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Apple does push the edge!

http://9to5mac.com/2011/10/03/co-founder-of-siri-assistant-is-a-world-changing-event-interview/

That is a lot of bluster. We'll see if it lives up to that hype.

It's SKYNET!!! Kill it with fire before it takes over!!!
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Pffft. It's all talk until I see a working copy released which doesn't suck.
... and when it happens, I will name mine "Jane."

Well sure..we'll see. I remember reading about siri when they bought it and was pretty intrigued about the prospects for smartphone use.
It wouldn't surprise me if we see it on the I5.... And yeah it would be another apple game changer... 1 that would have the rest of the industry take a long time to catch up on given that apple owns technology.
All I know is they better have a keyboard on board!

Apple will change the way humans interact with electronic devices
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lol, hyperbole

rockky said:
Well sure..we'll see. I remember reading about siri when they bought it and was pretty intrigued about the prospects for smartphone use.
It wouldn't surprise me if we see it on the I5.... And yeah it would be another apple game changer... 1 that would have the rest of the industry take a long time to catch up on given that apple owns technology.
All I know is they better have a keyboard on board!
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I cant do anything with a iphone its to small much less use the keyboard

What's so new about this Android has it since like forever? May be for dumb ppl who still think Iphone4 has 4G?

Usually on HTC there's a 30% chance you'll get rational exchanges when Apple's in the mix looks like this one hits that mark lol. If Siri (ever researched it?) were hotly rumored to be on the Nexus Prime, it'd be the dominant buzz topic on HTC, guarantee it...he'll were hot and bothered over device credit transactions...
Ok.. back to the google+ android circles on this one...there's at least an appreciation for the technology and it's smartphone implications.

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"This is real AI..."
Sorry, but no. The sheer amount of stored data required to actually accomplish a true "AI" won't be fitting in a smartphone anytime soon, and until someone has an always-on, 10+mb downlink network as a normal mobile broadband connection, it certainly won't be cloud based either. This will be nothing more than very very good speach-initiated actions.
On a related note, don't be surprised if ICS also beefs up it's speech control. It's been a long time since pico tts was implemented, and now with the standard amount of storage space in smart phones they can afford to inject a bigger database.
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Using voice for a phone is a gimmick.. I've owned many smartphones and never felt the need for it.

Apple is going to add voice recognition and navigation, two things google perfected years ago, and the tech journalists are going to get all hot over Apple's innovation. The end.
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Apple is going to add voice recognition and navigation, two things google perfected years ago, and the tech journalists are going to get all hot over Apple's innovation. The end.
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The sad thing is I can totally see that being the case. /smh

Why is this even posted here? If I wanted to read iPhone threads, I'd go to an iPhone forum.
In before I get flamed. And yeah, "if you don't like the thread, don't open it" .... whatever.

Is this a joke? Siri? Voice recognition with included internet search compatibility? Wow!!! Amazing!!! Not. Apple will be able to spin it as a ground breaking development to the idiot masses although this technology already exists and all that's different is more integration with voice command. On top of that it's boring and not as useful as they like to make it look. If this is all Apple's got it's pathetic. I don't even feel like responding to Apples non sense any longer is warranted. Let them sue everyone on the planet, they know their days are numbered and see the writing on the wall way better than I can.
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Why is this even posted here? If I wanted to read iPhone threads, I'd go to an iPhone forum.
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Agreed, posting some Apple crap voice recognition search utility on an ET4G Android forum on XDA Developers must be a joke. I think it's a joke unless its another retarded fanboy that doesn't know any better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPPcTN5sdX4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Notice the date of the posted video was August 11, 2010
Apple its so cutting edge ::rolls eyes::
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kingsway8605 said:
Apple is going to add voice recognition and navigation, two things google perfected years ago, and the tech journalists are going to get all hot over Apple's innovation. The end.
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Agreed, and then Apple's going to sue everyone who has voice recognition claiming it belongs to them. I'm wondering, have they ever tried suing Applebee's? Isn't there an apple in their sign too?
Apple be gone!
And whoever posted about this post being here in our ET forum, I agree, can a moderator move this Crapple junk out for the trash truck to pick up? Surely there's a "lawsuits-r-us" or "lawsuits-r-apple" website somewhere that this can be rejected into.

