Lost root and no usb cable - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

I flashed the most recent TBASGSIII 2.0 ROM. (FF18 stockish tw ROM with agats kernel/recovery).
I was installing my apps setting up my bootanimation and removing garbage and think i removed/disabled the wrong thing.
Programs are acting like they have no root access. Cant quickboot or remount /system. Mobil Odin cant recognize device to flash gb kernel to restore nandroid.
Im visiting with the inlaws and have no usb cable. I have a laptop, wifi, kies, and my E4GT as my only tools for survival.
I have no way to recover from a brick except to reactivate my HTC Hero (epic fail).
My most recent nandroids are all ICS using agats recovery to backup. Im not sure if its safe to restore using even his safe recovery or if that will even fix my issue.
Last things i remember doing before this were flashing a boot animation zip, replacing the boot animation and sound files in system, and disabled a couple apps (talk, task, not sure).
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You must have deleted super user
Try flashing su.zip
Also mobile Odin needs root access so you can't use it
But you can use odin
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gtuansdiamm said:
You must have deleted super user
Try flashing su.zip
Also mobile Odin needs root access so you can't use it
But you can use odin
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Can u link su.zip or post i can get it from? I cant get xda app to load for some reason.
Superuser app shows binaries are installed, but cant gain root access to update them.
Is it safe to nandroid restore with agats kernel/recovery?

feyrune said:
Can u link su.zip or post i can get it from? I cant get xda app to load for some reason.
Superuser app shows binaries are installed, but cant gain root access to update them.
Is it safe to nandroid restore with agats kernel/recovery?
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As long as you can still get to CWM this should do the trick for you. Flash it in CWM, reboot your phone, and you should be good to go.
http://db.tt/UaGGdxzc
Good luck!
PS - Restoring a nandroid from Agat's recovery is completely safe.

Agats had proven to be safe for me. I have flawlessly backed up and restored using it. Even wiping everything works. Just make sure you don't wipe after you restore if your recovery isn't agat's... YOU WILL BRICK HARD. If you did a nandroid, Agat's should save you.
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Thank you all. I did eventually make it home and odined to el28 and restored from there to be sure.
Im glad that agat's kernel is safe for recovering too. Definitely loving the green menu, too
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Superuser problems

I get the following message every time I try to update my super user binary:
"incapable of updating your su binary since it is installed in /sbin. This is not an error in the updater, it is an error on the behalf of your ROM or kernel developer. You can continue to use superuser with your outdated binary. "
Any ideas?
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Ar318307 said:
I get the following message every time I try to update my super user binary:
"incapable of updating your su binary since it is installed in /sbin. This is not an error in the updater, it is an error on the behalf of your ROM or kernel developer. You can continue to use superuser with your outdated binary. "
Any ideas?
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I tried that super user fix in the market but that was a no. I had to flash a different ROM.
Sent from the future.
Problem is, I can't flash any ROSE or even make a nandroid backup due to this.
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*ROMS. Damn autocorrect.
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Try and Flash this, before you try another Rom
I got it from the Loskernel Post by Chris41g
http://downloads.androidsu.com/superuser/su-3.0.5-efgh-signed.zip
http://www.forums.acsyndicate.net/showthread.php/3167-KERNEL-ODIN-Stock-Pulled-Repacked-with-CWM5
No luck. For some reason I can't flash it through recovery since it doesn't even show up.
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For some reason Recovery will only show me my external SD. Imoved the file to my external and tried to flash but got the same error. Idk what's going on.
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did you try the autoroot sticky?? That should get you root which is what your looking for
Ar318307 said:
For some reason Recovery will only show me my external SD. Imoved the file to my external and tried to flash but got the same error. Idk what's going on.
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xlGmanlx said:
did you try the autoroot sticky?? That should get you root which is what your looking for
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Yeah you should gives this a shoot as well, but my question is, what kernel are you running then? i can see this zip, external or internal.
The kernel is 2.6.35.7
I originally rooted through ( http://epic4gtouchroot.com/).
Haven't tried autoroot since I don't have a computer available at the moment.
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Ok, I seem to have noticed a possible culprit, I've got ROM Manager Premium and have flashed a custom recovery, however, whenever I try to flash into Clockwork (from the app itself and by holding up+home+power) on my phone instead of taking me to Clockwork it takes me to Android system recovery instead. Any ideas?
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Ok, I seem to have noticed a possible culprit, I've got ROM Manager Premium and have flashed a custom recovery, however, whenever I try to flash into Clockwork (from the app itself and by holding up+home+power) on my phone instead of taking me to Clockwork it takes me to Android system recovery instead. Any ideas?
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Odin a kernel that has CWM in it. I believe there is only one kernel supported by ROM Manager so far and I haven't even tried to go that route to confirm it yet.
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I was thinking of going back to stock tomorrow, then auto rooting. Will that work?
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Restoring back to nandroid.

