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[Q] MMS and 4G?

Sorry if this has been asked/answered. I couldn't find a thread about it in my search.
My question is how to get MMS working over 4G?
If my 4G radio is on, MMS won't send or receive. I have to drop down to 3G to get either to go. Has anyone else experienced this, or know of a fix? Right now I'm running Myn's Warm 2.2 RLS2 rom, but I also had the same problem on Ava Froyo v9 so I'm thinking it's not a rom issue.
Thanks

That could be because 4G is more like Wifi than it is 3G, and you can't send MMS over Wifi. So whenever you want to send an mms, you gotta turn on your 3g, send, then turn it off. Or you can leave 3g, and go to your wireless and network settings and disable "3g always on." 3g should be inactive when you're using only 4g and then go active as soon as you begin sending an mms.

ms79723 said:
That could be because 4G is more like Wifi than it is 3G, and you can't send MMS over Wifi. So whenever you want to send an mms, you gotta turn on your 3g, send, then turn it off. Or you can leave 3g, and go to your wireless and network settings and disable "3g always on." 3g should be inactive when you're using only 4g and then go active as soon as you begin sending an mms.
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That would be awfully annoying, and a really large flaw in 4G if I have to turn off 4G every time I want to send or receive an MMS message.
I couldn't find that option you said, the only thing I could find that even sounded similar was under Settings -> Wireless & Networks -> Mobile Networks and it was called Enable always-on mobile data.
I turned that off and still couldn't send with my 4G radio on. Not sure if I have to reboot for the change to take effect or something, because I didn't do that.

bump. Still curious if this is by design or if there's something I can fix.

crackerstyle said:
That would be awfully annoying, and a really large flaw in 4G if I have to turn off 4G every time I want to send or receive an MMS message.
I couldn't find that option you said, the only thing I could find that even sounded similar was under Settings -> Wireless & Networks -> Mobile Networks and it was called Enable always-on mobile data.
I turned that off and still couldn't send with my 4G radio on. Not sure if I have to reboot for the change to take effect or something, because I didn't do that.
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ah, thats what i meant "enable always-on mobile data." leave that enabled, then while you're on 4g and you send something through MMS, it will keep you connected on 4g, and activate your 3g at the same time, sending the MMS.
Edit: Sorry about my first post in this thread, i meant to say enable that option, not enable.

ms79723 said:
That could be because 4G is more like Wifi than it is 3G, and you can't send MMS over Wifi. So whenever you want to send an mms, you gotta turn on your 3g, send, then turn it off. Or you can leave 3g, and go to your wireless and network settings and disable "3g always on." 3g should be inactive when you're using only 4g and then go active as soon as you begin sending an mms.
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I can send and receive MMS with WiFi just fine.

ms79723 said:
ah, thats what i meant "enable always-on mobile data." leave that enabled, then while you're on 4g and you send something through MMS, it will keep you connected on 4g, and activate your 3g at the same time, sending the MMS.
Edit: Sorry about my first post in this thread, i meant to say enable that option, not enable.
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It was enabled by default, so it was already enabled when I had this problem.
freeza said:
I can send and receive MMS with WiFi just fine.
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I'm talking about 4G, not wifi.

My only other thought is that 4G isn't official in my area yet, it's in testing I'm guessing since i pull a signal, but Sprint doesn't acknowledge there is $g here on their site.

freeza said:
I can send and receive MMS with WiFi just fine.
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Out of curiosity how?
I tried sending an SMS over wifi while in airplane mode and it wouldn't work.

crackerstyle said:
Out of curiosity how?
I tried sending an SMS over wifi while in airplane mode and it wouldn't work.
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Doesn't airplane mode cancel wifi?

m4rk0358 said:
Doesn't airplane mode cancel wifi?
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Nope, I was using it that way on a plane back on Weds of last week. Tried to send an SMS text and it wouldn't let me. internet browsing was working fine.
I figure that's the only way you should use a cell phone on a plane, as just turning off mobile data doesn't disable the phone signal too.

