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Apple does push the edge!

http://9to5mac.com/2011/10/03/co-founder-of-siri-assistant-is-a-world-changing-event-interview/

That is a lot of bluster. We'll see if it lives up to that hype.

It's SKYNET!!! Kill it with fire before it takes over!!!
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Pffft. It's all talk until I see a working copy released which doesn't suck.
... and when it happens, I will name mine "Jane."

Well sure..we'll see. I remember reading about siri when they bought it and was pretty intrigued about the prospects for smartphone use.
It wouldn't surprise me if we see it on the I5.... And yeah it would be another apple game changer... 1 that would have the rest of the industry take a long time to catch up on given that apple owns technology.
All I know is they better have a keyboard on board!

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lol, hyperbole

rockky said:
Well sure..we'll see. I remember reading about siri when they bought it and was pretty intrigued about the prospects for smartphone use.
It wouldn't surprise me if we see it on the I5.... And yeah it would be another apple game changer... 1 that would have the rest of the industry take a long time to catch up on given that apple owns technology.
All I know is they better have a keyboard on board!
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I cant do anything with a iphone its to small much less use the keyboard

What's so new about this Android has it since like forever? May be for dumb ppl who still think Iphone4 has 4G?

Usually on HTC there's a 30% chance you'll get rational exchanges when Apple's in the mix looks like this one hits that mark lol. If Siri (ever researched it?) were hotly rumored to be on the Nexus Prime, it'd be the dominant buzz topic on HTC, guarantee it...he'll were hot and bothered over device credit transactions...
Ok.. back to the google+ android circles on this one...there's at least an appreciation for the technology and it's smartphone implications.

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"This is real AI..."
Sorry, but no. The sheer amount of stored data required to actually accomplish a true "AI" won't be fitting in a smartphone anytime soon, and until someone has an always-on, 10+mb downlink network as a normal mobile broadband connection, it certainly won't be cloud based either. This will be nothing more than very very good speach-initiated actions.
On a related note, don't be surprised if ICS also beefs up it's speech control. It's been a long time since pico tts was implemented, and now with the standard amount of storage space in smart phones they can afford to inject a bigger database.
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Using voice for a phone is a gimmick.. I've owned many smartphones and never felt the need for it.

Apple is going to add voice recognition and navigation, two things google perfected years ago, and the tech journalists are going to get all hot over Apple's innovation. The end.
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Apple is going to add voice recognition and navigation, two things google perfected years ago, and the tech journalists are going to get all hot over Apple's innovation. The end.
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The sad thing is I can totally see that being the case. /smh

Why is this even posted here? If I wanted to read iPhone threads, I'd go to an iPhone forum.
In before I get flamed. And yeah, "if you don't like the thread, don't open it" .... whatever.

Is this a joke? Siri? Voice recognition with included internet search compatibility? Wow!!! Amazing!!! Not. Apple will be able to spin it as a ground breaking development to the idiot masses although this technology already exists and all that's different is more integration with voice command. On top of that it's boring and not as useful as they like to make it look. If this is all Apple's got it's pathetic. I don't even feel like responding to Apples non sense any longer is warranted. Let them sue everyone on the planet, they know their days are numbered and see the writing on the wall way better than I can.
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Why is this even posted here? If I wanted to read iPhone threads, I'd go to an iPhone forum.
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Agreed, posting some Apple crap voice recognition search utility on an ET4G Android forum on XDA Developers must be a joke. I think it's a joke unless its another retarded fanboy that doesn't know any better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPPcTN5sdX4&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Notice the date of the posted video was August 11, 2010
Apple its so cutting edge ::rolls eyes::
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kingsway8605 said:
Apple is going to add voice recognition and navigation, two things google perfected years ago, and the tech journalists are going to get all hot over Apple's innovation. The end.
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Agreed, and then Apple's going to sue everyone who has voice recognition claiming it belongs to them. I'm wondering, have they ever tried suing Applebee's? Isn't there an apple in their sign too?
Apple be gone!
And whoever posted about this post being here in our ET forum, I agree, can a moderator move this Crapple junk out for the trash truck to pick up? Surely there's a "lawsuits-r-us" or "lawsuits-r-apple" website somewhere that this can be rejected into.

