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Small, almost non existent dev sector (big up to paul for pushing something!), and no pledges for gingerbread or eta for froyo. Nexus will get all of these!!!! What do you guys think? Would the swap be worth it? What do you think about pros and cons...
Great specs for galaxy s internals boy reflected by ux, low ram etc. any comments!?
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Maybe because this device was launched two weeks ago?
See it this way: in one week Leshak got root, and in two weeks Paul made the first version of his Modaco Custom Rom.
Just give it some time, please....
Little too much focus on will it get this, will it get that? What it has now is cracking. The phone doesnt _need_ the updates, but will get them anyway, weither from Samsung or XDA. Its an awesome phone, and as we've seen MoDaCo has got us off to a great start.
Just be a little patient. The phone has been rooted in the first week already !!
Anyway, if it turns out Gingerbread won't be made available for the Galaxy by that time there will be plenty of dumped second hand Nexus one's available to buy.
For now the Nexus is just not able to compete with the Galaxy.
just wait until they launch it in the US, and things will move faster
by the way verizon will get a flash on their handset
This was meant to be a discussion not a character assassination! The american launches will help, assuming there aren't subtle differences and key mapping isn't too hard!
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Hazz, if you check the marketplace, people are doing trades all the time... check it out, post in the correct place... maybe you'll get better results....
Hello my Friends,
The time has really come to say Good Bye to all my Wonder Friends. I enjoyed and had a good time with all of you by learning/porting stuff.
I8150 is really a nice phone, but I needed to shift from this phone due to some reason.
Long story short, I spent half of my life in coding, leading teams of software engineers, managing enterprise level ERPs and architecting enterprise level application in all the latest and old languages/technologies. I took out some time and did some porting stuff, but my main target was to develop CM7 from sources.
I have most experience in Java/J2EE and less in C++. I tried to take help from different peoples but my bad luck no one guided me due to lack of time or just for no reason.
Not only from our forum I tried to contacted Exihibit II , Galaxy S Plus but I didn't get positive response, whatever the reason is but no one guide me. I searched myself and read a lot of material on net but not a single guide is perfect. There is no problem with Linux setup, I am use to of it.
I believe in Opensource and helping each other by spreading/sharing knowledge but in my case I couldn't search a person like this.
So I decided to switch (just not for CM7) to a device that have a lot of custom roms.
The porting I did is an asset for all of you. I want the guys should come up and take over the Roms from me. I hope you enjoyed my custom roms. If there is anyone who has some programming experience with smali/backsmali, apktool, understanding rom folders, hands on on merging /diff, ready to take risk of bricking then I will be happy to transfer my knowledge, but due to my tough schedule the person should be expert and self starter.
And finally I would like to special thank @arco, @andyroid, @irishpancake and All my Wonder community members.
Thank You All
i wish i had enough knowledge cuz i really wantd to learn from you but im just a noob at these stufff
but i hope u have a better experience with your new device
I Hate You For This...Really ...With a Poke.... So What is That New Device of Yours ?
Keep in Touch n Do Stick Around Once In a While
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wow. wow. I was shocked for a while. what a sad news. how could it be? but thanks, so many thanks for your effort and big contribution in our little community, for porting good rom, for sharing knowledge and many help you did to us, thanks to make our wonder phone more attractive with the rom but yeah, sometime you must move to a larger box while you don't fit anymore in a small one. thanks again alidsd
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Hi Ali dsd,
Please stick around as there's no one place or person to obtain this building -information in a reliable and complete form that we're looking for. I too got burnt similarly and still am in process of setting my own build environment based whatever that seemed to work for me from my captures from various blogs, forums and sites.
It's from open minded contributors like you that, when collectively packaged, would effective stuff come and came from. While I respectfully disagree this to be a reason for departure which is quite an expected risk with any open source stuff, I think your presence and continued contribution would benefit others looking to go along your route, though your participation might be less active than earlier.
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Thanks alidsd ...
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andynroid said:
I Hate You For This...Really ...With a Poke.... So What is That New Device of Yours ?
Keep in Touch n Do Stick Around Once In a While
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Don't worry @andyroid, I am not going from XDA, I will be around , I will be checking W forums ( I haven't deleted it from my Fav ) time to time.
Amazingly my new device is not a high end device, Its just Nexus S. I think you will ask why ????
It will save my time . ... How ???? Mostly all types of Rom flavors are there, I just need to flash and use it, and the time I save from here can put on getting some certifications (like PMP, J2EE Architect and MCPD ). Its my decision and it doesn't mean that Nexus S is superior then Galaxy W.
