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[Q] Defy+ Temporary bricking due to overheating?

Yeah, got a major issue: My Defy+ is overheating and I usually end up with a blocked phone, which ends up being useless for about 4-5 hours. And it's becoming more often.
I have 2.3.4 on it, but I seriously doubt 2.3.6 solves this issue.
Any tips?

Deformat said:
Any tips?
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Try custom ROM's and DO NOT flash 2.3.6 full sbf as it's quite buggy and you'll be stuck with it.

You could also try to undervolt the CPU. In what conditions do you get an overheated phone?

vap_66 said:
You could also try to undervolt the CPU. In what conditions do you get an overheated phone?
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How could I do that?
Also, I get it for no reason whatsoever. It gets overheated and that's it. I left it to cool about 4 God damn hours, and yet when I open it it works a bit, then it gets stuck. It's as if the memory isn't well processed.
To give ya an example, I left it over night and even charged it. Everything went fine.Then, got to school, got a break, wanted to listen to a song. Fine, listened to a song. A guy wanted to waste some time on Opera Mini with his Ikariam game. Fine, let him waste that 1 tab and browse online.
But then, when he gave it to me it was stuck.
Wait a lot of time to stop it via Android's button, did it eventually. Left it to cool 2 hours, tried again. Again, after less than 3 minutes of usage (wanted to share a file via bluetooth, but got to the folder only) it got stuck again. This time it was pointless, 30 minutes later I wasn't able to stop it so I took the battery off.
I kinda don't know if I should change it or still have faith in it.
Right now stuff seems worse. Sometimes it reboots itself, but that doesn't help with anything IMO.
BTW, would the 1% battery patch help? Might put that 720p functionality in there as well.

As Auris said, try flashing a custom ROM (CM7.2 is a good choice, stable and fast enough). For undervolting (if you are on a stock ROM only - because CM7 has a built-in CPU manager, accessible from the bootmenu) ), install SetVsel from the Play Store. Like PC overclocking/undervolting, be careful about the values you choose. You'll find a thread in the General section about SetVsel values.
If these ideas don't help you solve your problem, I think it might be hardware related.
Trimis de pe Defy CM9

My defy+ gets really hot on just about everything except stock! Undervolting didn't help, nor underclocking. Putting it in the fridge temporarily helped, but when I started using it again the temp climbed again!
What should I do? :-/
Sent from my Defy+ using Tapatalk 2 Beta

Well, since you flashed custom ROMs (unlike the OP), how about the baseband? I remember that when I flashed CM7 for the first time I didn't get 3G signal and the phone was overheating because the signal was too poor for the baseband that I used. Switched between a few and finally managed to get one with good signal and 2G/3G/3.5G working fine.

I never use 3G, so I've never bothered changing it. By the way... what are the differences between basebands with the same frequencies?
Could flashing a different kernel solve it?
Sent from my Defy+ using Tapatalk 2 Beta

Well, there are different regions - I don't know the technical details, but maybe some basebands work better with certain network operators. It's a trial&error method, you could choose one that works better or one that performs worse.
Regarding the kernel: I have no idea about the heat dissipation, but from what I've read there is a GB kernel that supposedly has better battery life. Ask Auris, he uses it (it's the kernel by walter79).

Okay, seems the issue solved itself, since now it works perfectly :|
I didn't play a game, which was kinda retarded: low quality, a simple Android game, and playing Temple Run/Angry Birds/ Angry Birds Space didn't give you me any issue.
I don't get it.

[Q] Galaxy Nexus CPU temp

Hello all
This is my first post and Galaxy Nexus is my first Android phone.
So, when i bought my GNex it was on stock and I use Stock ROM about 3 days. In that period he never get any warm - not even whet I play Angry Birds RIO for about 30min.
Then my brother install me latest AOKP ROM and Franco kernel - great stuff, but now I feel heat around camera
I use TempMonitor PRO app and this is my results :
all apps close, not starting anything - around 32C
Gallery, cam, some apps started and closed - from 38 to 42C
Playing games (Angry birds RIO, Space, Sentinel HD) - 48 to 52C
My question is this :
Is that normal temp? How does Stock didn't heat that much
Tnx and i hope this will help if someone have the same question

Hi,
Your CPU temp is absolutely normal,no worries.And while playing games it's even perfect.
How does Stock didn't heat that much
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You're not stock now...
After it depends at what CPU freq you're running,voltage,ambient temperature,etc...but here it's perfect.

