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gone a bit laggy

when I got my desire it was super fast (anything is compared to the hero)
however ive noticed that over time it has become a little laggy when live wallpapers are running
i have very little running in the background as far as I can tell
the screen movements dont seem as smooth
ive still got 50+mb of program memory left
the only things i have running in the background are
weather and toggle widgets
seepu (processor monitor program)
Gmail counter (screen widgets)
messaging counter (screen widgets)
I also have the following installed
advanced task killer
appbrain market sync
appremover
explorer
ezcam
google service
google translate
mixzing
moodpaper
navigon
oi file manager
onoff widget pack
places directory
pkt auction ebay
shop savvy
spotify
skype
trafficintel
traintimes
xda
i have done a hard reset and it still is sometimes laggy ... gets worse when i install programs ... ive tried to work out which is causing the lag but have give up
any idea#s
i regularly flush the cache also
its still faster that my hero however its annyoying that it appears to get slow
perhaps ive got use to the speed and now want faster speeds however thought id ask if anyone else is having problems

I never use live wallpapers, it makes it slow. You also have lag without live wallpaper on? And I think its very easy to get used to the speed.
I hope we get some update soon (or even the 2.2 eventually) and see some nice speed improvements.
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Live wallpapers altogether make my phone laggy. The nexus live wallpaper seems OKAY though. And yeah, 2.2 will hopefully fix the lag.
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I would get rid of advanced task killer. In my experience this causes a lot more problems than it solves. It might just be useful if you are a real expert and have a badly behaved program but for the average user it almost always results in worse performance both in speed and battery life. I'm amazed that people continue to use it. Android is NOT like Windows, applications are usually suspended rather than run in the background and use hardly any resources.
The Android system does its own task killing where needed. 2.1 is rather good at it and you will not find many people who know what they are doing trying to improve on it.

scotch whisky said:
I would get rid of advanced task killer. In my experience this causes a lot more problems than it solves. It might just be useful if you are a real expert and have a badly behaved program but for the average user it almost always results in worse performance both in speed and battery life. I'm amazed that people continue to use it. Android is NOT like Windows, applications are usually suspended rather than run in the background and use hardly any resources.
The Android system does its own task killing where needed. 2.1 is rather good at it and you will not find many people who know what they are doing trying to improve on it.
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+1 Completely agree.
ATK is the most likely cause of the slowdown.

yeah mine lags only when a) I use live wallpaper (which I dont anymore)
and b) when its installing an app after downloading (for a few seconds) other than that its fine.although I do wish for a fix in the new 2.2 or something

i agree live wallpapers slow mine down a bit (although nexus one seems ok)

I use the nexus mod live wallpaper off the market. It doesn't slow down my phone and it adds settings for color schemes.
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jonmall1441 said:
I use the nexus mod live wallpaper off the market. It doesn't slow down my phone and it adds settings for color schemes.
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I use it too and I don't feel as if it slows down.

jonmall1441 said:
I use the nexus mod live wallpaper off the market. It doesn't slow down my phone and it adds settings for color schemes.
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where can i find this wallpaper you talk about ????

lambrospower said:
where can i find this wallpaper you talk about ????
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just search for nexus one live wallpaper in the market. it's there.

[Q] Anyone Noticed Home Screen Lag?

Forgive me if this has been posted elsewhere but I couldnt find it.
Q1. Has anyone experienced clicking the Home button from another app or from the app drawer and seeing just the wallpaper for a few moments until the home screen widgets, folder and shortcuts are redrawn?
Q2. Also, Has anyone noticed lag when scrolling between home screens if a Live Wallpaper is used? I notice some live wallpapers make scrolling worse than some others.
If this has been posted, let me know?

Yes to Q1.
Also had lock up in gallery with a spinning circle and nothing happening.

Yes to Q2. All of the live wallpapers except one cause lag. Quite disappointing.

Yes I've noticed this which is quite disappointing considering everything is meant to be GPU accelerated and butter smooth in an iPhone-esque manner, general navigation doesn't seem any different to my HD2. Hopefully software updates can overcome these issues.

It's good to know I don't have a faulty handset but its a shame that its not as smooth as the early reviews lead me to believe (although it is very smooth once in the app drawer and other places).
Does anyone know any impressive Live Wallpapers that have little or no detrimental effect on Home Screen lag? I find Koi Free quite impressive without causing much noticeable lag (but its a bit old hat now, so I'd like something different).

