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Unable to move any apps to new SanDisk 64gb class 10 sdcard

I purchased new 64 GB SanDisk class 10 sdcard and inserted in my phone. My phone however will not move any apps to the card and none of the apps I have are able to move its data to the new card.
It seems that Samsung used an internal storage as "sdcard" and the true sdcard is called an "external sdcard" that most applications does not have access to / or is programmed accordingly. Which essentially renders the card useless.
Have anyone came across this problem?
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Yup, same problem here. Hopefully someone will find a way of working around that soon.
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Yup you said it, samsung made a stupid desicion wit that
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keinam.ty said:
I purchased new 64 GB SanDisk class 10 sdcard and inserted in my phone. My phone however will not move any apps to the card and none of the apps I have are able to move its data to the new card.
It seems that Samsung used an internal storage as "sdcard" and the true sdcard is called an "external sdcard" that most applications does not have access to / or is programmed accordingly. Which essentially renders the card useless.
Have anyone came across this problem?
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There's a thread that goes into great detail on this problem in the international gs3 section. It's actually Google who's coding this in now, but alot of manufacturers are using a workaround, but not samsung. The card is pretty much good for music, movies, and any large downloads you may want to transfer there. To my knowledge Cyanogenmod & possibly AOKP still work the way it should, but touchwiz based roms will not. There is an app somewhere on XDA that will allow you to store large data files for games to the sd, but again, I believe it's in the i9300 forum. I hope this will help you some.
Edit: check out xda tv on YouTube, and there's a recent video from the new girl Erica where she covers some type of work around for the gs3 I think?

Thanks, that almost sounds like it's better to root? Touch Wiz isn't that bad but I am not a fan of it. Samsung was nice to let us disable all bloatware but making the sd card useless is really idiotic. I almost want to say what's the point of the scared then?
I'll do ssome more research on this thanks.
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If the app has separate data downloads try this for me, move the data to the external sd card, delete data and app from the internal sd card. redownload app and see if it recognizes the data on the external card. I mad copies as back up of a few big meg data downloads on the external card. I did an odin recovery, when I downloaded the apps again they found the data on their own on the external card.

stevessvt said:
If the app has separate data downloads try this for me, move the data to the external sd card, delete data and app from the internal sd card. redownload app and see if it recognizes the data on the external card. I mad copies as back up of a few big meg data downloads on the external card. I did an odin recovery, when I downloaded the apps again they found the data on their own on the external card.
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An interesting thought, I can definitively move data to external card – I’ll try this tonight and report back. Thought even if this works it still isn’t a solution.
For example;
1. Many backup applications hardcode the SDCard’s location which in this case it always will be internal memory
2. Navigation data gets downloaded into internal memory
3. Google music gets downloaded into internal memory, I could not find any option to move it – its simply unavailable.
4. I don’t have to move all apps to the external card, but the few games/apps stored in the external card sounds like a good idea sine those are not essential for me (especially the once with lots of storage requirements).
5. Any podcasts / videos also won’t go to the external storage
6. Some applications lets you backup their settings like preferences RSS lists etc – all those also go to internal memory.
In my opinion the following must happen:
1. “All developers” must update their applications to accommodate for S3’s changed card location
2. Google must update its code and allow apps / data move to external card.
I’ll call t-mobile to see whatever they have to say about this.

I spoke to t-mobile and was told I can return the phone if I don't like it. Essentially the SD card is “useless” and according to T-Mobile’s rep only works with pictures and videos – the phone is sold as is. Apparently they know nothing about this and never heard of any plans for a fix.
They also gave me phone number to Samsung’s support which I’ll call tonight and report back.
I wonder how that works after the phone is rooted with custom ROM. Has anyone tried this? Please let me know if you did….

If your going to return it, simply use Odin to go back to factory fresh stock.

I think this is a push for more of us to use cloud storage which is cool but I like using physical sd card for storage..
I'm having to make do with my 16gb internal as games get bigger and eat up storage. My 64gb is almost useless if I had known this I would have gotten like a 32gb card and saved some cash.
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But don't return this phone. It's still legendary!
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I agree, this phone is FAN-FUKING-TRAGIC.. Best phone by far. Ummm, how do we use the cloud to store stuff though? And could we use it to move apps and free up space? Sorry if my questions are dumb to some, just not sure what the cloud is
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Did you try doing what I said?

