE for my incipio silicrylic case (and most others) so I have to bend the silicone down. So, fair warning about the adapter for the adapter

Has anybody received one of these from eBay yet? If so, how well does it work?

I've seen a few too many discussions regarding plugging in subpar adapters into these phones that have caused problems. So I may be a bit paranoid but I think I'll stick with official Samsung adapters. Good price though if it works.
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