I was wondering why is where is the RAM in One V getting used?
I have no open apps, still it has just 80-90 MB of RAM free (with just 3-4 apps like HTC Sense input running in Settings-Apps). While on my Xperia Mini ST15i, always 100-160MB of RAM is free (even with a big list of apps in the 'Running' tab in Settings-Applications-Manage Applications.)
Why's One V always low in free memory when compared to Xperia Mini?
Sense can be a memory hog; I switched to an ICS imitation launcher and removed sense (via root), and now I consistently have some 120+MB ram free. Haven't noticed any major lag difference between the launchers though, so you prolly shouldn't worry about it unless you play demanding games, in which case you might want something with *cough* better hardware.
Don't you have an overclocked Kernel?
clxcoltz said:
Haven't noticed any major lag difference between the launchers though, so you prolly shouldn't worry about it unless you play demanding games, in which case you might want something with *cough* better hardware.
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Do you have an overclocked Kernel after rooting?
Paresh Kalinani said:
Do you have an overclocked Kernel after rooting?
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No, am going to try that, but don't plan on staying on overclock for too long due to battery/heat issues. Still worth a try. I don't personally play much games, if I do I would've gone with a One S.
Overclock without root
Is there any way I can overclock my One V without rooting?
Paresh Kalinani said:
Is there any way I can overclock my One V without rooting?
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No. However installing a different launcher seems to reduce the RAM used by sense quite a lot and things are smoother. You might also need to unlock your bootloader to install kernels that overclock your device.
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JamesInsights said:
No. However installing a different launcher seems to reduce the RAM used by sense quite a lot and things are smoother.
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So which one is better and faster? LauncherPro, Apex Launcher or the same HTC Sense 4.0 (if it doesn't make a big difference) ?
And also tell me if 80-90MB RAM free on One V is bad (it SHOULD be faster) or it's OK (i don't really need to look for launchers) ?
The ICS core is fairly aggressive at purging old programs from the memory, so you shouldn't worry too much about memory for any single program. The memory issue will only show up when you multitask with many programs, as the old one starts getting purged and have to be reloaded when you jump to it, which shows up as lag at opening.
Paresh Kalinani said:
So which one is better and faster? LauncherPro, Apex Launcher or the same HTC Sense 4.0 (if it doesn't make a big difference) ?
And also tell me if 80-90MB RAM free on One V is bad (it SHOULD be faster) or it's OK (i don't really need to look for launchers) ?
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Zeam launcher IMO
I prefer Modaco Vanilla ICS ROM for speed and use its launcher. But Apex launcher is my 2nd fav launcher when I use other ROM.
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Zeam isn't taking any less RAM...
Lloir said:
Zeam launcher IMO
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Ha! Even Zeam Launcher takes 15-20MB of RAM when used. It's faster than HTC Sense 4 that takes around 36MB of RAM but it's not better than Apex Launcher or Laucher7. 'Cause each takes 15-20MB of RAM. Zeam isn't taking anything less...
I'll use HTC Sense.. till I get problems of speed... and then I'll move to Apex Launcher.
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Ha! Even Zeam Launcher takes 15-20MB of RAM when used. It's faster than HTC Sense 4 that takes around 36MB of RAM but it's not better than Apex Launcher or Laucher7. 'Cause each takes 15-20MB of RAM. Zeam isn't taking anything less...
I'll use HTC Sense.. till I get problems of speed... and then I'll move to Apex Launcher.
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First of, It is better to understand how linux works in order to understand that a low memory situation is because that's how linux/android is built. Programs that tend to be used mostly by the user (such as dialer or sms app) will get cached in memory for later use. So in our case, there are many applications that get cached. Having only 80 mb free left doesn't matter anyway. If it moves without any lag, you should not worry. Android is not Windows!! You will not get warnings that you have small amount of ram available.
Secondly, this very question - the one with the ram - was told MULTIPLE MULTIPLE TIMEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!! SEARCH THE THREADS BEFORE OPENING ANOTHER OP. Or you like to ask stupid questions instead of just search it in the first place?!