The cloud is pretty much a usb stick u don't have to carry around with you. You can't store installed apps there but you can store anything else on it like apks to install later music, docs. Pretty much anything you would store on a usb.
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@ stevessvt Yes I have but it did not work - I am pretty sure I screwed something up 
I don’t think I will be returning this phone, there isn’t anything better on T-Mobile unfortunately and S3 has better specs then Latest Nexus. Now I think I will research about S3 rooting and whether it makes sense to root this phone and put custom ROM on it.
Thanks everyone!

This isn't Samsungs doing, it's how Google has made android from ics on. Other manufacturers that make their phones able to install apps on your external sd are using a workaround by modifying the code, but I've read that it's really not ideal? If your using titanium backup to keep your apps backed up then you need to run a backup. Then go into your internal sd & move the TB folder to your external sd. Go back into titanium backup & select preferences from the settings menu. There select backup folder location & hit the Detect button. Now your backups should go to external storage.
You can also go under settings in the stock Web browser & change your download location to external so that large roms download to external sd. If your using the new version of twrp for the Tmo gs3 that they released today, then you can check the box under backup that says backup to external. That will also save room on your internal storage.
Personally I prefer all of my apps on internal. They open faster & write data much faster to internal then to an sd card. I really only use my sd card for holding movies, backups, & large file downloads. As I stated in my previous post, AOKP & Cyanogenmod still can install apps to sd if that's what you prefer. I honestly think we should be able to choose for ourselves, but unfortunately I don't make the rules. If you look in the international section I read a thread somewhere that had an app that will let you store the large data files from games on your external storage. That's the only apps that really take up a significant amount of space. Music can take up a lot of space, but with Google play music keeping 20gb of music in the cloud for you, that shouldn't be much of an issue to those of us who are in good coverage areas. I hope this helped some of you to maximize your storage space.

Just a friendly advice...T-Mobile is the last place you want to go for any answers. The people who work there (most, not all) are complete stupid over the top freakin' idiots. They know nothing and often times just search their data base or google something for answers. Most 99.9% do not have any first hand knowledge of anything about phones. They just know the same $#!t you can read off the box....
Complete idiots..
Anyhow, just hang tight as I'm sure there will be work around this in the very near future. It's not a big deal at all.... just do what fellow member: stevessvt said...it works....
Good luck!
keinam.ty said:
I spoke to t-mobile and was told I can return the phone if I don't like it. Essentially the SD card is “useless” and according to T-Mobile’s rep only works with pictures and videos – the phone is sold as is. Apparently they know nothing about this and never heard of any plans for a fix.
They also gave me phone number to Samsung’s support which I’ll call tonight and report back.
I wonder how that works after the phone is rooted with custom ROM. Has anyone tried this? Please let me know if you did….
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I don't see how you can fill 16gb with just applications anytime soon
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es7241 said:
I don't see how you can fill 16gb with just applications anytime soon
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Games and some utilities apps, my iPhone was 32 gb after 6 months I had 3 gb left and only 1gb of music
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Let me first off apologize for getting a lil off topic with this question, however, I Just got the SGS3 (which by the way is the GREATEST PHONE EVER MADE!!! If God or Allah or Buda or whatever higher up, power that be owned a phone... It would be this one. LOL) OK, back on track now. So I'm coming from an HTC phone and I have a TON of bookmarks stored on my browser that I want to transfer over to my new phone. My question is, where can I find my browsers bookmarks using file explorer so that I can zip it up in a file to send to my phones browser? Or is there a better, easier way to do this??
Please help
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[Q] How to transfer apps 2 sd on Galaxy S3?

I just upgraded from the S2 and on that phone it was possible to have apps on SD card.. But on my S3 there is option in settings at all.. Does anyone know a way to do this? Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

pinkcandygirlx said:
I just upgraded from the S2 and on that phone it was possible to have apps on SD card.. But on my S3 there is option in settings at all.. Does anyone know a way to do this? Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
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Yup no longer an option while stock. Have a read here to see if this is something you may be interested in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1849861

evoer said:
Yup no longer an option while stock. Have a read here to see if this is something you may be interested in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1849861
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Oh root is the only option to fix it? I'm kinda afraid to void my warranty

