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I have all my apps backed up to my sd. But was wondering if i should move them to my card and have them run off the card or device. Also what app would move them all over at one time? Seems like the built in client only does one at a time. Currently i use app control to back them up.
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The SDcard should be slower than the phone storage, so I would keep you most commonly used apis on the internal storage. I really can't imagine why you'd need to move them all off anyway. Where you running out of storage? It probably won't be that noticeable on the G2, but on my old G1 there was a big difference.
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No i got plenty room. I just want to avoid getting a lag on my phone.
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So far I have 114 apps on my g2 internal and no lag at all. This is no g1.
ya i agree - tons of space on the G2. i dont have anything running on SD now. I used to have a bunch running on my SD when I had G1 and even the N1.
if you really do want to though, i run apps like Astro File Manager, and Rock Player on my SD because they call out files on the SD card anyway.
So with 2 gb of storage (is that 2gb on the internal sd? or on the phone?) is APPS2SD worth it? Don't you lose a little speed depending on your card? I'm going with my 16gb class 2 because I wanted more space than my 8gb which is a class 6.
Can someone break down the multi storage?
We got storage on the phone, storage on an internal 'usb' and we got the external sd? how do they work with each other, what holds what for apps, etc.
I don't own one yet. I have to wait until Sunday to get mine for reasons I won't go into here. So I'll answer this as best I can with just my in store observations as I checked this part out thoroughly.
The phone comes with 16gb internal(USB) storage and an SD card slot. Phones with USB storage partition some portion of that USB storage for installing apps and the components of the phones OS. My observation that was of the 16gb internal on the Epic 4G touch, 2GB was in the 'secure' partitioned area for app installation leaving just over 11 GB free in the USB accessible area for putting your own files, camera storage, etc. This tells me that the phone is nabbing ~3GB for the OS and it's internal file system. Of the 2GB in the protected app installation area, there was roughly 1.7GB free.
From Froyo forward the developer had the option adding the ability to move the app to the SD card after you install it. In the case of the 4G touch, I'm not sure if you get the option of picking whether you want to install to the unused(11GB) area of USB storage or to the actual SD card in the microsd slot. I would hope that they give you this option. When you move an app from the internal non accessible app installation area, only a large portion of the app is moved, there is still some portion that remains in this 'protected'(on non rooted phones) app install area, in this example the 2GB partition mentioned earlier.
Eventually even with moving apps to the sd card, this 2gb area will fill up, and not all apps offer the ability to move to the SD card, though more are being updated to add this feature. Though you would have to install a TON of apps(and/or install a lot that don't allow moving to SD card) to fill it.
For example the Epic 4g only has 512MB total ROM for app installation. On my rooted, SRF 1.2(Bloatware removed) Epic 4g before I install apps, I have close to 400MB free in this area. Using the move apps to SD card on all the apps I have that offer it, I have roughly 85 apps installed and still have a little over 100MB free.
Again, your mileage will vary based on the apps and whether they offer to move to SD card. But knowing this and knowing that the 4G touch has 1.7 GB free, you can extrapolate that you will have enough room to install a boatload of apps before space becomes an issue.
HTH
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I don't own one yet. I have to wait until Sunday to get mine for reasons I won't go into here. So I'll answer this as best I can with just my in store observations as I checked this part out thoroughly.
The phone comes with 16gb internal(USB) storage and an SD card slot. Phones with USB storage partition some portion of that USB storage for installing apps and the components of the phones OS. My observation that was of the 16gb internal on the Epic 4G touch, 2GB was in the 'secure' partitioned area for app installation leaving just over 11 GB free in the USB accessible area for putting your own files, camera storage, etc. This tells me that the phone is nabbing ~3GB for the OS and it's internal file system. Of the 2GB in the protected app installation area, there was roughly 1.7GB free.
From Froyo forward the developer had the option adding the ability to move the app to the SD card after you install it. In the case of the 4G touch, I'm not sure if you get the option of picking whether you want to install to the unused(11GB) area of USB storage or to the actual SD card in the microsd slot. I would hope that they give you this option. When you move an app from the internal non accessible app installation area, only a large portion of the app is moved, there is still some portion that remains in this 'protected'(on non rooted phones) app install area, in this example the 2GB partition mentioned earlier.