Google's answer to Siri

http://androidandme.com/2011/12/new...named-majel-could-be-released-by-end-of-year/

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http://androidandme.com/2011/12/new...named-majel-could-be-released-by-end-of-year/
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Sounds great. Can't wait for this.
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Having fun with Voice Actions...can't wait for the next level of functionality
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http://gizmodo.com/5867816/alfred-the-pocket-concierge-so-good-google-had-to-have-it

Given Google's vast resources, this could blow away Siri.
Although I'll never understand the obsession with these type of applications.
They seem to be more of a novelty.

No, no, no.
Google's actual answer to Siri is:
"HAHAHAHAHAHA... You think that's actually useful?!?
Okay, well in that case, we've had that kind of thing for years.
Not that it matters..."
F%#$ marketing.

Yeah, people do look at you a little funny when you are talking to your phone....
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JohnCorleone said:
Yeah, people do look at you a little funny when you are talking to your phone....
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I just really don't find it practical at all.
Let's see... I could either...
A) hit search and type what I want real quick and hit enter
or
B) load up an app, talk to it, have it take a second to figure out what I'm saying, then it searches and, assuming it understood me correctly (and don't give me the BS that Siri always does I tried it and it doesn't), get what I could have spent half the time looking for handed to me....and look like a weirdo in public doing it.
Yeah, no thanks, I'll choose A.

I just don't understand the fascination with this recent crop of voice-recognition software. I get the "natural language interpretation" angle. That is exactly what needs to be enhanced...but...aside from that (and procession power, sampling ability and storage capacity) I have been doing command and action oriented voice recognition since, what, 1992? 1993? It was an addon pack to OS/2 v3.0 Warp. I think Dragon Naturally Speaking came out shortly thereafter....I could be wrong, It's been a while and I was a teenager back then.
Sure, the response is quicker...some times, we are network bound now....and it is a slight bit more accurate, they used to be trained to you....and thank GOD it doesn't require the training sessions it used to, though that reduces flexibility for accents and dialects....but...it's the same god-damned trick. Siri is no different, it's just a slightly (very slightly) more thoughtful implementation of the same 20+ year old technology except now we are server bound which, on Sprint, can be a horrifying experience at times.
I do think this is one of the many "next steps", but, it still hasn't gone gold yet. I'm a little surprised that Apple put out beta software. Especially given that it's been beta for 20 years now. There is no end game. It's infinitely incremental improvement....perhaps that is why. Though I think it is more telling that Apple felt they needed something ostensibly "this big" to compete that they were willing to put out beta software.
Interesting times....

I'm not gonna lie I love Siri for things like setting alarms, meetings, reminders, and calendar events. Stuff like that is helpful and quick but I don't need it to text for me or read me texts or search for me.

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but "Majel" could refer to Majel Barrett Roddenberry, wife of Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry. She was and still often is the voice of Starfleet's computers.

its funny we look schizo talking into our PHONES... I think its the note-passing tween girl 'social' networking market that keeps not talking on our phones alive... imagine if people were on an old corded phone talking to all their friends as much as people text now... I know I would throw that person out if my house... anyways... I like voice recognition for driving... and I talk texts all the time in my work van... dreaming of sideswiping the idiots texting while driving... seriously... doing makeup/shaving while driving is bad enough... but texting is just silly... youre not that important, get over yourself... I dont care who you are. Heres an idea... here in WA state, we have a distracted driving law... poorly enforced... it would be AWESOME if those who got caught texting while driving had the transcripts of the conversation read aloud in court... and hopefully published if funny enough.
grrrr... phones are for hacking not idle conversation!