Third, you guys have ICS rom and still want to use a launcher that is that old, such as Launcher PRO or Zeam? I agree, those are smooth launchers but they are not designed for ICS, and LauncherPRO was dropped by the dev, no update was coming in a very long time. I have used Apex and Nova launcher with sense installed (running cached on background) and the phone was lag-free.
It really matters how you play with your phone (how you will set it up, how many apps, etc)....
i don't understand why you people want to drop sense?
we paid for sense 4 coz of its fantastic ui
in logical way good graphics + best ui will eat some of your ram
sense is the best stock ui available
Samsung and Motorola users die to have sense in their phones thats why soo many sense themes are available on the store
and we people have such a fantastic ui and we r wanting a simple ics theme
lame '(
dont just say thanks hit thanks if i helped
a true lfc supporter
and a former symbian lover
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First of, It is better to understand how linux works in order to understand that a low memory situation is because that's how linux/android is built. Programs that tend to be used mostly by the user (such as dialer or sms app) will get cached in memory for later use. So in our case, there are many applications that get cached. Having only 80 mb free left doesn't matter anyway. If it moves without any lag, you should not worry. Android is not Windows!! You will not get warnings that you have small amount of ram available.
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Thank You!!
But there IS an option that'll notify us when a small amount of RAM is available...
I LIKE the Pure IceCreamSandwich UI as in Galaxy Nexus
paarthdesai said:
i don't understand why you people want to drop sense?
we paid for sense 4 coz of its fantastic ui
in logical way good graphics + best ui will eat some of your ram
sense is the best stock ui available
Samsung and Motorola users die to have sense in their phones ...
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Correct. But there are many people who wanna remove the Sense from their phone and like the pure Android 4 UI as in Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
Paresh Kalinani said:
Correct. But there are many people who wanna remove the Sense from their phone and like the pure Android 4 UI as in Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
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the UI your on about is the AOSP look which i prefer myself, which is what Cyanogenmod is based on
paarthdesai said:
i don't understand why you people want to drop sense?
we paid for sense 4 coz of its fantastic ui
in logical way good graphics + best ui will eat some of your ram
sense is the best stock ui available
Samsung and Motorola users die to have sense in their phones thats why soo many sense themes are available on the store
and we people have such a fantastic ui and we r wanting a simple ics theme
lame '(
dont just say thanks hit thanks if i helped
a true lfc supporter
and a former symbian lover
sent from my awesome HTC One V running rc 2.0 by CKPV5 -using xda premium
SUPPORT THE SOFTWARE DEVELOPER'S IF YOU LIKE THE GAME / APP BUY IT
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Because, we, modders and developers, want a non-laggy device. And for that achievement we need to get rid of sense. I didn't payed for Sense. I had sense before and I can tell you that it is not a fantastic UI at all. Ofc it looks best compared to lame samsung or LG but it is not very optimized and it is eating a lot of resources. If you payed for Sense, stick with sense. Stick it with it STOCK. When you will install an AOSP rom you will see what's the capabilities of your phone (will run much much faster). Think about it this way: Sense is a thief that comes at night and it beats you until you can't breathe. We don't want that. We need to breathe. So I'm going with a stock android 4.0 instead of Sense anytime.
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Thank You!!
But there IS an option that'll notify us when a small amount of RAM is available...
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Yes it is but it doesn't matter because Android is killing old apps to free memory when needed. So don't worry about low RAM memory because Android is like a janitor. When the room is full with garbage and you need space, it will throw away the old stuff in order to move around new stuff
paarthdesai said:
i don't understand why you people want to drop sense?
we paid for sense 4 coz of its fantastic ui
in logical way good graphics + best ui will eat some of your ram
sense is the best stock ui available
Samsung and Motorola users die to have sense in their phones thats why soo many sense themes are available on the store
and we people have such a fantastic ui and we r wanting a simple ics theme
lame '(
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It's true that Samsung and Moto users will die to have Sense, but that's only because Touchwiz and Blur are even worse.