freeza said:
I can send and receive MMS with WiFi just fine.
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+1 i'm on wifi at home and sent mms all day long on wifi

crackerstyle said:
I'm talking about 4G, not wifi.
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4G is a advanced type of wifi

mms is sent through mobile data only, not 4g not wifi
when you are on wifi your 3g will randomly connect for mms updates/refresh, on 4g your 3g will do it too, it will be a concurrent connection with no visible connection
airplane mode shuts it down completely so if on wifi in airplane mode there are no mms

crackerstyle said:
Out of curiosity how?
I tried sending an SMS over wifi while in airplane mode and it wouldn't work.
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That's because SMS needs a mobile connection as it uses the physical cell network to send.
MMS, on the other hand, does not. MMS can be sent on another data source (wifi, etc..)

snapbox said:
That's because SMS needs a mobile connection as it uses the physical cell network to send.
MMS, on the other hand, does not. MMS can be sent on another data source (wifi, etc..)
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Curious then, as my MMS messages won't send if I have my 4G radio on, but SMS will.
Didn't try MMS when I was on the plane and just on wifi..
Jbcarrera said:
+1 i'm on wifi at home and sent mms all day long on wifi
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With your data off?

I too must disable 4g to send mms... I am on frost and flashed to another "senseless sense based Rom" both were using the aosp mms program, I wonder if thats the problem????

[Q]sending mms via WiFi ?

something i have noticed is when sending pic messages from home on wifi is not working. If i have wifi on my phone will just say sending for ever. if i turn off wifi and the 4g pops back up then the pic gets sent. i dont thing i have any toggle set. I do not have llama on the phone. So my question is does this phone send mms over wifi or just over the network?

am i the only one with this issue? i did a phone exchange a week ago and I noticed the new phone had the same thing so two phone same experience...any ideas?

How is your signal at home? U can't send mms over WiFi, only data

Mine will send while connected to wifi.
Using tapatalk on my Galaxy 2 to post this!

Mine sends MMS when wifi is on also. I would only have 2 bars and on edge and it still sends in like 20 secs

Im having the EXACT same problem with you. I have the tmobile version model, SGH-T989. I got online with a rep at tmobile for 2 hours trying to resolve this. After a point she said galaxy s 2 doesnt have voice chat over wifi which I didnt understand what that had to do with not being able to download or send attachments via mms. She basically said you have to have data enabled in order to send and receive pictures. I was pissed because my brother's mytouch g is part of my family plan, and he is able to receive attachments while just being connected on wifi. My issue is that I only have edge, not even 3g connection at my home. I don't know what to do. I searched for apps to fix this. But no luck. Anybody else tried fixing this?

StinkyK said:
Im having the EXACT same problem with you. I have the tmobile version model, SGH-T989. I got online with a rep at tmobile for 2 hours trying to resolve this. After a point she said galaxy s 2 doesnt have voice chat over wifi which I didnt understand what that had to do with not being able to download or send attachments via mms. She basically said you have to have data enabled in order to send and receive pictures. I was pissed because my brother's mytouch g is part of my family plan, and he is able to receive attachments while just being connected on wifi. My issue is that I only have edge, not even 3g connection at my home. I don't know what to do. I searched for apps to fix this. But no luck. Anybody else tried fixing this?
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Your brother can receive them while on wifi, but not "over" wifi. It has to access data to get mms. You'll see data turn on when on wifi when a pic is coming in.

MMS won't send when connected to wifi

Anyone else having this problem? When I go to send a picture message it won't send if I'm connected to wifi. It just says "sending..." until I cancel it and connect to the mobile network (Verizon btw)
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

buckley101 said:
Anyone else having this problem? When I go to send a picture message it won't send if I'm connected to wifi. It just says "sending..." until I cancel it and connect to the mobile network (Verizon btw)
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
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Mine still works when on wifi. Make sure you have mobile data enabled.

Did you resolve your problem?
I have the same issue...
I can send and receive mms, but not with wifi connected.
In the settings there is no "always send/receive mms" to select.
In GB there is a setting to always send/receive mms, that auto turns on mobile data, and the turns off mobile data when done.
Now I have to turn off the wifi, and then manually turn on mobile data.
If I don't do both of these the message just says sending but does not actually send.
Can anyone help?
Galaxy Nexus
AOKP Milestone 4

I'm pretty sure mms can't be sent via wifi and can only be sent via your mobile network/mms APN.

I had this for a while as well. One of the builds of AOKP eventually fixed it for me.