I just posted in another users similar thread about their phone getting hot (he said "extremely" hot so hes likely going way past your temps). I too have found my phone to be warmer when running AOKP Build 38. I've run the Stock ROM and LiquidSmooth with Francos Kernel (also tried Provision briefly but it had some issues I couldnt overlook). AOKP gets the hottest by far for me (both at stock CPU and OC to 1420).
I plan on switching ROMs again soon and will take note of temp then

If you use a less feature rich rom you might have less heat issues.
I suggest using the trinity kernel together with a cm9 rom.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

Your temps are fine but if you want to find something a little "cooler" try out different combinations. For me, CM9 and Trinity Stable 65 at 1344/384 stays pretty cool while gaming. Ultimately it is going to be a factor of your clock speed. You can adjust the frequency of your CPU back down to 1200 (1190?) and you'll see the temp difference. You might also see it slow down during certain UI interactions. Just play around with it, but your phone is still considered in the safe zone at those temps. They have thermal protection built into the kernels as well so even if something crazy happened your CPU would back off until cooldown and if it can't cooldown, it'll shut off for you but that would be a very rare condition. I've never had it happen and I've ran at 1650Mhz for a long time.

Tnx all for info. Great help!
Hmm it would be nice to get back to Stock but to keep root and maybe to install franco kernel... What you say about that?
It's iritating to play game 5 min or look pic in gallery and to feel heat in phone!
One more thing because I'm new in this stuff :
How to get back to Stock? Is it hard?

Your CPU is probably overclocked, don't worry, as long as it stays UNDER 55 degrees C, nothing will happen, if however, it goes over, it will burn your hand, if you're unlucky, it happened to me, with my GS II...

familyguy59 said:
Your CPU is probably overclocked, don't worry, as long as it stays UNDER 55 degrees C, nothing will happen, if however, it goes over, it will burn your hand, if you're unlucky, it happened to me, with my GS II...
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Hi,
Why under 55°C???
The stock temp limit before thermal throttling is 64°C and in Francisco's kernel it's at 75°C.
And the max before the CPU shutdown is 110°C...The extreme protection and the extreme overheating
So above 55°C no worries...In any case if you don't disable the CPU temp limit (like in some kernels->Morfic,Glados and eventually Francisco but not (yet) in his app) you're good and before 110°C->thermal throttling->lower CPU freq according to the CPU Temp limit.
His CPU temp is actually normal,don't say stays under 55°C....56/57/58/59°C,etc...to 64°C or 75°C,no problem unless you stay at 75°C during 1 hour...
With that you said the guy no longer used his phone for browsing 5 mins in the sun...

familyguy59 said:
Your CPU is probably overclocked, don't worry, as long as it stays UNDER 55 degrees C, nothing will happen, if however, it goes over, it will burn your hand, if you're unlucky, it happened to me, with my GS II...
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55 is a very low number and i would suspect most stock GNexs would go above that routinely under heavy load.
I've had my phone up to 66 and its nowhere near burning. Its warm to the touch and thats about it. Now if you are somehow putting your hand directly on the CPU (i.e. not possible) then yes that might feel much warmer.
Basically if you manage to burn yourself on your phone either its already fried or someone lit it on fire

After playing ShadowGun around 15min I get temp. around 65C?! That is really hot - for me!
I think to get back to Stock... This is way hot for me. What you say about that?
Can anyone post link how to get back to Stock? Guys this is my first android phone and if I get bootloop I will get a heart attack, really I will get one