Believe me or not but Galaxy W is an amazing device based on hardware it uses and the small size is very pocket friendly.
vcsekhar said:
Hi Ali dsd,
Please stick around as there's no one place or person to obtain this building -information in a reliable and complete form that we're looking for. I too got burnt similarly and still am in process of setting my own build environment based whatever that seemed to work for me from my captures from various blogs, forums and sites.
It's from open minded contributors like you that, when collectively packaged, would effective stuff come and came from. While I respectfully disagree this to be a reason for departure which is quite an expected risk with any open source stuff, I think your presence and continued contribution would benefit others looking to go along your route, though your participation might be less active than earlier.
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I am always here, i can be reached on PM or email.
I have already said that anyone who have some knowledge in porting can contact me , i will happily transfer my knowledge, because sharing knowledge is the major path to increase knowledge and community, but the person should have some experience.
I want someone to continue MIUIv4 and AOKP, or if someone come-up with their own porting version of any Rom then please ask Mod to delete my two threads.
I really appreciate all of your feelings.
Thanks,
AliDSD
Thanks for your great contribution ali, really appreciate it
Nexus s is a great device to fiddle with I'm pretty sure you'll find lots of stuff to learn there
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Goodbye.......
Sad to see this... goodbye dear ali
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HI alidsd, I understand you, cause I have your same motivation on developing. I studied information tecnology, so I have some knowledgies, but I'm new with android and I'm trying to do somenthing with my rom. I have your main target, build cm7 from source, but as u said there isn't a guide that really help in this, and for me is difficult to begin with it.
So now I have begininng to first port some mods to a gb rom, then to learn how to create a kernel and to port a complete rom. After these steps I like to begin cm7 from source, but I know is really hard.
I also have to say that it is demotivating to see there aren't much developers for our phone, that we haven't ICS from Samsung and at this time we haven't a complete ICS rom, while there is a new android version so probably i never work on cm7, too old...and for this, i was thinking it was better if I took a nexus s....however i can't change phone for now, so i continue to study and develop for my W...but in future the only phone i'll buy should be a nexus or a phone with more contribute from community...
Goodbye Ali and good luck with your new phone
Friend alidsd :crying:
I am so sad to see you are moving on....I know it will be for the better for you and your career!!!!!
Thank you for mentioning me in your OP, I really appreciate it.....
[I have been missing recently, due to that health issue....but things are OK, and will hopefully stay that way....God willing]
The old community loses another member with such skills, first qzem, KP, now you!!!! [apologies to any others left out, no offence!!]
All the best for the future, and do drop by whenever you get time, it was really good!!!!
Cheers man :good: :good:
yo alidsd,,
well i guess this is not a goodbye coz you're still gonna be around here:].,but still have to say thanks for all your great works by porting some wonderful ROMs..Wonder's forum still open for your advice anytime you have,,
happy porting buddy..
regards,
kidd
i was motivated by your words Alisd, i really was serious and dreamed to learn more about android, i wanted to try what bagux was doing but i ain't got enough time for it. i was amazed and never imagined that a person whose managing software engineers also tried tweaking our W XD i'm just a beginner software engineer about 6months old on work and specialized in VB and for some reasons i can say i also am at Cobol, i was still trying to learn now despite of the schedule i have and i am starting it on making android apps for now and maybe tweaking in the future. can i ask what company are you working?
UPDATE
UPDATE
I got rid of Nexus S and bought HTC Desire S. Most of you will be wondering Why ???, a lot of reasons. if anyone have interest to know then he can PM me.
I would suggest guys not to go for Nexus S now, its not a good time, it could be debatable but its my personal opinion. All of the Roms that are available for NS are also available for DS.
At last Galaxy W is a good phone, so please stick with it till you find a better phone according to your needs.
Because I have been part of this community so I thought that I should update my community.
Thanks,
I am glad to read opinions about me, you are all wonderful people.
@irishpancake, I am really concerned about your health , please take care, and update your health status so our community can pray for you. God bless on you.
I am happy to see that Alex (from Galaxy S+) has ported MIUIv4 successfully , and I hope he will also port AOKP and other CM9 based Roms from S+ to W.
Its great, I believe :
Every threat comes with opportunity.
kemaro30 said:
can i ask what company are you working?
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yeah sure, but i can not give details here, currently i am working for a Canadian based company, working on an ERP.
alidsd...your wish has been granted hoping you are OK with it
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alidsd said:
I am glad to read opinions about me, you are all wonderful people.
@irishpancake, I am really concerned about your health , please take care, and update your health status so our community can pray for you. God bless on you.
I am happy to see that Alex (from Galaxy S+) has ported MIUIv4 successfully , and I hope he will also port AOKP and other CM9 based Roms from S+ to W.