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For the people that wanted to know if you can disable HTC Sense on the Desire, or just wanted to know how to do it:
Here is a short demonstration of how to disable HTC Sense on a Desire.
It's nice to know this is possible. IMO the stock version (Nexus One look) also has some nice benefits.
Sorry if this was already posted
thanks....
this what i needed to make my decision....
defintally a desire
thanks that what i was looking for..
so excited about getting the Desire...
But, I dont think that will completely stop all Sense processes.
The Sense framework is still being used, CMIIW.
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But, I dont think that will completely stop all Sense processes.
The Sense framework is still being used, CMIIW.
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All Sense on Android is, is a few apps.
The main one being the Launcher which you can disable as seen in that video.
There's then the Messaging and Dialler apps which you can replace with stock apps (without being rooted).
That's about it apart from the fact you'd be left with a Black notification tray instead of a White one and a far superior lock screen.
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But, I dont think that will completely stop all Sense processes.
The Sense framework is still being used, CMIIW.
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IMO, i dont think someone would disable the Sense (maybe just to see how the plain Nexus One looks like ).
and we have 576 MB RAM; I dont think we should worry about "apps that run in the background"
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But, I dont think that will completely stop all Sense processes.
The Sense framework is still being used, CMIIW.
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Jup I found out that even if you disable Sense, tbere will still be some 'behind the scenes' Sense stuff going on. Like for example, Stock 2.1 only supports 5 homescreens instead of 7.
So if you REALLY want the fast Stock 2.1 experience, disable Sense is not enough. You will have to put a real stock 2.1 ROM on it, or how it is called.
Anyway, most people probably wont have any problems with this.
Speaking of stock 2.1 rom being faster than the one with Sense UI.
How much faster is it? Is it very noticeable?
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Jup I found out that even if you disable Sense, tbere will still be some 'behind the scenes' Sense stuff going on. Like for example, Stock 2.1 only supports 5 homescreens instead of 7.
So if you REALLY want the fast Stock 2.1 experience, disable Sense is not enough. You will have to put a real stock 2.1 ROM on it, or how it is called.
Anyway, most people probably wont have any problems with this.
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Keeping the HTC framework will be to the owner's advantage, some of the HTC apps that don't run on a stock Android rom will then work properly.
a stupid question....can i put manila on the desire?? and then....it's android similar to windows mobile?? there's a cab for everything?
exscuse me for stupid questions but i have a topaz and i'm thinking about take a desire!
mikawa said:
a stupid question....can i put manila on the desire?? and then....it's android similar to windows mobile?? there's a cab for everything?
exscuse me for stupid questions but i have a topaz and i'm thinking about take a desire!
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The contents of each tab in Manila are available as widgets in Android and they're far more customizable. There's really no reason to have Manila on Android.
nm... it was shown in the video @ the OP.
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Jup I found out that even if you disable Sense, tbere will still be some 'behind the scenes' Sense stuff going on. Like for example, Stock 2.1 only supports 5 homescreens instead of 7.
So if you REALLY want the fast Stock 2.1 experience, disable Sense is not enough. You will have to put a real stock 2.1 ROM on it, or how it is called.
Anyway, most people probably wont have any problems with this.
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When / If it gets rooted and vanilla 2.1 gets ported to it, I am going to always have a Nandroid backup of a version with SenseUI and a Nandroid backup of Vanilla 2.1 Android so I can swap between them as and when I want.
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Speaking of stock 2.1 rom being faster than the one with Sense UI.
How much faster is it? Is it very noticeable?
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From what I have seen, the difference is almost not even noticeable. But then again all the Desire video's I have seen are after it has just been turned on. Maybe the Sense UI will cause some lag after a while of using.
Anyway, Stock 2.1 HAS to be faster, that is a fact. 2 homescreens less, no Sense stuff running in the background, etc.
