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Why does the screen scratch so easily?!

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Resistive touch screens have to be made of a plastic soft enough that you can flex it to push it down in contact with the lower layer. It's a tradeoff, and another reason people prefer capacitive.

vin5cent0 said:
I'm so upset over this... today I had my phone in my pocket with a plastic contact lens case and it puts 4 small yet noticeable scratches on the plastic screen. WTH?!!?!?? Not the kind of quality I would expect out of a phone for this price!
I've left old phones in my pockets with keys before and never got much damage on them, and they were much cheaper phones.
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Why you would put a phone so expensive in your pocket with another object with sharp, hard edges without at least a screen protector is beyond me. Besides the fact that the touchscreen is basically an ENTIRE side of the device. My recommendation is to get a screen protector, they can be had for fairly cheap on eBay.

Tell me you at least applied the screen protector included in the box before you tossed it in your pocket?!!

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vin5cent0 said:
Sorry but you're a dumbass if you think a contact lens case is sharp!
It doesn't matter too much because I have about 5 dead pixels on my screen and vzw is replacing it. Guess I know now that this phone requires ghost armor or something before it scratches from me looking at it too hard.
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I've worn contacts for several years, and some cases have sharp ridges that are made of hard plastic that can scratch a screen like the TP2 w/enough pressure. As it stands, you're the one with a scratched up screen that can't piece two and two together...

Alright guys, get back in your corners! haha...
Anyway, the lessons to take away from this are the following
-use a screen protector (it's just sensible to splurge $10 for a piece of plastic that can effectively protect your $500-$600 device)
-if your device will be in contact with other objects (sharp or not), use a case.
-if your device will be in your pocket with no case protecting it, you shouldn't put anything else in your pocket.

In the future you can replace the housing or something so the screen will be like new again. However, the first thing I usually do when purchasing a phone such as this one is put a decent screen protector on it to avoid situations like this. I usually always put it in a phone sock when putting it in my pocket.
Funilly enough it's an ipod sock

vin5cent0 said:
Sorry but you're a dumbass if you think a contact lens case is sharp!
It doesn't matter too much because I have about 5 dead pixels on my screen and vzw is replacing it. Guess I know now that this phone requires ghost armor or something before it scratches from me looking at it too hard.
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I guess your rudeness was fairly compensated with your scratched phone. Someone offered a simple suggestion and you respond so unwarrantedly. Maybe you deserved it after all.

LordLugard said:
I guess your rudeness was fairly compensated with your scratched phone. Someone offered a simple suggestion and you respond so unwarrantedly. Maybe you deserved it after all.
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Gotta love karma

vin5cent0 said:
Sorry but you're a dumbass if you think a contact lens case is sharp!
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Anybody wanna bet on which way the "Who's the dumbass?" poll would go????

Anybody used one of the available screen polish products to remove tiny scratches from a resistive touchscreen? Any recommendations?

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vin5cent0 said:
I donno if I'd recommend that. Screen seems pretty soft, and the only way to remove a scratch is to remove layers of plastic to even it out. Might do some damage to it.
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Yea ive only ever used it on a psp and ipod screen which is much harder than a resistive touchscreen. Even though it will probably work to some extent if the scratches are minor, it could end up having adverse affects on the screen. Your best bet is probably to ride it out and wait for the price of replacement screens to go down, and then replace it.

rubbing screen too much

As you all must know by now, the desire is a monster fingerprint magnet and from this I tend to wipe my screen a lot, most times on my jeans as its a bit quicker lol, my question is does this extensive rubbing damage the touch screen in any way?
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Yes and no.
Yes, because you might get scratches etc.
No, because it won't affect how good the 'touch' of the touchscreen keeps working.
So it will mostly be an aesthetics issue

Get a decent screen protector on it to eliminate any worries. I'm one of those who also like to clean the screen.
There is a thread asking about oleophobic protectors, which would be ideal, but apart from the anti-glare ones, there doest seem to be any available.

