Small, almost non existent dev sector (big up to paul for pushing something!), and no pledges for gingerbread or eta for froyo. Nexus will get all of these!!!! What do you guys think? Would the swap be worth it? What do you think about pros and cons...
Great specs for galaxy s internals boy reflected by ux, low ram etc. any comments!?
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Maybe because this device was launched two weeks ago?
See it this way: in one week Leshak got root, and in two weeks Paul made the first version of his Modaco Custom Rom.
Just give it some time, please....
Little too much focus on will it get this, will it get that? What it has now is cracking. The phone doesnt _need_ the updates, but will get them anyway, weither from Samsung or XDA. Its an awesome phone, and as we've seen MoDaCo has got us off to a great start.
Just be a little patient. The phone has been rooted in the first week already !!
Anyway, if it turns out Gingerbread won't be made available for the Galaxy by that time there will be plenty of dumped second hand Nexus one's available to buy.
For now the Nexus is just not able to compete with the Galaxy.
just wait until they launch it in the US, and things will move faster
by the way verizon will get a flash on their handset
This was meant to be a discussion not a character assassination! The american launches will help, assuming there aren't subtle differences and key mapping isn't too hard!
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Hazz, if you check the marketplace, people are doing trades all the time... check it out, post in the correct place... maybe you'll get better results....
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Hi,
I am due to trade in my faithful G1 in the next three weeks. The obvious choice financially for a replacement is the Desire.
The best thing about owning the G1 was the wave of development that has followed its release, I have really enjoyed being able to swap ROMs and have the such a wide range of choice to do so.
So, will the Desire ever have this developer base, or has it been eclipsed by the Nexus in this respect? has anyone else thought about this as part of their decision for their next handset?
I know the stock answer is going to be "get a Nexus", but that doesnt makes financial sense at the moment. Maybe I will have to wait until a proper UK release....
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I don't see how you might think the Desire won't get a large developer base. Any phone on XDA gets a large developer base IMO and there are are plenty of Android specific forums that can help you mod when the phone has been rooted.
I think you'll be fine to upgrade to the Desire
The desire will be rooted soon and supposedly has interchangeable roms with the N1 anyway.
All sounds reassuring, thanks I probably named this post poorly..I think it was the extent to which attention would be focused I was concerned about. G1 and Nexus seemed to be in the right place at the right time when devs like Cyanogen were getting hold of new handsets and modding them.
Although I hope I am wrong it is by no means certain that the Desire will be "hacked" to accept Custom ROMs. I understand that Paul at Modaco has been able to "root" the Desire but a lot more work is required before Custom ROMs can be loaded.
There is an assumption here that the "Developers" can do anything. It might just not be possible without a "leak" from someone within HTC.
It might be worth waiting a while before purchasing.
or you just buy it and wait for it to be rooted?
why should you wait until it is cuz we all know it will be rooted. its only a matter of time.
and if it cant be rooted we are screwd because all new htc (android) devices will have the same kind of security or even better !!
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Hi,
I am due to trade in my faithful G1 in the next three weeks. The obvious choice financially for a replacement is the Desire.
The best thing about owning the G1 was the wave of development that has followed its release, I have really enjoyed being able to swap ROMs and have the such a wide range of choice to do so.
So, will the Desire ever have this developer base, or has it been eclipsed by the Nexus in this respect? has anyone else thought about this as part of their decision for their next handset?
I know the stock answer is going to be "get a Nexus", but that doesnt makes financial sense at the moment. Maybe I will have to wait until a proper UK release....
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I am in the same boat as you... I have a G1 and absolutely love the modding and dev community out there, it made my phone 1000x more fun to own . I have been looking at the Desire and there are some great deals out there (price wise) so I am seriously considering getting one. The N1 is too expensive for me atm, plus the N1 hasnt sold as well as Google had hoped... For me I hope the desire will outsell the N1 and hopefully have a large dev support....