Yeah I find it very hard to work out how The Verge could've given it such a high score, software in particular, and called it "blazing fast".
It's good, but it doesn't feel very fast to me.

I'm very disappointed by the live wallpaper lag, i thought ICS completely diminished any lag in the OS
all the live wallpapers make the scrolling look historic except for the one: PHASE BEAM
that one is as smooth as a picture wallpaper
anyone else? hopefully its easily fixable in a future general maintenece OTA or some custom roms

if you guys are using third party wallpapers then they probably were never updated to enable the hardware exceleration.
if your using the built in, then thats totally unacceptable IMO and is very upsetting since i was looking forward to having a device that will actually be able to run LWPs.

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if you guys are using third party wallpapers then they probably were never updated to enable the hardware exceleration.
if your using the built in, then thats totally unacceptable IMO and is very upsetting since i was looking forward to having a device that will actually be able to run LWPs.
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I have tryed the ones that came with with phone and sadly it is not smooth also.
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It feels like my Sensation with a 3rd party launcher. =(
Still love the phone but this wasn't supposed to happen.

i read in the endaget review that not all live wallpapers are HW accelerated - as of right now only "Phase Beam" (the default) one is.
Which is why you should notice theres no lag on the Phase Beam Live wallpaper (at least not for me), whereas stuff like "Nexus" live wallpaper will seem to lag
This is the paragraph i read:
"Not all the live wallpapers are fully optimized (for example, Phase Beam is, but Water isn't). Developers have to add a single line of code to their apps to take advantage of 2D hardware acceleration -- you're able to enable this as the default for all apps by checking "Force GPU rendering" in the Developer Options."
So apparently its just one line of code that devs need to add in for their apps - granted, these are GOOGLE wallpapers so im not sure why they just didnt add it in themselves.
But this also adds to the Developer options of "Force 2D rendering" - although im not sure if this will help the unoptimized live wallpaper lag
just my 2cents

1. Yes
2. Yes
I also sometimes get lag when launching the app drawer.
Scrolling widgets also seems so stutter slightly as well.
Glad to know its not just my handset, but dissapointed as well. My GS2 was buttery smooth everywhere

Well, this is disappointing. It's a pretty basic part of the user experience, one that you'd think Google would spend a lot of time on. My GS1 running 2.3.4 suffers from refilling the launcher when I return to the home screen. I was hoping the SGN with ICS would end that experience. You guys running a lot of apps? Maybe there's something in common between those affected that isn't experienced by everyone. Will be watching this thread.

Noticed it straight after first boot, amount of apps has nothing to do with it, at least for me.

Anyone tried different launchers. Different launchers play a big role in Android user experience and smoothness. I don't think any custom launcher has hardware acceleration enabled yet, but it would be worth a shot.
It is also unacceptable that the default stock Live Wallpapers from Google weren't updated to utilize the hardware acceleration. HWA is the main feature of ICS that everyone was waiting for. EVERYTHING on the Galaxy Nexus should be setup for HWA. No excuses.
On a side note, all of my phones lagged a little when using LWPs. Even my fast G2x. The SGS2 had hardware acceleration enabled... so it could just be the launcher.

adw launcher FTW.

enable 2d doesnt fix it
has this been opened as an issue in the google aosp page

Hmm. This reminds me of the first time I took my Nexus S out of the box..
Just wait for some custom roms and such, google are apparantly horrible at optimizing performance.

I have a feeling that using GPU acceleration to certain wallpapers would cause the phone to become unstable or something, like how forcing GPU acceleration has been reported to cause instability. Google probably disabled it while they quietly work on the issue.
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perhaps
but the one live wallpaper works WONDERFULLY

Low free RAM with One V...

I was wondering why is where is the RAM in One V getting used?
I have no open apps, still it has just 80-90 MB of RAM free (with just 3-4 apps like HTC Sense input running in Settings-Apps). While on my Xperia Mini ST15i, always 100-160MB of RAM is free (even with a big list of apps in the 'Running' tab in Settings-Applications-Manage Applications.)
Why's One V always low in free memory when compared to Xperia Mini?

Sense can be a memory hog; I switched to an ICS imitation launcher and removed sense (via root), and now I consistently have some 120+MB ram free. Haven't noticed any major lag difference between the launchers though, so you prolly shouldn't worry about it unless you play demanding games, in which case you might want something with *cough* better hardware.