From what I understand about oleophobic screen protectors it's that they are only oleophobic if they are made out of a polymer that contains some form of a silicone compound.
Finding something that specialised probably isn't going to be easy though.

abc27 said:
From what I understand about oleophobic screen protectors it's that they are only oleophobic if they are made out of a polymer that contains some form of a silicone compound.
Finding something that specialised probably isn't going to be easy though.
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I have a protective case for my Desire, so that should keep it safe from scratches from other stuff in my pocket. I've been considering getting a screen protecter, but...what's the point again? If it gets scratched (which will surely happen more quickly, because they're plastic) then I'll want to get another one, and they can be a pain to remove.

poldie said:
I have a protective case for my Desire, so that should keep it safe from scratches from other stuff in my pocket. I've been considering getting a screen protecter, but...what's the point again? If it gets scratched (which will surely happen more quickly, because they're plastic) then I'll want to get another one, and they can be a pain to remove.
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I'd rather have a scratched piece of cheap plastic than a scratched ~€500 phone.

abc27 said:
I'd rather have a scratched piece of cheap plastic than a scratched ~€500 phone.
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Obviously, but the screen is glass and the protectors are plastic. So it would very easily get a minor scratch on the plastic which I'd then need to replace, whereas the glass wouldn't have got damaged at all. I've never used a protector - do they come off easily or is it a pain in the a*** (I've heard on some phones about protectors you can't actually ever remove, which would seem to just make it more likely that your phone will display a scratch!)

You need to get the type of protector doesn't use glue to stick. Then they come off very easily when you pull up from a corner. e.g. the Brando ones you can pull off, wash and put on again (although I have never ever washed a protector once it was on lol ).
Quite some cheap e-bay protectors work like this as well.
Never got a protector with glue now I think about it. That's just wrong!

poldie said:
Obviously, but the screen is glass and the protectors are plastic. So it would very easily get a minor scratch on the plastic which I'd then need to replace, whereas the glass wouldn't have got damaged at all. I've never used a protector - do they come off easily or is it a pain in the a*** (I've heard on some phones about protectors you can't actually ever remove, which would seem to just make it more likely that your phone will display a scratch!)
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Depends really, cheap protectors do get scratched easily but anything over about £5 is generally fairly scratch proof.
All the ones i've had have been very easy to install and remove.

Screen Protectors and Cases Don't "like" Eachother

I've tried a couple of different screen protectors, and three different cases, and I have the same problem every time.
The edges of the case tend to push at the edges of the screen protector, and start to pull it up. You can "fix" it a few times but eventually dust gets in there and then you just have a few bubbles at the side, which are unsightly.
I need cases and screen protectors that agree with eachother... where do I go?

I had the realook on my last phone, which is more like a "glass" material than rubber/flexible, it might fix your issue since it will be less likely to bend and fold.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=bl_sr_electronics?_encoding=UTF8&field-brandtextbin=realook&node=172282

OK here's a revolutionary idea: scissors.
Cut the screen protector 3mm and stick it on. Don't complicate things!
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vpetkar said:
OK here's a revolutionary idea: scissors.
Cut the screen protector 3mm and stick it on. Don't complicate things!
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Has this worked for you or are you just assuming? I find it very unlikely that scissors wouldn't warp the edge slightly, stopping it from going on cleanly.
A razor blade MIGHT do it, but I doubt that too. The problem is (and it applies to scissors too) is that you're cutting three layers including the two that you pull off just prior to application. It's impossible to perfectly cut through all that with household items.
It's easier without those layers, sure, but try cutting it after taking those layers off. You'll get dust or a fingerprint or some other imperfection on the sticky side, leading to a bubble underneath that you'll never get rid of. It is hard enough to avoid errant dust even when applying it 5 seconds after taking the protective layer off. 1-2 bubbles is par for the course.
So no, I wouldn't say this is very revolutionary.
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Hi!
I understand your need for extra protection but I do have a few options for you:
- Otter box (if available, and it should be) always include a screen protector on their cases. Yes it is bulky, but you have so much armor.
- Full protection Zagg shield. This is a screen film that is fully flexible, and robust to the extent that it's almost indestructible! Zagg offers these kind of films on screen, back, and sides (Max protection option). So it's like applying a plastic cover all over the phone.
Hope this gives you a hint.

IMHO, zagg shield is realy "rubbery", not a pleasant feel at all...

t1mman said:
IMHO, zagg shield is realy "rubbery", not a pleasant feel at all...
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Yes, that's the word I was looking for to describe it.

t1mman said:
I had the realook on my last phone, which is more like a "glass" material than rubber/flexible, it might fix your issue since it will be less likely to bend and fold.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=bl_sr_electronics?_encoding=UTF8&field-brandtextbin=realook&node=172282
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I have the Realook on my E970 and the diztronic case and it pushes up on the corners of the screen protector.