First things first, I love this phone, and it has rendered my Evo3D useless and sitting in its box probably never to be used again. However, the one thing I really loved about the Evo4G and 3D to a lesser extent, was the development on those phones was heavy. After owning the E4GT for a while now, it doesn't seem like there are that many ROM options being cooked up for it? Is that the norm with Samsung phones, or does it just need to be given more time?
More time. Our phone is an awesome one but it is still quite new id say we will start seeing more come out in a little while. As other threads state the devs dont like posting anything untill they have something ready to be flashed so well just have to wait and see.
The E4GT is 7 weeks old. It's still in the infancy of its life cycle. Give it time. In my opinion, things are moving along nicely.
I agree with the OP. Development on this phone started off with much fervor but lately it has completely slowed down. Now with the release of all these new phones including the Galaxy Nexus, the E4GT has gotten lost in the hype.
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First things first, I love this phone, and it has rendered my Evo3D useless and sitting in its box probably never to be used again. However, the one thing I really loved about the Evo4G and 3D to a lesser extent, was the development on those phones was heavy. After owning the E4GT for a while now, it doesn't seem like there are that many ROM options being cooked up for it? Is that the norm with Samsung phones, or does it just need to be given more time?
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You should have done a thread search. People already started threads whining about the lack of developement.
Really? Another thread about this?
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More food for thought. A lot of things are holding back the development. ICS was announced and should be dropping soon. Updates for our phones to fix the LOS and other bugs should be getting pushed. There is no 100% complete kernel source code. Why cook something up that is known to have bugs (LOS) and knowing that you will spend hours on end to cook up a GB rom when ICS is looming just over the horizon. Just my 2 cents.
So far so good. What we do have is polished and works well. The devs we have are top noch. Get me cm and miui and ill be completely satisfied with this phone.
Samsung Galaxy S II
Its not lacking wait Couple months, the way I see it a lot of people got the 3d and still can't upgrade. Say its lacking if three no. That from now there's no dev.
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That being, a campaign of Twitter and G+ posts to try and get some form of response from Google about the next OTA for the Galaxy Nexus, or at least some transparency on where they are up to with the release.
I am thinking a hashtag like #NexusOTA
Let's pretend i'm a big person at Android team. I can realease ICS 4.0.5 for you tomorrow, but it'll have nearly same issues as 4.0.3. Do you really want it? I don't.
Next version of ICS will be out as soon as it's ready!
I think what scottatron is saying is why the heck do they take so long...be transparent about at what stage of development they're up to and give us an estimate of when is ready...I mean a the whole premise of a Google phone is the continuing update and support, they can be more open and up front about it
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I think what scottatron is saying is why the heck do they take so long...be transparent about at what stage of development they're up to and give us an estimate of when is ready...I mean a the whole premise of a Google phone is the continuing update and support, they can be more open and up front about it
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Pretty much spot on.
I agree, there are enough issues to warrant releases. And some regions have yet to get an OTA release. Seems odd given ICS was intended to simplify development by making it platform independent.
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That being, a campaign of Twitter and G+ posts to try and get some form of response from Google about the next OTA for the Galaxy Nexus, or at least some transparency on where they are up to with the release.
I am thinking a hashtag like #NexusOTA
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Here's the thing... Either you really care that much about being up to date on 4.0.3/4.0.4 instead of 4.0.2, and you just flash a custom ROM; OR you don't care that much and you should be happy with 4.0.2 and it'll be OTAd as soon as it's ready.
Chill. No one is going to do this and no one will listen. You think that Googlers are going to see a bunch of tweets and be like "omg I guess we should start coding this next OTA release! We'll stop slacking!". Good lord, people...
They're not going to release the OTA until its ready. I'd take a 4.0.4 that's fully baked rather than a 4.0.3 that has some fixes and leaves bugs... and another OTA to 4.0.4 after that to fix the rest.
