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Apple does push the edge!

http://9to5mac.com/2011/10/03/co-founder-of-siri-assistant-is-a-world-changing-event-interview/

That is a lot of bluster. We'll see if it lives up to that hype.

It's SKYNET!!! Kill it with fire before it takes over!!!
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Pffft. It's all talk until I see a working copy released which doesn't suck.
... and when it happens, I will name mine "Jane."

Well sure..we'll see. I remember reading about siri when they bought it and was pretty intrigued about the prospects for smartphone use.
It wouldn't surprise me if we see it on the I5.... And yeah it would be another apple game changer... 1 that would have the rest of the industry take a long time to catch up on given that apple owns technology.
All I know is they better have a keyboard on board!

Apple will change the way humans interact with electronic devices
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lol, hyperbole

rockky said:
Well sure..we'll see. I remember reading about siri when they bought it and was pretty intrigued about the prospects for smartphone use.
It wouldn't surprise me if we see it on the I5.... And yeah it would be another apple game changer... 1 that would have the rest of the industry take a long time to catch up on given that apple owns technology.
All I know is they better have a keyboard on board!
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I cant do anything with a iphone its to small much less use the keyboard

What's so new about this Android has it since like forever? May be for dumb ppl who still think Iphone4 has 4G?

Usually on HTC there's a 30% chance you'll get rational exchanges when Apple's in the mix looks like this one hits that mark lol. If Siri (ever researched it?) were hotly rumored to be on the Nexus Prime, it'd be the dominant buzz topic on HTC, guarantee it...he'll were hot and bothered over device credit transactions...
Ok.. back to the google+ android circles on this one...there's at least an appreciation for the technology and it's smartphone implications.

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"This is real AI..."
Sorry, but no. The sheer amount of stored data required to actually accomplish a true "AI" won't be fitting in a smartphone anytime soon, and until someone has an always-on, 10+mb downlink network as a normal mobile broadband connection, it certainly won't be cloud based either. This will be nothing more than very very good speach-initiated actions.
On a related note, don't be surprised if ICS also beefs up it's speech control. It's been a long time since pico tts was implemented, and now with the standard amount of storage space in smart phones they can afford to inject a bigger database.
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Using voice for a phone is a gimmick.. I've owned many smartphones and never felt the need for it.

Apple is going to add voice recognition and navigation, two things google perfected years ago, and the tech journalists are going to get all hot over Apple's innovation. The end.
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Apple is going to add voice recognition and navigation, two things google perfected years ago, and the tech journalists are going to get all hot over Apple's innovation. The end.
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The sad thing is I can totally see that being the case. /smh

Why is this even posted here? If I wanted to read iPhone threads, I'd go to an iPhone forum.
In before I get flamed. And yeah, "if you don't like the thread, don't open it" .... whatever.

Is this a joke? Siri? Voice recognition with included internet search compatibility? Wow!!! Amazing!!! Not. Apple will be able to spin it as a ground breaking development to the idiot masses although this technology already exists and all that's different is more integration with voice command. On top of that it's boring and not as useful as they like to make it look. If this is all Apple's got it's pathetic. I don't even feel like responding to Apples non sense any longer is warranted. Let them sue everyone on the planet, they know their days are numbered and see the writing on the wall way better than I can.
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Why is this even posted here? If I wanted to read iPhone threads, I'd go to an iPhone forum.
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Agreed, posting some Apple crap voice recognition search utility on an ET4G Android forum on XDA Developers must be a joke. I think it's a joke unless its another retarded fanboy that doesn't know any better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPPcTN5sdX4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Notice the date of the posted video was August 11, 2010
Apple its so cutting edge ::rolls eyes::
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kingsway8605 said:
Apple is going to add voice recognition and navigation, two things google perfected years ago, and the tech journalists are going to get all hot over Apple's innovation. The end.
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Agreed, and then Apple's going to sue everyone who has voice recognition claiming it belongs to them. I'm wondering, have they ever tried suing Applebee's? Isn't there an apple in their sign too?
Apple be gone!
And whoever posted about this post being here in our ET forum, I agree, can a moderator move this Crapple junk out for the trash truck to pick up? Surely there's a "lawsuits-r-us" or "lawsuits-r-apple" website somewhere that this can be rejected into.