Siri like app

Has anyone tried using speaktoit from the market?
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use iris
it's cool

I tried iris I think speaktoit is better
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why do people think siri is cool? its talking to a machine!
generation of mobile phone using assholes.
1. first mobile phone users with large handsets out in public
2. people wearing a suit walking around talking loudly into their handset all the time
3. business people adopting this more by carrying around a briefcase with nokia ringtone
4. use of bluetooth headsets, business people talking loudly in public but actually speaking on the phone as if they are SOOO important they need to talk whilst shopping
5. Siri comes along replacing the need for someone to actually talk to whilst you look like a **** walking around with your bluetooth headset in talking to your phone and getting updates on weather and calendar notifications....
Siri just seems so stupid and dumb to me, mobile phones should be personal rather then broadcasted telling your phone what to text or email...
am i the only one who thinks this?

Speak to it works ok, still kinda weak... For example I tell it to text bob what's up, and it writes bob what's up versus google built in would choose bob as the contact. Speak to it wants you to manually select the contact and hit send. So basically it just translated your speech, not very smart. But it is in beta! Has lots of potential especially the personality it has, but it needs more integration, automation, and maybe different voices. Plus a way to activate it without bringing up the app our widget and hitting the mic button.

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Speak to it works ok, still kinda weak... For example I tell it to text bob what's up, and it writes bob what's up versus google built in would choose bob as the contact. Speak to it wants you to manually select the contact and hit send. So basically it just translated your speech, not very smart. But it is in beta! Has lots of potential especially the personality it has, but it needs more integration, automation, and maybe different voices. Plus a way to activate it without bringing up the app our widget and hitting the mic button.
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yeah, it would really need to be integrated into the OS really to work as well as apple's does. but again... like most apple stuff, its gimmicky and worthless to most.
to be fair, it did play with they for an hour last night. its okay maybe if youre driving but really other than that.... stupid.

I'm using Voice Actions, I find it to be somewhat useful. Its like having another shortcut to get things opened and done. I installed a Loquendo voice so that it sounds better.
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penfold1992 said:
why do people think siri is cool? its talking to a machine!
generation of mobile phone using assholes.
1. first mobile phone users with large handsets out in public
2. people wearing a suit walking around talking loudly into their handset all the time
3. business people adopting this more by carrying around a briefcase with nokia ringtone
4. use of bluetooth headsets, business people talking loudly in public but actually speaking on the phone as if they are SOOO important they need to talk whilst shopping
5. Siri comes along replacing the need for someone to actually talk to whilst you look like a **** walking around with your bluetooth headset in talking to your phone and getting updates on weather and calendar notifications....
Siri just seems so stupid and dumb to me, mobile phones should be personal rather then broadcasted telling your phone what to text or email...
am i the only one who thinks this?
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Completely agree. I foresee Apple starting a whole new wave of people yelling at their phones (not talking to a person over the phone, but talking TO the phone) in libraries, at the movies, and other places where they should otherwise keep their mouths shut.

'Uhhh, look at meeee! Imz soo sexi wit ma nuu iPhony-speakin app!'

I've tried Iris but i'm not really sastisfied with this app
Siri like apps are a nice feature but nobody needs them and I would never pay for such an app.

the problem is that "apple" now seems to be cool when really at least imo apple always seem to be a bit.... unfinished.
as a pc user mainly i find apple products very unnatural and bulky. I own a ipod touch and i want the music on my ipod to look identical to what it does on itunes, why is that so difficult for you itunes? its little things like this that make apple not worth bothering...
back to the subject, because "apple" is "cool" it means the majority of the blind dumb sided public just inject what ever gimmick that apple throws at them directly into their veins. When using an iphone i never once thought..."you know what the problem is here... i cant put a notification in my diary about when i want to eat dinner with my mum... i wish my phone knew who my mum was so i could ask to call mum and it will dial her" i usually think of issues like "why is their camera so bad in day light, i dont want to take better quality night photos thats like giving me a nice smelling **** to hold... no matter what it smells like i dont want to hold the thing! Besides why doesnt my ipod tunes look EXACTYLY LIKE IT DOES ON ITUNES!"
what about... why cant i see some simple things on my home screen like unread emails or weather widgets? and as a user of the ipod i feel treated like a brick... once i take the ipod out of its box im very restricted with what i can do, there are no customisation options that are of any intrest