I still don't understand why Siri is even this big of a discussion like Matty said, it'd be much faster to do it manually then to wait on a robot.
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Duke4eva said:
I still don't understand why Siri is even this big of a discussion like Matty said, it'd be much faster to do it manually then to wait on a robot.
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iphone hipsters dig it for some random reason

lajuan3 said:
iphone hipsters dig it for some random reason
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Someone should hack into CIQ severs and see how much Siri is used after the first week.
My guess? Rarely.
It's just a novelty.

JohnCorleone said:
Yeah, people do look at you a little funny when you are talking to your phone....
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Isn't that what phones are for?

12MaNy said:
Isn't that what phones are for?
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They are for talking into not talking to.....unless you are really lonely ...lol
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Ways for this to blow Siri out of the water:
Use Majel Roddenbury's voice from Star Trek licensed from her son
Integrate Siri-like voice commands to an API for IP-remote applications for Google TV and other Smart TVs
This would pretty much steal the thunder away from any Apple TV rumor

its gonna be tuff apple fanboys stick around no matter how much better google shows it is

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They are for talking into not talking to.....unless you are really lonely ...lol
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Good point... if we get this I might be less lonely and can get off my meds
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OTA update to circumvent Galaxy Nexus ban!

http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/07/03/samsung-and-google-to-release-ota-update-to-galaxy-nexus-to-avoid-injunction-ban/
Dumbing down search function to only include internet searches, no local (device) searches!!! weak sauce...

I only used this search once since december.

Maybe Google updated the nexii at the I/ O to pass it out to the devs is the same reason Apple doesn't want it on the nexus it will be in the community and out of their hands....idk my 2¢
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ICS already removes most of my favorite features of android. Long press for widgets, a simple settings button.
Didn't hear anyone ***** about that. Now that its something petty everyone is Mega butt hurt.
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I have spotlight search on my iPhone and have never once used it. I'm not saying no one uses this feature since I don't but life will move on for Android without it.

Maybe they just remove the feature from the phones in stores. After you buy it, you'll get an OTA and everything's back to normal. ;-)

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Maybe they just remove the feature from the phones in stores. After you buy it, you'll get an OTA and everything's back to normal. ;-)
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Yeah that would be complicated for Google.

Just a thought... so they're saying that root or not you're gonna get the downgrade (unless you're on a custom rom) but surely if you rename a couple of unimportant system files or say, flash a different radio the ota won't stick will it?
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rasinell said:
Just a thought... so they're saying that root or not you're gonna get the downgrade (unless you're on a custom rom) but surely if you rename a couple of unimportant system files or say, flash a different radio the ota won't stick will it?
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You may get the notification, just simply ignore it.........
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Never used that feature to be honest, so it's a price I'm personally willing to pay to prevent a ban. I'm sure some people use it frequently, but I'd think even they'd agree that it's better than getting the phone banned. Ensuring the continual growth of this phone's user base is only beneficial for current owners.

I hope it gets reversed. Universal search is something Android does so nicely. Being able to go in the settings and decide which apps can be included for example IMDB or foursquare so you can initiate search/check-in without first going into the app itself.
I really hope that pending patent for Google in regards to notification drawer eventually goes through. Before iOS implemented that feature I heard quite a fair share of complaints from friends with iphones primarily about how annoying a bunch of pop up notifications can be.
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Getting more and more reluctant towards Apple. I used to dislike that company due to their religious fanboys, but... After all those pseudo-patent actions... No comments.
I personally use the search-all feature a lot, both for quick contact access (have a couple hundrets of people in my People app) as well as for quick app launch (well, being an app junkie, swiping through all the launcher pages eats hell lotta time) and for web search as well.
As far as I remember, search-all feature was available in old Symbian phones as well, and some implementations were also available in WinMo. How could this be patented by the fruit-company? Getting more and more tired of not-so-brilliant judges granting dumb bans. Judges should cancel dumb patents instead!
(like rectangular shape patent!! how come one can patent a RECTANGULAR SHAPE?! Slide to unlock - ok, nice feature, but how come anyone could grant as generic patent as "unlocking by dragging one object along path to a specific position"?!)