Don't you have an overclocked Kernel?
clxcoltz said:
Haven't noticed any major lag difference between the launchers though, so you prolly shouldn't worry about it unless you play demanding games, in which case you might want something with *cough* better hardware.
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Do you have an overclocked Kernel after rooting?

Paresh Kalinani said:
Do you have an overclocked Kernel after rooting?
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No, am going to try that, but don't plan on staying on overclock for too long due to battery/heat issues. Still worth a try. I don't personally play much games, if I do I would've gone with a One S.

Overclock without root
Is there any way I can overclock my One V without rooting?

Paresh Kalinani said:
Is there any way I can overclock my One V without rooting?
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No. However installing a different launcher seems to reduce the RAM used by sense quite a lot and things are smoother. You might also need to unlock your bootloader to install kernels that overclock your device.
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*** LancherPro v/s Apex Launcher v/s HTC Sense 4.0 ***
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No. However installing a different launcher seems to reduce the RAM used by sense quite a lot and things are smoother.
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So which one is better and faster? LauncherPro, Apex Launcher or the same HTC Sense 4.0 (if it doesn't make a big difference) ?
And also tell me if 80-90MB RAM free on One V is bad (it SHOULD be faster) or it's OK (i don't really need to look for launchers) ?

The ICS core is fairly aggressive at purging old programs from the memory, so you shouldn't worry too much about memory for any single program. The memory issue will only show up when you multitask with many programs, as the old one starts getting purged and have to be reloaded when you jump to it, which shows up as lag at opening.

Paresh Kalinani said:
So which one is better and faster? LauncherPro, Apex Launcher or the same HTC Sense 4.0 (if it doesn't make a big difference) ?
And also tell me if 80-90MB RAM free on One V is bad (it SHOULD be faster) or it's OK (i don't really need to look for launchers) ?
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Zeam launcher IMO

I prefer Modaco Vanilla ICS ROM for speed and use its launcher. But Apex launcher is my 2nd fav launcher when I use other ROM.
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Zeam isn't taking any less RAM...
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Zeam launcher IMO
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Ha! Even Zeam Launcher takes 15-20MB of RAM when used. It's faster than HTC Sense 4 that takes around 36MB of RAM but it's not better than Apex Launcher or Laucher7. 'Cause each takes 15-20MB of RAM. Zeam isn't taking anything less...
I'll use HTC Sense.. till I get problems of speed... and then I'll move to Apex Launcher.

Paresh Kalinani said:
Ha! Even Zeam Launcher takes 15-20MB of RAM when used. It's faster than HTC Sense 4 that takes around 36MB of RAM but it's not better than Apex Launcher or Laucher7. 'Cause each takes 15-20MB of RAM. Zeam isn't taking anything less...
I'll use HTC Sense.. till I get problems of speed... and then I'll move to Apex Launcher.
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First of, It is better to understand how linux works in order to understand that a low memory situation is because that's how linux/android is built. Programs that tend to be used mostly by the user (such as dialer or sms app) will get cached in memory for later use. So in our case, there are many applications that get cached. Having only 80 mb free left doesn't matter anyway. If it moves without any lag, you should not worry. Android is not Windows!! You will not get warnings that you have small amount of ram available.
Secondly, this very question - the one with the ram - was told MULTIPLE MULTIPLE TIMEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!! SEARCH THE THREADS BEFORE OPENING ANOTHER OP. Or you like to ask stupid questions instead of just search it in the first place?!
Third, you guys have ICS rom and still want to use a launcher that is that old, such as Launcher PRO or Zeam? I agree, those are smooth launchers but they are not designed for ICS, and LauncherPRO was dropped by the dev, no update was coming in a very long time. I have used Apex and Nova launcher with sense installed (running cached on background) and the phone was lag-free.
It really matters how you play with your phone (how you will set it up, how many apps, etc)....

i don't understand why you people want to drop sense?
we paid for sense 4 coz of its fantastic ui
in logical way good graphics + best ui will eat some of your ram
sense is the best stock ui available
Samsung and Motorola users die to have sense in their phones thats why soo many sense themes are available on the store
and we people have such a fantastic ui and we r wanting a simple ics theme
lame '(
dont just say thanks hit thanks if i helped
a true lfc supporter
and a former symbian lover
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SUPPORT THE SOFTWARE DEVELOPER'S IF YOU LIKE THE GAME / APP BUY IT

Thank You!
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First of, It is better to understand how linux works in order to understand that a low memory situation is because that's how linux/android is built. Programs that tend to be used mostly by the user (such as dialer or sms app) will get cached in memory for later use. So in our case, there are many applications that get cached. Having only 80 mb free left doesn't matter anyway. If it moves without any lag, you should not worry. Android is not Windows!! You will not get warnings that you have small amount of ram available.
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Thank You!!
But there IS an option that'll notify us when a small amount of RAM is available...