G1rome said:
Has anyone tried using speaktoit from the market?
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Why did this post get soooooooooooo far away from the original question? Not a lot of help here for the person who posted. I too am somewhat interested in an app like this for my own reasons but I don't feel it deserves other folks telling me why I shouldn't want/need an app like this. This is a great website with a lot of great, helpful folks who I very much appreciate so, does anyone have anything "constructive" to add as a response to the original question?

I just use the built-in Voice Search. Does a majority of what Siri does, and has the advantage of having been out significantly longer. Amusing to use 'navigate to' or 'listen to' and have an iDrone comment on how fast Google 'stole' Siri.
Voice Actions is OK, and Jeannie is decent aside from a HUGE amount of spin-up time and a tendency to take over for the A2DP 'play' function.

Been a while, and I'm sure a few updates to the app since this thread started but Speak To It is pretty good.
Our G2s have the search button on the buttom right of the screen; this button can be set up to access the app, so no need to have the widget up or start the app.
When you access the app via the search button , its more Siri -like as in you don't see the Avatar but the app otherwise works as it normally does
I love how it gives you witty responses too like if you ask it does it smoke or if it's in love for example LOL

G1rome said:
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I've used Vlingo....not too bad actually. Give it a try

Take a look at Utter
I know the OP was from last year, but i just came across this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1508195&highlight=utter
Utter
I can't wait, hope it releases soon.

Samsung and the cry baby

Hey guys I want to know your opinion. I'm due for an upgrade on my line. I already have a galaxy S3 and love it. I was holding out for whatever Samsung puts out next like the note. With the piss ants win this could possibly lead to there phones being banned in the U. S. Watching the news they were saying the judge in around 3 weeks from now can possibly stop all sales on galaxy devices in the U.S. Should I run out and use my upgrade or is this highly unlikely and the cry baby's won't get there way again. Maybe I'm being paranoid but the way they made it sound on the news made it seem like it's possible. It's a shame apple wins and we all loose, however this is just going to make them out innovate apple that much faster. As they said on XDA TV they may have awaken the sleeping giant. Long live Google and Samsung. I'm such a fan boy lol.. But at least I'm not a I phone user who lies to themselves. Take care community

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Look man I'm a bitter android enthusiasts who sick of seeing apple trying to sue Samsung in every country for the past couple years. This screws the U.S consumer. Maybe I've got issues but I won't be the only bitter person if they stop sales on galaxy devices in the U.S. And yes this possible can happen the judge will rule on it in 3 weeks
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I think the ban would be for older phone's so don't worry.

It would take an entirely new case stretched over months before a ban of current devices would take effect. No need to worry yet but the fact that this sets a precedent it pretty unsettling.
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I don't know I've read they have to stop selling the Galaxy S2 and galaxy nexus in the U.S
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mike216 said:
I don't know I've read they have to stop selling the Galaxy S2 and galaxy nexus in the U.S
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Nope you read wrong info ; there is no ban on any phone yet.
Galaxy s3 is not under apples list of target.
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i'm glad i'm not the only one who finds these posts ridiculous, i'm surprised it's tolerated here.