Unlawful said:
I'm pretty sure mms can't be sent via wifi and can only be sent via your mobile network/mms APN.
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This is correct. But the phone is supposed to automatically switch back to the cell network and send the mms, then go back to wifi. Thats how my previous android phones work.

My last phone DHD, varoious roms from 2.2 to 2.3.7 would all (if connected to wifi) enable mobile data to send or receive MMS and then disable mobile data when finished. I would not have to manually swith anything on or off.
There is a setting to allways allow MMS that could be selected.
Now using AOKP milestone 4, Franco kernel Milestone 1, if wifi is connected I must manually switch it off, then manually enable mobile data to send or receive MMS.
If wifi and mobile data are both off, I must still enable mobile data before it eill send or receive.
My APN settings are ok as i can send and receive MMS, it just does not do it automatically.
I don't think its the rom either as i have the same issue with Code Name Droid.

it seems strange..in the stock sms app its checked the automatic receive (or something similar) under mms settings?
also do you have 2 apns, one with type default, and one with type mms?
do you have some apps that interfer with the activation of the mobile data? like juice defender or similar

Yes I have 2 APN's, a default mobile data and a MMS apn.
I use the stock message app which does have an auto retrieve setting to select and is selected.
but the always receive setting im talking about is in the Mobile network settings.
2.3.7 has the follow listed under "mobile network settings"
Data enabled
Always receive MMS
Data Roaming
Network type selection
Access point Names
Network Operators
4.0.3 AOKP has:
Data enabled
Data Roaming
Access Point Names
Use only 2G network
Network Operator
The "always receive MMS" setting is missing, I think this setting is responsible for doing it automatically.
I posted a couple of screen shots of the settings in both.

anyway searching around it seems a problem with a lot of stock android roms
the 2.3.7 screenshoot u posted its a custom rom..
seems (im not sure) the androd aosp roms in every nexus (nexus one and nexus s too) miss the option to always receive mms even on gingebread..so if u really want receice mms, u have to enable the mobile data..or probably look for a custom rom that have that option
by the way i think i sent one or two mms in my life not a big problem though

LOL
yeah I only send 1 a year my self...
Looks like i have to do it manually, won't be givin up AOKP for it.
Thanks for the help.

Are other people not seeing this? MMS might as well not be an option on my phone. Sometimes it kind of works, other times it out right does not work. WiFi on/off. Whatever. Super frustrating. I'd love to find some sort of hack. I've tried different radios, APNs, different images now, etc.. I'm an unlocked HSPA user on AT&T.

gpfnzl said:
Yes I have 2 APN's, a default mobile data and a MMS apn.
I use the stock message app which does have an auto retrieve setting to select and is selected.
but the always receive setting im talking about is in the Mobile network settings.
2.3.7 has the follow listed under "mobile network settings"
Data enabled
Always receive MMS
Data Roaming
Network type selection
Access point Names
Network Operators
4.0.3 AOKP has:
Data enabled
Data Roaming
Access Point Names
Use only 2G network
Network Operator
The "always receive MMS" setting is missing, I think this setting is responsible for doing it automatically.
I posted a couple of screen shots of the settings in both.
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I can send/receive mms while on wifi, im running 4.1.1
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

thanks for the info.
Since this feature is rom specific, anyone know which roms have it built in there ?
I'm on Eclipse 2.1, build 4 (4.1.2, Toro) it does not have this available.

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buckley101 said:
Anyone else having this problem? When I go to send a picture message it won't send if I'm connected to wifi. It just says "sending..." until I cancel it and connect to the mobile network (Verizon btw)
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
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I know this is old thread, but I've recently encountered this problem on rooted MMuzzy 4.2.1. When WiFi is on and someone sends me a MMS from an iPon, I get a "Download" button. I have Automatically DL set in the Messaging app. If I turn off WiFi, then it will download. Happens in both Handcent (set as the default app) and stock Messenger.

mms with hyperdrive not working with wifi enabled

Is anyone else having an issue with hyperdrive and mms? my phone seems to work fine, but the wife's will not send mms when connected to wifi. turn off wifi and sending works fine as does receive.
receive when the phone is on wifi though pops up an SMS with a download button that you can click but fails until wifi is turned off.
att carrier with the stock phone Apn.