I use the OEM Flip folio case with a Zagg Invisible Shield HD and have had no problems.

really tight cases (TPU, polycarbonate) tend to cause screen protector to lift on the edges, one way to get around that is to get a silicone or silicone/polycarbonate hybrid (think otterbox) case.

When do you buy a new glass protector?

I scratched my icarez glass protector this afternoon, I knew it was a bad ides to just throw my phone in my bag but that's why I got a protector. Now I have about a 1 inch scratch down the middle and it annoys me almost as much as if my actual screen was scratched.
Am I crazy for wanting to buy a new one now? 10$ isn't crazy but I should probably try and pace myself.

randyspants said:
I scratched my icarez glass protector this afternoon, I knew it was a bad ides to just throw my phone in my bag but that's why I got a protector. Now I have about a 1 inch scratch down the middle and it annoys me almost as much as if my actual screen was scratched.
Am I crazy for wanting to buy a new one now? 10$ isn't crazy but I should probably try and pace myself.
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I wonder what was in the bag. As all protector companies use terms like 9H hardness usually everything except sand will make such a scratch. So either they are all lying (which of course they are) or something special was in the bag (which I doubt).
Marketing BS sucks

Haha ya nothing special, some plastic headphones and some paperwork. Maybe it was a staple from that or just the zipper on the way in/out. Either way not mad one bit just amused at myself for wanting to replace the protector for doing its job and taking a scratch

I would replace it. Depending on how deep the scratch is it still turn into a crack which isn't fun.

Same i got the Nillkin 9H one, i got a small scratch on it...
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My Spigen randomly cracked on my D850, I don't think there was a scratch. Also don't forget its still glass and it will eventually break depending on how deep of a scratch it is.

The only thing I could get to scratch the protector was a serrated kitchen knife. A screwdriver, scissors, keys, etc. couldn't do it.

My Nillkin one scratched in under a week.
I was on a morning flight one day and had the phone resting on my belly/lap whilst taking a nap, when I woke up I found it scratched an inch down the centre, I think it may be from the seat belt buckle.
I ordered a bepak one as that had moulded holes around speaker grille and sensor rather than a big cutout, during the time the bepak arrived a crack formed across the top separate from the original scratch.
Never again Nillkin.

MrDerrickC said:
My Nillkin one scratched in under a week.
I was on a morning flight one day and had the phone resting on my belly/lap whilst taking a nap, when I woke up I found it scratched an inch down the centre, I think it may be from the seat belt buckle.
I ordered a bepak one as that had moulded holes around speaker grille and sensor rather than a big cutout, during the time the bepak arrived a crack formed across the top separate from the original scratch.
Never again Nillkin.
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I've ordered a Bepak one today as well... read good reviews about it till now. Lets see how it holds out. I have a tendency to keep my phone in my bag while gymming & stuff so hopefully it holds a little longer that the normal ones do.
On the main topic though, just be glad you had a screen protector on atleast! That scratch directly on the screen and it would've costed far more than 10$! Then again, you're not crazy about wanting to replace it right away.. the G3 is a piece of beauty and a scratch makes it really annoying everytime you see it.

if4ct0r said:
I've ordered a Bepak one today as well... read good reviews about it till now. Lets see how it holds out. I have a tendency to keep my phone in my bag while gymming & stuff so hopefully it holds a little longer that the normal ones do.
On the main topic though, just be glad you had a screen protector on atleast! That scratch directly on the screen and it would've costed far more than 10$! Then again, you're not crazy about wanting to replace it right away.. the G3 is a piece of beauty and a scratch makes it really annoying everytime you see it.
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In my opinion, the nillkin is probably softer then the screen itself. It scratched up too easily.
The bepak feels "harder"
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MrDerrickC said:
In my opinion, the nillkin is probably softer then the screen itself. It scratched up too easily.
The bepak feels "harder"
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Strange isn't it. Both mention 9H hardness. Yet one feels softer and scratches easily. I guess you cant't really trust what these guys mention on their product description.

I wouldn't worry about it as long as actual screen us not damaged. I would wait until the protector screen actually damaged or cracked.