I can't wait for the day Apple looses its cool with the worlds sheep population. And I hope some big company sues the absolute **** out of apple.
Karma is a *****
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Why are there 2 threads for the same topic?
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rayiskon said:
Why are there 2 threads for the same topic?
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Definitely not seeing the other thread. Its no big deal anyways.
Good to see Samsung (might) get their best device rolling once more. Had they not I would went on an iPhone murder rampage.
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I have 3 boys, ages 11-15, and not an Apple product in the house - I implemented my own ban long ago. Though now that I've got my Nuxus, I really want to experiment with using it as a desktop replacement, and the demo video I've seen makes Apple's Magic Trackpad look like the ideal way to do it.

jprakes said:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/07/03/samsung-and-google-to-release-ota-update-to-galaxy-nexus-to-avoid-injunction-ban/
Dumbing down search function to only include internet searches, no local (device) searches!!! weak sauce...
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Yeah, honestly, I've never used search to find local content on my phone. However, I did use individual applications own search (like contacts perhaps?). I don't think all of this suing Apple is doing is going to have much harm if any.
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Getting more and more reluctant towards Apple. I used to dislike that company due to their religious fanboys, but... After all those pseudo-patent actions... No comments.
I personally use the search-all feature a lot, both for quick contact access (have a couple hundrets of people in my People app) as well as for quick app launch (well, being an app junkie, swiping through all the launcher pages eats hell lotta time) and for web search as well.
As far as I remember, search-all feature was available in old Symbian phones as well, and some implementations were also available in WinMo. How could this be patented by the fruit-company? Getting more and more tired of not-so-brilliant judges granting dumb bans. Judges should cancel dumb patents instead!
(like rectangular shape patent!! how come one can patent a RECTANGULAR SHAPE?! Slide to unlock - ok, nice feature, but how come anyone could grant as generic patent as "unlocking by dragging one object along path to a specific position"?!)
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I totally agree. I'm not a patent lawyer and I don't know the history completely of mobile devices - but - it does seem that older devices had this search-all-content feature before Apple ever did. Remember, Apple implemented this feature back in the 3G days I beleive which was in 2008. Hell, I think the 8320 Blackberry had this feature if I'm not mistaken and was released in 2007 - I'll dig my old BB 8320 out and look for this.
Now, if Apple ultimately wins this case it WILL set a precedent for future cases and allow them to win more easily if they decide to pursue other handset makers. I personally think Google should just include the web-search only interface/widget and then offer up another Search-All widget in the market which would then overwrite the current one installed.

I wonder if this means that we will no longer be able to do things like initiate a text message or a call by voice. I sure hope not, because I use these features almost daily. It really is a shame that Apple has to have such ridiculous anticompetitive practices. Without competition, everyone will lose in the end.
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I occasionally use search and see the results returned from all phone items. While handy and not directly used, I do like this.
My hope is that Samsung does nothing until the trial. If it works the way I have read, any logical design or function can be contested in patent disputes. (E.g. rectangular phone, search means search...not just web search).
This approach protects competitors who are in the same business and work toward logical design. Note that this is my interpretation of what I read and by no means fact.
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rayiskon said:
Why are there 2 threads for the same topic?
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They were going to make 1 but deciding to make 2 just to annoy you.
J/K
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Why does everyone hate everything apple?

I own an android phone. I've always owned android stuff I don't like iOS but I don't sit there going crapple this crapple that. Iphones have their place my step dad asked me what phone to get I said iPhone because its just easier same with my mom. They are still good phones. Yea apple is run by douchebags but that's not the point in this post. Why is it if I love Android I have to hate iOS? I mean I love my Xbox I don't hate PlayStation. Don't hate so much. /rant
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i dont mind the iphone, i just dislike apple's business practices and the general douchery that comes from apple users.
apple and the users think they are better than everything and that bothers me.