Google's answer to Siri

http://androidandme.com/2011/12/new...named-majel-could-be-released-by-end-of-year/

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http://androidandme.com/2011/12/new...named-majel-could-be-released-by-end-of-year/
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Sounds great. Can't wait for this.
Sent from the future.

Having fun with Voice Actions...can't wait for the next level of functionality
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http://gizmodo.com/5867816/alfred-the-pocket-concierge-so-good-google-had-to-have-it

Given Google's vast resources, this could blow away Siri.
Although I'll never understand the obsession with these type of applications.
They seem to be more of a novelty.

No, no, no.
Google's actual answer to Siri is:
"HAHAHAHAHAHA... You think that's actually useful?!?
Okay, well in that case, we've had that kind of thing for years.
Not that it matters..."
F%#$ marketing.

Yeah, people do look at you a little funny when you are talking to your phone....
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JohnCorleone said:
Yeah, people do look at you a little funny when you are talking to your phone....
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I just really don't find it practical at all.
Let's see... I could either...
A) hit search and type what I want real quick and hit enter
or
B) load up an app, talk to it, have it take a second to figure out what I'm saying, then it searches and, assuming it understood me correctly (and don't give me the BS that Siri always does I tried it and it doesn't), get what I could have spent half the time looking for handed to me....and look like a weirdo in public doing it.
Yeah, no thanks, I'll choose A.

I just don't understand the fascination with this recent crop of voice-recognition software. I get the "natural language interpretation" angle. That is exactly what needs to be enhanced...but...aside from that (and procession power, sampling ability and storage capacity) I have been doing command and action oriented voice recognition since, what, 1992? 1993? It was an addon pack to OS/2 v3.0 Warp. I think Dragon Naturally Speaking came out shortly thereafter....I could be wrong, It's been a while and I was a teenager back then.
Sure, the response is quicker...some times, we are network bound now....and it is a slight bit more accurate, they used to be trained to you....and thank GOD it doesn't require the training sessions it used to, though that reduces flexibility for accents and dialects....but...it's the same god-damned trick. Siri is no different, it's just a slightly (very slightly) more thoughtful implementation of the same 20+ year old technology except now we are server bound which, on Sprint, can be a horrifying experience at times.
I do think this is one of the many "next steps", but, it still hasn't gone gold yet. I'm a little surprised that Apple put out beta software. Especially given that it's been beta for 20 years now. There is no end game. It's infinitely incremental improvement....perhaps that is why. Though I think it is more telling that Apple felt they needed something ostensibly "this big" to compete that they were willing to put out beta software.
Interesting times....

I'm not gonna lie I love Siri for things like setting alarms, meetings, reminders, and calendar events. Stuff like that is helpful and quick but I don't need it to text for me or read me texts or search for me.

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but "Majel" could refer to Majel Barrett Roddenberry, wife of Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry. She was and still often is the voice of Starfleet's computers.

its funny we look schizo talking into our PHONES... I think its the note-passing tween girl 'social' networking market that keeps not talking on our phones alive... imagine if people were on an old corded phone talking to all their friends as much as people text now... I know I would throw that person out if my house... anyways... I like voice recognition for driving... and I talk texts all the time in my work van... dreaming of sideswiping the idiots texting while driving... seriously... doing makeup/shaving while driving is bad enough... but texting is just silly... youre not that important, get over yourself... I dont care who you are. Heres an idea... here in WA state, we have a distracted driving law... poorly enforced... it would be AWESOME if those who got caught texting while driving had the transcripts of the conversation read aloud in court... and hopefully published if funny enough.
grrrr... phones are for hacking not idle conversation!