I'm on cyanogenmod 10 beta 3 and wanted to go back to AOKP Milestone 6 but I'm having problems with superuser (and therefore cant use mobile odin) so I was wondering if I could just restore my nandroid back to EL26 via the JB recovery mode and then flash the aokp ROM through that recovery like normal? Or would that not work/brick my phone?
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Bump, really need some input on this. Any help is appreciated. thanks.
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Safe bet as I had the same issue: use sfhub one click to go back to el29 w root, then one click root to el26 cwm access and then you're good to go. Just make sure whatever road u take it leads you to el26 cwm by chris41g.
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dante32278 said:
Safe bet as I had the same issue: use sfhub one click to go back to el29 w root, then one click root to el26 cwm access and then you're good to go. Just make sure whatever road u take it leads you to el26 cwm by chris41g.
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I don't really have a PC at my disposal at the moment though is my biggest problem :/ which is why I was asking if restoring back to my nandroid back up via JB recovery would be safe?
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dante32278 said:
Safe bet as I had the same issue: use sfhub one click to go back to el29 w root, then one click root to el26 cwm access and then you're good to go. Just make sure whatever road u take it leads you to el26 cwm by chris41g.
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Hey, quick question.I'm just trying to do some reading about safety and such, and came across your post. Wouldn't it be safe to JUST Odin EL26 CWM alone? Without going back to EL29 first? Is that necessary? Again, not being a smartass and trying to call you out, I'm just really trying to get a hold on what is safe, or not, and procedures.
vinscuzzy said:
Hey, quick question.I'm just trying to do some reading about safety and such, and came across your post. Wouldn't it be safe to JUST Odin EL26 CWM alone? Without going back to EL29 first? Is that necessary? Again, not being a smartass and trying to call you out, I'm just really trying to get a hold on what is safe, or not, and procedures.
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That's exactly what you should do.
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Well the main issue is it seems he lost root access....just saying its safest to start fresh. Only takes 10 extra minutes. If he had root he would've been able to just mobile Odin el26 like he stated, but its not an option.
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dante32278 said:
Well the main issue is it seems he lost root access....just saying its safest to start fresh. Only takes 10 extra minutes. If he had root he would've been able to just mobile Odin el26 like he stated, but its not an option.
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Exactly. That's the problem I'm having, which is why I'm asking if (since i dont have a pc to use) It would be smart and safe to just restore my nandroid (which is el26 with root and cwm) from the JB recovery (cwm6) and then just flash my original ROM through el26 cwm.
Anyone think this is safe?
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organizedConfoosion said:
Exactly. That's the problem I'm having, which is why I'm asking if (since i dont have a pc to use) It would be smart and safe to just restore my nandroid (which is el26 with root and cwm) from the JB recovery (cwm6) and then just flash my original ROM through el26 cwm.
Anyone think this is safe?
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It sounds safe, both are quoted as being safe recoveries. I even restored a nand from a broken phone onto my replacement one yesterday so I'm sure what you're doing is far less risky. Its the wiping in non-safe recoveries that caused bricks, you should be OK as long as you don't do something stupid like pull the battery during the restore.
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dante32278 said:
It sounds safe, both are quoted as being safe recoveries. I even restored a nand from a broken phone onto my replacement one yesterday so I'm sure what you're doing is far less risky. Its the wiping in non-safe recoveries that caused bricks, you should be OK as long as you don't do something stupid like pull the battery during the restore.
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Someone else told me that even while restoring a nandroid backup, it still wipes data, so if you're on an unsafe kernel, it still can brick. Just so everyone knows, I was on a safe kernel when I bricked mine. Apparently there was a mis-merge that happened that caused the safe kernel to be unsafe for a few days. I was very unlucky, but its one of the risks we all take when doing this. I'm planning on odin-ing el26 kernel whenever I need recovery from here on out!
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It sounds safe, both are quoted as being safe recoveries. I even restored a nand from a broken phone onto my replacement one yesterday so I'm sure what you're doing is far less risky. Its the wiping in non-safe recoveries that caused bricks, you should be OK as long as you don't do something stupid like pull the battery during the restore.
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vinscuzzy said:
Someone else told me that even while restoring a nandroid backup, it still wipes data, so if you're on an unsafe kernel, it still can brick. Just so everyone knows, I was on a safe kernel when I bricked mine. Apparently there was a mis-merge that happened that caused the safe kernel to be unsafe for a few days. I was very unlucky, but its one of the risks we all take when doing this. I'm planning on odin-ing el26 kernel whenever I need recovery from here on out!
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Thank you both for the replies. I guess I'll go ahead and try the nandroid restore.
Wish me luck haha. Hopefully this recovery is as stable as people have been saying lately.
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organizedConfoosion said:
Thank you both for the replies. I guess I'll go ahead and try the nandroid restore.
Wish me luck haha. Hopefully this recovery is as stable as people have been saying lately.
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Just thought of something: if you lost root, how do you still have a custom recovery? You may want to wait til ur near a PC to do el26 flash!
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No idea but I can boot into CWM just fine, its just superuser won't give me root access. I even tried to do the su binary update and nothing.
I'm not flashing El26, I'm just restoring to my nandroid backup which is el26.
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organizedConfoosion said:
No idea but I can boot into CWM just fine, its just superuser won't give me root access. I even tried to do the su binary update and nothing.
I'm not flashing El26, I'm just restoring to my nandroid backup which is el26.
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OK well good luck and let us know how it goes! Fingers crossed....
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I ended up not restoring, and found a way to fix my root access. Thanks all for the input though everyone!
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I know this Is a simple question,

