So far the land of JB offers lots of goodies. I'm thinking of staying here but there is one big challenge for me - the new way "Complete action using" behaves. I need to select the app then I need to do an "extra click" to pick "Always" vs "Just once". That's the reverse behaviour from anything below 4.1 that I've seen in may years of flashing. Any chance to set this to reduce that extra click, ie toggle for making an app the default one for the action?
IE. I get a link, I click on it, it prompts me which browser I want to use and if I select Firefox from the list, I'd like the page to open in FF, no extra selection. I go back, out of FF, select the same link, the same list pops up and I select Chrome, again without having to do the extra click "Just once"?
TIA, Marv
GNex with bigxie's [ROM][GSM]Jellybean 4.1 JRN84D
Click always instead of just once...
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It's the same as it has always been. Just choose the app you want to keep using and click always.
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DirgeExtinction said:
It's the same as it has always been. Just choose the app you want to keep using and click always.
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No, it's not. I agree with the OP. It is a very annoying and backwards feature. In ICS and below, the menu that popped up, you could click your suitable app and it would know it was "just once" but now we have to click the suitable app and click also just once. I use stuff where I don't want it to always remember, I always want the choice, whether to use Root Explorer or Gallery, whether to use stock browser, or Chrome, and whether to use Google Music, Youtube, or Poweramp (etc. you get my point). And yes, when you're using that many "hotlinks" often enough, it can get very tedious and annoying. Sorry for my mini-rant, it's just stupid. But OP, I think there might be an apk you can flash that will revert it to ICS... or flash an ICS apk over. I will look for it.
This sounds really annoying. I have many apps that I don't set a default, like browser for example I use different browsers all the time so I don't set a default. Its currently just one click. If JB adds a second confirmation pop up then that is really dumb.
anton2009 said:
No, it's not. I agree with the OP. It is a very annoying and backwards feature. In ICS and below, the menu that popped up, you could click your suitable app and it would know it was "just once" but now we have to click the suitable app and click also just once. I use stuff where I don't want it to always remember, I always want the choice, whether to use Root Explorer or Gallery, whether to use stock browser, or Chrome, and whether to use Google Music, Youtube, or Poweramp (etc. you get my point). And yes, when you're using that many "hotlinks" often enough, it can get very tedious and annoying. Sorry for my mini-rant, it's just stupid. But OP, I think there might be an apk you can flash that will revert it to ICS... or flash an ICS apk over. I will look for it.
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Thank you anton2009 for not only reading my question but understanding it! With 99% of the "smart" users in forums never bothering to read the question I had given up on posting. But I almost always found the answers to my questions before even needing to post one. In this case, I was puzzled no one talked about JB doubling the number of clicks vs ICS and below when one simply wants to run different apps in different situations from the same link. Like you, I test links with different browsers when I develop mobile sites/apps and listen to music with different apps, some times I use youtube to play on my devices, some times I use youtuberemote to beam it to my TV. This "just once" kills me and I'm almost ready to go back to AOKP or give CM9 (now with JB kernel) another run.
If anyone finds an apk, or prop or anything that reverts the Complete action using behaviour, please please pleeeease let me know
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Marv
I think I'm getting close:
public static final String ACTION_CHOOSER
Since: API Level 1
Activity Action: Display an activity chooser, allowing the user to pick what they want to before proceeding. This can be used as an alternative to the standard activity picker that is displayed by the system when you try to start an activity with multiple possible matches, with these differences in behavior:
You can specify the title that will appear in the activity chooser.
The user does not have the option to make one of the matching activities a preferred activity, and all possible activities will always be shown even if one of them is currently marked as the preferred activity.
This action should be used when the user will naturally expect to select an activity in order to proceed. An example if when not to use it is when the user clicks on a "mailto:" link. They would naturally expect to go directly to their mail app, so startActivity() should be called directly: it will either launch the current preferred app, or put up a dialog allowing the user to pick an app to use and optionally marking that as preferred.
In contrast, if the user is selecting a menu item to send a picture they are viewing to someone else, there are many different things they may want to do at this point: send it through e-mail, upload it to a web service, etc. In this case the CHOOSER action should be used, to always present to the user a list of the things they can do, with a nice title given by the caller such as "Send this photo with:".
If you need to grant URI permissions through a chooser, you must specify the permissions to be granted on the ACTION_CHOOSER Intent in addition to the EXTRA_INTENT inside. This means using setClipData(ClipData) to specify the URIs to be granted as well as FLAG_GRANT_READ_URI_PERMISSION and/or FLAG_GRANT_WRITE_URI_PERMISSION as appropriate.
As a convenience, an Intent of this form can be created with the createChooser(Intent, CharSequence) function.
Input: No data should be specified. get*Extra must have a EXTRA_INTENT field containing the Intent being executed, and can optionally have a EXTRA_TITLE field containing the title text to display in the chooser.
Output: Depends on the protocol of EXTRA_INTENT.
Constant Value: "android.intent.action.CHOOSER"
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I just need to find where the UI is for the standard activity picker, so we can replace it with an older version
public static final String ACTION_PICK_ACTIVITY
Since: API Level 1
Activity Action: Pick an activity given an intent, returning the class selected.
Input: get*Extra field EXTRA_INTENT is an Intent used with queryIntentActivities(Intent, int) to determine the set of activities from which to pick.
Output: Class name of the activity that was selected.
Constant Value: "android.intent.action.PICK_ACTIVITY"
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This is how it used to be:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
If just clicking on "just once" bugs you, then geez.
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I agree it's super frustrating having to do this every time, i had hoped a double tap or something would have been baked in as an alternative.
DirgeExtinction said:
This is how it used to be:
View attachment 1169697
If just clicking on "just once" bugs you, then geez.
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That's exactly how it's always been. You're provided with a list of possible apps and you click the one you like to use that one time. If you find you keep using that one only, you could make this permanent and you're no longer prompted.
The behaviour I was hoping to see in JB4.1 was to still have the list of apps but to have it focused on the one I used the most or the last time. In 90% of the time I'd use YouTube to listen on my devices but in 10% of the time I'll use YouTubeRemote or TwonkyBeam or something else. If the list is long, I'd love to see it scrolled to the point where YouTube is in the middle and has the focus. The "Always" check-mark or selection is not even needed. One could long-touch the app they want to make favorite and be prompted if "Always", "Remove Always" or "Something else" would be the chosen behaviour from now on.
Thanks Android gets lots of attention from smart Devs and I'm sure someone will "fix" this soon.
Marv
I still can't believe Google devs made such a bad choice and probably 4.1.1 will correct this. Butter made tons of stuff smoother and faster but to add a double selection to every app start is baaaad :crying:
I personally enjoy this way of choosing a default app better than previous versions.
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Could there be legal reasons for this? As I recall, the HTC One X was stopped by Apple regarding a patent on this action chooser when clicking on phone numbers.
Apple "invented" hotlinking it seems (to wich it holds a patent), just like they invented everything since the wheel, and google decided to work around this, as to avoid another pointless lawsuit from apple for something apple didn't even come up with, but holds the patent to.
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Melhouse said:
Could there be legal reasons for this? As I recall, the HTC One X was stopped by Apple regarding a patent on this action chooser when clicking on phone numbers.
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Definitely a good thought. Does this even solve the problem as a work around? Maybe...