If I would turn off Sense UI, I would not do it for the speed improvement btw. I like the look of 2.1, with that 5 homescreens and the way to switch between them.
Dude it's a ''snap the dragon'' 1ghz cpu inside! You will not need extra speed
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Dude it's a ''snap the dragon'' 1ghz cpu inside! You will not need extra speed
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And the Desire has extra RAM to accommodate SenseUI.
vegetaleb said:
Dude it's a ''snap the dragon'' 1ghz cpu inside! You will not need extra speed
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Well, when I finally got my long awaited HTC TyTn, I asked on a forum if anyone knew if there were any possibility to overclock the CPU....
The only answer I got back then was : "..There's no need to overclock the TyTn, the CPU is a 400 mhz!!"
But now, I'm sitting here, stuck with my sloooow TyTn (after selling my Hero to earn money for a new Desire)
So...I guess we can always need some more power, just wait some months and the apps and games are demanding more than enough for the Snapdragon CPU....and you need to swallow a camel or two
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Dude it's a ''snap the dragon'' 1ghz cpu inside! You will not need extra speed
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Yeah, sure it's a 1Ghz processor. But my HD2 has it and it still lags.
So I will take all the extra speed I can get for perfect performance
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Yeah, sure it's a 1Ghz processor. But my HD2 has it and it still lags.
So I will take all the extra speed I can get for perfect performance
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You can argue that on the HD2 it's down to the OS/custom ROMs that it still 'lags'. My brother has the a stock T-mobile ROM on his device and I fail to see any lag.
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That's about it apart from the fact you'd be left with a Black notification tray instead of a White one and a far superior lock screen.
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The better lock screen you're talking about, is that after disabling Sense? Which lock screen would that be, and what lock screen does the alternative have? And I always thought there were several lock screens to choose from - I've seen one where you make a pattern, one where you just flick the lock screen down, one where you "turn a wheel", and possibly some others, can't remember.
That's a lot of "lock screen" for one post
Ok so I use mainly 2.1 sense build running at 633mhz cpu speed, and have had no probs with SOD, or overheating whatsoever. I have read of people going 787mhz, and leads me to wonder, how much can the processor in our TP2's take? The reason I ask is because by overclocking in Android, I have experienced significant performance increase and little to no ill effect, and it looks like at some poin oc will be possible with Windows. I am hoping that oc will be key to making Windows run as smooth as it ought to, escpecially with the severely limited amount of ram these phones have. If oc makes the sense build run smooth enough to be used comfortably, I feel same is possible with Windows, but how fast is too fast ?
u mean me..lol. good question though. ;-) I've had no ill wffects or drawbacks
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Ok so I use mainly 2.1 sense build running at 633mhz cpu speed, and have had no probs with SOD, or overheating whatsoever. I have read of people going 787mhz, and leads me to wonder, how much can the processor in our TP2's take? The reason I ask is because by overclocking in Android, I have experienced significant performance increase and little to no ill effect, and it looks like at some poin oc will be possible with Windows. I am hoping that oc will be key to making Windows run as smooth as it ought to, escpecially with the severely limited amount of ram these phones have. If oc makes the sense build run smooth enough to be used comfortably, I feel same is possible with Windows, but how fast is too fast ?
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I believe demandarin got it up to ~760MHz with no ill effects, the only issue being if your phone goes to sleep, it'll freeze and you'll have to boot back into WinMo and run haret again. And as far as my testing goes, there isn't a significant hit to battery life.
Also, I'd recommend using the AOSP build (the one without Sense). I tried running the Sense build and it's much, much slower. I also hear you get less available RAM for Android use (and ATK reported this, too). Plus, with the overclock applied, the AOSP 2.1 build just *screams*.