Tmobile MMS

Does anyone else have issues sending and receiving MMS on Tmobile while on wifi? I do have wifi calling enabled but turning that off doesn't help. MMS goes through fine if I turn off wifi and use network data instead, however.
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using xda app-developers app

I remember reading about this on another blog so did a quick search to see if a solution had been discovered. You may want to try this potential solution.
tct08 said:
Does anyone else have issues sending and receiving MMS on Tmobile while on wifi? I do have wifi calling enabled but turning that off doesn't help. MMS goes through fine if I turn off wifi and use network data instead, however.
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Yes there is no problem.

tct08 said:
Does anyone else have issues sending and receiving MMS on Tmobile while on wifi? I do have wifi calling enabled but turning that off doesn't help. MMS goes through fine if I turn off wifi and use network data instead, however.
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using xda app-developers app
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Thanks for the reply! I tried it out and double checked the settings but not only did it not help I could no longer get lte so I switched back to the original setting.
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using xda app-developers app

I have no problems
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MMS with stock app works fine on and off wifi but I can't get MMS to work on wifi with hangouts.

nycebo said:
I remember reading about this on another blog so did a quick search to see if a solution had been discovered. You may want to try this potential solution.
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I was having trouble receiving MMS after using the T-Mobile tethering fix listed here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2715450
And this fixed it! Thanks!!

jayr04 said:
MMS with stock app works fine on and off wifi but I can't get MMS to work on wifi with hangouts.
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Was having the same issue and solution (use HTC's native messaging app). I just tried the fix that nycebo suggested and it worked. BUT, sending a pic was pretty slow. So slow that I thought it was going to fail (same symptom as when it was failing to send). Eventually it went thru and I'm also able to receive pics.
Hopefully, this resolves group messaging which is basically MMS as well.

cman6453 said:
Was having the same issue and solution (use HTC's native messaging app). I just tried the fix that nycebo suggested and it worked. BUT, sending a pic was pretty slow. So slow that I thought it was going to fail (same symptom as when it was failing to send). Eventually it went thru and I'm also able to receive pics.
Hopefully, this resolves group messaging which is basically MMS as well.
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Works now thanks.

Turns out the culprit actually was wifi calling? I turned that off and now I can send mms.
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using xda app-developers app

Yes you can. there is no problem.

tct08 said:
Turns out the culprit actually was wifi calling? I turned that off and now I can send mms.
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As I mentioned earlier, group texts are handled as MMS's. Last night the M8 was put to the test. Had an issue come where the wi-fi was partially to blame. Group text consisted of 6 people with a sprinkling of pics attached. Some of their texts and pics were getting thru while some weren't. I was on wi-fi and there is a 4-5 bar LTE signal in my area. Wi-fi calling is set to cellular preferred. Not only did some of the texts not come thru but the ones that didn't were also separated out from the group thread. I hit the download link and nothing. No error message. Nothing. Just went back to "Download message". Granted this was on the locked APN. I switched to the custom APN. Still nothing.
This worked before so I try again. I turn off the wi-fi. BAM. All the texts of the separated out people start coming thru AND they get put back into the thread.
So yes, the culprit is wi-fi but I've had wi-fi on on my Note 3 and this was never an issue. Also, in the middle of the group texts, I swap the sim into my Nexus 5 using Hangouts with wi-fi enabled and there was no problem there.
I think the root cause is the way HTC's Android implementation is handling the switching between wi-fi and the carrier network. Seems to me the message should try sending via wi-fi and if that doesn't work use carrier network. I don't know enough about the protocol to say this is for sure the case but that seems to be a logical explanation.

cman6453 said:
I think the root cause is the way HTC's Android implementation is handling the switching between wi-fi and the carrier network. Seems to me the message should try sending via wi-fi and if that doesn't work use carrier network. I don't know enough about the protocol to say this is for sure the case but that seems to be a logical explanation.
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Curious if this is still a problem.
I am getting a GPE this week, but I need to be on wifi only at work all day and get MMS/group MMS
GPE doesnt have the option to use stock messaging (I assume Hangouts only, which I have seen has known issues MMS via wifi)
Will I be able to get MMS/group messaging on wifi only (wifi calling enabled) ?
Use Textra until Hangouts gets this working ?