Don't be scared... come on over to the dark side. Seriously though, do some reading to see if it is for you. There are ways to root and unroot, this might be a good place to start looking
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1726558

evoer said:
Don't be scared... come on over to the dark side. Seriously though, do some reading to see if it is for you. There are ways to root and unroot, this might be a good place to start looking
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1726558
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YES! Come join us on the root side, everything is better XD
Additionally to evoer's suggestion, you can also check Link2Sd which is a free app that allows you to move selected apps to the extSdcard. Root is also need for this app to work, so yeah root it! You must partition your sd to have one part FAT32 and one part ext4 partition. There are free apps for that floating around that'll work on PC, not sure if the current custom recoveries have this integrated. I know back in the EVO OG days we were able to partition directly in recovery.
Warning - before partitioning, you must back up everything in the sdcard to you PC since this will format you sdcard.
As for rooting, if you take that road, go this thread found in the Android Development section. It's a tool created by Senior moderator/Recognized developer mskip. Read through the OP and some pages before attempting this. But this is on of the most straight forward and easiest methods available.

Really good instructions too
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5idWFrLkxpbmsyU0QiXQ..

I can look into this but let a pro root it if thats what i decide to do. Thanks
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I dont know bout the Dark Side, but the Rooted side definietly!!!, It isnt hard to root and flash roms, just takes careful reading thats all.
Im now sporting my new GS3 16 gig using Phantoms Blaze Rom with the extsd2internalsd GS3 64g class10 mobile, internal 16 gig ext.
worked like a charm. Their are some issues where some apps install the app and data into the real internal memory but noting too big, Atleast thats the prob im having. Good thing i didnt spent 400 bucks for the 64 GS3 im a happy camper with this mod.

pinkcandygirlx said:
I can look into this but let a pro root it if thats what i decide to do. Thanks
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Just my opinion but if you choose to root it, do it yourself. That way if anything ever does mess up, you can figure out how to fix it on your own instead of going on one of the forums saying "help my friend rooted my phone and now everything is force closing, what do I do?!?".
It really isn't as complicated as it seems, so long as you follow all instructions and there are many here to help of you get stuck and can't find a solution to a problem. However, a decision only you can make if it is worth it. There is always a small chance of a brick. I've done it before but only cause I was a idiot and flashed an international s3 version ROM when rooting my Sprint galaxy s3
I rooted my LG optimus way back so that I could remove T-Mobile bloatware since the phone was crap anyway. Since then, I always root and have become a flashaholic (although wicked sensations v1.1 is keeping me grounded for a bit ). I'm slowly learning thanks to all the great info here, I was all proud of myself for modifying my mms.apk last week and recompiling it with no issues I still have way more to learn but once you start it is like an addiction. Lol.
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Solution
GL to SD ( playstore )

evoer said:
Yup no longer an option while stock. Have a read here to see if this is something you may be interested in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1849861
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Worked like a charm..!!! Good lookin out..!:laugh:

pinkcandygirlx said:
I just upgraded from the S2 and on that phone it was possible to have apps on SD card.. But on my S3 there is option in settings at all.. Does anyone know a way to do this? Any tips would be greatly appreciated.
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Pardon my ignorance but why would you need to move any apps 2 sd card? I mean I have a S3 16GB with a 32GB card added to it and I have about 70+ apps installed on the 16GB card and I still haven't reached 50% of the memory on the phone....

CR1T1C4L718 said:
Pardon my ignorance but why would you need to move any apps 2 sd card? I mean I have a S3 16GB with a 32GB card added to it and I have about 70+ apps installed on the 16GB card and I still haven't reached 50% of the memory on the phone....
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Games and such take up a ton of space. For example NOVA 2 downloads 2 GB of content. Theres also music, videos, etc
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CNexus said:
Games and such take up a ton of space. For example NOVA 2 downloads 2 GB of content. Theres also music, videos, etc
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I don't think there is any need for these kinds off apps/hacks anymore. The original EVO and other androids had horrible memory issues. They were trying to get by with 512MB to 1GB for both the system files and the apps. The big apps like NOVA etc only have a small piece on the ROM portion of the memory. The rest is on the internal or external SD card. So there's no need.
Granted I have the 32GB version with an additional 3GB SD card only because I had it from my EVO days. Most people don't need that much space.