With the battery fix in startup.txt (htc_battery_smem.fake=1 /if thats not it exactly its very close, you know which one I mean), I never get sleep of death. I know aosp is faster than the sense build, but sense runs pretty good for me at 633, and its so nice looking. I also have the sense build on my sd with sense disabled, I was going for basically a aosp build only with the sense build's 7 pages but it seems when you disable sense, you lose the 2 extra pages with it. I have had some freezes with sense due to apparently running it out of available ram, but anytime it does that, it just goes back to the klinux/htc bootscreen and starts right back up.
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With the battery fix in startup.txt (htc_battery_smem.fake=1 /if thats not it exactly its very close, you know which one I mean), I never get sleep of death. I know aosp is faster than the sense build, but sense runs pretty good for me at 633, and its so nice looking. I also have the sense build on my sd with sense disabled, I was going for basically a aosp build only with the sense build's 7 pages but it seems when you disable sense, you lose the 2 extra pages with it. I have had some freezes with sense due to apparently running it out of available ram, but anytime it does that, it just goes back to the klinux/htc bootscreen and starts right back up.
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If you want AOSP with more screens you should just use AOSP and get a different launcher. Sense is HORRIBLY slow, and even when you have it disabled that build is SUPER slow. I've got 110mb free RAM with AOSP running Launcher Pro without a buggy overclock (that really when you run benchmarks on the OC it doesnt help THAT much), and it blows that Sense build out of the water.
just to serve as a comparison: my tilt 2 running NRGZ28's latest titanium ROM I've only got 70 mb of free ram. Are you sure you have 110? that means your phone is only using about 40% of ram just sitting there. With WM6.5 and sense 2.5 I would hover around 65% after a fresh reboot and with titanium i am at about 60%....
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just to serve as a comparison: my tilt 2 running NRGZ28's latest titanium ROM I've only got 70 mb of free ram. Are you sure you have 110? that means your phone is only using about 40% of ram just sitting there. With WM6.5 and sense 2.5 I would hover around 65% after a fresh reboot and with titanium i am at about 60%....
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Yes, I'm sure. Linux leaves a much smaller footprint.
Reefermattness said:
Yes, I'm sure. Linux leaves a much smaller footprint.
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wow thats amazing.
Reefermattness said:
If you want AOSP with more screens you should just use AOSP and get a different launcher. Sense is HORRIBLY slow, and even when you have it disabled that build is SUPER slow. I've got 110mb free RAM with AOSP running Launcher Pro without a buggy overclock (that really when you run benchmarks on the OC it doesnt help THAT much), and it blows that Sense build out of the water.
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I have the prolauncher one on my sd too, just havent set it up yet. Thats my next one to do. I have 2.01, 2.1 aosp, sense, and 2.1sense with no sense.
I have a 16 gb card so I figured why not. I really like the way sense looks, but I didnt know it was that heavy. Thats cool kinda gives me motivation to mess with it, I was stallin on it cause I hate goin thru fixing the time again.
Hey is there some way to build into the droid utility app the option to choose which build you wanna run, I assume it could be done by naming the anboot folders to andboot1 ,andboot2, etc. and then pointing the droid utility to whichever one is chosen right ?
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I have the prolauncher one on my sd too, just havent set it up yet. Thats my next one to do. I have 2.01, 2.1 aosp, sense, and 2.1sense with no sense.
I have a 16 gb card so I figured why not. I really like the way sense looks, but I didnt know it was that heavy. Thats cool kinda gives me motivation to mess with it, I was stallin on it cause I hate goin thru fixing the time again.
Hey is there some way to build into the droid utility app the option to choose which build you wanna run, I assume it could be done by naming the anboot folders to andboot1 ,andboot2, etc. and then pointing the droid utility to whichever one is chosen right ?
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Yup, we have actually discussed an online XML database, which would allow the app lots more options. Me and Piet have a huge list of things we want to add already, we just need to actually get the motivation and time to do it.
With the battery fix in startup.txt (htc_battery_smem.fake=1 /if thats not it exactly its very close, you know which one I mean), I never get sleep of
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If you want AOSP with more screens you should just use AOSP and get a different launcher. Sense is HORRIBLY slow, and even when you have it disabled that build is SUPER slow. I've got 110mb free RAM with AOSP running Launcher Pro without a buggy overclock (that really when you run benchmarks on the OC it doesnt help THAT much), and it blows that Sense build out of the water.