Zepius said:
i dont mind the iphone, i just dislike apple's business practices and the general douchery that comes from apple users.
apple and the users think they are better than everything and that bothers me.
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This.
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Its not that we hate apple its the fact that we love android more. Android can do more and is not closed source.

Zepius said:
and the general douchery that comes from apple users.
apple and the users think they are better than everything and that bothers me.
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Yeah but... Fandroids are like that too..
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I actually really like the the design and function of their products. Same as others said before me, I don't like their business practices.
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Zepius said:
i dont mind the iphone, i just dislike apple's business practices and the general douchery that comes from apple users.
apple and the users think they are better than everything and that bothers me.
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italia0101 said:
This.
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Agreed apple create this illusion of eliteness (if that is even a word) with their OS and products. For example Facetime only for iphone users.... what the hell is wrong with skype. But overall I don't hate apple they make some good stuff.

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OK... I've seen douchery from Android users too... so don't be throwing stones in glass houses. It happens in every sector where there's two or more predominant or prevailing standards. People are people, and don't always consider that the opposite camp is full of people too.
As for what Apple's business practices, they've become more like corporate America and it's only this visible because it's become a clash of titans in the market. Patent lawsuits happen ALL THE TIME. It shows up more for us because we're swimming in the same waters as the players in the lawsuits.
All that being said, I have both. I love both for very different reasons and the pro's/con's comparison chart has polar opposites on most individual items with some overlap. But I'm not a fan boy of either since I put my douchery baton in the trash many years ago... we all should.

Zepius said:
i dont mind the iphone, i just dislike apple's business practices and the general douchery that comes from apple users.
apple and the users think they are better than everything and that bothers me.
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Its not that we hate apple its the fact that we love android more. Android can do more and is not closed source.
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Its how they do buisness, the iPhone is good, youd be stupid to say its a heap of trash but its just their buissness style. Take this USA gnex ban they just pulled off on court, just cos they can't produce anything better they throw their toys out the pram instead and the fact the courts don't just say they are being childish annoys me.
People buy apple cos their friends got one, the good advertising and are not clever enough to find a better product for their money.
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No problem with Apple products. As far as they go, fine. They do it well. I have an issue with Apple as a company, their patent system which almost seems to be based on bribes and greed, the almost stomach churning fanbase and the awful closed system where 99% of content is forced through iTunes.
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vash1053 said:
Yeah but... Fandroids are like that too..
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this is also true, but im more talking about a feeling of being elite just because of a product. it is more apparent with apple users from my observation.
apple is also lawsuit happy right now, which i also detest

A lot of it comes from apple users thinking they're doing stuff symbian, palm and blackberry owners have been doing for awhile. And then apple itself makes it worse with some of the patents like they really did invent smart phones.
butter and jelly please...

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Its how they do buisness, the iPhone is good, youd be stupid to say its a heap of trash
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i never said the iphone was a piece of trash. i dont mind it, but its not for me personally.

I like the build quality (not the design, glass on the back of the phone? really?) and how polished the OS is. However I had to use ios5 as a replacent as my GNEX was out for repairs and that was easily the worst month of my life as far as communications was concerned. Apple phones are not for myself, I would not trade my macbook air for anything else in the world tho.

oh boy a thread for Apple's white knights to post in....

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i never said the iphone was a piece of trash. i dont mind it, but its not for me personally.
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See this. I am actually seeing a lot more sense in here than I assumed I would. Their business practices suck but its a good quality product and its great for some people.
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Zepius said:
i dont mind the iphone, i just dislike apple's business practices and the general douchery that comes from apple users.
apple and the users think they are better than everything and that bothers me.
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I xx'th that; in addition, iProducts simply does not fit my requirements: local ogg vorbis support (nearly 10000 of home made audio files are in vorbis), removable battery (I have to switch battery at least twice a day), no direct download from app, cloud, and FTP, no AWS HSPA (don't ask me to switch elsewhere for iProducts, and..."back button" is not always available (app switch button on 3.x and 4.x is pretty handy).