Nemesis_GNex said:
After playing ShadowGun around 15min I get temp. around 65C?! That is really hot - for me!
I think to get back to Stock... This is way hot for me. What you say about that?
Can anyone post link how to get back to Stock? Guys this is my first android phone and if I get bootloop I will get a heart attack, really I will get one
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Honestly don't be afraid of boot loops as you can most likely still get into recovery if that happens and all it takes it's a bad download of a ROM or forgetting that such and such kernel is incompatible. Be afraid of bricks and soft bricks lol. Although if you take the time to read before doing anything you'll be fine. Also just download a sick image for your phone from the tool kit to go back to stock. That's the easiest way.
Sent from my tin can using a string.

Hi,
65°C after playing 15 mins of an "intensive" 3D game...I don't see where is the problem...It's absolutely normal...
How can your CPU temp will be at 50/55°C (about,for example) after playing 15 mins of game???
You hope what temperature?
Which cpu frequency?GPU?Undervolt?
Don't focus much on your CPU temp,if it's overheated->thermal throttling...And in extreme situation...just a reboot...
It will be the same thing with the stock kernel,you will get the same temperature under the same conditions (playing)...

Unfortunately that's the way it is right now with dual core phones. My phone regularly gets too hot to even touch when playing games for over 30 minutes. I called to speak with samsung about it and they pretty much brushed it off as normal. I'm running on cm 9 with a franco kernel
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[Q] Arc S become very hot

Hi all,
My girlfriend has an Arc S, and when she plays the phone becomes hot.
The phone is stock. (locked bootloader ....)
Would it be better to unlock the bootloader, to unlock like mine?
I have an Arc S also debrand, unlock bootloader ..
My Arc S virtually no heat.
Thank you in advance for your response.
(sorry for my english, I'm French ...)
Sincerely TheCrowNambourg

Is your girlfriends phone rooted? and if so has she overclocked her CPU? if not it probably has something to do with her CPU being damaged or glitched

Thank you for your response.
Not his phone is not root, and not overcloker either.
I have not done anything on it, at least not yet. lol
Since it is still under warranty, can be a return to sav?

return the phone if its still under warranty and unmodified and get it replaced with another Arc/Arc S

MrModMan said:
Is your girlfriends phone rooted? and if so has she overclocked her CPU? if not it probably has something to do with her CPU being damaged or glitched
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you can't overclock processor without custom kernel, and can't install an custom kernel without bootloader unlocked.
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TheCrowNambourg said:
Hi all,
My girlfriend has an Arc S, and when she plays the phone becomes hot.
The phone is stock. (locked bootloader ....)
Would it be better to unlock the bootloader, to unlock like mine?
I have an Arc S also debrand, unlock bootloader ..
My Arc S virtually no heat.
Thank you in advance for your response.
(sorry for my english, I'm French ...)
Sincerely TheCrowNambourg
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it is normal to become hot because the processor is hight demand.

So it would be normal as it is boiling?
A return guarantee would be necessary?
thank you very much for your response.

its normal for tha Arc to become very hot from the upper of the back i have the same phone so dose three of my frinds and all have the same proplem it gets very hot when you open wifi or internet in general or play games or make long calls on the phone but switching the network to GSM only and reduce brightnes of the screen to about 80% and turning off wifi help reducing the heat

My Arc S doesnt get hot at all and i have CM7.2 flashed and underclocked, this might help your girlfriends problem
-root phone
-install a custom kernel (may not be needed for underclocking)
-underclock the phone (reducing heat on the phone, not recommended if you play 3D graphiced games)
that should make it less hotter... hope this helped

Ok, thank you very much for your answers.
Since it plays a Kinectimals, it is not advisable to underclocked?

it is still recommended to root and install custom kernel and rom just to make it less hot.. of course, dont forget the better battery life too!
i'm using jj hybrid with arcknight kernel and ever since, have not really notice any abnormal amount of heat while using the phone as compared to last time using stock kernel and rom

My Arc Pure White also hot near camera area when gaming and use in long time. I still use stock firmware 2.3.4 build .42 and still warranty.

arc s getting hot is a normal thing when browsing or playing games or using 3G..it is not abnormal..people who says their arc s doesnt get hot at all probly never played any games..so guys chill...any hardware will get hot if it is under stress..