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+f course the Aosp build runs great right out da box. But with the overclock, it screams. Did various tests to see how much of a difference in improvement. I don't just go by benchmarks. I look for real time application. ;-) live wallpapers stock move ok. With the overclock, they fly all over and off da screen. The UI is wayy faster and more responsive. Programs load up faster. Tested different games b4 and after. After the overclock, games ran at almost normal speeds, Since hardware 3d not completly wrkn. Ill eventually go bck to stock speeds further along in development of this build. I got an early start Reefer, 4:20, U Ready? ;-)
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anyone notice that the gsenor is off? when playing games that use the gsenor like labyrinth or doodle jump, its always slanted. I dont think its the calibration, because WM works well w/ the calibration...any info?
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anyone notice that the gsenor is off? when playing games that use the gsenor like labyrinth or doodle jump, its always slanted. I dont think its the calibration, because WM works well w/ the calibration...any info?
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Yeah by like 90 degrees. I spent a little while last nite looking for a way to calibrate mine, but I got tired and gave up.
Anyone manage to overclock WITHOUT using htc_battery_smem.fake=1 and not have the SOD issue? even if it's not that much of an overclock?
Hi just about to to root my Desire - I wonder if anyone could tell me their favourite ROM with Sense UI included (I like it!)
bump! anyone? ... going to step in randomly in bit otherwise
I have Leedroid, it's pretty good, fast and stable and has apps2sd+ (for my the main reason to root and flash) but I dislike the duplication of many apps for which sense has an alternative (eg an android and htc dialer and phonebook) so you are confronted with a choice between these apps in many instances. I would choose teppic74's rom if I hadn't installed leedroid. That said it isn't annoying enough to go trough a a reinstall and setup of the phone, so I will stick with leedroid
I also tried Aurax-Sense but really didn't like the theme otherwise it seemed quite okay
Go for Aurex T-sense...Its the best,flawless and fast I have come across so far...
Alright cool thanks... I just DL'd Aurax - what was it about the theme that bugged you godutch? WIll check teppic74!
Btw whats' the advantage of apps2sd? surely the Desire has enough storage built in for a bunch of apps? And isn't the internal RAM faster?
If you don't like the theme of AuraxT you can always replace it with another one of stock. I did that and even imported the Rosie of Leedroid which has Drag and drop function.
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If you don't like the theme of AuraxT you can always replace it with another one of stock. I did that and even imported the Rosie of Leedroid which has Drag and drop function.
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That sounds good how do you replace a theme?
and what is the 'drag and drop' function? Thx!
i got leedroids rom dont seem to have a problem with it
jomtones said:
Btw whats' the advantage of apps2sd? surely the Desire has enough storage built in for a bunch of apps? And isn't the internal RAM faster?
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No actually it does not have a lot of memory for apps it gets full really fast, that's why everybody is using A2SD. Froyo has it's own A2SD but it's not as good as it can't install all apps to SD only those designed for it.
Personally I think it's a must.
I'm using the Alex-V 1.7 Rom, I like it as it is not too far off from an official Rom and has a couple tricks to save power. Now with S-OFF we can delete apps we dont want directly from the phone too so everything has become a lot easier.
pinky desire is also a stable one. with sense ui, no FC, and somehow long battery life. IMO. but it really depends on how you will use your phone. different people. different tastes. anyway you can try different roms. that's Android for you!
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Alright cool thanks... I just DL'd Aurax - what was it about the theme that bugged you godutch? WIll check teppic74!
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Well for starters it misses the little indicator to show you on which homescreen you are and I didn't like the transparent notification bar, looked too messy with the background and I didn't like the exorbitant use of color in the notification icons, also too messy
btw I would also stay away from roms that undervolt/underclock it's generally bad for your battery life because the CPU is much more energy efficient when it can enter its sleepstate. Underclocking makes tasks take longer and prevent the cpu from sleeping
Thanks for the advice everyone some good tips there I guess I'll do a bit more reading and try one out! Alex, pinky, Leedroid - ok!