Jimmy_Jo said:
I don't think there is any need for these kinds off apps/hacks anymore. The original EVO and other androids had horrible memory issues. They were trying to get by with 512MB to 1GB for both the system files and the apps. The big apps like NOVA etc only have a small piece on the ROM portion of the memory. The rest is on the internal or external SD card. So there's no need.
Granted I have the 32GB version with an additional 3GB SD card only because I had it from my EVO days. Most people don't need that much space.
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Using Link2SD, I get a failure to move due to insufficient space. I have a 16gb SD, with 14gb allotted to FAT32 and 2GB allotted to ext2. Any ideas?

workingmomjd said:
Using Link2SD, I get a failure to move due to insufficient space. I have a 16gb SD, with 14gb allotted to FAT32 and 2GB allotted to ext2. Any ideas?
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Right now CyanogenMod is giving me problems. The "best" app Link2SD won't work. It says it will not work with my device. Maybe i'll downgrade to stable cm 10...

Jimmy_Jo said:
I don't think there is any need for these kinds off apps/hacks anymore. The original EVO and other androids had horrible memory issues. They were trying to get by with 512MB to 1GB for both the system files and the apps. The big apps like NOVA etc only have a small piece on the ROM portion of the memory. The rest is on the internal or external SD card. So there's no need.
Granted I have the 32GB version with an additional 3GB SD card only because I had it from my EVO days. Most people don't need that much space.
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Nandroids and roms also take up a lot of space, and some apps save enourmous amounts of data as well, cache is also another biggy
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[Q] Note II - Apps2sd Issue

I have a Note II (Sprint) and i recently purchased a class 10 64GB Sd card, i rooted my phone and followed Galaxynote2root video on youtube (i can't post link but it's the one about apps2sd) https:// www youtube.com/watch?v=QUF7R0mmk00
It did work, it's showing that i have at least 59GB on my "Internal" and my REAL internal is now showing up as SD with 700mbs.
The Problem: While it shows that i have a lot of space, anything i download is going straight to internal (real) not the 64GB card.
What i want be able to do: - To take all my apps/files from my internal drive and move them to the 64GB SD card
- Have any files i download/install go directly to 64GB SD card
I purchased Titanium backup but it's not moving the files to SD it says it moved but storage app is not counting
I'm so confused if anyone has the time to help me i will greatly appreciate it.

Google in all their wisdom removed app2Sd in Android 4.0 and up. This is why we need a 32 and 64 version off this phone. Make sure your titanium backup defaults to your external as well as the camera to save internal space.

kronium said:
Google in all their wisdom removed app2Sd in Android 4.0 and up. This is why we need a 32 and 64 version off this phone. Make sure your titanium backup defaults to your external as well as the camera to save internal space.
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I know this isn't the ideal solution, but can we at least move the large Data or Obb files onto the extSD card and then move them back when we want to play the game (Like Asphalt 7 and Dark Knight)?

jconway1968 said:
I know this isn't the ideal solution, but can we at least move the large Data or Obb files onto the extSD card and then move them back when we want to play the game (Like Asphalt 7 and Dark Knight)?
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Sadly no. I've not been able to use any kind of apps to do this.
Between Google Music cache, google maps/earth cache, tumbler cache, Bard's Tale, and Asphalt 7 that's using up almost 9gb of space on the internal "card" partition. It's crazy that the Evo3D could easily move apps/data to the SDCard but we've taken such a huge step back with this flaw.