Eventually even with moving apps to the sd card, this 2gb area will fill up, and not all apps offer the ability to move to the SD card, though more are being updated to add this feature. Though you would have to install a TON of apps(and/or install a lot that don't allow moving to SD card) to fill it.
For example the Epic 4g only has 512MB total ROM for app installation. On my rooted, SRF 1.2(Bloatware removed) Epic 4g before I install apps, I have close to 400MB free in this area. Using the move apps to SD card on all the apps I have that offer it, I have roughly 85 apps installed and still have a little over 100MB free.
Again, your mileage will vary based on the apps and whether they offer to move to SD card. But knowing this and knowing that the 4G touch has 1.7 GB free, you can extrapolate that you will have enough room to install a boatload of apps before space becomes an issue.
HTH
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Thanks for the great explanation. I had a similar rooted setup on my OG Epic. Almost 100 apps and maintained just over 100mb available.
By the way, when you remove the bloatware that you CAN remove (only like 6 apps) you'll be pretty close to 2gb available. However, I've already added all my apps onto my Epic Touch, and still have 1.47gb available for apps. I see no reason to move anything to SD right now, as I assume it slows down just a tad trying to retrieve the apps from the sd. I imagine as I load some upcoming bigger games, I may find the need, but not right now.
I was just discussing this with a buddy on irc. there is absolutely no reason to have a2sd any more. out of the box my phone had 11.8gb of rom free. no way you are going to install ~12gb of apps on your phone. I just reformatted my 32gb sd card and am only using it for storage now. I love this phone.
I tested before formatting my card and when you do use a2sd it goes to the sd card (internal rom) and not the external sd card. at least how it worked for me.
I was struggling with app space memory on my Evo 4G and moved any app I could find to SD (except for Meridian Player -- widgets will not work if you move the app to SD). On my Galaxy Tab, with 2GB or app space, I've loaded a ****load of apps, most of which are games I never play. I haven't moved a single app to SD and I still have 400MB free, or more free app space that the Evo 4G had out of the box. If you're the kind of person that will download and install any app indiscriminately, you may need to start moving some of them to SD. But for typical use, 2GB basically covers it.
There's always link2sd which moves the app,library files and cache to the ext partition you setup on sdcard.
Great for app junkies like myself and the 700+ apps I currently use on my g2x. Can't wait to test it out on my epic 4g touch tomorrow!
The expression on peoples faces when they try to scroll thru all my phones apps is priceless lol
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There's always link2sd which moves the app,library files and cache to the ext partition you setup on sdcard.
Great for app junkies like myself and the 700+ apps I currently use on my g2x. Can't wait to test it out on my epic 4g touch tomorrow!
The expression on peoples faces when they try to scroll thru all my phones apps is priceless lol
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I was just discussing this with a buddy on irc. there is absolutely no reason to have a2sd any more. out of the box my phone had 11.8gb of rom free. no way you are going to install ~12gb of apps on your phone. I just reformatted my 32gb sd card and am only using it for storage now. I love this phone.
I tested before formatting my card and when you do use a2sd it goes to the sd card (internal rom) and not the external sd card. at least how it worked for me.
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I will partially agree with this. If you download something like CoPilot or Sygic GPS nav that uses your device to store maps, this measly 11.8GB will evaporate rather quickly.
Those, you'd definitely WANT to move to SD.
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Lol exactly
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Lol exactly
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How many pages did he go to find this one? Lol
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How many pages did he go to find this one? Lol
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1, I searched
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d12unk13astard said:
There's always link2sd which moves the app,library files and cache to the ext partition you setup on sdcard.
Great for app junkies like myself and the 700+ apps I currently use on my g2x. Can't wait to test it out on my epic 4g touch tomorrow!
The expression on peoples faces when they try to scroll thru all my phones apps is priceless lol
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How can someone possible use 700+ apps on their phone. On sure over half never even get opened.
Hit me up on gtalk @musclehead84
I just like having everything available and seeing peoples reactions when they scroll thru my phone. Link2sd is bo$$ for that reason since regular apps2sd only fits a fraction of my apps/games.