jessedegenerate said:
i'm glad i'm not the only one who finds these posts ridiculous, i'm surprised it's tolerated here.
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as ridiculous as these posts may be, not everyone is crystal clear about information add there are many media outlets and some giving wrong information. it want a troll post i don't think and was just someone looking for answers. you didn't have to reply or even read the post. i believe xda is for everyone, not just people who have vast knowledge of tech and being in the know of everything that's going on. if someone has a legitimate question, we should all share knowledge. at least this is my opinion.
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Thanks, this is why I asked in the general. Some ass holes spend there time searching the general and Q&A to try and flame people. They need a hug but this seems to be there only outlet. If you find it ridiculous then keep it moving. You don't have to read it.
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I didn't see the S3 on the list of targets either. I am really hoping the judge goes easier on them than the jury did. I think that jury was just made up of a bunch of really, really dumb people.
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I'm sure they will appeal the decision. Or at least I hope. Apple certainly does not need more money or power.
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djmariah said:
I didn't see the S3 on the list of targets either. I am really hoping the judge goes easier on them than the jury did. I think that jury was just made up of a bunch of really, really dumb people.
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Yes the average person trying to do the jobs of actually engineers. They have no idea what they were talking about. This is just a proxy war against Google. They didn't find the tab infringed but the phone did? Also they didn't find apple guilty for anything when they clearly were. O well like I said before it's just going to make Samsung out innovate them that much quicker. Let the truth be told, we need them to compete against each other so we have more innovation. This Leeds to super computers in your pocket for under 200$.
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djmariah said:
I didn't see the S3 on the list of targets either. I am really hoping the judge goes easier on them than the jury did. I think that jury was just made up of a bunch of really, really dumb people.
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I think whoever was working at the patent office the day a patent for a rectangular phone with round edges, or a green icon, was granted is the real idiot.
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Warrior1975 said:
I'm sure they will appeal the decision. Or at least I hope. Apple certainly does not need more money or power.
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Appeals are in the works and they are planning for multiple scenarios. This won't go down easy. There was an article somewhere saying that this was the best exposure for Samsung in terms of advertising because people are able to see that if the Samsung and iPhone products are the same and they can get the Samsung for cheaper, they will opt for cheaper.
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What I don't understand is how the Jury was so proud that they did not read the instructions from the judge and went ahead to fill out 700 questions is less than 2.5 days,
I thought the entire point of a jury was to deliberate and come to a conclusion based on the evidence presented. The jury also stated they wanted to set a precedent and make an example of out Samsung, I wonder ho many of the use Ipads and Iphones...a Jury's job isn't to make an example but be fair and unbiased.
Sounds like the jury was pretty damn biased to me, there are a lot of legal experts saying that this will be overturned maybe even in this trial based on the jury's behavior. If not this trial, then most definitely the appeals court should overturn their verdict.
Essentially everything Lucky Koh does, the appeals court overturns.
I think Samsung should sue the US Patent Office, clearly they didn't check anything before granting useless patent after patent.
Probably some idiot working there who just check to see if all the boxes were checked and the paperwork was their, then they granted based on that.
How else can anyone say a rectangle with curved corners is patent-able
Alright enough with the rant.
Long Live Samsung and Android.

I love android and all products associated but I hate to say it, it's pretty obvious Samsung used many elements from ios to skin android with touchwiz. If you can't see the obvious you're delusional at best.
I wish Samsung the best but they made their bed, now they need to sleep in it.
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ipaq_101 said:
What I don't understand is how the Jury was so proud that they did not read the instructions from the judge and went ahead to fill out 700 questions is less than 2.5 days,
I thought the entire point of a jury was to deliberate and come to a conclusion based on the evidence presented. The jury also stated they wanted to set a precedent and make an example of out Samsung, I wonder ho many of the use Ipads and Iphones...a Jury's job isn't to make an example but be fair and unbiased.
Sounds like the jury was pretty damn biased to me, there are a lot of legal experts saying that this will be overturned maybe even in this trial based on the jury's behavior. If not this trial, then most definitely the appeals court should overturn their verdict.
Essentially everything Lucky Koh does, the appeals court overturns.
I think Samsung should sue the US Patent Office, clearly they didn't check anything before granting useless patent after patent.
Probably some idiot working there who just check to see if all the boxes were checked and the paperwork was their, then they granted based on that.
How else can anyone say a rectangle with curved corners is patent-able
Alright enough with the rant.
Long Live Samsung and Android.
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Shut up.. we all know Sammy copied apple first for being the only Android maker to have a physical home button in the same spot as the iPhone & the colorful launcher of the s1 & s2.. they are iPhone replicas.. point blank. I have a galaxy tab 10.1 & people swear it is an iPad when they first see it.
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Playing devil's advocate for a moment:
One could argue that the way Apple made their iPhone is really the best way a phone could be made. Therefore, Samsung had no choice but to make it look and sound the best, it just happened to come out looking like the iPhone... but with a totally different operating system, and much more improved IMHO.