I LIKE the Pure IceCreamSandwich UI as in Galaxy Nexus
paarthdesai said:
i don't understand why you people want to drop sense?
we paid for sense 4 coz of its fantastic ui
in logical way good graphics + best ui will eat some of your ram
sense is the best stock ui available
Samsung and Motorola users die to have sense in their phones ...
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Correct. But there are many people who wanna remove the Sense from their phone and like the pure Android 4 UI as in Samsung Galaxy Nexus.

Paresh Kalinani said:
Correct. But there are many people who wanna remove the Sense from their phone and like the pure Android 4 UI as in Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
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the UI your on about is the AOSP look which i prefer myself, which is what Cyanogenmod is based on

paarthdesai said:
i don't understand why you people want to drop sense?
we paid for sense 4 coz of its fantastic ui
in logical way good graphics + best ui will eat some of your ram
sense is the best stock ui available
Samsung and Motorola users die to have sense in their phones thats why soo many sense themes are available on the store
and we people have such a fantastic ui and we r wanting a simple ics theme
lame '(
dont just say thanks hit thanks if i helped
a true lfc supporter
and a former symbian lover
sent from my awesome HTC One V running rc 2.0 by CKPV5 -using xda premium
SUPPORT THE SOFTWARE DEVELOPER'S IF YOU LIKE THE GAME / APP BUY IT
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Because, we, modders and developers, want a non-laggy device. And for that achievement we need to get rid of sense. I didn't payed for Sense. I had sense before and I can tell you that it is not a fantastic UI at all. Ofc it looks best compared to lame samsung or LG but it is not very optimized and it is eating a lot of resources. If you payed for Sense, stick with sense. Stick it with it STOCK. When you will install an AOSP rom you will see what's the capabilities of your phone (will run much much faster). Think about it this way: Sense is a thief that comes at night and it beats you until you can't breathe. We don't want that. We need to breathe. So I'm going with a stock android 4.0 instead of Sense anytime.
Paresh Kalinani said:
Thank You!!
But there IS an option that'll notify us when a small amount of RAM is available...
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Yes it is but it doesn't matter because Android is killing old apps to free memory when needed. So don't worry about low RAM memory because Android is like a janitor. When the room is full with garbage and you need space, it will throw away the old stuff in order to move around new stuff

paarthdesai said:
i don't understand why you people want to drop sense?
we paid for sense 4 coz of its fantastic ui
in logical way good graphics + best ui will eat some of your ram
sense is the best stock ui available
Samsung and Motorola users die to have sense in their phones thats why soo many sense themes are available on the store
and we people have such a fantastic ui and we r wanting a simple ics theme
lame '(
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It's true that Samsung and Moto users will die to have Sense, but that's only because Touchwiz and Blur are even worse.

[TIP] Remove widgets to decrease homescreen redraw

I'm unsure how much "news" this is, but my GS III kept redrawing the homescreen, if I stayed in another app for longer than 30 seconds (even opening Settings!).
After some Google'ing, I saw that widgets may be an issue. I was just using two small ones, the built-in calendar (2x1) and email (4x2): nothing for a 1.4GHz dual-core with 2GB of RAM, right? Well, I removed both of those and now my GS III is as zippy as I got it. Everything is faster: the Apps menu loads faster, no homescreen redraw, everything is way more fluid.
This "tip" might be uber-common knowledge, but coming off an iPhone, I had no idea widgets were so draining. I'm just really happy and I thought I would share my happiness, just in case someone else is trying to diagnose their GS III.
~Ibrahim~