kronium said:
Google in all their wisdom removed app2Sd in Android 4.0 and up. This is why we need a 32 and 64 version off this phone. Make sure your titanium backup defaults to your external as well as the camera to save internal space.
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Huh? There was apps2sd in 3rd party ics builds for my evo4g. It will probably take some time to port it to the various N2 ROMs unless there is some overpowering technical reason for it bot working. N2 is still new and young and devs are still getting the hang of it. Stock OTA might not ever get it but who stays at stock?
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Skripka said:
Huh? There was apps2sd in 3rd party ics builds for my evo4g. It will probably take some time to port it to the various N2 ROMs unless there is some overpowering technical reason for it bot working. N2 is still new and young and devs are still getting the hang of it. Stock OTA might not ever get it but who stays at stock?
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In the Play Store description on apps2sd the developer specifically lists the Galaxy Note 2 as a device which is NOT compatible. :crying:, not happy about that one either. Cause with the potential of this device and its display I want to d/l kick ass games but can't plug up my internal storage when I have a perfectly good class 10 32Gb SD card!
The only fix for this to my knowledge at this time(which my knowledge about moving apps to the sd card is not extensive at the moment. I have done a little research. ) the only solution at the time is an available script. Which I saw on Galaxynote2root.com as well. But I am personally not familiar enough with the method nor how it may interact with a custom ROM therefore I am personally waiting for either a clearer description of the process or a different method all together.
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I got it guys!
Okay
The video teaches you how to flip your SDcard for the Internal, so the phone thinks you are installing on the internal but it's actually the SD (CONFUSING LOL) So when i went to titanium pro, i was super confused with the whole "Move to SD" i didn't know if it was moving to SD or the Internal since i flipped it was all super confusing to me i'm new to android, i've had an iPhone since the first one and decided to get a Note II about a week ago.
So what i did was just deleted all my apps, followed the video and installed all the apps again from the play store and it went to the 64GB card!!! So yay :highfive:
Apps/games run great not even lag at all, camera/videos save to 64GB so i'm really happy.

Careful with that card. Definitely not as reliable as internal memory. Especially if your taxing it with everyday constant use .

I just ran into this issue, no space at all! I just realized that my titanium had been installing to my internal.
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Tw1sted247 said:
In the Play Store description on apps2sd the developer specifically lists the Galaxy Note 2 as a device which is NOT compatible. :crying:, not happy about that one either. Cause with the potential of this device and its display I want to d/l kick ass games but can't plug up my internal storage when I have a perfectly good class 10 32Gb SD card!
The only fix for this to my knowledge at this time(which my knowledge about moving apps to the sd card is not extensive at the moment. I have done a little research. ) the only solution at the time is an available script. Which I saw on Galaxynote2root.com as well. But I am personally not familiar enough with the method nor how it may interact with a custom ROM therefore I am personally waiting for either a clearer description of the process or a different method all together.
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Cry no more... This worked for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262&highlight=note+2
Jusy make sure you read all the posts.
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jconway1968 said:
Cry no more... This worked for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262&highlight=note+2
Jusy make sure you read all the posts.
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Not all 105 pages though right?
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Subiegsr said:
Not all 105 pages though right?
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At least the first several... and this one for sure...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34291347&postcount=1001
Good luck and don't forget to hit the thanks button if I help you...
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jconway1968 said:
At least the first several... and this one for sure...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34291347&postcount=1001
Good luck and don't forget to hit the thanks button if I help you...
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Says I don't have enough space to install wtf
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[Q] How do I do moves apps to sd?

Hello all! Ive done some research and still am not completely understanding the partition thing. I downloaded an app that was called app2sd (I think that was the name) but it says unable to do so because of a patch that was needed. Can someone explain specifically the process. What is the partition and what about this patch thing? lol sorry but I knew just enough to use the toolkit to root my phone and now id like to benefit from it. Thanks to all who help.
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Well from the research I've done after no replies here. They have resulted in the ultimate answer being is yes you can move apps to SD, BUT it takes a process that I don't think I'd be able to do. You have to "fool" your note 2 into thinking that your SD is your internal memory and I don't want to mess things up. If someone has an easy, easy way to do this please let me know. Until then I will just wait til 4.3 update which hopefully apps to SD will be integrated with that update. The S4 in Germany has it, Shortly others shall follow. Well maybe not shortly but eventually haha.
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There's an app called folder mount that works with high data games.
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+1 on FolderMount. It's different from Apps2SD. I suggest installing My Drives. It'll help find the files that are big storage hogs.
The problem is how Android setups up the memory because of the ability to have multiple profiles.
I haven't personally tried it on the GN2, but you could tired the function Convert to System App. Maybe through that you can move an app to the SD card.
Not that they all do, but I find the two biggest storage hogs are games and videos. Videos are easily moved. Well, nandroids are too.

That is what's eating up most my memory is videos and pictures. I eventually change it over to where my pics and vids were stored on my sd card but that was after my internal memory was almost all gone. Im just going to get drop box on my computer and store them there so I can erase them on my phone to free the memory. The only reason I didn't want to do that before is because my cpu is 3 4 years old and slow. so I hate getting on it. Ill just suck it up and do it. Thanks guys.