I still don't understand why Siri is even this big of a discussion like Matty said, it'd be much faster to do it manually then to wait on a robot.
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Duke4eva said:
I still don't understand why Siri is even this big of a discussion like Matty said, it'd be much faster to do it manually then to wait on a robot.
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iphone hipsters dig it for some random reason

lajuan3 said:
iphone hipsters dig it for some random reason
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Someone should hack into CIQ severs and see how much Siri is used after the first week.
My guess? Rarely.
It's just a novelty.

JohnCorleone said:
Yeah, people do look at you a little funny when you are talking to your phone....
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Isn't that what phones are for?

12MaNy said:
Isn't that what phones are for?
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They are for talking into not talking to.....unless you are really lonely ...lol
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Ways for this to blow Siri out of the water:
Use Majel Roddenbury's voice from Star Trek licensed from her son
Integrate Siri-like voice commands to an API for IP-remote applications for Google TV and other Smart TVs
This would pretty much steal the thunder away from any Apple TV rumor

its gonna be tuff apple fanboys stick around no matter how much better google shows it is

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They are for talking into not talking to.....unless you are really lonely ...lol
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Good point... if we get this I might be less lonely and can get off my meds
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Next Week Nexus Returns....

We just spoke to Google, which confirmed that the Galaxy Nexus is no longer on sale right now, but Google says the device will begin shipping again next week. The company wouldn't get into specifics about why sales stopped, or whether new devices will include a patch that works around the court's preliminary ban, but they will indeed have the new Android 4.1 update.
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From what I read they are going to remove the search functionality to be able to search for anything on the phone. Apple is lame and karma will get them in the end once people wise up and realize apple products come with too many limitations.
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eqjunkie829 said:
From what I read they are going to remove the search functionality to be able to search for anything on the phone. Apple is lame and karma will get them in the end once people wise up and realize apple products come with too many limitations.
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Yea man that sucks over a stupid little feature.
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Google (the search company) can't put search on their phones anymore because Apple patented it...:screwy:
I sincerely hope Google is granted their notification patent and use it to crush Apple for their blatant copying of Android.

Im sure Google appreciates the publicity and boost in sales. Apple failed.

So new GNex will ship with JB. I wonder if tgis means we will be getting JB source soon.

This does go to show exactly how stupid and outdated our patent laws are that they allow for things like this. Google has had universal search as part of Android for quite some time and now all of a sudden it's an issue???

qreffie said:
This does go to show exactly how stupid and outdated our patent laws are that they allow for things like this. Google has had universal search as part of Android for quite some time and now all of a sudden it's an issue???
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Hasnt android had voice search before apple?

doctahjeph said:
Hasnt android had voice search before apple?
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Yep.

doctahjeph said:
Hasnt android had voice search before apple?
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The issue isn't voice search, it's universal search allowing the phone to search for applications, contacts, and media already on the phone as well as the internet and alternative sources (wikipedia, wolfram alpha...) when searching (speaking or typing into the search bar). Apple first debut it in iOS 3 I believe. I don't know when Android started doing it but it was around the same time.

Iirc, didn't some Nokia smart phones have 'universal' search. You just started typing what you were looking for and it would spit back things you had on phone. I think you could enable it to search web too.
butter and jelly please...

I can only hope Google decides they can live without the revenue they get (yes, I have heard they get more from iPhones than from Android phones... dunno how THAT works but anyway...) from iPhones and pull all Google services from iOS.

It sounds very much like Google Desktop to me. It searches a ton of things on my computer and it searches the web as well.
Seriously though, do other industries have these issues and we just never hear about them? Cars tend to all look and feel very similar. How do they deal with it? What about TVs? They are all rectangles with screens. Most cameras work very similarly. There is a ton of products that we use daily that work very much the same all the time, so how come I never hear about them having these issues?

Sully6789 said:
I sincerely hope Google is granted their notification patent and use it to crush Apple for their blatant copying of Android.
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Has Google even tried to patent it?
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I can only hope Google decides they can live without the revenue they get (yes, I have heard they get more from iPhones than from Android phones... dunno how THAT works but anyway...) from iPhones and pull all Google services from iOS.
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Never happen. all Android is to Google is an added revenue stream for their ad business. If Android fails they'll just go full on Apple. Selling ads on Google is what Google cares about.