Copearch piger,
We all hear that Apple invented everything... it's ugly. The whole patent thing needs to go away, or I can't go to the washroom at the cottage - the sliding door opener has been there since late 1880-ies but now I know Apple invented it.
Back to my issue - I don't see how this is different in Linux, or even Windows 3.1 from last century. You click on a file with some .ext and you get to choose which app opens it from a list or possible ones and you might select one of them to be the default. I can't think of any other OS where you get the list, have to select the app and yet, have to make one more selection/click to say "just once". It just doubles the effort which was not a goal of Butter.
And to admin how much I hate that behaviour. After 4 days on JB4.1, I flashed CM9-nightly-Jul.1st last night.
Just relax. Once official code is released and custom roms are being created im sure someone will mod it.
DO YOU JELLY?
It seems that opening a new thread about this has caused way more unneeded clicks than you'll ever rack up by this change.
kevinjgray88 said:
Just relax. Once official code is released and custom roms are being created im sure someone will mod it.
DO YOU JELLY?
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That's what I see happening once the source code is released
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So, when I was in looking at one of the cards (for train times) I was presented with a number of options (maps, chrome, something else) I clicked chrome (and selected always). What I really wanted to do was select maps!!
Is there anyway to go back and change this for this specific action?
redmongoose said:
So, when I was in looking at one of the cards (for train times) I was presented with a number of options (maps, chrome, something else) I clicked chrome (and selected always). What I really wanted to do was select maps!!
Is there anyway to go back and change this for this specific action?
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You have to go into the app's (Chrome) settings and clear defaults. This app makes it a little quicker https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pxlib.android.defaultappset
Related
This thread will be dedicated for people posting about things they have done to improve the experience of using Android on their device.
I'll start of by posting some already known but may be new to new users.
In spare parts turn off animations and speed of transistion of windows. This should make navigating faster.
By doing this it should also automatically turn it off in the settings app.
Based upon your needs you can change how many apps may be open at any given time.
Dark Man X: i set in dev-tools (development settings) a process limit to 3 apps, now my diamond is much more stable and smooth
maybe someone helps who doesnt know this feature (like me)
Also first boot is always sluggish due to Android setting up everything. After you see the homescreen you should give it a good 5 minutes to settle in. Then reboot and reload haret again. You should notice the system is now more responsive and smooth.
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babijoee said:
This thread will be dedicated for people posting about things they have done to improve the experience of using Android on their device.
I'll start of by posting some already known but may be new to new users.
In spare parts turn off animations and speed of transistion of windows. This should make navigating faster.
By doing this it should also automatically turn it off in the settings app.
Based upon your needs you can change how many apps may be open at any given time.
Dark Man X: i set in dev-tools (development settings) a process limit to 3 apps, now my diamond is much more stable and smooth
maybe someone helps who doesnt know this feature (like me)
Also first boot is always sluggish due to Android setting up everything. After you see the homescreen you should give it a good 5 minutes to settle in. Then reboot and reload haret again. You should notice the system is now more responsive and smooth.
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When I restricted the process limit to 3 or even 4 apps in development settings I found that my exchange email started messing up. I could open the message list, but couldn't actually get an email to open. It kept closing out to the home screen. Removing the limit brought it good again. Was repeatable by selecting and removing limits. This is on a DIA100.
robh1234 said:
When I restricted the process limit to 3 or even 4 apps in development settings I found that my exchange email started messing up. I could open the message list, but couldn't actually get an email to open. It kept closing out to the home screen. Removing the limit brought it good again. Was repeatable by selecting and removing limits. This is on a DIA100.
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probally recommended for light users of android.
eg texting, phone, web and music.
Mr.Sir said:
It works great except for:
1. Camera doesn't work.
2. It literally EATS my battery and heats up the device a lot more than winmo. It's even a bit warm in hibernate.
I have no stability, lag or other animation issues. Fix those two points and we won't even need winmo anymore, except for booting android
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please read the topic before posting. we know this already, back onto topic.
I turned off auto-rotate display under display settings, this increased speed for screen tilts and removes the instability with launcher pro when extending/closing the hw keyboard. Eq no more force quit on launcher-pro when doing tilt+extend keyboard or.
Seems like launcher pro get's dual inputs both sensor and physical keyboard extend.
You will lose the auto landscape if keyboard is not extented, byt I never use landscape without keyboard anyway.
XDAndroid 2.2 Froyo 1.7.10 Beta
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CeasarRAPH100 said:
You will lose the auto landscape if keyboard is not extented, byt I never use landscape without keyboard anyway.
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Yup, which is why it's really not a big deal to turn off that rotation sensor feature
CeasarRAPH100 said:
I turned off auto-rotate display under display settings, this increased speed for screen tilts and removes the instability with launcher pro when extending/closing the hw keyboard.
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Im new To android on my verizon touch pro and my main complaint was how it would freeze trying to rotate all the time. I just tried this tip and now it is way more smooth.
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Android 2.2b2
Verizon touch pro cdma
Screen of death / SoD work around
This may be device dependent (it might or it might not work for your device) but you can download batterybooster; free download from market and the website HERE
Once you've installed it, run the application and look for the icon that looks like a sun, far right hand corner, and tap it. Set it to Never and it should never time out! Keep in mind, this work around circumvents the automatic back lgiht feature. So, you will need to manually turn off the screen (usually power key). The intent of this work around is to have the screen to remain ALWAYS on.
Additionally, if you haven't already enabled the installation from unknown sources, when you run the .apk, Android should walk you through this process. Also, if you are installing this from the market, it won't hurt to set the automatic screen off to greater than 10 minutes.
n-Joie! (Enjoy)
Good read!
Some interesting reading on THIS site; specifically for devs and ROM builders.
nueDriverProject is a project to eventually rewrite all existing HTC drivers in C to aid in optimization and other efforts.
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i cannot find stk menu on xdandroid and anyone knows how to install stk service?
reker said:
i cannot find stk menu on xdandroid and anyone knows how to install stk service?
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stk menu? stk service?
Please, explain more - I have not a clue what you are talking about.
stk = stock maybe Or are you talking about the SDK? Two entirely different trains of thought there, my friend. Also, which version are you running? There are quite a few out there as we speak!
Do, get back with us when you can!
arrrghhh said:
stk menu? stk service?
Please, explain more - I have not a clue what you are talking about.
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STK=SIM TOOL KIT
see wiki: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIM_Application_Toolkit
the sim card sell in china contain a built-in menu and it can perform some predefined functions, such as get the weather forecast or news thru sms, watch how many contacts the sim card can store, change my password of the sim, blablabla
in winmo, the stk service is built-in the rom, the service name is STK_Service, the filename is STK_Service.dll and i can access stk menu by running STK_UIPPC.exe
but in xandroid, i cannot find a useable stk service installer, i searched and found a stk.apk but i cannot install it on xandroid, when i try to intall it, it just tells me the application cannot be installed.
i noticed that the official android has included stk (com.android.stk can be found in /system/app/) but xandroid not include it
so.. does anyone know how to install it?
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reker said:
STK=SIM TOOL KIT
see wiki: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIM_Application_Toolkit
the sim card sell in china contain a built-in menu and it can perform some predefined functions, such as get the weather forecast or news thru sms, watch how many contacts the sim card can store, change my password of the sim, blablabla
in winmo, the stk service is built-in the rom, the service name is STK_Service, the filename is STK_Service.dll and i can access stk menu by running STK_UIPPC.exe
but in xandroid, i cannot find a useable stk service installer, i searched and found a stk.apk but i cannot install it on xandroid, when i try to intall it, it just tells me the application cannot be installed.
i noticed that the official android has included stk (com.android.stk can be found in /system/app/) but xandroid not include it
so.. does anyone know how to install it?