Btw just got my epic 4g loving it!
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ok, so I purchased a Galaxy s3 today. could not move the apps to the ext sd card. So, I rooted it thinking if it was rooted, I would be able to move the files. Still no luck. Why has samsung devised this phone not to be able to move apps to sd card. It is like going back in time to the hero. Is there a work around on this issue?
ICS and JB don't allow moving, I guess that's why phones have more than 1 or 2 gigs now.
It's not Samsung, it's Android.
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ICS and JB don't allow moving, I guess that's why phones have more than 1 or 2 gigs now.
It's not Samsung, it's Android.
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It still allows moving to SD on devices with 2gb or less internal, or a partitioned internal. However internal SD on this device is just a folder on the single partition allowing you to use the entire space for anything from apps-zips and everything in between
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ok, so what is the ext sd card used for? storing pictures and other media files?
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ok, so what is the ext sd card used for? storing pictures and other media files?
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Yea incase u fill ur internal up basically, I tend tto save apps, and pics/vids I've recently taken on internal and roms music and wallpapers and such on external just cuz I can pop out external to transfer from PC faster
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Droidsail from the market. It allows you to force them. Leave widgets
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Droidsail is for rooted only.
My bad. I've been rooted so long that I wrongly assume that everyone else is also
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Been very scared (I guess that's the word) of doing it. Maybe someday I will root!!
Works on the Galaxy S3?
So are you guys saying that Droidsail works on the Galaxy S3?
What option did you use? Internal? SD? Auto?
Thanks
Mike
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Been very scared (I guess that's the word) of doing it. Maybe someday I will root!!
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Don't be sacred. Just be cautious. Check out the stickies. QBKing77 has great easy to follow videos. In addition, if you do have a problem, there are many in this great community willing to help you. Just FOLLOW THE DIRECTIONS COMPLETELY....sorry for raising my voice
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i live by QBKing77's videos. here is the best video to watch to root. He assumes NOTHING and takes you from step one to the finished product.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoEVDgjTTdg&feature=plcp
hope this one helps
using Droidsail, did you find that when you moved your apps that they did continue run properly on the phone?
So no way without rooting?
I have tried rooting but keep getting "Failed to verify whole signature"
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So no way without rooting?
I have tried rooting but keep getting "Failed to verify whole signature"
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droidsail doesnt work
For those who are Rooted. You may want to check out the link below . Been using this for a while. On both the wife's, and my device. Very happy with it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30624655
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It has been my experience that even rooting your SG3 will not allow you the ability to move hour apps to the SD card. If you discover a way to do that and still have them be functional i would love to hear it. Hope this answers your question.
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It has been my experience that even rooting your SG3 will not allow you the ability to move hour apps to the SD card. If you discover a way to do that and still have them be functional i would love to hear it. Hope this answers your question.
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Yes I've found the same thing would love an answer to this problem
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ok, so I purchased a Galaxy s3 today. could not move the apps to the ext sd card. So, I rooted it thinking if it was rooted, I would be able to move the files. Still no luck. Why has samsung devised this phone not to be able to move apps to sd card. It is like going back in time to the hero. Is there a work around on this issue?
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Why do you want your apps moved to the sd card, are you running out of internal memory? I keep all my apps on internal and have my sd card for music and pics. The s3 has enough memory not to have that problem of needing apps moved to sd card. Well that's IMO.
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Just from everything I have read moving apps to sd has caused more issues than anything on the S3. But hey to each his own.
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Partially my fault for not researching jellybean...just read about how smooth it was & didnt expect them to take features away. I recall reading the article about the bs reason saying people confuse the internal & external memory. U would think they wouldve learned from wp7 when they took away sd support & started being like apple. I figured it was bs article. I wasnt even planning on buying a phone but my 4g slide tapped out after a few case less drops. I was just gonna buy another mytouch since theres not much of high end qwerty selection but gn2 note caught my eye.
I was sort of mad too, but around 10gb for apps has been plenty for me when I put everything else on external memory.
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I was sort of mad too, but around 10gb for apps has been plenty for me when I put everything else on external memory.