TheCrowNambourg said:
Hi all,
My girlfriend has an Arc S, and when she plays the phone becomes hot.
The phone is stock. (locked bootloader ....)
Would it be better to unlock the bootloader, to unlock like mine?
I have an Arc S also debrand, unlock bootloader ..
My Arc S virtually no heat.
Thank you in advance for your response.
(sorry for my english, I'm French ...)
Sincerely TheCrowNambourg
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Yes, it becomes hot... You don't even know how much after overclocking. It's normal, don't worry.

On cm7 it never got heat up but on gb and ics mainly while charging and gamingbor both it become to hot near camera n i think its common not an issue
Reducing kernal speed to 1 ghz mayb the solution bcz in cm it is the default speed

G3 Normal Temps, throtlling?

Hello guys. i am Kia as you can see.I bought g3 beacuse i want to record some rom reviews and tutorials for it. I previously had lg g2 and i had no any issues and then i bought xperia z3 and i didnt like it much. After that i bought lg g3. Ye, awesome phone but i experience sometimes throttling (sorry if i misspelled) (cant use 100 percent of brightness etc. .). Also today i was watching some videos and multitasking (for about 30-45 mins) and then i downloaded antutu benchmark just to see what score i will have. Then i runned test and i got just 25k?! I was like wtf.... (temp was about 66 ,maybe a bit more, celsius, it wasnt bad) and i putted away phone and after 30 mins i runned test again, i got 40k (is that normal score for g3, im bored of searching....) and temp there was like my idle 57-60 (at 60% brightness). I just dont know was that some kind of error or that was some hardware throttling or what? (due to overheat or what?)
Should i worry about my temperatures? What are yours idle and full load temps?
Thanks for any answer

Hi Kia,
Yes youre right when the device gets too hot,it throttles to save the core components from further damage. Also dont worry about benchmarks too much. In the words of Chainfire, they arent that vital. What matters is th performance of the phone on day to day tasks.
Can you do me a favor? Install the app for specs called Hardware Info https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dama.hardwareinfo&hl=en
and post a screeenshot of the Display,Processor,Back Camera and Sensors.
Thanx

zeeshanonlyme said:
Hi Kia,
Yes youre right when the device gets too hot,it throttles to save the core components from further damage. Also dont worry about benchmarks too much. In the words of Chainfire, they arent that vital. What matters is th performance of the phone on day to day tasks.
Can you do me a favor? Install the app for specs called Hardware Info https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dama.hardwareinfo&hl=en
and post a screeenshot of the Display,Processor,Back Camera and Sensors.
Thanx
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Thanks for your reply,

Guys, what are normal (idle) g3 temperatures? And what are full load, I think I should send my phone on warranty? I get 55-60 idle and 70 full load? (CPU temps)

Question RedMagic 6S Pro EU V3.18 charging issue

So, i was on V3.15
I got update notification of V3.18 (3.7gb?)
I clicked.
My phone battery was behaving normal, calibrated and charge current speed 5200mAh.
I upgraded to V3.18 and booom, charge current shows always half of the value.
But it charges still 5200mAh but device thinks the input current is 2500-2600mAh.
My phone is EU variant. 16/256 Ghost Edition.
I downgraded to V3.15 (yes i lost data) and problem solved. I upgraded again to V3.18 and hello, problem is back!
This causes battery to be miscalibrated.
For over a week using this update and it still persists, it did not settle down.
So now when my battery hits 18% and i charge and it hits 56%, then its not 56% but in fact, its ~80%.
Charging while phone is fully shutdown is same too. It seems like the kernel is giving false info to device. So when phone system reads 2600mAh it moves percentage by that. So when this happens it thinks it charges alow and raises percentage slow accordingly too but in fact it still charges full speed.
Anyone else experiencing this issue? Using original cable and charge adapter.
Been sending video recordings/screenshots and 8min long of video of me talking/shutting down system/rebooting but the customer service denies to admit they messed up V3.18 charging parameters. They refuse.
So tell me. Who else is experiencing this issue?
It only happens on newest OS update (NX669S_EUCommon_V3.18).
So please, if you experience same issue, write it down here and contact customer service and give them link to this thread.
Raise awareness. I fresh installed V3.18 and it still happens! Wiped data, still happens!
Not normal!
Been using this update over a week with no luck.