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This is outside of the scope of XDAndroid, it seems to be carrier-specific. We try to support all carriers, but that doesn't mean we can support every single function of every single carrier.
Stick to WinMo if this is a problem for you, or figure out how to get the apk working and let everyone know how you did it .
no, it's not carrier-specific, in fact, near half of carriers in the world use stk.
stk is supported by official android and the source of stk.apk could be found at packages/apps/stk in the android source code, but it cannot be installed on xdandroid
reker said:
no, it's not carrier-specific, in fact, near half of carriers in the world use stk.
stk is supported by official android and the source of stk.apk could be found at packages/apps/stk in the android source code, but it cannot be installed on xdandroid
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It is carrier-specific, and besides this is all for so-called 'value-added services'. You can't expect those to work on our port... If it's causing you grief either get a native Android device or go back to WinMo!!!!
@reker
It may not be supported by XDAndroid (the dev project) BUT it doesn't mean that you can not figure out how to support it and share this info. Keep in mind, ALL of this is made possible through the work and development of us, the members! If it was "so important" wouldn't you think that there would be support for it already?
GPS woes
At the moment, it has been reported that GPS does NOT work for Gingerbread. However, GPS should work in FroYo/FRX06(latest release to-date). It has been said that getting a lock(GPS lock) while in winmo, CAN reduce the length of time it takes to get a lock while in Android. Also, if you are running a ROM with QuickGPS, it is suggested to run it once before you run haret. This will also get a quicker GPS lock while in FroYo.
I'm a WP7 user, who also owns an iPod touch. Overall I like the WP7 experience, except for the app list - in my opinion it's killing the system.
On my Ipod I have probably around 200 apps. They are organised by page - so I have a page for games, a page for music apps, a page for productivity apps etc. With the newer version of iOS I've also made sub-folders on each page, but the point is; when I need X app I just swipe to the relevant page, then look for its icon.
This also has a nice side effect; when i'm bored, it's easy just to flick through the screens and find an app I want to play with.
On WP7 there is no quick way to find an app without knowing its name. For example, I installed a currency converter but to run I have to browse through a list of around 40 apps, looking for it. I don't remember what its icon looks like or its name as I use it infrequently - this process takes ages, and defies the point of having a smart phone, which you can quickly take out your pocket and look up something.
There is no real way you can memorise the names of 100+ apps, so the only choice is scrolling. However, having one long list is broken from a usability point of view, as every time you install a new app everything below in the list it gets pushed down a little bit. Therefore if you do learn how far down to scroll to find a specific app, it will eventually move and you won't find it again.
Finally, already there are tons of apps on my phone that I have forgotten I have installed. The list is not easy to flick through when bored, so infrequently used apps get neglected. Bare in mind I only have around 30 apps installed, and already I'm confused / lost..
All this could be solved so easily by adding groups, like the people hub has in Mango. Imagine being able to add groups at the top of the list like "Games", "Productivity", "Sound" etc, and a killer feature would be that you can add each app to multiple groups. Newly installed apps could even go in a default group called "Programs", bit like Windows.
This simple change would make the phone about 1000x more productive than now - thoughts?
Whatever do you need two hundred applications for???
I have around 50 apps installed on my WP7, and everything I need it for is covered. It is significantly easier to remember the names of 50 apps than 200, especially considering most apps on WP7 have reasonable names "London Travel", "Groceries", etc...
With the jump list feature in mango, it will become easier to page through a long list of apps as the app list will replicate the naviation of the people list, where you can click on any letter, then the letter you want, and jump straight to where you need to be.
I personally like the simplicity of the tiles and apps. I agree that another page on the left, where you could select a bunch of "frequently used, but not so frequently that I want them as live tiles" apps, would be a definite improvement though.
Aphasaic2002 said:
I'm a WP7 user, who also owns an iPod touch. Overall I like the WP7 experience, except for the app list - in my opinion it's killing the system.
On my Ipod I have probably around 200 apps. They are organised by page - so I have a page for games, a page for music apps, a page for productivity apps etc. With the newer version of iOS I've also made sub-folders on each page, but the point is; when I need X app I just swipe to the relevant page, then look for its icon.
This also has a nice side effect; when i'm bored, it's easy just to flick through the screens and find an app I want to play with.
On WP7 there is no quick way to find an app without knowing its name. For example, I installed a currency converter but to run I have to browse through a list of around 40 apps, looking for it. I don't remember what its icon looks like or its name as I use it infrequently - this process takes ages, and defies the point of having a smart phone, which you can quickly take out your pocket and look up something.
There is no real way you can memorise the names of 100+ apps, so the only choice is scrolling. However, having one long list is broken from a usability point of view, as every time you install a new app everything below in the list it gets pushed down a little bit. Therefore if you do learn how far down to scroll to find a specific app, it will eventually move and you won't find it again.
Finally, already there are tons of apps on my phone that I have forgotten I have installed. The list is not easy to flick through when bored, so infrequently used apps get neglected. Bare in mind I only have around 30 apps installed, and already I'm confused / lost..
All this could be solved so easily by adding groups, like the people hub has in Mango. Imagine being able to add groups at the top of the list like "Games", "Productivity", "Sound" etc, and a killer feature would be that you can add each app to multiple groups. Newly installed apps could even go in a default group called "Programs", bit like Windows.
This simple change would make the phone about 1000x more productive than now - thoughts?
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Here's what grouping the app list looks like -
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you can artificially group them on your start screen by doing something like this:
http://www.wpcentral.com/organise-your-start-screen-live-tiles
personally, the ability to add something to a hub, or to just have the option for folders would be helpful for people who want more control over the organization of apps, but i have maybe 50 apps installed and rarely do i find i'm missing an app for something.
andrewkeith5 said:
Whatever do you need two hundred applications for???
I have around 50 apps installed on my WP7, and everything I need it for is covered. It is significantly easier to remember the names of 50 apps than 200, especially considering most apps on WP7 have reasonable names "London Travel", "Groceries", etc...
With the jump list feature in mango, it will become easier to page through a long list of apps as the app list will replicate the naviation of the people list, where you can click on any letter, then the letter you want, and jump straight to where you need to be.
I personally like the simplicity of the tiles and apps. I agree that another page on the left, where you could select a bunch of "frequently used, but not so frequently that I want them as live tiles" apps, would be a definite improvement though.
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So now we are being judged for having too many apps? What business is it of yours (or anyone's) how many apps someone else has on their phone?
For people who have more use for their phone than 50 apps can satisfy, the current system, even with the jump list, is woefully inadequate. Too many app developers think they can be "clever" by giving their app a name that really has little bearing on its use. When you get too many of these on your phone, it becomes annoyingly difficult to remember the obscure names of all of these apps, so even the jump list and search features don't really help much.
Adding the option to pin apps to the top of the list (and then be able to drag them into a preferred order, similar to the way live tiles can be dragged around) would be a huge benefit to many of us. Even a "most recently used" list or the ability to group by marketplace category would help.
Aphasaic2002 said:
I'm a WP7 user, who also owns an iPod touch. Overall I like the WP7 experience, except for the app list - in my opinion it's killing the system.