Didn't they run into more problems by giving ETA's and then missing them?
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Didn't they run into more problems by giving ETA's and then missing them?
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Pretty much. Everyone wants ETA's... until they start giving ETA's that can't be met and/or the ETA's are considered too far in the future.
Pretty much Google will be scolded by whiney kids either way.
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Here's the thing... Either you really care that much about being up to date on 4.0.3/4.0.4 instead of 4.0.2, and you just flash a custom ROM; OR you don't care that much and you should be happy with 4.0.2 and it'll be OTAd as soon as it's ready.
Chill. No one is going to do this and no one will listen. You think that Googlers are going to see a bunch of tweets and be like "omg I guess we should start coding this next OTA release! We'll stop slacking!". Good lord, people...
They're not going to release the OTA until its ready. I'd take a 4.0.4 that's fully baked rather than a 4.0.3 that has some fixes and leaves bugs... and another OTA to 4.0.4 after that to fix the rest.
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best response ever...
As my friend here said "Good lord, people..." If you must have the latest flash the leaked 4.0.4 and be done with it.
And exactly what are you waiting for in the next release? what major issues do you have with 4.0.2?
Why are you on xda developers if you're not doing anything with your phone? There is plenty of forums that are just about stock nexus and that's where you should be .... I bought this phone for one reason only custom roms and always compatible roms. If I'd be you I'd buy HTC or other Samsung device and than whine for ota
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Why are you on xda developers if you're not doing anything with your phone? There is plenty of forums that are just about stock nexus and that's where you should be .... I bought this phone for one reason only custom roms and always compatible roms. If I'd be you I'd buy HTC or other Samsung device and than whine for ota
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Some people (like myself) chose to buy a Nexus because it offers you the freedom to choose whether or not you want to root/hack/ROM your phone. I primarily bought the Nexus because I was tired of rooting/ROMing being the only option I had to get a near-AOSP experience with the features I wanted.
It's okay to not root, just don't complain about OTAs if you choose not to. Similar to my previous post -- if you care enough to be following 4.0.x releases, you should not complain about the quickness of your OTAs imho. Part of choosing to stay stock is dealing with the OTA release schedule. There are pros and cons to both sides. If you really want OTAs on your schedule, you just have to do the work and manually make it happen.
This is starting to remind me of the Nexus One and the froyo release. People are freaking out because they aren't getting nightly builds from Google.
Grow up.
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Another one star thread, pro.
Just help yourself and root your phone, then we don't have to read these pointless threads.
95% of people here respond as they do because the could care less about OTA's because we install custom ROMs.
now I feel bad for the op.
but to quote meryl streep, whatev.
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Some people (like myself) chose to buy a Nexus because it offers you the freedom to choose whether or not you want to root/hack/ROM your phone. I primarily bought the Nexus because I was tired of rooting/ROMing being the only option I had to get a near-AOSP experience with the features I wanted.
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That's pretty much why I got a Nexus One and stuck with the brand. While the ROM scene is pretty cool I really can't be bothered to spend my life messing around with my primary phone (got sick of that back in the WinMob days), I'd rather have something which just works and doesn't have a 6 month lag for updates due to OEMs and carriers dicking about with the software. But I like hanging about on XDA because it's the first place I'll hear about OTA's and the first place I'll hear about something which will make me re-think my "can't be bothered with custom ROM's" stance.
Boohoo it'll come when it comes. Just stay calm, relax, and enjoy the beauty of the phone.
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why do u guys think google is just sitting on its ass and not developing. id rather have something finished than something half baked.
4.0 is a drastic new os, it takes time to develop these things.
What Google needs to do for the Nexus lineup is what they do with Google Chrome, they should have a Stable channel a Beta channel and a developer channel that you can pick from for your updates.
These threads are getting annoying. You bothered to make an account on XDA and you bought a Nexus device, ROOT IT.