If you set up a google+ account you can use it the same way as drop box and you can also get picasa Web, the cool thing about them is Thayer all free unlike drop box
Give it a try I think that's the best route and you can upload from your phone.
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Thanks ya'll and I've got drop box on my CPU now and it is free...for what I'm using it for anyway.
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KitKat causing SD card problems - woah intentional?

This has got to be the worst move ever made by Google (and I'm a Google fanboy). Makes me frustrated. Samsung is one of the only companies providing micro sd card slots, and now this comes and screws that up. What can you even do with a micro sd card now besides read it...?!
Here is the article: http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/65841
Leibeck explains what this means to users, writing,
“If your device has user-accessible internal flash storage, your SD Card is a “secondary external storage device”.
What this means is that with KitKat, applications will no longer be able create, modify, or remove files and folders on your external SD card. As a for-instance, you can no longer use a file manager to copy files from your computer to the SD card over a network. This ability, which has existed since the beginning of Android, has been taken away.”
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Mystery? said:
This has got to be the worst move ever made by Google (and I'm a Google fanboy). Makes me frustrated. Samsung is one of the only companies providing micro sd card slots, and now this comes and screws that up. What can you even do with a micro sd card now besides read it...?!
Here is the article: http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/65841
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This is horrible.....shame on google

I'll be waiting. No need to rush in and be an early adopter. I wonder how the S5 is handling this/going to.

Google mess it up on purpose, to force people to use their cloud services and be bombarded by their advertising, that's how they make money and their official explanation to improve security is so lame. Anyhow, hopefully Samsung will fix it sooner or later, or you can root it and fix it yourself, loosing warranty in the process. I took the high road and will not update, until a) it's all fixed or b) my warranty runs out and won't care about Knox at all.
Google gets on my nerves lately, first they messed up new maps update (at least I got option to stay on old version for now) and now this.

rosedog said:
I'll be waiting. No need to rush in and be an early adopter. I wonder how the S5 is handling this/going to.
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So should I not up date the software.
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Google changed it because a lot of folks were having their app data store on the sdcard, which later on caused stability issues with the apps loading. Some resulted in FCs, crashes etc etc. So in order to increase stability, and possibly even security in Android, Google made the move to allow on app data to be stored internally. You can store and do whatever else you want to do on the sdcard like storing music, photos, other files etc etc. App data can no longer be stored on external...
Personally I don't mind, the Note 3 comes with 32GB minimum... That's plenty for me....

Pajar0913 said:
So should I not up date the software.
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I hear ya. 32gb is more than I need.. makes a lot of sense to do it that way.
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I am not sure I understand correctly. I read the above link also.
When I go to my application manager I can still move apps to SD card?

okay, so I take a picture. The photo is not saved on the sd card?

Exfex21 said:
okay, so I take a picture. The photo is not saved on the sd card?
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I'm guessing it is going to be under your stock gallery app and it's saving to your device.
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Limeybastard said:
I am not sure I understand correctly. I read the above link also.
When I go to my application manager I can still move apps to SD card?
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Yes, you can still move some apps to the SD card.
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Pajar0913 said:
I'm guessing it is going to be under your stock gallery app and it's saving to your device.
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I still can go to settings and change to save the pictures to the SD card. It's the app data, not pictures that you can't move to an SD card.

These SD card problems are a super-dealbreaker for me, does anyone know a way (via root or whatever) to revert kitkat to previous SD card behaviors? If not, I'm going to have to revert back to Jelly Bean.

jax omen said:
These SD card problems are a super-dealbreaker for me, does anyone know a way (via root or whatever) to revert kitkat to previous SD card behaviors? If not, I'm going to have to revert back to Jelly Bean.
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If you're rooted there is a fix. it's in the kitkat qa thread in the dev section. Seems to work fine.

itsmikeramsay said:
Google changed it because a lot of folks were having their app data store on the sdcard, which later on caused stability issues with the apps loading. Some resulted in FCs, crashes etc etc. So in order to increase stability, and possibly even security in Android, Google made the move to allow on app data to be stored internally. You can store and do whatever else you want to do on the sdcard like storing music, photos, other files etc etc. App data can no longer be stored on external...
Personally I don't mind, the Note 3 comes with 32GB minimum... That's plenty for me....
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Why not force apps to be defaulted to internal unless user unchecks that option for people using developers menu and/or root. Sort of like force gpu rendering option.