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Im deleting apps all the time to be able to get new one.
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There has to be a way around this...
It's not that people confuse the memory. The problem is that when an app is put onto your SD card, it cannot sync correctly with the operating system. Therefore, Google is doing what they can to keep users from putting apps onto their SD cards. Hence the lack of the SD slot in Nexus devices.
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It's not that people confuse the memory. The problem is that when an app is put onto your SD card, it cannot sync correctly with the operating system. Therefore, Google is doing what they can to keep users from putting apps onto their SD cards. Hence the lack of the SD slot in Nexus devices.
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u sound like a pr rep lol...im still a android newbie but Ive never have ne problems with apps relating to my sd. If a app/game works best or only on the phones memory most developers ive came have stated up front it even back to my wm days.
I'm pissed at this too. This app2sd and the "no more free tethering" thing is pushing me over the edge to go rooted.
I'll never buy a Nexus because of their flawed philosophy that Google has adopted:
1. Non removable battery.
2. No removable storage. "Everything belongs in the Cloud" I call BS!
I've got a 64 Gb SD card that's somewhat useless if I can't install apps on it. And since only the 16 Gb versions of the Note 2 are in circulation it's very disappointing.
The ship has sailed. Google hates external storage. Don't expect to ever see official OS support for it going forward. It's irritating but reality.
I agree this is total bs. I will not buy another phone that doesnt have external sd. Had an Htc one S and I hated it for that reason. (sense is terrible also)
Hope there's an easy fix soon since I use the GN2 as my table and smartphone now. Didn't have any issues before since I had most games on my N7 but now I'm out of room
There are work arounds. But real fix as of this date.
This is Samsung following Google wishes. I just hope the GN3 will have at least 64gb of internal storage. Then we can use the SD the way Google wants SD cards used. The worst part is that many apps that download media content into your device doesn't allow to save the media content within the extSdCard. That is really annoying. Without being able to use the extSdCard as a media content storage then what does Google expect we use SD cards for?
Samsung is part in fault too. Samsung is well known to put too little storage and main memory into PPC devices. I remember my Samsung Omnia i910. I had to move so many files from the main memory into the storage memory and even into SD card. Then I had to work on other files, like the registry, ini files, etc.. to point to the files I moved. All just to get more space within the main memory for more apps. Windows OS, even Windows Mobile, added major files within the Windows directory every time you install another app that took so much room within the smallest main memory. Samsung is doing similar with GN2. 10gb is barely any room now days with Android.
Samsung needs to lead the pack all the way. SD card, large screen and large capacity of removable battery, 1.6 quad-core, 2gb RAM is not enough to lead the pack all the way. They also need to lead the pack with 1080+ res screen and 64gb+ internal storage memory. I feel that Samsung miss the "leader of the pack" mark with GN2. Samsung needs to realize they are competing against other Androids as well as iPhone.
But the blame starts at Google on app2sd issue.
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want to have more app storage space for your HD games and what not, here’s a simple App2SD script you can use to store all of your apps on your microSD card. *This will essentially swap your internal storage with your microSD card and allow you to use up to 64GB of space (if you use 64GB microSD card).This should work on all the Galaxy Note 2, test on international GT-N7100, T-Mobile SGH-T889, and Sprint SPH-L900.
Step 1. First, you will need a rooted Galaxy Note 2. *This will work on any custom ROMs except CM10 or AOKP.
Step 2. Second, I highly recommend you to format your microSD card before using this. *Also, after formatting you can copy the contents of your internal storage to your microSD card
Step 3. Download the script on your phone: downloadandroidrom.com/file/GalaxyNote2/app2sdNote2
Step 4. Install and open Script Manager app on Play Store.
Step 5. Using Script Manager app, find the app2sd script on your microSD card and enable “SU” and “Boot”. Step 6. Reboot. *You should now see your microSD card used as internal storage and internal storage as microSD card.
Will this work with a rooted phone but with stock rom? How effective is this method?
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I've been running the storage swap script for a couple months now with no issues. I've used it on stock based roms kernel s along with custom ones as well. I'm using a 32GB fat 32 and am not sure if it supports exfat on 64 cards. Go look for it via search. It's in the sgs3 section somewhere. It's truly a lifesaver for us app/game hoarders
Ill look into that i have a 64gb card i would really like to put to use i only have 2gb available after only 4 games, do you have a link don where to get instructions and files?