On my Ipod I have probably around 200 apps. They are organised by page - so I have a page for games, a page for music apps, a page for productivity apps etc. With the newer version of iOS I've also made sub-folders on each page, but the point is; when I need X app I just swipe to the relevant page, then look for its icon.
This also has a nice side effect; when i'm bored, it's easy just to flick through the screens and find an app I want to play with.
On WP7 there is no quick way to find an app without knowing its name. For example, I installed a currency converter but to run I have to browse through a list of around 40 apps, looking for it. I don't remember what its icon looks like or its name as I use it infrequently - this process takes ages, and defies the point of having a smart phone, which you can quickly take out your pocket and look up something.
There is no real way you can memorise the names of 100+ apps, so the only choice is scrolling. However, having one long list is broken from a usability point of view, as every time you install a new app everything below in the list it gets pushed down a little bit. Therefore if you do learn how far down to scroll to find a specific app, it will eventually move and you won't find it again.
Finally, already there are tons of apps on my phone that I have forgotten I have installed. The list is not easy to flick through when bored, so infrequently used apps get neglected. Bare in mind I only have around 30 apps installed, and already I'm confused / lost..
All this could be solved so easily by adding groups, like the people hub has in Mango. Imagine being able to add groups at the top of the list like "Games", "Productivity", "Sound" etc, and a killer feature would be that you can add each app to multiple groups. Newly installed apps could even go in a default group called "Programs", bit like Windows.
This simple change would make the phone about 1000x more productive than now - thoughts?
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Nah man, it's just because you're so used to working with the 4x4 grid. Your brain is gonna pick up working with WP7 and you'll start remembering the names of apps, at least ones that you use frequently.
Worst case my friend, use the voice option to open the name of the app
OR
Hit the Magnifying glass and do a search of the functionality that you're looking for. Mango has it where it'll suggest apps for the tasks that you want to do.
As a tangent, I can't even imagine drilling down through so many levels of folders to find what I'm looking for, at least on a phone, that just sounds nuts to me.
ScottSUmmers said:
Hit the Magnifying glass and do a search of the functionality that you're looking for. Mango has it where it'll suggest apps for the tasks that you want to do.
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i didn't know mango had that as a feature, neat!
tired of these threads with these lousy childish complaints. use the jumplist, search feature or pin your most used apps to the start screen!!!! and be done with it, that's what it's there for!
Ok, so everyone always says "use the jump list" or "use the search function...
There is no jumplist. I have 86 apps in my applist and there's no jumplist.
There is no search. When I press the search button, I get the bing search. If I enter the name of any of my apps, all it gives me is bing search results. "Web" and "News". There's no option to search/find apps.
So please either stop telling use to use these non-existing features or tell us how to enable them. Until then: I want groups as well!
Not to pile on, but if you can't find a currency converter app on your phone that you installed in a list of 40 apps, maybe the phone isn't the problem. Additionally, if you believe finding an app within multiple pages with multiple sub genres is less confusing, I just don't know what to say.
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It's not too bad of a suggestiong, not sure why some are taking it so personally. Right now it's not a big deal but later on when you have a lot of apps, then it may be nice to have grouping. It will also probably look better visually, then just a plain list.
On the other hand, as others have already mentioned there are ways to get around it now, use the voice command.. it's works great. Or use the search grid. Or pin if you have too.
N0MN0M said:
use the voice command.. it's works great.
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while voice launching works surprisingly well, I'd just feel stupid in public (city, train) to yell "start nyan!"...
Localhorst86 said:
while voice launching works surprisingly well, I'd just feel stupid in public (city, train) to yell "start nyan!"...
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then PIN THE APP!!!!!
eric12341 said:
then PIN THE APP!!!!!
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And needlessly clutter the start screen. Brilliant idea, that one.
Localhorst86 said:
Ok, so everyone always says "use the jump list" or "use the search function...
There is no jumplist. I have 86 apps in my applist and there's no jumplist.
There is no search. When I press the search button, I get the bing search. If I enter the name of any of my apps, all it gives me is bing search results. "Web" and "News". There's no option to search/find apps.
So please either stop telling use to use these non-existing features or tell us how to enable them. Until then: I want groups as well!
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I'm assuming you don't have Mango. In Mango, you have the following
1. Jump list is activated when you have greater than 4X (I forget the exact number) apps
2. I just did a search for "restaurant reviews" and the first result is the Yelp icon with the ability to launch the app. It is under the web tab. In addition, there is a search button in the app list (under the arrow)
munkeyphyst said:
Not to pile on, but if you can't find a currency converter app on your phone that you installed in a list of 40 apps, maybe the phone isn't the problem. Additionally, if you believe finding an app within multiple pages with multiple sub genres is less confusing, I just don't know what to say.
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You are piling on, and you know it .
But let's take your specific example. I have the XE currency converter app on my phone. The problem is, in an effort to be clever, they put the "XE" in the icon, and called the app "Currency". So, looking at it in the list you still see "XE Currency".
If I used it every day, I'd get used to that. But I don't use it every day (and therefore DON'T, I repeat DON'T want to pin it to the start screen). And, the few times I have used it, my mind has focused on the fact that it is XE (since that has always been its name on the web site I've used for the past ten years, i.e. xe.com). Unfortunately, you won't find it under X in the list, but under C. And in a list of 150+ apps, it tends to get lost fairly quickly.
Seriously people, stop bashing others for not wanting to just settle for something less or not be like everyone else. Having groups/folders/etc. is a good suggestion. Also, a lot of your suggestions are for Mango, which many of us don't want to run yet as you loose a lot of homebrew on it nevermind it's Beta. So, in the end, stop crying because someone has a complaint or is giving constructive criticism. While you may like it exactly as is, not everyone does & having choices is better.
PG2G said:
2. I just did a search for "restaurant reviews" and the first result is the Yelp icon with the ability to launch the app. It is under the web tab. In addition, there is a search button in the app list (under the arrow)
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And you really don't see how monumentally inefficient it is to have to open bing and type in "restaurant reviews" and wait for the search results, just to launch an app that is already installed? I think that new feature of bing is more intended to help people recognize that an app they already have offers a feature they didn't know about or to allow them to install the app if they don't already have it, not to provide an efficient means to launch an app that you are already familiar with.
RoboDad said:
And needlessly clutter the start screen. Brilliant idea, that one.
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apps u most commonly use on a daily basis aren't " needless clutter" and its not MS' problem that u don't want to actually use the start screen.
eric12341 said:
apps u most commonly use on a daily basis aren't " needless clutter" and its not MS' problem that u don't want to actually use the start screen.
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You really need to pay more attention to what is written in the thread before responding. Read this again:
RoboDad said:
If I used it every day, I'd get used to that. But I don't use it every day (and therefore DON'T, I repeat DON'T want to pin it to the start screen).
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For Android 4.2 Try this:
mildlydisturbed said:
FYI, since I stumbled across this looking for 4.2 and it came up because *not 4.2* is in the title, in case it's not here - 4.2 how to (possibly depending on build)
adb shell
su
pm get-max-users (should show 1)
setprop fw.max_users (some number above 2, I chose 7)
pm create-user someusername here
repeat the create-user as wanted.
That popped up a "Users" tab for me after creating 1 that allowed me to create more.
Your mileage may vary, and I did this on a different device so I may just be useless
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Or this:
SferaDev said:
For those who doesn't to worry to do it wrong I've coded a app of this procedure.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2187934
See you!