Or just install the v6 supercharger script. It modifies how android handles memory. Also, using nova launcher I almost never have home screen redraws.
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I run about 3 times the widgets you were with no issue, but neither of the ones you did. Perhaps the issue isn't with widgets entirely but one of those widgets malfunctioning. Have you tried other widgets to test your thesis? Did any combination of two regardless of the widget cause redraw? I would test it further if I were you, I'll run those two also and see if I can recreate it.
Additionally, are you running stock Rom? Rooted? Custom Rom/which? Uv or oc?etc...
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I run about 3 times the widgets you were with no issue, but neither of the ones you did. Perhaps the issue isn't with widgets entirely but one of those widgets malfunctioning. Have you tried other widgets to test your thesis? Did any combination of two regardless of the widget cause redraw? I would test it further if I were you, I'll run those two also and see if I can recreate it.
Additionally, are you running stock Rom? Rooted? Custom Rom/which? Uv or oc?etc...
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Well, the homescreen redraw is a little sporadic. I just know that for the few hours I removed the two widgets, the phone felt faster and I experienced no homescreen redraws (in comparison to the weeks where I had many homescreen redraws and a bit of lagginess). I placed 9 widgets on for about 10 minutes (but did not include the two "bad' ones): no redraws. I then put the two "bad" ones again and I had a homescreen redraw after about 3 minutes of using Boat Browser.
Stock as can be: i747 running UCALG1. No root, no custom ROM, no UV/OC, nothing. Just bought it out the store and took that one OTA update that removed universal search.
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Or just install the v6 supercharger script. It modifies how android handles memory. Also, using nova launcher I almost never have home screen redraws.
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I tried Nova and Apex, too, but I didn't like their style and they didn't seem quite as smooth as TW. But, I did see the V6 Supercharger script as a fix (I think it lowered the OOM priority of the TW launcher?)

And I eat my words!
I needed those two "bad" widgets and the redraws were slowing my mojo. Tried a few launchers apprehensively, but pleasantly surprised. Currently a fan of Nova which-unlike my previous try-is blazing!
You may think stock should be faster because Samsung should know more about their device than an app developer...but my experience is beginning to show that is not true. Already replaced the SMS app because of bugs and now the launcher, too.

Stutter?

Is it just my phone that stutters quite frequently or is this just a general problem with the m9? All the reviewers said something along the lines of "this phone is a speed beast" or something like that but I hate the stuttering. My brother's Nexus 6 is time and time again smoother than my phone. For example, when I go on nova launcher with a vertical scrolling app drawer and scroll, the m9 stutters when scrolling while the Nexus 6 is at a constant 60fps. Yet when I looked it up online everyone said the m9 was faster. Also, could this be a problem with the ROM, would I be better off with a custom ROM such as CM or ADHD? This lag is especially annoying since I paid good money for my phone
Is it just my phone that's bad or is this the snapdragon 810?

try to play with scrolling options in nova settings. there shouldn't be a problem normally, also be sure to keep power saver off, it will make the phone lag and stutter/slow

DeeZZ_NuuZZ said:
try to play with scrolling options in nova settings. there shouldn't be a problem normally, also be sure to keep power saver off, it will make the phone lag and stutter/slow
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I have power saver off and changing the settings does no good, I still get small stuttering when I scroll, although since I got custom Roms it's been reduced, it's still there. But thanks anyway

i really had no problems with stock, aswell as my dad, he is f ull unrooted and no laggs or whatsoever. ICE 10 port is awesome and with ex kernel i have really no lags or stutter or so

DeeZZ_NuuZZ said:
i really had no problems with stock, aswell as my dad, he is f ull unrooted and no laggs or whatsoever. ICE 10 port is awesome and with ex kernel i have really no lags or stutter or so
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I noticed the scrolling in the Nexus 5x is different, it's a lot slower so it's smoother, is there a way to get the same thing on the HTC one m9

Where do you notice these stutter when scrolling? In apps? Or where?
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Nova launcher when using vertical drawers, I can also see it in action launcher and Google launcher, I really want to get to the bottom of this lag.

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Nova launcher when using vertical drawers, I can also see it in action launcher and Google launcher, I really want to get to the bottom of this lag.
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nova shouldn't lag, the others are ****ty. just play around with the drawer settings in nova. sense launcher for example does not lag a bit, also when using nova, tried it now with every drawer, it works as it should, without stutter and lag

DeeZZ_NuuZZ said:
nova shouldn't lag, the others are ****ty. just play around with the drawer settings in nova. sense launcher for example does not lag a bit, also when using nova, tried it now with every drawer, it works as it should, without stutter and lag
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I think I have a fix, basically I was going through the kernel settings in my ROM and I turned all my cores minimum frequency to 768mhz and now when I run nova I get 0 stutter and lag, I'm guessing my phone was just turning the core frequency down too much, this still doesn't explain why you don't get lag but I guess a fix is a fix. Since getting 60fps everywhere on my phone I'm in a sense of euphoria, also do you know a way for me to manage my CPU settings on an app basis