Greetings, I am in the exact same situation like you with the latest EU update. Just created my account to post here, since I was browsing around the web searching for eventual fix for this issue. Sadly, I am unable to downgrade to the previous version and this is driving me crazy.
Can you suggest me a way to downgrade? (there is no factory reset option, nor wiping partition in boot mode works)

newpower84 said:
Greetings, I am in the exact same situation like you with the latest EU update. Just created my account to post here, since I was browsing around the web searching for eventual fix for this issue. Sadly, I am unable to downgrade to the previous version and this is driving me crazy.
Can you suggest me a way to downgrade?
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You cant downgrade, if you do you will lose all data on phone with downgraded version.
The customer support i exchanged 15emails or so and they simply dont admit its their mistake. They just fool with me.
My belief is they intentionally try to ruin our battery to go for the new redmagic 7 device.
They even "overcharge" our phone. My phone alerted me at 74% (overvoltage battery charge stops). Voltage on battery raised up to 4.5voltage because battery charges still fast at 95-99% even tho phone thinks its at 74%.
But no, this Nubia company denies to admit their mistake with my proofs and tests.
Their technical team doesnt even check.
I mean they just need to put this update in their device and then charge from ~20% to 100% and they will see it.
We need more people gathering here up and to make our voice be heard. Come on guys everyone please stand up!

Sachitoge said:
You cant downgrade, if you do you will lose all data on phone with downgraded version.
The customer support i exchanged 15emails or so and they simply dont admit its their mistake. They just fool with me.
My belief is they intentionally try to ruin our battery to go for the new redmagic 7 device.
They even "overcharge" our phone. My phone alerted me at 74% (overvoltage battery charge stops). Voltage on battery raised up to 4.5voltage because battery charges still fast at 95-99% even tho phone thinks its at 74%.
But no, this ******* company denies to admit their mistake with my proofs and tests.
We need more people gathering here up and to make our voice be heard. Come on guys everyone please stand up!
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I can cofirm the same voltage warning as well. This is really worrisome. I am fine losing all my data, just want to downgrade to safest version

newpower84 said:
I can cofirm the same voltage warning as well. This is really worrisome. I am fine losing all my data, just want to downgrade to safest version
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https://help.redmagic.gg/hc/en-us/articles/4412024271001-REDMAGIC-6S-Pro
3.15 is the previous one we had before this bug arised.
I flashed 3.15 lost all data, then upgraded problem came back at 3.18.
But on 3.15 there isnt any.

Posted to their support with a link to the thread as well, we will search our rights if this is intentional with the release of RM7...

I also noticed, the cpu 4 main cores get stuck at 100% sometimes (for 20min or 1-2hours) causing huge heat build-up and extra high battery usage.
Sometimes it fixes itself and then quickly comes again stuck at 100%.
Only way to fix it is by rebooting phone.
Really sucks. When this happens, and you charge phone and play with charge separation, the phone goes very high temperature.
This is gaming phone? With problems?
Their kernel is bad. Their developers just DONT put effort. they cant release a simple normal clean kernel... I swear, if they dont fix these issues i will for sure go back to OnePlus as my next device, i had no such issue....