Sent from my GT-I9000 using Tapatalk 2
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Only bug I noticed was that in order to switch from any non primary user back to the primary(as far as using a visual UI), your lock screen *has* to be in landscape mode. Easy enough I guess so have at it!
Thanks to everyone keeping the info flooding in on this subject. Hopefully KLP will have this baked in for phones as well.
Original Method for 4.1 below:
Been featured on the below sites!
XDA Portal
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/switch-user-profiles-on-jelly-bean/
XDA TV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLdt973MToM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Phandroid
http://phandroid.com/2012/08/02/and...but-confirmed-for-future-versions-of-android/
The Verge
http://theverge.com/2012/8/2/3216403/android-multi-user-feature-shown-off-developers-video
AndroidCommunity
http://androidcommunity.com/multi-u...ndroid-tweaks-enabled-in-jelly-bean-20120802/
Android Central
http://androidcentral.com.feedsport...s0Edefinitely0Enot0Efinished0Eyet/story01.htm
Slashgear
http://www.slashgear.com/android-multi-user-support-uncovered-in-jelly-bean-02241519/
OS News
http://www.osnews.com/story/26244/Android_4_1_has_rudimentary_multiuser_support
Phone Arena
http://www.phonearena.com/news/How-...unts-on-a-Jelly-Bean-device-right-now_id33001
Android Headlines
http://androidheadlines.com/2012/08...-multi-user-accounts-in-jelly-bean-video.html
PhoneDog
http://www.phonedog.com/2012/08/03/...r-accounts-on-android-was-a-long-time-coming/
Boxden(?)
http://slumz.boxden.com/f244/androi...-but-confirmed-future-versions-andro-1793277/
Geeky Gadgets
http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/androi...ple-user-accounts-in-action-video-03-08-2012/
DroidDog
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2012/08/root-set-up-user-profiles-in-jelly-bean/
Pocket Droid
http://www.pocketdroid.net/simple-multiuser-environment-hidden-android-41-jellybean/
*Insert Disclaimer Here*
Also, I have navigation bar mod on my 7/30 build of CM10, so ignore those.
This should work on any Jellybean Android 4.1.x ROM built from AOSP, like CM10, AOKP, etc.
Please read this entire post before doing any of this!
This feature is now in AOSP fully as of Android 4.2!!
After reading about the recent discovery of multiple user code being in JB, I decided to mess with it.
Here's a video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfHWV_-X3a8&hd=1
Manual method(fun, makes you feel like a hacker):
First, we need to enable this.
Go to Terminal Emulator and type these in:
Code:
su
Code:
pm create-user test
Hint: "test" being the name of the 2nd user. You can change that to a name, or whatever.
Now, we've created a 2nd User on your JB 4.1 device. Hold the Power/Lock button to bring up the power menu, and you should see this:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
From here, you can switch to the 2nd user, which will have a fresh homescreen, and show you the tutorial. Settings are limited to this user, as seen here:
mantian said:
In case someone hasn´t figured out how to rename/change any usename, it's pretty easy.
You only have to go to /data/system/users and edit the "userX.xml" file, where X is the user numer(0,1,2,...). The change the name between and to any other you like. For example, from guest to invitado. Save the file and reboot. It work well for me.
P.S: If you don't know which user number has the one you wanna change, check out the userlist.xml file, which has the same path above.
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To remove this 2nd user from your phone, switch back to the primary user via the power menu, and go back to Terminal Emulator.
Type this in:
Code:
su
Hint: only if it isn't still running from before
Code:
pm remove-user 1
Hint: primary user in this case is 0, 2nd is 1, so on and so on.
Now you should only have one user, and your Power Menu should not have the ability to switch to a new user anymore.
To double check, go back to the Terminal Emulator and type this:
Code:
su
Code:
pm list-users
Should say:
Code:
Users:
UserInfo{0:Primary:3}
Easy Method:
XDA member Raghav Sood has an app that does all of the above for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1824066
At the moment, this isn't extremely usable, ie texts from the primary user's still show in the 2nd test account. But, with the right launcher installed, and hiding the apps from the drawer on the 2nd account, this can still be usable in its current form.
My suggestions:
1.) Label the 2nd user Guest
2.) Use Nova or Apex as the launcher for the Guest user, and hide all of the apps you want(texts, social media, email, etc) from the app drawer.
3.) Setup a security lockscreen on the primary user to prevent Guests from gaining access(each user has different lockscreen settings)
You can read more about this here:
http://phandroid.com/2012/07/31/cod...oid/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews and on their source link.
Feedback:
cdesai said:
http://goo.gl/AnXT7
P.S. - This was done by modifying code in the Settings app, and i did submit the patch to CM Code-Review(http://goo.gl/PU4wQ), it ins't in yet as it's buggy.
We've tested it pretty extensively, and it's insanely broken.
I also submitted a patch to AOSP related to this(http://goo.gl/u0WbN), and it got rejected, due to what i said.
The below line comes a developer at google, who's been working on this since more than a year:
"Multi-user feature is not ready for deployment. Bad things will happen if you use it in its current state!"
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Roodborstje said:
I have it working om my GSM GN.
I found that in the second account there are apps that I don't have in the primary account, for example: Google Wallet, Play Magazines, Play Books and Play Films. (I'm from Belgium)
Oh, they disappeared as soon as I signed in with my Google account.
If you are on the second user, most of the data from the primary user is hidden (you can not acces it).
For example:
- photo's
- unlocked levels in Angry Birds
- music
- contacts
- google account
- clipboard
- home screen
But there are a few exceptions:
- all the apps are there, as if they were just installed
- the recent apps menu
- the use-app-as-default-setting (I don't know the official name). For example: if you set Apex as default in the Guest account, it will also be default in the primary account.
- your messages (!)
Ps: this was my first post on xda
I hope you find it usefull.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda app-developers app
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Sent from Mr. Z's Galaxy S3.
It. just. Looks. So .
Sexy :')
Great tut btw!!! I shall do this
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Dude, just awesome! This will come in very handy for my 2 year old! Thanks!
Uploading a video now of it.
Edit: Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfHWV_-X3a8&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Sent from Mr. Z's Galaxy S3.
this would be epic if this could work.
you could probably make some serious change in the marketplace also lol
Great! Also works in adb shell.
cypressious said:
Great! Also works in adb shell.
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i get 'stopped(sigsstop)' what wrong?
great! will come in very handy since im always working with Ethiopian children and trust me they're pretty smart they always blackmail me saying they'l send my contacts dirty pictures and messages. now its all going to be stopped ! thanks bro
NeoNikon said:
great! will come in very handy since im always working with Ethiopian children and trust me they're pretty smart they always blackmail me saying they'l send my contacts dirty pictures and messages. now its all going to be stopped ! thanks bro
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Good luck with that.... 0.o
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This is fantastic. I hope that there is more exploration of this. Would be perfect for tablets.
http://goo.gl/AnXT7
P.S. - This was done by modifying code in the Settings app, and i did submit the patch to CM Code-Review(http://goo.gl/PU4wQ), it ins't in yet as it's buggy.
We've tested it pretty extensively, and it's insanely broken.
I also submitted a patch to AOSP related to this(http://goo.gl/u0WbN), and it got rejected, due to what i said.