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Playing devil's advocate for a moment:
One could argue that the way Apple made their iPhone is really the best way a phone could be made. Therefore, Samsung had no choice but to make it look and sound the best, it just happened to come out looking like the iPhone... but with a totally different operating system, and much more improved IMHO.
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Tell that to an iOS user that any Android device is better... after using a iPhone for two days im Impressed with the build quality.. which is one thing Samsung lacks. They even used a fake metal look alike material & plastic... where paying $650 for that build, really?
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The iPhone 5: Blah

I've been an Apple user since my parent's bought the first Mac when it debuted; sure I was like 5 but I grew up on Macs.
I've never owned an iPhone but have seriously considered it, researched it and chose Android for a number of reasons. I upgraded to the E4GT last year, most of my friends and family worship at the church of the iPhone and upon seeing the E4GT every single iPhonatic was blown away by how much better it is than their device.
Which brings me to today's announcement: I couldn't be less impressed-- the days of Apple innovation seem like a distant memory. The most impressive thing that Apple showcased today is that it has the world's greatest public relations team; I couldn't be more impressed by their PR machine.
Also, in reading many mainstream news articles about the new iPhone I've seen a plethora of quotes from stock analysts about the device's hardware and design but only a few quotes from tech experts; it's very telling that the only people raving about it are those with a vested interest in seeing the stock price go up.
Look forward to your thoughts and countless "cool story bro" replies ...

Umm in before jay gets here? Lol
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You hit the nail on the head with the lack of innovations. At this point I don't care if they're stolen, just give us something to rave about! Seemed like this iPhone was just another "Let's get it up to par with the current Android devices and work on the real innovation for next year" release. I don't inherently hate Apple. They're responsible for a large chunk of why computing is so integrated into our daily lives. I just miss the days when they were changing them.
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Umm in before jay gets here? Lol
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Why would this thread be problematic?

FitChicago said:
Look forward to your thoughts and countless "cool story bro" replies ...
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Why did you even bother posting this? Why not just go to the XDA Iphone site?..
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Umm in before jay gets here? Lol
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Eh, we'd knew it was gonna happen. Even drew a One X Att user in on it.. :silly:
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Why would this thread be problematic?
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You jest right? So you want to see a bunch of silly pictures and all?
Jay or Pappa, please move this to XDA General or lock? Thank you! (can ya even throw it waaaaay over to BigPengs fav XDA Iphone forum?? )

I lawled at the announcement of the iphone5 and this picture describes it all

MoHoGalore said:
Jay or Pappa, please move this to XDA General or lock? Thank you! (can ya even throw it waaaaay over to BigPengs fav XDA Iphone forum?? )
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I thought bigpeng would create this thread
TeAm VeNuM: Choose your pOiSoN

Cool stor....... nvm.
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MoHoGalore said:
Why did you even bother posting this? Why not just go to the XDA Iphone site?..
Eh, we'd knew it was gonna happen. Even drew a One X Att user in on it.. :silly:
You jest right? So you want to see a bunch of silly pictures and all?
Jay or Pappa, please move this to XDA General or lock? Thank you! (can ya even throw it waaaaay over to BigPengs fav XDA Iphone forum?? )
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I thought bigpeng would create this thread
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iVazn....
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k4p741nkrunch said:
You hit the nail on the head with the lack of innovations. At this point I don't care if they're stolen, just give us something to rave about! Seemed like this iPhone was just another "Let's get it up to par with the current Android devices and work on the real innovation for next year" release. I don't inherently hate Apple. They're responsible for a large chunk of why computing is so integrated into our daily lives. I just miss the days when they were changing them.
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Being a daily Apple user I agree with the above, Apple lost a lot when Steve Jobs died. However I wouldn't say that it is "just bringing it up to the current Android devices." I mean have you seen the hardware on that sucker? It's freaking gorgeous! You get Siri(Which I personally find fun and amusing), Airplay, Airprint, and iCloud which is a pretty nice service for those with Macs. I don't think the iPhone is for everyone, but I never have hesitated to recommend them to non-techies. My $0.02.
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Why did you even bother posting this? Why not just go to the XDA Iphone site?..
Eh, we'd knew it was gonna happen. Even drew a One X Att user in on it.. :silly:
You jest right? So you want to see a bunch of silly pictures and all?
Jay or Pappa, please move this to XDA General or lock? Thank you! (can ya even throw it waaaaay over to BigPengs fav XDA Iphone forum?? )
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Yeah but it doesn't HAVE to degenerate like that, people just enjoy spamming random crap way too much. I don't see the problem with a little honest discussion on the subject.