I personally don't think Google will do anything because they want their services to continue running on iPhones. Apple can simple start putting in Bing apps and then Google would lose millions of dollars... my 2 cents why Google doesn't do anything....
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It sounds very much like Google Desktop to me. It searches a ton of things on my computer and it searches the web as well.
Seriously though, do other industries have these issues and we just never hear about them? Cars tend to all look and feel very similar. How do they deal with it? What about TVs? They are all rectangles with screens. Most cameras work very similarly. There is a ton of products that we use daily that work very much the same all the time, so how come I never hear about them having these issues?
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I guess other industries actually try to compete. Most of the time at least.
butter and jelly please...

eqjunkie829 said:
From what I read they are going to remove the search functionality to be able to search for anything on the phone. Apple is lame and karma will get them in the end once people wise up and realize apple products come with too many limitations.
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Sorry man. People who live under a rock (the majority of the market) will never know, care and do a thing.

consultant.ben said:
I can only hope Google decides they can live without the revenue they get (yes, I have heard they get more from iPhones than from Android phones... dunno how THAT works but anyway...) from iPhones and pull all Google services from iOS.
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Apple is trying to kill Google services. Haven't u noticed???

Well one thing for sure, my blackberry was able to do this for a LONG time, well before iPhone was even a forethought. So F U Apple!! You are now one of the biggest patent trolls known to man

Well is google gone patent the notification bar?
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Samsung and the cry baby

Hey guys I want to know your opinion. I'm due for an upgrade on my line. I already have a galaxy S3 and love it. I was holding out for whatever Samsung puts out next like the note. With the piss ants win this could possibly lead to there phones being banned in the U. S. Watching the news they were saying the judge in around 3 weeks from now can possibly stop all sales on galaxy devices in the U.S. Should I run out and use my upgrade or is this highly unlikely and the cry baby's won't get there way again. Maybe I'm being paranoid but the way they made it sound on the news made it seem like it's possible. It's a shame apple wins and we all loose, however this is just going to make them out innovate apple that much faster. As they said on XDA TV they may have awaken the sleeping giant. Long live Google and Samsung. I'm such a fan boy lol.. But at least I'm not a I phone user who lies to themselves. Take care community

How old are you?

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Look man I'm a bitter android enthusiasts who sick of seeing apple trying to sue Samsung in every country for the past couple years. This screws the U.S consumer. Maybe I've got issues but I won't be the only bitter person if they stop sales on galaxy devices in the U.S. And yes this possible can happen the judge will rule on it in 3 weeks
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I think the ban would be for older phone's so don't worry.

It would take an entirely new case stretched over months before a ban of current devices would take effect. No need to worry yet but the fact that this sets a precedent it pretty unsettling.
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I don't know I've read they have to stop selling the Galaxy S2 and galaxy nexus in the U.S
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mike216 said:
I don't know I've read they have to stop selling the Galaxy S2 and galaxy nexus in the U.S
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Nope you read wrong info ; there is no ban on any phone yet.
Galaxy s3 is not under apples list of target.
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i'm glad i'm not the only one who finds these posts ridiculous, i'm surprised it's tolerated here.