The below line comes a developer at google, who's been working on this since more than a year:
"Multi-user feature is not ready for deployment. Bad things will happen if you use it in its current state!"
cdesai said:
http://goo.gl/AnXT7
P.S. - This was done by modifying code in the Settings app, and the patch is on cm gerrit, just not ready to be let out yet.
I've also had a build up with that for quite a few days now, it's just that i didn't release it as it's unstable and not intended to be used now.
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One more reason to go cyanogen on tablets
Just tested with team eos jelly bean rom and it worked, on the motorola xoom MZ601
This is really cool. Now I just need Jelly Bean
I have it working om my GSM GN.
I found that in the second account there are apps that I don't have in the primary account, for example: Google Wallet, Play Magazines, Play Books and Play Films. (I'm from Belgium)
Oh, they disappeared as soon as I signed in with my Google account.
If you are on the second user, most of the data from the primary user is hidden (you can not acces it).
For example:
- photo's
- unlocked levels in Angry Birds
- music
- contacts
- google account
- clipboard
- home screen
But there are a few exceptions:
- all the apps are there, as if they were just installed
- the recent apps menu
- the use-app-as-default-setting (I don't know the official name). For example: if you set Apex as default in the Guest account, it will also be default in the primary account.
- your messages (!)
Ps: this was my first post on xda
I hope you find it usefull.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda app-developers app
Roodborstje said:
I have it working om my GSM GN.
I found that in the second account there are apps that I don't have in the primary account, for example: Google Wallet, Play Magazines, Play Books and Play Films. (I'm from Belgium)
Oh, they disappeared as soon as I signed in with my Google account.
If you are on the second user, most of the data from the primary user is hidden (you can not acces it).
For example:
- photo's
- unlocked levels in Angry Birds
- music
- contacts
- google account
- clipboard
- home screen
But there are a few exceptions:
- all the apps are there, as if they were just installed
- the recent apps menu
- the use-app-as-default-setting (I don't know the official name). For example: if you set Apex as default in the Guest account, it will also be default in the primary account.
- your messages (!)
Ps: this was my first post on xda
I hope you find it usefull.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda app-developers app
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That is really useful information
Just goes to show just how usable or unusable it can really be in its current state.
Sent from Mr. Z's Galaxy S3.
Can we do this with ICS?
Thank You...Works perfectly on my Galaxy Ace running maclaws JellyBean Beta1 4.1.1
BetoFlakeS said:
Can we do this with ICS?
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No. The code required wasn't implemented until Jellybean.
Sent from Mr. Z's Galaxy S3.
Great
PRadio is a Windows 8 Store App for Pandora. Unlike IE, this app allows users to stream music from Pandora recommendation service in the background. It works great on tablets such as Microsoft Surface. This app works only in the US. If you want to use it in other countries you need a US based proxy or VPN software such as openvpn.net
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Features Supported
* Add radio stations via the search charm
* Search for Genre, Album, Artist and Songs
* Delete radio stations via the app bar
* Pin radio stations to start menu
* Play/Pause/Skip songs
* Multimedia Keyboard Support
* Support for snapped view and portrait layout.
* History of Songs Played
* Share Song Information with other applications via share charm
* Provide feedback for a song
* Background Streaming
* Support for touch and tablets
To download the released version please visit the Windows Store and search for PRadio or open the following link in IE.
http://bit.ly/Yt9qT5
The app is only available in the US Store, if you are in another country you can switch to the US Store by going to "Control Panel\Clock, Language, and Region\ Change region."
[Update 12/14/2012]:
If you want to try out the latest version that will be available shortly on the store you will need to sideload the app. This version supports background music streaming on Surface RT even when the device is locked (Connected Standby).
Please follow the instructions given below:
1. Download Pandora_0.0.4.8_AnyCPU_Test and unzip to any folder e.g. xyz.
2. Open powershell as an administrator
3. Execute the following commands in powershell
a) set-executionpolicy unrestricted
b) cd xyz\Pandora_0.0.4.8_AnyCPU_Test
c) .\Add-AppDevPackage.ps1
[Note: Installation process might ask you to login to your Microsoft Account which is necessary to get the necessary certificates from the windows store to sign the package]
If you have feedback on the app, please post below.
What is Pandora?
Pandora Internet Radio, an automated music recommendation service and "custodian" of the Music Genome Project whose service in full is only available in the United States, with limited access in Australia and New Zealand. The service plays musical selections similar to song suggestions entered by a user. The user provides positive or negative feedback for songs chosen by the service, which are taken into account for future selections.
Wow, very nicely implemented for a third-party client! The snapped interface is very good as well. The interface when something *else* is snapped (which means it only has about 1040 pixels of width on the Surface) isn't perfect though (usable, but some stuff gets covered).
I'd be happy to sideload and test a new version.
EDIT: A bit more feedback: the app doesn't handle being backgrounded very gracefully. It will stop playing after the current song. I suppose that *could* be intentional, but it's annoying.
GoodDayToDie said:
Wow, very nicely implemented for a third-party client! The snapped interface is very good as well. The interface when something *else* is snapped (which means it only has about 1040 pixels of width on the Surface) isn't perfect though (usable, but some stuff gets covered).
I'd be happy to sideload and test a new version.
EDIT: A bit more feedback: the app doesn't handle being backgrounded very gracefully. It will stop playing after the current song. I suppose that *could* be intentional, but it's annoying.
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Thanks for the feedback, I just posted instructions to sideload the new version.
It should not stop playing after the current song, this is not intentional. Can you send me the following PRadioInformation.log file which should be present in
%appdata%\..\Local\Packages\28268splashtetra.PRadio_80qntxqrmk3vj\LocalState folder
Sorry, I should correct myself: it won't start the next song if the screen is off. Turning the screen on by itself won't start playing agian, either; you either have to use the media control and hit Play, or log in and have the app at least partially in the foreground.
If you still need the log I'll post it here in a bit.
GoodDayToDie said:
Sorry, I should correct myself: it won't start the next song if the screen is off. Turning the screen on by itself won't start playing agian, either; you either have to use the media control and hit Play, or log in and have the app at least partially in the foreground.
If you still need the log I'll post it here in a bit.
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Are you using a Surface RT or an ARM based tablet? If yes, I believe it is going into connected standby. In connected standby, windows does not let the app get the next playlist. I need to use a different set of API to support this scenario. As soon as I get hold of an ARM tablet I will add support for this. If this is not an ARM based tablet then please send me the logs.
GoodDayToDie said:
Sorry, I should correct myself: it won't start the next song if the screen is off. Turning the screen on by itself won't start playing agian, either; you either have to use the media control and hit Play, or log in and have the app at least partially in the foreground.
If you still need the log I'll post it here in a bit.
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Hi GoodDayToDie or any Surface RT user,
I have created a new version 0.3.3 of the PRadio which hopefully should work in your machine. Can you give it a try? I do not own one yet so I cannot try it myself.
Instructions are given below.
Thanks
Instructions:
1. Download Pandora_0.0.3.3_AnyCPU_Test and unzip to any folder e.g. xyz.
2. Open powershell as an administrator
3. Execute the following commands in powershell
a) set-executionpolicy unrestricted
b) cd xyz\Pandora_0.0.3.3_AnyCPU_Test
c) .\Add-AppDevPackage.ps1
[Note: It might ask you to login to your Microsoft Account that is necessary to get the necessary certificates to sign the package]
Thanks! Yes, I'm using Surface RT. I'm sideloading your app now and will report later.