k4p741nkrunch said:
You hit the nail on the head with the lack of innovations. At this point I don't care if they're stolen, just give us something to rave about! Seemed like this iPhone was just another "Let's get it up to par with the current Android devices and work on the real innovation for next year" release. I don't inherently hate Apple. They're responsible for a large chunk of why computing is so integrated into our daily lives. I just miss the days when they were changing them.
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Exactly right about Apple "getting up to par" with current Android devices, but IMO I think they failed to do that today. I think the S3 is a better device.
I'd choose my current E4GT running JB with Google Now over the new iPhone and Siri (leaving the 4G LTE out if the evaluation).
Like I said in my OP I've been an Apple fan/user my whole life and don't want this thread to focus on bashing Apple rather look at the real facts beyond the world's best hype machine.

I actually like the iPhone 5. Sadly it isn't exciting. It isn't like. ERMAHGERD ERPHERN5, its just boring besides small changes..
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FitChicago said:
Exactly right about Apple "getting up to par" with current Android devices, but IMO I think they failed to do that today. I think the S3 is a better device.
I'd choose my current E4GT running JB with Google Now over the new iPhone and Siri (leaving the 4G LTE out if the evaluation).
Like I said in my OP I've been an Apple fan/user my whole life and don't want this thread to focus on bashing Apple rather look at the real facts beyond the world's best hype machine.
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I'm still not convinced that Google Now is a match for Siri, to me it's comparing Kiwi and lemons. What makes the iPhone stand out is what has always made it standout, the how noob friendly it is, to us geeks who hack our phones it seems outdated and almost childish, but to users like my mom who just want a simple non-customizable phone that does what they tell it too every time the iPhone is perfect. That's always been what Apple is, magnificent hardware(If slightly behind the curve), dumbed down UI, and the sole focus being user experience out of the box.

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Yeah but it doesn't HAVE to degenerate like that, people just enjoy spamming random crap way too much. I don't see the problem with a little honest discussion on the subject.
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While you are correct, when does that happen? And the OP even knew it would with the last sentence in the opening.. Hence my question of why even doing it?
If civility is what he was looking for, then why not go to the place for it?.. But I digress from the OP, so I'll stay on topic..
Op- are you really surprised?

MoHoGalore said:
While you are correct, when does that happen? And the OP even knew it would with the last sentence in the opening.. Hence my question of why even doing it?
If civility is what he was looking for, then why not go to the place for it?.. But I digress from the OP, so I'll stay on topic..
Op- are you really surprised?
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Oh I know what you mean, and he knew what would happen, but I'm still going to do my part to try and keep on-topic and reasonable.