I had my nexus 4 for over a year without a screen protector and still don't see a scratch on it.
This lg has the same glass I believe. Gorilla glass 3 I think. I don't think a screen protector is needed though maybe it would help with keeping the glass from shattering. I'm not sure though. I would get one if that is the case.
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I might take some hate for saying this, but I've always been an advocate of the plastic screen protectors. I've tried the glass, and encountered the same problems that you states, OP. I find that the plastic ones work better for me.
There was a ton of marketing and advertising for the glass stuff, but I think that it was a little over the top. The plastic is better in my opinion.

dianestory2 said:
The plastic is better in my opinion.
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How is that?
It's considerably more difficult to put on without getting bubbles.
It's considerably less panel-breaking protective.
It's considerably less scratch resistant.
It's considerably less smooth.
These, by the way, are not personal judgments but facts

Plastic screen protectors attract a crap load more finger prints and are harder to clean off compared to glass.

Cailifu brand on Amazon claims to carry a 1 year warranty. Came with the exact same inserts and application tools as the icarez
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Does the screen protector just protect from scratches or would it also help with a drop?
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I am using a glass protector for now 1.5 month and not a single scratch yet! It's however significantly thicker than plastic one! Sometimes I feel the touch less responsive.. It also catches fingerprint and dirt like a magnet lol (probably no oleophobic coating) I found the G3 screen itself very very good! your finger just slips fluently across the screen and barely catches any fingerprint! I installed one just for extra protector I'd say worth it if you don't mind cleaning your screen more frequently

Pfeffernuss said:
How is that?
It's considerably more difficult to put on without getting bubbles.
It's considerably less panel-breaking protective.
It's considerably less scratch resistant.
It's considerably less smooth.
These, by the way, are not personal judgments but facts
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1) not if done the right way
2) agreed
3) I've never ever ever had a scratch on my phone, plastic or glass
4) only a little.
For my personal lifestyle, I don't really care that much about all of that. I'm glad you are so supportive, though

Found a great film protector

Not many post on XDA but I promise you I do not work for this company lol. I've been searching forever for a good screen protector and glass is off the table. Whitestone is too expensive and I know I'd mess it up! I've gone through several brands of films on Amazon that have good/moderate reviews but they have all had poor coverage or just didn't stick down on the edges, and I consider myself a pro at installing films. Found a new one that claimed it used new technology to create a tpu type film and took a gamble on it as there where no reviews/ratings. I am pleased to announce that with proper care putting it on its flawless, adheres 100% to the sides and is almost unnoticeable by touch or look. (Except for that it's film and not glass) I will note however that be careful installing as the adhesive is very strong, and getting dust out after installing is near if not impossible. I'll post pics tomorrow of the product and a pic of my phone with it installed!
amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B071NY2RXP/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
... Can't post links yet. It's the JOLOJO film for the Galaxy S8/+ on Amazon. Make sure you get the film not glass protector.

First time post...you are this isn't you selling it?
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SEVENEDGE said:
First time post...you are this isn't you selling it?
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Honestly I just got tired of looking for screen protectors. I made this account on XDA forever ago and decided that since I'd finally found one I'd just like to share my experience to maybe save some others frustration. I always lurk around here, have since the Moto a855 days, just never get on and post.
If someone does decide to try one of these protectors and chimes in that'd be great as I know my low post count doesn't make me look very believable lol

ha. yeah, I suspected some time ago, that an employee or more were making accounts promoting their asian battery, with low post counts.
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Don't know about this one, but I just received a similar TPU-type screen protector. Haven't installed it yet, will reply back after I have.
This is the one I bought: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07121XQWT/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

ChuckL123 said:
Not many post on XDA but I promise you I do not work for this company lol.
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monkey39 said:
Don't know about this one, but I just received a similar TPU-type screen protector. Haven't installed it yet, will reply back after I have.
This is the one I bought: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07121XQWT/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I would be curious to know how these work with a case.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
I would be curious to know how these work with a case.
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Well, can't tell you that as I screwed up the install and had to trash it [emoji17]. Couldn't get the bubbles out of it. Very likely my ineptness - been a while since I used anything besides tempered glass.
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monkey39 said:
Well, can't tell you that as I screwed up the install and had to trash it [emoji17]. Couldn't get the bubbles out of it. Very likely my ineptness - been a while since I used anything besides tempered glass.
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Dammit, man!! Now I'll never know!