EDIT: Works fine! I had to uninstall the current (store) version first, but it preserved my configuration (you using the roaming AppData?) so that was no problem.
The music playback did cut out eventually, but I'm guessing that's intentional (just the "are you still there?" check, perhaps) since it was after an hour or so of inactivity, and as soon as I brought he app forward again it resumed. I'm on a free account, BTW (used to subscribe, but between them not creating a WP7 app and the advantages of Zune Pass instead, I let it lapse).
One piece of feedback: you could put a lot more info on the About page. Version would be good, for example, and I didn't actually see attribution for the CC-licensed artwork, just a mention that it was CC-BY. Other than that, love it!
Seems to be working all nice and proper for me now too, on RT.
Eats far less CPU than letting IE run in desktop mode.
Edit: Every once in a while there seems to be a delay for it loading the next song of 30-45 seconds. Not critical, just noting.
Edit2: More feedback.
1) I can't forward to the next song from the volume menu.
2) It seems to stop playing after an hour and a half or so, on a Pandora One account.
3) It'd be nice if it could remember the last station and start playing on launch
4) Related, it'd be nice if it automatically logged in on launch, not sending you to the login screen. Perhaps a settings option to clear the stored user settings, and make it log in automatically?
5) I suspect this is more of an OS issue, but outputting through a USB sound card and putting the device to sleep causes the audio to become garbled and broken.
6) The formatting seems to be a bit off in portrait mode, the 'Log Out' button on the top clips over the station name, and there's a considerable amount of deadspace at the bottom of the screen (probably a good 1/3 of the screen is wasted)
And, are the advertisements on it yours or Pandora's? If they're Pandora's, it'd be nice if you could detect if it's a Pandora One account.
does this work for cdn. IP addresses? regular pandora won't let cdn IP users
i know on android, you have to use ORBIT something app, forgot the name, and on iphone you use that hot shield free VPN
Thanks for the feedback GoodDayToDie & netham45.
The music playback did cut out eventually, but I'm guessing that's intentional (just the "are you still there?" check, perhaps) since it was after an hour or so of inactivity
>> I know why it fails to play after an hour....Connected Standby, I will fix this in the next release.
>> you could put a lot more info on the About page. Version would be good, for example, and I didn't actually see attribution for the CC-licensed artwork, just a mention that it was CC-BY
I will add version in About page. Currently if you run the app and in taskmanager search pandora.exe, right-click and go to properties you can see the version. I will add attribution too. Good catch!!
>> I can't forward to the next song from the volume menu.
Forwarding is currently disabled as Pandora does limit the number of skips after some time. If a users keeps on skipping he/she will eventually hit this limit and there is no UI to message this to the user. This also prevented my app to be certified in the store so i decided to disable it for now till i figure out a better way to deal with this.
It'd be nice if it could remember the last station and start playing on launch
Good feedback, I will add in the next release.
Related, it'd be nice if it automatically logged in on launch, not sending you to the login screen. Perhaps a settings option to clear the stored user settings, and make it log in automatically?
Currently it should automatically login based on the credentials stored on the machine. Do you want a way to clear the settings?
I suspect this is more of an OS issue, but outputting through a USB sound card and putting the device to sleep causes the audio to become garbled and broken
Interesting....Thanks for reporting it. I would need to get hold of a USB sound card to try this out. Was this on the RT device?
The formatting seems to be a bit off in portrait mode, the 'Log Out' button on the top clips over the station name, and there's a considerable amount of deadspace at the bottom of the screen (probably a good 1/3 of the screen is wasted)
Thanks Log Out button should not have appeared. Will fix it and i will try to make better use of the real estate.
And, are the advertisements on it yours or Pandora's? If they're Pandora's, it'd be nice if you could detect if it's a Pandora One account.
The advertisements are mine...Not Pandora's maybe i can reduce the number of advertisements if that is a big eye sore. Thanks again for the feedback.
cobyman7035 said:
does this work for cdn. IP addresses? regular pandora won't let cdn IP users
i know on android, you have to use ORBIT something app, forgot the name, and on iphone you use that hot shield free VPN
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If you use any VPN software to connect to US based server (I tried openvpn.net although has a data limit) you should be able to use the app to listen to pandora via the app. Give it a try and let me know how it goes.
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Thanks for the feedback GoodDayToDie & netham45.
Related, it'd be nice if it automatically logged in on launch, not sending you to the login screen. Perhaps a settings option to clear the stored user settings, and make it log in automatically?
Currently it should automatically login based on the credentials stored on the machine. Do you want a way to clear the settings?
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It sends me to the login screen most of the time when I launch it, or if I come back to it if it's been inactive for 5-6 hours.
hsalps said:
Thanks for the feedback GoodDayToDie & netham45.
I suspect this is more of an OS issue, but outputting through a USB sound card and putting the device to sleep causes the audio to become garbled and broken
Interesting....Thanks for reporting it. I would need to get hold of a USB sound card to try this out. Was this on the RT device?
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Yes I'm using RT, though further testing shows that I get the same result no matter what music app I use, so I blame the OS.
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It sends me to the login screen most of the time when I launch it, or if I come back to it if it's been inactive for 5-6 hours.
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Can you send me the PRadioInformation.log file which should be present in %appdata%\..\Local\Packages\28268splashtetra.PRadi o_80qntxqrmk3vj\LocalState folder? This should help me understand why it is not saving the password on RT.
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Yes I'm using RT, though further testing shows that I get the same result no matter what music app I use, so I blame the OS.
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Can you also give details of the USB audio device like Manufacturer, Version etc? I will report this to Microsoft.
Superb app good sir! lives on my second monitor if not just for the cool background
Thanks!
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Superb app good sir! lives on my second monitor if not just for the cool background
Thanks!
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Thanks cammykool!!
why not put it up in the windows store?
The previous version is actually already up there. We've been helping test the next release, at which point hsalps will presumably release a store update.
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Can you send me the PRadioInformation.log file which should be present in %appdata%\..\Local\Packages\28268splashtetra.PRadi o_80qntxqrmk3vj\LocalState folder? This should help me understand why it is not saving the password on RT.
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I can't seem to get it to replicate it now. =/
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Can you also give details of the USB audio device like Manufacturer, Version etc? I will report this to Microsoft.
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I've tried it with two Microsoft LifeChat LX-3000 headsets and a generic unlabeled USB audio card.
so im using a test build?
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why not put it up in the windows store?
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The store guys are approving the latest version of the app right now (Takes 7 days ). I will update this thread when it is available on the windows store. The older release is already in the store.
I know optimus G has QSlide feature but how can I use it? I checked out youtube videos about QSlide but I cannot find the qslide button at the top right corner at all. Do I need to enable that feature? How?
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drancid said:
I know optimus G has QSlide feature but how can I use it? I checked out youtube videos about QSlide but I cannot find the qslide button at the top right corner at all. Do I need to enable that feature? How?
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It's in the video app, but it only works on local videos afaik.... unless...someone hacks it...
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It's in the video app, but it only works on local videos afaik.... unless...someone hacks it...
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I installed an alternative that works with youtube videos, streaming videos, as well as local videos, but the [email protected]#$ing app chooser is GONE from this phone. On every other tablet/phone that i've ever used that runs android, it allows me to pick which app i'd like to open up the video/file in. The defaults are cleared, there are no options, etc.
Whats going on?!?!!?!?!?
EMO RAGE!!!!!!
They removed the app chooser from android? WHO does that?