Its great, I believe :
Every threat comes with opportunity.
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Dear Ali....please don't be overly concerned for me....I gotta lotta support from Family, Wife+ 2 Sons, both in 30's, really good guys, friends, etc......
I really appreciate your good wishes, and I can say that my recent operation was a success, so so far so good.....
God Bless you and your future good health!!
Just to say here, ppl should watch out for any signs regarding Cancer, it can be treated very successfully if got in time, it is important......life is very sweet!!!
please check yourselves regularly, it may save your life!!!!
but don't become obsessed by it either....:fingers-crossed:
This forum seems kinda dead now...once the Ion came out this forum thrived for a bit. Sadly no roms or themes
We have CM9 though, which is good news. Though sadly only a handful of us here can actually install it.
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I would delete this post...i made a similar thread about 3 days ago... and people raged so hard. It was slightly funny, but i guess i really hurt someones feelings
so please remove or you will face the wrath of online anger...
Why? Its just disappointing to see that a phone with great potential have rarely any development. I understand that we do have devs here (thanks to all for CWM and other mods and such) but its still disappointing.
I'm hoping that when the Xperia T comes out in more regions that Sony will let us unlock the bootloader (though I'm not holding my breath). Once unlocked I'm pretty sure that things will pick up a lot. Kind of sucks that such a good phone is happered by something so stupid.
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I'm hoping that when the Xperia T comes out in more regions that Sony will let us unlock the bootloader (though I'm not holding my breath). Once unlocked I'm pretty sure that things will pick up a lot. Kind of sucks that such a good phone is happered by something so stupid.
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Yeah, once we are able to unlock our bootloaders things should definitely pick up. Hope that MIUI develops for the LT28 soon aswell. This lack of customization is killing me.
I guess that's what you guys get for being early adopters and hoping a dev community will spring up. If you want a phone for custom roms and other things you should wait till you are sure there will be developers for the device.
Complaining that there isn't dev for a device you already bought knowing at the time there was not much development is pretty dumb if you ask me.
I for one get a device because I like it as it is. If there is further development for the device after I get it great but that's just a bonus.
Just like buying a phone in hopes of an update is not a wise decision, buying a device hoping their will be development isn't any better.
You also have to remember the.ion wasn't a flagship device or one that was pushed very hard so there would obviously be less interest for the major developers to work on it.
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I like the phone aswell, but coming for an Arc with an unlocked bootloader i just miss the customization you know? We can only hope that the ion will get dev attention eventually.
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I like the phone aswell, but coming for an Arc with an unlocked bootloader i just miss the customization you know? We can only hope that the ion will get dev attention eventually.
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Thing to remember also is the ion is very much the same as the Xperia S with a few small differences so mods for the S shouldn't be too hard to convert to the ion.
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Spectre51 said:
I guess that's what you guys get for being early adopters and hoping a dev community will spring up. If you want a phone for custom roms and other things you should wait till you are sure there will be developers for the device.
Complaining that there isn't dev for a device you already bought knowing at the time there was not much development is pretty dumb if you ask me.
I for one get a device because I like it as it is. If there is further development for the device after I get it great but that's just a bonus.
Just like buying a phone in hopes of an update is not a wise decision, buying a device hoping their will be development isn't any better.
You also have to remember the.ion wasn't a flagship device or one that was pushed very hard so there would obviously be less interest for the major developers to work on it.
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Well said - you know what you got - it's your decision buying/sign contract for. So what's there to whine about. Xda is a plus IMO.
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Also rather than complain you cam take actionand learn yourself. Android is one of the most open source project since html. There are lots of resources available to learn and I know this because I for one have noticed the lack of developments so I decided to learn.
Also begging for development doesn't help the cause. If you would like resources to learn start with developing simple apps and expand.
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If i knew how to develop miui that'd be great...thats all im really hoping for
EDIT: Is there any big differences between the ion and the acro s? Cobrato's just released a method to convert xperia s roms to work with the acro s. Heres the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1914328
EDIT2: Nevermind, doesnt work. Possibly we could figure a method to exploit his conversion to work with our ion?
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If i knew how to develop miui that'd be great...thats all im really hoping for
EDIT: Is there any big differences between the ion and the acro s? Cobrato's just released a method to convert xperia s roms to work with the acro s. Heres the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1914328
EDIT2: Nevermind, doesnt work. Possibly we could figure a method to exploit his conversion to work with our ion?
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But without CM9/10, you cannot port Miui.
Now, that Cm9 is out for ION, we can try and port it.
I will give it a try.