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i'm glad i'm not the only one who finds these posts ridiculous, i'm surprised it's tolerated here.
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as ridiculous as these posts may be, not everyone is crystal clear about information add there are many media outlets and some giving wrong information. it want a troll post i don't think and was just someone looking for answers. you didn't have to reply or even read the post. i believe xda is for everyone, not just people who have vast knowledge of tech and being in the know of everything that's going on. if someone has a legitimate question, we should all share knowledge. at least this is my opinion.
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Thanks, this is why I asked in the general. Some ass holes spend there time searching the general and Q&A to try and flame people. They need a hug but this seems to be there only outlet. If you find it ridiculous then keep it moving. You don't have to read it.
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I didn't see the S3 on the list of targets either. I am really hoping the judge goes easier on them than the jury did. I think that jury was just made up of a bunch of really, really dumb people.
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I'm sure they will appeal the decision. Or at least I hope. Apple certainly does not need more money or power.
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I didn't see the S3 on the list of targets either. I am really hoping the judge goes easier on them than the jury did. I think that jury was just made up of a bunch of really, really dumb people.
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Yes the average person trying to do the jobs of actually engineers. They have no idea what they were talking about. This is just a proxy war against Google. They didn't find the tab infringed but the phone did? Also they didn't find apple guilty for anything when they clearly were. O well like I said before it's just going to make Samsung out innovate them that much quicker. Let the truth be told, we need them to compete against each other so we have more innovation. This Leeds to super computers in your pocket for under 200$.
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I didn't see the S3 on the list of targets either. I am really hoping the judge goes easier on them than the jury did. I think that jury was just made up of a bunch of really, really dumb people.
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I think whoever was working at the patent office the day a patent for a rectangular phone with round edges, or a green icon, was granted is the real idiot.
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I'm sure they will appeal the decision. Or at least I hope. Apple certainly does not need more money or power.
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Appeals are in the works and they are planning for multiple scenarios. This won't go down easy. There was an article somewhere saying that this was the best exposure for Samsung in terms of advertising because people are able to see that if the Samsung and iPhone products are the same and they can get the Samsung for cheaper, they will opt for cheaper.
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What I don't understand is how the Jury was so proud that they did not read the instructions from the judge and went ahead to fill out 700 questions is less than 2.5 days,
I thought the entire point of a jury was to deliberate and come to a conclusion based on the evidence presented. The jury also stated they wanted to set a precedent and make an example of out Samsung, I wonder ho many of the use Ipads and Iphones...a Jury's job isn't to make an example but be fair and unbiased.
Sounds like the jury was pretty damn biased to me, there are a lot of legal experts saying that this will be overturned maybe even in this trial based on the jury's behavior. If not this trial, then most definitely the appeals court should overturn their verdict.
Essentially everything Lucky Koh does, the appeals court overturns.
I think Samsung should sue the US Patent Office, clearly they didn't check anything before granting useless patent after patent.
Probably some idiot working there who just check to see if all the boxes were checked and the paperwork was their, then they granted based on that.
How else can anyone say a rectangle with curved corners is patent-able
Alright enough with the rant.
Long Live Samsung and Android.

I love android and all products associated but I hate to say it, it's pretty obvious Samsung used many elements from ios to skin android with touchwiz. If you can't see the obvious you're delusional at best.
I wish Samsung the best but they made their bed, now they need to sleep in it.
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What I don't understand is how the Jury was so proud that they did not read the instructions from the judge and went ahead to fill out 700 questions is less than 2.5 days,
I thought the entire point of a jury was to deliberate and come to a conclusion based on the evidence presented. The jury also stated they wanted to set a precedent and make an example of out Samsung, I wonder ho many of the use Ipads and Iphones...a Jury's job isn't to make an example but be fair and unbiased.
Sounds like the jury was pretty damn biased to me, there are a lot of legal experts saying that this will be overturned maybe even in this trial based on the jury's behavior. If not this trial, then most definitely the appeals court should overturn their verdict.
Essentially everything Lucky Koh does, the appeals court overturns.
I think Samsung should sue the US Patent Office, clearly they didn't check anything before granting useless patent after patent.
Probably some idiot working there who just check to see if all the boxes were checked and the paperwork was their, then they granted based on that.
How else can anyone say a rectangle with curved corners is patent-able
Alright enough with the rant.
Long Live Samsung and Android.
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Shut up.. we all know Sammy copied apple first for being the only Android maker to have a physical home button in the same spot as the iPhone & the colorful launcher of the s1 & s2.. they are iPhone replicas.. point blank. I have a galaxy tab 10.1 & people swear it is an iPad when they first see it.
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Playing devil's advocate for a moment:
One could argue that the way Apple made their iPhone is really the best way a phone could be made. Therefore, Samsung had no choice but to make it look and sound the best, it just happened to come out looking like the iPhone... but with a totally different operating system, and much more improved IMHO.