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I installed an alternative that works with youtube videos, streaming videos, as well as local videos, but the [email protected]#$ing app chooser is GONE from this phone. On every other tablet/phone that i've ever used that runs android, it allows me to pick which app i'd like to open up the video/file in. The defaults are cleared, there are no options, etc.
Whats going on?!?!!?!?!?
EMO RAGE!!!!!!
They removed the app chooser from android? WHO does that?
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What app did you try? If it ends up working you should post a link in the app section, i've been wanting something like this.
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What app did you try? If it ends up working you should post a link in the app section, i've been wanting something like this.
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Super Floating Video.
It works on every device i have except my Optimus...so either LG did some funky butt stuff with the app chooser--forcing youtube videos to be viewed in the youtube app....and the like: or their build isnt recignizing that there's an alternative player for it. Android itself wont present options if theres only one app available...but the issue isnt just with videos. Its with web page links as well....which is why i know that LG has done something stupid.
If it happened with videos alone, id blame it on the app.
But because it happens with links as well (we at least have the stock browser in addition to chrome), i know its LG's doing...its either baked into the ROM, a glitch, or im missing a setting somewhere. The latter 2 are highly likely. Extremely highly likely.
Popup Browser is the browser id like to use, however, ive installed firefox as well...and it doesnt even present me with that option.
IMO the browser needs some HW acceleration work, but aside from panning, moving and resizing is smooth and buttery as hell. Its especially nice for clicking on links in the G+, Facebook, or Twitter apps....you can view the page, read, navigate, or visit a site, and then close out of it without leaving the app. Its also nice for keeping a dictionary open, or other reference material while reading the news, an ebook, or other material. For added functionality, add a quicklaunch dock/bar to your notification tray....so you can always launch the app, even if youre not doing so by clicking a link.....for instance, if youre watching/streaming live TV or a movie, and you want to look of a movie or actress.
The video app is great.
The app can play video streams, and in addition to youtube, it can manage embedded software and hardware decodable files, as well as all streams playable via mobile video (H.264 and the like.).
Install either and let me know if you have the same issues.
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Super Floating Video.
It works on every device i have except my Optimus...so either LG did some funky butt stuff with the app chooser--forcing youtube videos to be viewed in the youtube app....and the like: or their build isnt recignizing that there's an alternative player for it. Android itself wont present options if theres only one app available...but the issue isnt just with videos. Its with web page links as well....which is why i know that LG has done something stupid.
If it happened with videos alone, id blame it on the app.
But because it happens with links as well (we at least have the stock browser in addition to chrome), i know its LG's doing...its either baked into the ROM, a glitch, or im missing a setting somewhere. The latter 2 are highly likely. Extremely highly likely.
Popup Browser is the browser id like to use, however, ive installed firefox as well...and it doesnt even present me with that option.
IMO the browser needs some HW acceleration work, but aside from panning, moving and resizing is smooth and buttery as hell. Its especially nice for clicking on links in the G+, Facebook, or Twitter apps....you can view the page, read, navigate, or visit a site, and then close out of it without leaving the app. Its also nice for keeping a dictionary open, or other reference material while reading the news, an ebook, or other material. For added functionality, add a quicklaunch dock/bar to your notification tray....so you can always launch the app, even if youre not doing so by clicking a link.....for instance, if youre watching/streaming live TV or a movie, and you want to look of a movie or actress.
The video app is great.
The app can play video streams, and in addition to youtube, it can manage embedded software and hardware decodable files, as well as all streams playable via mobile video (H.264 and the like.).
Install either and let me know if you have the same issues.
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Yeah, i'm not saying it was the app's fault, i was just curious as to what app you used. I'm pretty sure LG isn't doing it on purpose to lock anything down either, since I get the prompt for everything I should and I haven't seen this anywhere else. Sounds like you just have a really weird bug. Anyway, thanks for the app.
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Yeah, i'm not saying it was the app's fault, i was just curious as to what app you used. I'm pretty sure LG isn't doing it on purpose to lock anything down either, since I get the prompt for everything I should and I haven't seen this anywhere else. Sounds like you just have a really weird bug. Anyway, thanks for the app.
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No problem. As far as adding functionality goes...id be hard pressed to find anything a manufacturer has ever really done for android in the past year (before that, too?) that wasn't a gimmick, and actually improved the device. Samsung did, however. Their implementation handles window management better, but LG's implementation would have been superior, in this man's humble opinion, because the transparency settings are key. Historically, LG has been week in the software section, and this just makes the opinion people have of them as a company even more vindicated. But the popup Video player is definitely a case where invention is the mother of necessity. I don't think I could ever go back and live without a popup browser and video player. It was kinda a goof; the fact that were forced to use third party tools because of laziness...in a era where almost all of our video watching on portable devices is done via streaming, playing YouTube videos is a must. I'd much rather streaming be built in.
And this isn't a unique situation...it is kinda unfortunate...their software isn't just weak...it's horrid. Exponentially more so than even companies like Archos. But they only fail in this aspect for a lack of trying. They're focused on the Korean experience, where they do well. Apparently North America is just the icing on the cake.
But these dynamics put in place some awesome potential. I also think that because of this, we could see one of the best Nexus devices ever made. LG is equally As impressive in comparison to Samsung in hardware, and both companies own their own display business, and advanced manufacturing nodes, allowing them to innovate on aspects where the devices of the future will be made. Their weakness in software makes them the PERFECT company for the nexus line of products. They get to focus on what they do best--hardware, and leave the software to the guys who do it best--google. Because of this, they benefit from a nexus lineup more than any other company could. I expect to see a Nexus tablet in the next year or so from LG.
Just as well, the Nexus name will land them something they'd never otherwise get in the U.S....market penetration, and mind share. They were unable to offer anything compelling in the functionality department before, but the partnership, with a promise to give them the latest and greatest set up possible, with an up-to-date pure android experience is compelling as hell. Hopefully this is the start of a pure android brand.
Its a case of perfect harmony....a company that cares about hardware, and produces some unique and groundbreaking technologies, that doesn't care much for/about software, teamed up with a company that knows how to provide the best software experience for any mobile device.
I know this is more than you bargained for, but I thought this discussion segued extremely well into what we can, and should expect from the future of our devices.
A pure android experience is probably minutes away for the Optimus G, once we get our hands on the code we need. Then, we'll have a superior device. And it'll work the way it should.
Anyways, like I said....there must be a setting I'm missing somewhere or something, I have the same exact configuration on all of my devices....so either its a weird, weird bug pertaining to a really specific use case, or a setting I'm missing-about after I had the issue, I literally put the phone down, and won't touch it again until I figure this out.
Jamesyboy said:
I installed an alternative that works with youtube videos, streaming videos, as well as local videos, but the [email protected]#$ing app chooser is GONE from this phone. On every other tablet/phone that i've ever used that runs android, it allows me to pick which app i'd like to open up the video/file in. The defaults are cleared, there are no options, etc.
Whats going on?!?!!?!?!?
EMO RAGE!!!!!!
They removed the app chooser from android? WHO does that?
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The app chooser dissapears after you set a default app. You can go into the task manager under the default tab and remove the default player. Should ask again.
Im using optimus l9 (which is similar to G) and qslide has been added with jb. It's available through notifications or via native app like 'videos'. It looks like this:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
after clicking 'videos' or selected video in gallery, there is simple 'inverted full-screen icon'.
I want to know how the new qslide works
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