Proudly announce that there's a Vietnamese person has released an Rom Cooked name X-Ion Kudo v1 on local forum. Let's search and try
Just checked it out, nothing special. Just a stock rom with various tweaks that i could do myself. I'm really hoping for MIUI to develop for the ion
I have already tried porting MIUI. But I could not go beyond the MIUI Logo.
Since I am on CM9, it is easier for me to keep testing. Hope to get it right soon.:fingers-crossed:
ganeshbiyer said:
I have already tried porting MIUI. But I could not go beyond the MIUI Logo.
Since I am on CM9, it is easier for me to keep testing. Hope to get it right soon.:fingers-crossed:
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I hope you get some good results!
I think one reason why this phone is lacking devs is that there are too meany of these xperia phones out that are all pretty much the same and with the prices being the same as well. I bought my wife the lt28h due to it having support for what t-mobile calls "4g". With these devices dev will come easier from ports of other similar phones. It is only a matter of time. We the owners of these ION phones have but only three choices 1. Learn to dev 2. sell phone buy one with heavy dev teams 3. Wait for developments. I for one would be happiest with a fully working ics/miui or a ics/ASOP. But I am pretty happy with just the stock rom for now.
We have now CM9, CM 10 and MIUI. Not so bad for a phone that has a locked bootloader in the U.S. and has begun selling in Europe at the same time as the Xperia T.
According to this, aokp Jelly Bean is on the way for unlocked bootloader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32816064
~Jaramie
from my LT28at ION rooted, customized & eating an Ice Cream Sandwich
I'm hoping we get a few more stock kernel roms too. Unless we figure out bl unlock someday. But overall, I'm pretty happy with current state.
Sent from my LT28 w MIUI
First of all, I want to apologize to all the dedicated devs who invested their time keeping our amazing device alive for all these months. As many of you guys know, our beloved smartphone is on the verge of its 2 years b-day. Since Sir Arco decided to move on, I wanted to start this thread to prospect the community opinions regarding a question: When should we do the same?
I also noticed that, besides Sir Arco, some of our most distinguished are starting to begin parallel projects for other devices and/or other things, and are no longer keeping up. Please, it's not about ETAs, far from that. I'm an app dev too. It just seems that their attention are elsewhere. Altough it's comprehensible (2 years is a long run for any piece of hardware, afterall), I just can't help but wonder (unintentional, xD) if we finally reached our limit.
Please, guys. These are just thoughts. I'm not trying to start a flame here. But, are we now really a legacy device?
Peace.
No and yes. We've shown we can live without arco68 by porting lots and lots of ROMs (Android 4.3 based ROMs, for example) and kernels, but we're coming to an end, mainly because the dated hardware can't keep up with new developments.
For the next few months, I'll keep using my W on CM10.2 as a daily driver, but when I have enough money I'll definitely switch to a more modern device, preferably the next Nexus phone
Its not dead... yet. But we can all see the future...
However, if we try, we can delay the inevitable. It will help others, and make our device still "somewhat" up to date.
App developer? Try to make an app that will help the Galaxy W. I have moved to a Motorola Atrix 4G, so I noticed this.
Try something like that? The point is, instead of being remorseful about the upcoming inevitable, try to pitch in.
I (don't bother to do anything in the Motorola Atrix section as I have no idea of half of what they are doing) pitch in here and there in this section, but I'm not as helpful as arsradu or LeroViten.
In conclusion, the Galaxy W is a phone that will remain in my heart, thus I am trying my best not to let it die.
You should do the same.
I have noticed that at least 2 developers have stopped or postponed development on the ZL.I see that the rooting, and installation of a recovery is much more challenging than for example the S4 or HTC One. I do not see many roms out for the ZL os opposed to the S4 and HTC One. My concerns are that this is not a phone that is going to receive the same attention from Developers as others. I just got the ZL a few days ago and really like the phone itself, but am concerned with the lack of or less development. Does anyone know the reason why?
It took the ZL a while to have any significant amount of development. Bear in mind that the Z1 is very recent and will be several weeks before it is available everywhere. Had to buy mine from Clove because it is going to be at least another month until the US starts to see them.
Since I started developing Android apps at work (been a C# dev for 10 years but novice to Android and Java) I got my own builds of Cyanogen working last week (for the ZL).
Sony does a great job in providing resources for developers. However, it is way less time consuming to develop apps than deal with ROMs... That may explain why you don't see more people doing it ... Some don't want or can invest the time.
Personally, I am happy with the Sony ROMs and would not benefit much for custom. In fact my tablet Z has been stock since day 1. If I was using a bloated Samsung or HTC... Well...
Sendt fra XPERIA Z SGP312
Thanks for your input.
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