Also, Google isn't obligated to give you anything but the latest Official version of Android via source, they don't have to give you an OTA and before you go on and say "the nexus program is all about being first" ITS NOT. Its about establishing a standard for manufacturers and developers to build upon not for some end user to ***** and complain about a small revision change that he doesn't have.
You have Android 4.0
No other phone has Android 4.0
SO SHUT UP AND BE HAPPY
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Hey guys, the G9 broke for the second time and I was getting tired of arches poor firmware support, so I jumped ship to the Nexus 7. I've had it for 10 minutes....and I LOVE it! I'll stop by occasionally to give a little support, say hi, and update my root thread. If someone is interested in taking over the root guide, shoot me a PM. you guys have a great community here in the G9 section and some damn awesome developers. See ya around guys.
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Hey guys, the G9 broke for the second time and I was getting tired of arches poor firmware support, so I jumped ship to the Nexus 7. I've had it for 10 minutes....and I LOVE it! I'll stop by occasionally to give a little support, say hi, and update my root thread. If someone is interested in taking over the root guide, shoot me a PM. you guys have a great community here in the G9 section and some damn awesome developers. See ya around guys.
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Not so much goodbye as c'ya later, hopefully not too long either, Google are saying it will complete UK shipping on the pre-orders by the end of next week and there is one such order with my name it The Price in UK Sterling is an absolute steal for such a device,cheaper then Archos....
How does triple buffer butter taste :silly: (I say this adopting the tip-toed stance of an inquisitive child trying to catch an early glimpse of the action. ) :laugh:
It looks like I might be doing another round of 3G Dongle Enabling, if some one hasn't already beat me too it... I should be able to get the archos 3G Stick working with it
What can we say about the Archos Gen9's?
The hardware specification was pretty solid. although the early SD Card based ones could have done with more memory.
The hardware Implementation was "shoddy" and the Archos official firmwares seem to come with they own unique set of issues which is probably down to working around unpredictable hardware behaviour as much as anything else.
Based on the G9 Series ; It is not a brand I would recommend to anyone who just wants/expects there device to work .
I had to repair the Full Size USB Port and My Screen has been "broken" since pretty much day 1, This has been a mixed blessing really as I've found new and interesting ways of interacting with the device.
The Community! There's not many of us that got "tricked" with the Special Developer Edition nonsense.... :laugh: But I will say this, Some of the Hardware Wizardry that goes on leaves me in awe. Jacking in with UART is not a place I've ever been too but it's fascinating watching this device get owned by some very knowledgeable people ( or should that be pwnd ).
So overall probably 6/10 for the device ( coming from a developers/tinkers viewpoint ) 10/10 for the work that the community have done and will continue to do.....
10/10 for the awesome community and devs for sure! The community on the G9 forums might even be better than those on the Droid INC forums (that's saying something!)
I'm lovin the taste of this butter...never before have I seen such a beautiful android experience!
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Shano56 said:
10/10 for the awesome community and devs for sure! The community on the G9 forums might even be better than those on the Droid INC forums (that's saying something!)
I'm lovin the taste of this butter...never before have I seen such a beautiful android experience!
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Indeed it is(I jumped ship as well)
Waiting to get home to try JB OTA on this phone
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Long story short - because of Tegra2's lack of support which I failed to envision when I bought my Glide, I sold it in order to hunt for something new and well-supported. It seems that T-Mo's beastly Galaxy S Relay 4G is once again available and is cheaper now, so I might or might not grab one.
Before departure, I'd like to sincerely thank @bubor, @kick buttowski, @spyke555 and others who brought to us the many close-to-perfect AOSP ROMs I've been using. Especially @bubor, who patiently gave me a lot of help on minor issues. Seriously, you guys ROCK the Tegra world! :thumbup:
I also thank everyone who appreciated my assistance around here - without you guys I would've lost my motive to check up on XDA everyday.
I'll still occasionally check up on here and offer a hand, but until then... Au revoir.
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