thewadegeek said:
Being a daily Apple user I agree with the above, Apple lost a lot when Steve Jobs died. However I wouldn't say that it is "just bringing it up to the current Android devices." I mean have you seen the hardware on that sucker? It's freaking gorgeous! You get Siri(Which I personally find fun and amusing), Airplay, Airprint, and iCloud which is a pretty nice service for those with Macs. I don't think the iPhone is for everyone, but I never have hesitated to recommend them to non-techies. My $0.02.
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Yeah but it doesn't HAVE to degenerate like that, people just enjoy spamming random crap way too much. I don't see the problem with a little honest discussion on the subject.
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I agree that the hardware is impressive but the integration you mention is only fully realized if you're using a Mac; the majority of customers are Windows users and the integration isn't as seamless- if you've ever run iTunes on a Mac and then used it in a Windows OS you know exactly what I mean. Whereas innovations like Play Music and almost every Google/Android gapps is seamlessly integrated and able to be accessed anywhere.
I am most impressed by Apple's incredible PR team and wonder why Google or Samsung isn't trying to hire every member of Apple's PR staff. A good example of the skills of their team: the same megapixel camera we have had on the E4GT for a year (including our panoramic capabilities) is being hyped as an innovative wow factor.

Wait, i have a question since you wanted a discussion.
How can you say blah when you said you have never owned one and what you know is by paper only?
Take this phone for example. How many people are so impressed by white papers but once they get the phone they then say "blah"?...
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thewadegeek said:
I'm still not convinced that Google Now is a match for Siri, to me it's comparing Kiwi and lemons. What makes the iPhone stand out is what has always made it standout, the how noob friendly it is, to us geeks who hack our phones it seems outdated and almost childish, but to users like my mom who just want a simple non-customizable phone that does what they tell it too every time the iPhone is perfect. That's always been what Apple is, magnificent hardware(If slightly behind the curve), dumbed down UI, and the sole focus being user experience out of the box.
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You're absolutely right about it being noob friendly (just wait until they allow the Jitterbug as a provider offering it LOL).
I do like Google Now but find its true value in the notifications and location based things it alerts me about; but the voice based capabilities are strong but IMO, like siri it's more of a cute thing to play with.

We all know how iPhone threads end up. This is about the 341,952 thread I've had to close today. There is an off topic discussion area to chat about the iPhone related topics, as this will go downhill very fast.
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What does woz think about apple vs Sammy verdict

http://androidcommunity.com/steve-wozniak-on-samsung-apple-verdict-i-dont-agree-with-it-20120913/
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Boo hiss apple yada yada.
We're done here.

"He also said that he thinks companies should just share patents with each other, which would allow for the development of the best devices possible"
I thought I was the only one that felt this way... (._." )

SocialReject said:
"He also said that he thinks companies should just share patents with each other, which would allow for the development of the best devices possible"
I thought I was the only one that felt this way... (._." )
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I have a idea, how about we post more Apple/iPhone threads in a Nexus forum.
Seriously, there needs to be a dedicated hate on Apple forum, would definitely clean up these ones.

Should be noted that he uses android not iPhone I wonder why
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He uses both. Galaxy 3 is the flavor of the moment. He uses a lot of phones, including wp7.
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Woz is a class act.
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Woz uses most tech products known to man! I'm on a rather ****e 2g network here so cant link, but google what he carries with him in his backpack... extraordinary sight.
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Woz is an engineer so of course he hates patents. But he doesn't have any expertise in law so what he says about the court proceedings should be taken with a grain of salt.

killyouridols said:
Woz uses most tech products known to man! I'm on a rather ****e 2g network here so cant link, but google what he carries with him in his backpack... extraordinary sight.
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Here is what you were looking for. Yeah, it seems just a little over the top for me. I can't imagine what he does with all that stuff.

pfmiller said:
Here is what you were looking for. Yeah, it seems just a little over the top for me. I can't imagine what he does with all that stuff.
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That's the one. Nah, I can't imagine what the use of all that is but i'd sure like to give it a crack
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Woz is cool, which is more than you can say for most iconic figures. Doesn't need to feed his own ego 24/7 and doesn't care what anyone else thinks.

Doesnt he use all types of phones??

The point is he doesn't use iPhone if at all lol
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donsh00tmesanta said:
The point is he doesn't use iPhone if at all lol
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I don't think that is the point you should take away from the article. He uses everything.

He uses iPhone. I am sure he is a player in design and "copying", but I think its more like these features are good, why doesn't apple try them or improve upon them.
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I too hate patent war...!!
If this continues, its not far that car companies will sue each other for using round tyres.....