Gahh Its Lee said:
I own an android phone. I've always owned android stuff I don't like iOS but I don't sit there going crapple this crapple that. Iphones have their place my step dad asked me what phone to get I said iPhone because its just easier same with my mom. They are still good phones. Yea apple is run by douchebags but that's not the point in this post. Why is it if I love Android I have to hate iOS? I mean I love my Xbox I don't hate PlayStation. Don't hate so much. /rant
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I had an iPhone 4. To be honest I liked it a lot. But for an advanced user its so basic and restrictive its suffocating.
I agree. IPhone is a pick up and go device. A lot of people, even most Android users use the phones as they are. And to be honest the iPhone is more user friendly then Android. Which is good for people that aren't electronically inclined or older folk that want to stay up to date with modern technology without complexity. Same for people that buy dells or HPs. They want to pick it up and use it as it is. They don't care about updating software, drivers, firmware, hardware.
On the topic of patent battles. This is a chance for Samsung and Google to show the open source community and the general public what innovation is all about.
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MichaelMcEntire said:
I actually really like the the design and function of their products. Same as others said before me, I don't like their business practices.
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This.
I used to own 2 iPods, 2 iPod Touch and still have the original iPhone somewhere in my house.
They really did make awesome products back then but then they just stopped trying and shift their attention to stop everyone else from trying to innovate.
We all know the core idea of innovation is to take an existing idea/concept and make it better.

I read somewhere on here last year or this year to date (forget which) they spent more on lawyers than on research and design and then claim to be an innovative company. Bollocks to that
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Suck it apple

http://www.acsyndicate.net/samsung-strikes-back/
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.

Well while we're on this topic here's another blow against Apple via Motorola/Google
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...kes/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
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eao1991 said:
Well while we're on this topic here's another blow against Apple via Motorola/Google
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...kes/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
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I like this one better
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Nice I hate apple. I never buy their junk. Wonder how the ifail 5 will be oh yeah that's right pretty much exactly like the ifail 4****
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.

blackdragon79 said:
http://www.acsyndicate.net/samsung-strikes-back/
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
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This means nothing. Acsyndicate.net means nothing to me, or anyone at all.

blackdragon79 said:
Nice I hate apple. I never buy their junk. Wonder how the ifail 5 will be oh yeah that's right pretty much exactly like the ifail 4****
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
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I believe the correct name would be the ifail 4ss
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I wouldn't care who gets sued but the evil empire(apple) brought this and all the suits coming their way especially the one from Motorola/ Google. Apple should have just asked for a small licensing fee and made things easy and reaped the benefits of androids growth instead of making this spectacle and pretty much making them the bad guy in most tech peoples eyes.
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damn, you crazies are angry! I mean seriously, the "butter project" should just about be as fluid as ios 5.
but apple is nice for some folk, like my wife. She can't brick it so i don't have to fix it!
BTW, you realize that even if Apple didn't sue the crap out of every phone manufacturer, the savings would not be passed along to you as the consumer. Samsung, HTC and Motorola would still price mirror the competition and profit. Also, the only people actually winning in these BS lawsuits are the douchebag lawyers, not you and Android.
Come on guys, really...

It's hard to change a brainwashed iSheep's mind.

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This means nothing. Acsyndicate.net means nothing to me, or anyone at all.
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I find a lot of accurate information at acs. You can't speak for me ever again!

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The sodium levels in this post. Lol.
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.

blackdragon79 said:
The sodium levels in this post. Lol.
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
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I beg to differ. I heavily prefer Android over Iphone, but the Iphone is still really good product. I hate Apple, too.