After several updates this bug is still with us..! You would think that a phone with 4 cores and a gpu that can handle complex 3d shading, could handle sense moving from one screen to the next without stopping..?? Now my question is this.. Is it a HTC problem or Nvida problem and who should sort it out?
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I think this is a Sense problem to save GPU / CPU power. There are 3rd party launchers out there that have this option to make the launcher more responsive. I also believe (but not tried) if you install and use a 3rd party launcher this problem is not there. I'm unsure if HTC will fix it and that is meant to be like this by design (just like the multitasking).
BTW there was no real need to start a new topic for this...
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I think this is a Sense problem to save GPU / CPU power. There are 3rd party launchers out there that have this option to make the launcher more responsive. I also believe (but not tried) if you install and use a 3rd party launcher this problem is not there. I'm unsure if HTC will fix it and that is meant to be like this by design (just like the multitasking).
BTW there was no real need to start a new topic for this...
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100% sense every other launcher doesn't have this, I don't use live wallpapers battery hog.
There is a nice launcher called Regina and it is 100% 3d graphic launcher runs really nice on tegra 3
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chris_lyon82 said:
I think this is a Sense problem to save GPU / CPU power. There are 3rd party launchers out there that have this option to make the launcher more responsive. I also believe (but not tried) if you install and use a 3rd party launcher this problem is not there. I'm unsure if HTC will fix it and that is meant to be like this by design (just like the multitasking).
BTW there was no real need to start a new topic for this...
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Apex Launcher doesnt have this problem. Works fine
whats weird is that live wallpapers were actually pretty smooth on 1.19 firmware (the one my HOX shipped with) in rosie. but yeah just use any other launcher and you wont have issues with live wallpaper.
I still get the same issue with another launcher, when I unlock the screen. The live wallpaper is static like it was closed by the android task scheduler.
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sense launcher freezes the widgets while scrolling, maybe thats related to the bug we have when using live wallpapers
I mailed HTC about this, and after some time they mailed me back saying that the problem was sent to their development in Taiwan for further investigation and to find out if the problem can be solved with an update. I can give you a copy of the mails, but it's in danish
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Hi guys,
I am planning to buy the Tab S with the Exynos processor in the Netherlands, but 50% of the people says it lags like hell, and the other 50% says it is really smooth and the best thing you can buy!
I can't decide whether it is good or not ( it has Android L).
Please help me out!
Kind Regards
tarikkert71 said:
Hi guys,
I am planning to buy the Tab S with the Exynos processor in the Netherlands, but 50% of the people says it lags like hell, and the other 50% says it is really smooth and the best thing you can buy!
I can't decide whether it is good or not ( it has Android L).
Please help me out!
Kind Regards
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Your question will not get you a clear answer as you need to match your specific user profile and previous devices with those saying the device is laggy. I do not find my Tab S 10.5 laggy on stock, rooted 5.0.2. I'm not a gamer and mainly use the device for media consumption (reading news, YouTube, Netflix and email), none of which is too taxing. I replaced the stock launcher with Nova Prime launcher and used Titanium Backup to freeze the majority of bloat wear which reduced the start times and memory used. My previous devices are a Nexus 5 phone and a Nexus 10 tablet.
Using this kind of analysis you may be able to determine if this tablet is "laggy" for your personal usage profile.
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Root?
Thanks for the reply,
May I ask why you rooted it? Didn't you like the bloatware, or was it kinda not responsive?
I'm not sure where and when this lag occurs, but I've never experienced it.
However I'm not a gamer.
It doesn't lag in games in my experience. However, IMO it lags when you are switching between apps and launching apps, which is weird because I often use the multiwindow feature and the tablet is clearly capable of running two apps at the same time.