Mr. Orange 645 said:
Dammit, man!! Now I'll never know!
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Sorry man, had high hopes for it based on the case problems with tempered glass I've been reading about. Anyway, just ordered a tempered glass one [emoji9] that purports to be "case friendly". We'll see.
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I got mine on without bubbles, but I learned very quickly the adhesive is extremely strong on these screen protectors and getting tiny bubbles out is very hard. You have to choose a large one and push it around through all the smaller ones. As far case usage goes, they fit snug and the only case I own is a OtterBox Symmetry which I have no problems with.
In the description and picture it states these have a 9H rating, and while I've had mine on since Friday without any scratches I have to call BS on that claim. They are a tpu film, feel like film, definitely don't feel like glass but are 100% crystal clear. They seems fairly durable compared to some other PET films I've used, and they are much thicker/heavy duty. (Can't tell once applied however)

Orange peel? Or completely flat like PET

tofu- said:
Orange peel? Or completely flat like PET
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No orange peel at all. 100% smooth like PET. I can't stand wet apply protectors because of the orange peel/clarity so I've never used them. Always stuck to cheap PET and this is very similar.
Like I said though, I can't stress enough to be careful putting it on as it has a very strong adhesive. It is still easy to take off and leaves no residue, but getting dust/dirt/hair out after is impossible. It's not like normal PET that uses static.
I did get a short piece of hair on mine when installing, which I'd normally remove or put on a new film after, but with the adhesive and TPU this seems to have just molded around it and it's almost not noticable. Leaves no air as the protector won't push back up. I'm very OCD with my protectors.
EDIT: Also, another note is that where this is a hard TPU film I have noticed it resist scratches very well but will indent like the wet apply protectors when force is applied such as with a finger nail. It does seem to recover after awhile. Funny how it's a TPU that feels like film. Also, 4 days now and no signs of peeling/no scratches. My phone is in and out of my pants pocket all day long.

ChuckL123 said:
No orange peel at all. 100% smooth like PET. I can't stand wet apply protectors because of the orange peel/clarity so I've never used them. Always stuck to cheap PET and this is very similar.
Like I said though, I can't stress enough to be careful putting it on as it has a very strong adhesive. It is still easy to take off and leaves no residue, but getting dust/dirt/hair out after is impossible. It's not like normal PET that uses static.
I did get a short piece of hair on mine when installing, which I'd normally remove or put on a new film after, but with the adhesive and TPU this seems to have just molded around it and it's almost not noticable. Leaves no air as the protector won't push back up. I'm very OCD with my protectors.
EDIT: Also, another note is that where this is a hard TPU film I have noticed it resist scratches very well but will indent like the wet apply protectors when force is applied such as with a finger nail. It does seem to recover after awhile. Funny how it's a TPU that feels like film. Also, 4 days now and no signs of peeling/no scratches. My phone is in and out of my pants pocket all day long.
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Use a piece of scotch tape to remove any dust the gets behind it. Just peel up your screen protector then use the tape (sticky side to screen protector sticky side) to pull any dust or hair off the inside.

ShrekOpher said:
Use a piece of scotch tape to remove any dust the gets behind it. Just peel up your screen protector then use the tape (sticky side to screen protector sticky side) to pull any dust or hair off the inside.
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I tried that. Tape stuck to the adhesive on the film and when pulling off left a mark where the tape was on it. Like I said, the screen protector has a strong adhesive and doesn't use static. Usually only static pet protectors can have dust removed with tape. In this case, the adhesive on the film is stronger than tape.

How's it holding up a week later?

great screen protector
thanks OP for recommending this
I installed mine a bit over a week ago and have to say fairly impressed with it. It is stronger than your normal PET protectors (doesn't get micro scratches easily) and has very strong adhesive as the OP mentioned (great for the edges).
I did buy the case friendly version though instead of the full screen one
https://www.amazon.com/JOLOJO-Protector-Anti-Bubble-Strengthened-Application/dp/B071NZKKT1/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1501007553&sr=8-2&keywords=jolojo
As far as install is concerned - If you have a rubber squeegee (had one from the armorsuite products) it will help greatly. Combine that with the hinge method and you will get a really good install.
Cons
You have to be pretty damn exact for the borders. There is really no room for error.
Not glass but I am definitely happy with it.

I bought a wet install film screen protector and I am loving it... No touch sensitivity issues, easy to install, and self heals scratches... I have used it on on a few past phones as well as smartwatches and have never had any issues with them.
https://www.amazon.com/ArmorSuit-Pr...ung+galaxy+s8+plus+armorsuit+screen+protector

It’s Supershieldz for me.

Got these today. Chuck is right, they are somewhat a pain to install but the result is great. Recommend.

Does the material of the Jolojo feel rubbery like other films do or is it smoother with less friction?
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