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Playing devil's advocate for a moment:
One could argue that the way Apple made their iPhone is really the best way a phone could be made. Therefore, Samsung had no choice but to make it look and sound the best, it just happened to come out looking like the iPhone... but with a totally different operating system, and much more improved IMHO.
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Tell that to an iOS user that any Android device is better... after using a iPhone for two days im Impressed with the build quality.. which is one thing Samsung lacks. They even used a fake metal look alike material & plastic... where paying $650 for that build, really?
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What does apple need to do beat Andriod?

Before anyone jumps the gun and calls me a fan boy of apple im not! I love my Galaxy.
I Was sitting at work bored and i started thinking about how IPhone is just so hated on as is IOS. So my question to you guys.
What do you think apple needs to do to capture more of the Smartphone Market. In my honest opinion I think iphone is fine hardware wise but i strongly belive that Apples needs to Rebuid IOS from the ground up instead of adding to it every year.
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Make themselves open source and being less anal about certain phone features.. and possibly lowering their retarded prices.
My 2 cents..
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they can't. They lost to Microsoft. They'll lose again
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There's a lot apple would have to do to beat out android. Being open source and price yes just as the two above me have posted. They also need to get adobe flash player added to their devices. This is one of their largest set backs. But the main thing they need to do is stop thinking they are better than android as of now. Just because you own certain patents does not give the right to sue your screen manufacturer. Apple suing Samsung was a huge problem for me and made me sell my iPad and iPod because their using their name as leverage. Just a few opinions that I have and not in any way garbage talking about anyone or thing.
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Before anyone jumps the gun and calls me a fan boy of apple im not! I love my Galaxy.
I Was sitting at work bored and i started thinking about how IPhone is just so hated on as is IOS. So my question to you guys.
What do you think apple needs to do to capture more of the Smartphone Market. In my honest opinion I think iphone is fine hardware wise but i strongly belive that Apples needs to Rebuid IOS from the ground up instead of adding to it every year.
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obviously the iPhone is not hated ok because millions of people bought it in the US. they are getting more hate though ever since the lawsuits. wish they didn't start that so there would be good competition and innovation. maybe we'd be further along with tech by now.
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They Cant
They cant beat Android because they are left with nowhere to go as far as innovating/adding features to IOS. Android builds and builds on top of what they have often while apple just pushes out the same crap os.
Seriously put the first IOS release next to the newest and the only difference will be folders. LOL. Oh and wallpapers. Other than that they are identical. Android on the other hand is night and day from what it was to what it is now. The features are hundreds of times better and more plentiful. You couldnt pay me to go back to ios (yeah I use to be an iphone user up until the 3gs, but after seeing the 3gs I realized that they were just money gouging and not adding any damn thing) because of their lazy os.
I also love that they are stealing features from Android now and not even trying to cover it up. The iphone 5 dimentions look stupid as hell. I cant wait to see the flop that is the iphone 5 tomorrow. So damn terrible. Android FTW!

gr4b3nsn4tch said:
There's a lot apple would have to do to beat out android. Being open source and price yes just as the two above me have posted. They also need to get adobe flash player added to their devices. This is one of their largest set backs. But the main thing they need to do is stop thinking they are better than android as of now. Just because you own certain patents does not give the right to sue your screen manufacturer. Apple suing Samsung was a huge problem for me and made me sell my iPad and iPod because their using their name as leverage. Just a few opinions that I have and not in any way garbage talking about anyone or thing.
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I work in graphic art and prepress systems since 1990 and all my life in work we used mainly apple computers and my conclusion is that they cannot do nothing in their attitude. This is their attitude and they think they are better than the others. Many times they was innovative but always this was their dumb because they was always kept the doors closed to others and the free spirit of a user. All their OS systems they was like that was made for stupid users, all the system things was closed and you always if you was using any apple device you needed to accept how the things are supposed to work without giving you the freedom of touching nothing. Isn't obvious that 85% of PC are with windows a big growing percent with linux and 5 or less percent with apple.
For me their last chance was the 1st iphone a phone that was pretty good in that time with fancy loocking etc but after 1 month went to girlfriend simply because again to have what I need I had to hack it or to pay a fortune for apps that a simple symbian or WM was doing out of the box.
As for the main question in this thread well I don't think they can do anything about it, this company has DNA problem and honestly I don't care now. Iphone 5 or iphone11 will be again the same plate in the same table with the same food on it, fancy announcement that will catch the chicks and some guys and that's it(and most of the Americans something that I don't understand honestly). In the era we live we must be happy that exist companies like samsung were they do the great hardware that they do and we have an almost open source software like android.
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And adding a 4" screen& moving a few things around, selling it for hundreds of dollars and saying its a new design. Apple is far behind
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My two favourite brands are Samsung and HTC. Thats not to say I wouldn't change to another Android maker. But iOS you've only one maker Apple and, no choice apart from 16GB or 32GB. That would be like only having carrier !
I like choice and Android gives me that.