Btw, the reason why some people think it doesn't lag is because lag is a very subjective issue. What I consider lag may be totally acceptable to others.
snapper.fishes said:
It doesn't lag in games in my experience. However, IMO it lags when you are switching between apps and launching apps, which is weird because I often use the multiwindow feature and the tablet is clearly capable of running two apps at the same time.
Btw, the reason why some people think it doesn't lag is because lag is a very subjective issue. What I consider lag may be totally acceptable to others.
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Well I compare it to my htc m8 which is a powerful device in its own right and it compares admirably most of the time.
I think it's mostly down to TouchWiz not the hardware. Just too much bumpf under the hood.
Samsung need to learn that most people don't want all that baggage and to provide a more minimal experience. They can always offer the extras as optional downloads.
However I must say things like Web browsing have improved with lollipop and the stock browser. Its about the smoothest experience of all the available browsers.
ashyx said:
Well I compare it to my htc m8 which is a powerful device in its own right and it compares admirably most of the time.
I think it's mostly down to TouchWiz not the hardware. Just too much bumpf under the hood.
Samsung need to learn that most people don't want all that baggage and to provide a more minimal experience. They can always offer the extras as optional downloads.
However I must say things like Web browsing have improved with lollipop and the stock browser. Its about the smoothest experience of all the available browsers.
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Oh yes. Having used a Nexus 4 I know how smooth stock android can be. Samsung installs way too much crap on their devices, but I like the multi window feature too much to give up touchwiz. Last I heard the multiwindow feature still hasn't been implemented in AOSP Marshmallow.
Stock browser is amazing. I used to use chrome but it lagged like crazy. Not sure how Google can screw up chrome that badly, but then again chrome is a resource hog even on Windows.
NEver be a gamer on tablet, i always use it for media comsumption.
but, yeah, it's kinda laggy because my tablets installed with pre installed apps + full google apps.
And it's kinda lag sometime.
If you have Root, install Kernel Aduitor (free). The only thing you need to change is the Min CPU freq, 250 mhz is pretty slow.
450 or 650 mhz get things snappy.
tarikkert71 said:
Thanks for the reply,
May I ask why you rooted it? Didn't you like the bloatware, or was it kinda not responsive?
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I rooted for a few reasons. Proper device backups with Titanium Backups, superior audio with Viper4Android, Stickmount and immersion mode with GDM Gesture Control plus it's customized gestures. I use those root apps on all my devices.
I froze apps as several were being automatically started at boot time slowing down startup and unnecessarily using memory. I wanted a cleaner experience. The unwanted apps also clutter up your app menu, making it slightly more difficult to find the app you wanted to start. In general I freeze over removing as you cannot use that much of the freed up space except for SuperSU, Viper4Androis and Busybox. There are a few more but far less than the space freed by removing bloat wear.
I also dark themed TW settings and the notification bar as I cannot stand white backgrounds with black text but that was secondary to the root reasons listed above.
Due to the ability to root without tripping KNOX I could root without loosing my warranty. Without that I would have waited for a year until the warranty expired.
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steamrollerpark said:
If you have Root, install Kernel Aduitor (free). The only thing you need to change is the Min CPU freq, 250 mhz is pretty slow.
450 or 650 mhz get things snappy.
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Does that work on the stock kernel if you are rooted?
tarikkert71 said:
Hi guys,
I am planning to buy the Tab S with the Exynos processor in the Netherlands, but 50% of the people says it lags like hell, and the other 50% says it is really smooth and the best thing you can buy!
I can't decide whether it is good or not ( it has Android L).
Please help me out!
Kind Regards
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For what it's worth, b4 I rooted I used Package Disabler pro and disabled 104 different services/packages. It made a huge difference and everything worked just fine. But, I got the rooting fever and now I'm even happier with my Tab S.
TiTiB (tweak it 'til it breaks) ¤ Galaxy Tab S | SMT-T700 | klimtwifi ¤ AICP 5.1.1
Yes, running stock here.