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This really is more of an issue with app developers not allowing data to be stored on extsdcard. They would only need to pop up a box with options of were to store the large data files. It could look like this:
search device for sdcard implementation (/sdcard, /extsdcard, /sdacard/ext/, etc.)
pop-up box displays radio button with each storage location, really cool deb's would add option for custom location.
Set location to variable, use variable throughout program.
Just my 2 cents, I think that either this needs to occur or google require a set way of implementing internal/external SD cards.
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Root and install Directory Bind
I was disappointed too and only got 1gb left on my internal and have 64 gb almost unused mSD. So I finally decided to root my phone and install Directory Bind.
Working as intended now.
I have a post in the themes & apps forum with an app I found on the market that let's you store your game data onto an sd card.
It's called gl2sd, you can check in that forum (there's a direct link to it), or just search the market.
Not sure it supports exfat, but it's worth a quick look.
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This really is more of an issue with app developers not allowing data to be stored on extsdcard. They would only need to pop up a box with options of were to store the large data files. It could look like this:
search device for sdcard implementation (/sdcard, /extsdcard, /sdacard/ext/, etc.)
pop-up box displays radio button with each storage location, really cool deb's would add option for custom location.
Set location to variable, use variable throughout program.
Just my 2 cents, I think that either this needs to occur or google require a set way of implementing internal/external SD cards.
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Excellent point, friend! You always make good/useful comments and could always use more users like you.:highfive: A few minor points, I do miss move to sd option so the lack of kinda falls in line with this forced move to dropbox, cloud, lack of sd card etc. Oh sh!t don't get me started on the Nextel line these days. I have to say the manufacturers and Google are just as responsible as developers. They're all guilty really lol Besides those poor moves though, Android is doing great. I am so glad I preordered that G1 many moons ago. I guess its all who you ask I guess and sometimes we are stuck in our old ways... even us techies. Fo example, I was really stubborn about qwertys and surprisingly don't miss it. So who knows? It's either we're too stubborn to change or we don't like being told what to do.... maybe both Either way, the storage swap script works flawlessly once you set it up properly. As I mentioned earlier, not sure about 64 exfat but I'm sure you can switch it to fat 32 plus all you cm10 fans will have done this already. Hope that helps some...
I use this app to move big data files to the external sd https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.slf.ListglApp&hl=en
I also use this app to get around the "insufficient storage" error that sometimes occurs https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.buak.Link2SD
Hey all. I currently have a Galaxy S 3with Sprint. I am considering coming over to T-mobile with a note 3. With the GS3 apps couldnt be saved to the sd card. Devs made a work around to trick the phone into thinking the sd storage was onboard storage and the onboard storage was sd storage. Does the Note 3 not allow apps to sde either? If so has this work around been created yet or is it being worked on? Thanks!
For most there is little point since the phone has 32gb of internal storage. The application manager has the ability to move apps to the sdcard if they can be already though.
Keep in mind it only moves the App not the App Data. However there are ways to put App Data on the SD card. I use foldermount in the play store to do just that.
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So I would be able to transfer my music to sd card? Thats my main concern since I have over 30 gigs of music...
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So I would be able to transfer my music to sd card? Thats my main concern since I have over 30 gigs of music...
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I'm assuming by music, you mean your Google Music cache and pinned songs? If so, FolderMount isn't designed for this (I tried once), and you instead need to root your phone, then install the Xposed framework (here on XDA in the dev thread), followed by the Music2SD module (on Google Play). It's a godsend.
((You might as well install the Wanam module while you're at it, but I rank Music2SD above it in terms of importance to me, and is the reason I found and installed Xposed in the first place a couple months ago when Google removed the unofficial external SDCard support.))
Thank me later
They also have the same mod they had for note 2 ext2intsdcard mod that mattiadj created (whenever you get your note 3 just shoot me a pm) and yes the note 3 does allow apps2sd, I have over 500+ apps installed and over 17gb+ left on internal
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