I just flashed the fh13 ota zip which has the normal stock recovery and I want to try flashing agat's kernel/recovery but last time I tried to flash the FI03 ROM and agat's tFI03 kernel my phone wouldn't boot. I tried both the .tar and .zip and my phone just hung at the 4g splashscreen. I was able to use my backup to restore back to a working setup. But with the stock recovery i no longer have that option obviously so what options do i have to cover my ass if something goes wrong?
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Never mind i just wasn't putting two and two together if jay or any other admin want to delete this go ahead
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TW rom issue!

Hi everytime I flash an tw rom on first boot everything works perfectly but as soon as I reboot I get this error phone.android.com has stopped and it keeps doing it so force closing each 15 seconds..
I tried to reflash whit a full wipe various times different tw roms but it still happens??
Also while im at it dont feel like opening another thread I have cwm6 touch the latest and during a nandroid backup it says backup of /data has failed some sort of error ....
I really want to go back to tw tired of aosp any ideas?
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Wipe everything and odin flash the root66 firmware. Start over from full stock rooted, but clean.
Run your nandroid again and write down the error. (Save log to sd).
Seems to me there is some corrupted data getting left behind. I'd format the external sd as well. But at least backup and delete the Android folder. (Contains 2 folders inside, data and obb). You can rename to Android-bak if you prefer. Do this before wiping and flashing root66.
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Thing is I don't really have access to a laptop anymore and it's really hard I could use mobile odin I guess but this all started since I started using cwm touch might first try to go back to non touch cwm but the process will certainly require a reboot which again will give me force closes...
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shahkam said:
Thing is I don't really have access to a laptop anymore and it's really hard I could use mobile odin I guess but this all started since I started using cwm touch might first try to go back to non touch cwm but the process will certainly require a reboot which again will give me force closes...
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The data error I had too, but on twrp and it's a known thing all over recovery threads for a while now. The error thing happened to me a while back but a root66 fixed that, you should also get the other bug fixed with in the same process.
shahkam said:
Thing is I don't really have access to a laptop anymore and it's really hard I could use mobile odin I guess but this all started since I started using cwm touch might first try to go back to non touch cwm but the process will certainly require a reboot which again will give me force closes...
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Mobile Odin isn't hard to use at all. I highly recommend using it in place of cwm and twrp, except for when a nandroid is needed.
As for the cwm touch, have you considered trting twrp? Personally I prefer it over cwm.
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DocHoliday77 said:
Mobile Odin isn't hard to use at all. I highly recommend using it in place of cwm and twrp, except for when a nandroid is needed.
As for the cwm touch, have you considered trting twrp? Personally I prefer it over cwm.
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Yeah everybody suggests twrp its just that im so familiar whit cwm im sort of affraid of using anything else lol.. but for now im gonna flash non touch cwm first and as of now I've setup my rom and im scared if I flash another recovery I'll have to re setup the rom... ugh...
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Have you tried liquidsmooth?
shahkam said:
Hi everytime I flash an tw rom on first boot everything works perfectly but as soon as I reboot I get this error phone.android.com has stopped and it keeps doing it so force closing each 15 seconds..
I tried to reflash whit a full wipe various times different tw roms but it still happens??
Also while im at it dont feel like opening another thread I have cwm6 touch the latest and during a nandroid backup it says backup of /data has failed some sort of error ....
I really want to go back to tw tired of aosp any ideas?
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Hey man I have been running Liquidsmooth 4.2.2 for a long time and its the best ROM I know of. You should give it a try!
No doubt its a good rom but was on illusion for like 2months tired of aosp might give miui v5 another spin kinda liked it..
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shahkam said:
Yeah everybody suggests twrp its just that im so familiar whit cwm im sort of affraid of using anything else lol.. but for now im gonna flash non touch cwm first and as of now I've setup my rom and im scared if I flash another recovery I'll have to re setup the rom... ugh...
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There's no reason at all to be nervous about trying a different recovery. Thousands of people have been using it w/o issue. Personally I think they are both really good, I just prefer twrp. Give it a shot, if you don't like it, install cwm.
It shouldn't do anything at all to your current rom. Recovery is on a completely different partition. And you can install w/o flashing. Use goo manager for twrp or rom manager for cwm.
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There's no reason at all to be nervous about trying a different recovery. Thousands of people have been using it w/o issue. Personally I think they are both really good, I just prefer twrp. Give it a shot, if you don't like it, install cwm.
It shouldn't do anything at all to your current rom. Recovery is on a completely different partition. And you can install w/o flashing. Use goo manager for twrp or rom manager for cwm.
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I'll give feedback tomorrow onto that but rebooting the device gives me that android.phone.com has force stopped error so trying to avoid that but will definitely try twrp recovery
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[Q] Flashed 4.3 ROM

Hi guys I flashed a 4.3 ROM and when I'm going to restore a backup the first time it didn't let me. It gave me a error. I couldn't flash any other ROM. So I Odin. This time when I was going to restore my backup wasn't there.
What might it be?
You need to be more clear when asking for help, help us help you. Were you on a touchwiz rom before flashing a 4.3 rom? Your backup might be gone now if you odin'd back to stock.
Try connecting your phone to a computer and see if you can find you backup, if your back up hasnt been deleted, it will be in a folder with the same name as your recovery (TWRP, CLOCKWORK MOD RECOVERY OR CWM).
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Da Kine said:
You need to be more clear when asking for help, help us help you. Were you on a touchwiz rom before flashing a 4.3 rom? Your backup might be gone now if you odin'd back to stock.
Try connecting your phone to a computer and see if you can find you backup, if your back up hasnt been deleted, it will be in a folder with the same name as your recovery (TWRP, CLOCKWORK MOD RECOVERY OR CWM).
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Yeah I was on touchwiz. The backup fot deleted before using odin. I connected it hut I didn't find it on the computer neither
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Theres the problem. Google changed the file structure in android 4.2.x.
Just type into google "android 0 folder".
Sounds like your backup is gone and you have to basically start over. You should keep an extra copy of any backups you make on an extra sd card or even on your computer.
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