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And adding a 4" screen& moving a few things around, selling it for hundreds of dollars and saying its a new design. Apple is far behind
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Exactly. The sad thing is so many of their sheeple will just buy it and act like its something new. Same stupid ass IOS in a slightly bigger case. So damn lame. I hate apple.

They need to give more freedom to the developers to do what they want with their app. Apple is lucky that there are so many developers making jailbreak tweaks to make their iPhone a lot better to use. Without jailbreak, iPhone is complete useless on some of the basic functions. The only advantage that iPhone has is the amount of apps they have in their appstore. Without the amount of apps they have in their appstore, I would not even consider getting an iPhone. Not that I would consider it now because S3 is such a great device.

In my opinion, they're already winning this war. It's us who need to catch up to them. I live in Orlando and the amount of iphone is staggering compared to galaxy s. A lot of people I know are anticipating tomorrow.... As long as this world exists, there will be something for the mainstream

for apple to win, they must copy Android's abilities for customization such as widgets and different keyboards. also, believe it or not, bigger screens. i remember back in the day Apple used to crap on Android saying 4"screen is way too big... oh what fools they look like now..
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Apple will never catch up to Android. Ever. The reason being is exactly the reason Taysider mentioned. iOS is designed, maintained, and serviced by one company and one company alone, Apple. It is closed source and offers zero customization options. Apple imposes very strict rules on development and doesn't encourage innovation from outside it's company even if it was developed solely for their device.
Android offers a multitude of different devices to fit the needs of any user, from the beginner smartphone user to the life long developer. Android is open source and Google encourages development of customization and drives innovation actively from it's end users. Android is constantly evolving to better meet the needs and wants of it's users and Google actually listens to it's users rather than dictating what the user will want/need.
Apple will never let go of it's precious iOS. IFand that's a big if, they would let iOS go open source and allow other manufactures to use it while also allowing open development of custom ROMS and MODS they MAY gain some market share back. As it stands, you will see a small increase in market share after the release of a new generation iPhone, but it will decline again shortly after.
Just my opinion.

Android is a disease! it spreads out! and there is no cure!!!

Apple needs to bring back Steve Jobs.

It's a disease alright but a good one.
Noticed eBay and other sites that sell used mobile devices lately?
See the amount of iPhone's being dumped at these sites.
You will get the picture where 'apple is heading.
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Apple is always very popular，why？

I f Apple wants to beat Android, my personal opinion is Apple has to go open source, release an Apple phone with every carrier along with havin many different Apple phone models..
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Pete7ate said:
Apple is always very popular，why？
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Apple has been around for a long time it's always been very simple to use, super easy interfaces and they just have a cult following do to those reasons.
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Also I've noticed especially here in Las Vegas Apple is huge with the older crowd. Take my mother for example she has an 8gig iPhone 3Gs. AT&T offered her any phone in the store for free even the Galaxy S3. She was trying to get an iPhone 4 not even a 4s for free but they wouldn't do an iPhone for free she refused she turned it down and decided to stick with your old iPhone even though the battery holds only a 2 hlur charge now.
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