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I'm perfectly capable of being able to form my own opinion
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.

blackdragon79 said:
I'm perfectly capable of being able to form my own opinion
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.
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the iPhone was the first. just like Cannondale in mountainbiking

alaman68 said:
the iPhone was the first. just like Cannondale in mountainbiking
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The ifail was the first to do what?
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.

Do apple really have any rights to sue knowing they didn't even have an original design. Apple is a joke and so is the judge presiding over this case.
http://endlessparadigm.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=29488
Apple just give up the IPHONE sucks deal with it.

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The ifail was the first to do what?
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making me crack another beer for this response, and loading another dip! give me five minutes
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first off, i hate Yin and Yang discussions but since this is yet ANOTHER "apple sucks" discussion, lets look at it from your point of view. per your quote from endlessparadigm, Samsung released some garbage ass smartphones to compete with blackberry. Well, Apple then said "F U!" because blackberry blows donkey nuts and turned a phone into a smart device and had the actual "phone" as a simple app. By creating a phone function as a simple "application", the true definition of "smart phone" was defined. This device was not based on the phone alone, but additional apps that carried the same presidense for the end user that the phone did.
Because of this presidense, iPhone users began to use their devices on a regular basis for applications outside of the normal, everyday use of a cell phone. these users were downloading guitar tabs, angry birds, etc... to this device as a means of mobile communication through data cells. This exchange of data with other users led to others seeking the same interchangabililty for a "social" outcome.
As you identify our devices today, the majority of what we do is based on communication. whether it be facebook, twitter or sms, those are all simple applications Apple had the BALLS to integrate as core functions of their OS while others waited for someone else to do it, because they didn't believe it could be done.
Quote Frankly OP, if Apple didn't step the game up and did what they did, you would still be updating your Samsung Design.

The whole lawsuit lost its credibility when Apple claimed people would buy a Samsung device thinking it was an iPhone, at that point if I was the judge I would have thrown it out of my courtroom. If a person buys a Samsung phone thinking it's an iPhone then both phones are smarter than that person anyway, you would have to be a complete moron to make that mistake
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making me crack another beer for this response, and loading another dip! give me five minutes
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first off, i hate Yin and Yang discussions but since this is yet ANOTHER "apple sucks" discussion, lets look at it from your point of view. per your quote from endlessparadigm, Samsung released some garbage ass smartphones to compete with blackberry. Well, Apple then said "F U!" because blackberry blows donkey nuts and turned a phone into a smart device and had the actual "phone" as a simple app. By creating a phone function as a simple "application", the true definition of "smart phone" was defined. This device was not based on the phone alone, but additional apps that carried the same presidense for the end user that the phone did.
Because of this presidense, iPhone users began to use their devices on a regular basis for applications outside of the normal, everyday use of a cell phone. these users were downloading guitar tabs, angry birds, etc... to this device as a means of mobile communication through data cells. This exchange of data with other users led to others seeking the same interchangabililty for a "social" outcome.
As you identify our devices today, the majority of what we do is based on communication. whether it be facebook, twitter or sms, those are all simple applications Apple had the BALLS to integrate as core functions of their OS while others waited for someone else to do it, because they didn't believe it could be done.
Quote Frankly OP, if Apple didn't step the game up and did what they did, you would still be updating your Samsung Design.
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Yeah, iOS was sort of a pioneer for us. The ORIGINAL touchwiz does seem more or less a copy, but they did grow from that over the years.
The fact of the matter is, if apple wins, they'll have the ego to start going after more and more companies probably even google. Our OS is on the line atm, which is why alot of us our up in arms
I like to think of Apple as republicans, sure they had good intentions at the start, but they let the money and influence get to their heads. Like Republicans now a days, they go after anyone that's not them and kick em in the balls, partially for no right or reason.
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Apple and Republican being compared with similarities LMAO. Thats classic!!
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