Sachitoge said:
I also noticed, the cpu 4 main cores get stuck at 100% sometimes (for 20min or 1-2hours) causing huge heat build-up and extra high battery usage.
Sometimes it fixes itself and then quickly comes again stuck at 100%.
Only way to fix it is by rebooting phone.
Really sucks. When this happens, and you charge phone and play with charge separation, the phone goes very high temperature.
This is gaming phone? With problems?
Their kernel is bad. Their developers just DONT put effort. they cant release a simple normal clean kernel... I swear, if they dont fix these issues i will for sure go back to OnePlus as my next device, i had no such issue....
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They better release a proper update soon, I was wondering why the hell we had an update of almost 4GB without any concrete patch notes, neither new android ... now I understand why ...

newpower84 said:
They better release a proper update soon, I was wondering why the hell we had an update of almost 4GB without any concrete patch notes, neither new android ... now I understand why ...
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This stuck cpu issue been since initial release for months.
Sometimes dont u notice battery heats alot way more than before while doing same thing?
At times its 37c and then at times hits 40c.
Fun thing is when i plug charger it suddenly shows my battery is fallin from 39c to 35c.
Zzz this company and device, probably my first and last redmagic device.
Big regret...

Sachitoge said:
This stuck cpu issue been since initial release for months.
Sometimes dont u notice battery heats alot way more than before while doing same thing?
At times its 37c and then at times hits 40c.
Fun thing is when i plug charger it suddenly shows my battery is fallin from 39c to 35c.
Zzz this company and device, probably my first and last redmagic device.
Big regret...
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I have noticed some spikes in my battery indeed, just didn't do deep digging as you did. I will definitely pay closer attention to this strange behavior from now on ... starting to get even more worried now

It wasnt like this before.
Now it just loves to stay there.

newpower84 said:
I have noticed some spikes in my battery indeed, just didn't do deep digging as you did. I will definitely pay closer attention to this strange behavior from now on ... starting to get even more worried now
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There is hope

Sachitoge said:
There is hope
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Thanks for the update. I am still waiting response. /pray

Still didnt receive any update.

I got the following:

newpower84 said:
I got the following:
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We have to wait.
Im regularly checking manually update through the app.
I noticed something.
Sometimes i see CPU is very aggresively piking to 100% the first 0-3 cores (4 cores).
Its the small cores maxing to 100% frequency very often.
But at other times it doesnt and i noticed. When it doesnt spike to 100% alot, the phone is battery friendly and doesnt heat alot even during charge, but at random moment this gets triggered and cpu becomes super aggresive for NO REASON!
This is SUPER frustrating!
Very poorly optimized phone, i will definitely not buy a RedMagic phone ever again.
My next device simply OnePlus back.
Im VERY disappointed in RedMagic... Gaming phone? Really?
Nice joke.

Sachitoge said:
We have to wait.
Im regularly checking manually update through the app.
I noticed something.
Sometimes i see CPU is very aggresively piking to 100% the first 0-3 cores (4 cores).
Its the small cores maxing to 100% frequency very often.
But at other times it doesnt and i noticed. When it doesnt spike to 100% alot, the phone is battery friendly and doesnt heat alot even during charge, but at random moment this gets triggered and cpu becomes super aggresive for NO REASON!
This is SUPER frustrating!
Very poorly optimized phone, i will definitely not buy a RedMagic phone ever again.
My next device simply OnePlus back.
Im VERY disappointed in RedMagic... Gaming phone? Really?
Nice joke.
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I noticed the peeks too... Very disappointed as well...

newpower84 said:
I noticed the peeks too... Very disappointed as well...
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The video fixes the stuck cpu parameters 80% of time.
It seems like an issue lying down in the phone OS.
RedMagic Gaming phone? Hah! CONSUMER NEEDS TO POINT THESE BASIC ISSUES? What is this
Even a 200$ phone doesnt have such issues.
The video is proof of the issue being unnecesarily running 4 cores at full peak and load.
Causing unnecesary heat buildup and battery drain.

I just got the following answer from their support:

newpower84 said:
I just got the following answer from their support: View attachment 5566221
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What is that english i dont get it.
This device so disappointing....
I swear people that reviews these gaming devices are retards.