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Yup, the Atrix 4G, the phone I was previously on, which my mom is currently using, just got a CM9 ICS ROM -_-;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1445052
We need to start moving and trying to get ICS on the Nitro. Even the Rezound also got AOSP ICS port, albeit some things still borked.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htc-rezound-gets-pure-aosp-ice-cream-sandwich-port/
Despite all the talk of starting slow with some improvement ROMs and maybe a CM7, I hate to say this, but we need to get either CM9 or ICS, or at least some kind of progress towards it. Every phone out there, old and new, are getting ICS or CM9 infused into them, I don't believe we can't do so with ours. We will spark much more interest in people and members here and maybe even more Devs if we bring ICS to the table. What do you guys/gals think?
I agree.
This is my first Android device and I really enjoy it a lot, thus I hope this phone can get a lively community of mods, roms, etc. At the same time, the SGSII LTE HD will be launching on AT&T soon, and I think that in order for this community to thrive we need ICS before this launch. The SGSII LTE HD is just about equal to the Nitro HD as far as specs are concerned, many who demand 720p and LTE will have the choice between the Samsung and the LG. Due to reputation, Samsung will undoubtedly outsell the Nitro.
I write this not to be **** and try to boss around people who donate their time and receive no more than some meaningless "Thanks" count. I am very appreciative that we have people like Bytecode, Kernelpanic, Cloudraker, and Malnilliom. (sorry if I left some people out, these guys just came to mind)
Lastly, does anyone know where to get guides on doing things like "ROM-cooking" and CM ports. Like I said, this is my first Android phone and I really don't know where to begin looking for this kind of information.
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I agree.
This is my first Android device and I really enjoy it a lot, thus I hope this phone can get a lively community of mods, roms, etc. At the same time, the SGSII LTE HD will be launching on AT&T soon, and I think that in order for this community to thrive we need ICS before this launch. The SGSII LTE HD is just about equal to the Nitro HD as far as specs are concerned, many who demand 720p and LTE will have the choice between the Samsung and the LG. Due to reputation, Samsung will undoubtedly outsell the Nitro.
I write this not to be **** and try to boss around people who donate their time and receive no more than some meaningless "Thanks" count. I am very appreciative that we have people like Bytecode, Kernelpanic, Cloudraker, and Malnilliom. (sorry if I left some people out, these guys just came to mind)
Lastly, does anyone know where to get guides on doing things like "ROM-cooking" and CM ports. Like I said, this is my first Android phone and I really don't know where to begin looking for this kind of information.
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Yeah, I didn't even know about the Skyrocket HD until someone mentioned it here on our thread, and I immediately thought to myself, "Aww F*** we are screwed now". I think it's a **** move by AT&T to release their "flagship" phone under LG and then less than a month later announce the Skyrocket HD. Sorry to say this, had I known they were gonna release the Skyrocket HD, I would've waited for it over the Nitro. But alas, what's done is done, there's no need to cry over spilled milk, the best thing to do is to move on and prove we have the better phone than Samsung does. Anyways, I never was a fan of Samsung Phones since they started making phones. I find they always look..cheap
So with that, again like red solo cup said, thank you to all who have contributed countless amount of time n effort to support us; Let's bring it to the next level!
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Yeah, I didn't even know about the Skyrocket HD until someone mentioned it here on our thread, and I immediately thought to myself, "Aww F*** we are screwed now". I think it's a **** move by AT&T to release their "flagship" phone under LG and then less than a month later announce the Skyrocket HD. Sorry to say this, had I known they were gonna release the Skyrocket HD, I would've waited for it over the Nitro. But alas, what's done is done, there's no need to cry over spilled milk, the best thing to do is to move on and prove we have the better phone than Samsung does. Anyways, I never was a fan of Samsung Phones since they started making phones. I find they always look..cheap
So with that, again like red solo cup said, thank you to all who have contributed countless amount of time n effort to support us; Let's bring it to the next level!
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谢谢大家的努力，我也非常的相信，一定可以让我们的p930更好！
xudejiong said:
谢谢大家的努力，我也非常的相信，一定可以让我们的p930更好！
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"Thank you for your efforts, I am very sure, will be able to make our p930 better!"
Best of luck. LG phones usually have mediocre/poor dev support.
Heh , Dont have a nitro but i just synced CodeAurora ICS Port for MSM8660 (thanks to codeaurora for making life a bit easier for qcom products) , My first Task would be to port the kernel , Test it with CWM (before i brick my friend nitro)
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Best of luck. LG phones usually have mediocre/poor dev support.
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Thank you for the well wishes! The dev/support for this device made that mainpage of XDA! Lots of progress and hard work from several devs !
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Thank you for the well wishes! The dev/support for this device made that mainpage of XDA! Lots of progress and hard work from several devs !
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Does it mean great things when our device is on the main page? Or will it still get overlooked. Not being sarcastic, really curious.
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I'll be here but i can't port anything to any device as i'm not that knowledgable i could bring stock heavily modified roms though.
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Does it mean great things when our device is on the main page? Or will it still get overlooked. Not being sarcastic, really curious.
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I didn't say anything was great, I would not know what great means in terms of development on a phone released 7 weeks ago.
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In that time span a cwm has been developed and 2+ roms with atleast one more announced on the mainpage so someone here at xda seems to think that warrants front page headlines so I am trustin their judgement as well as acknowledging the hard work devs have already accomplished.
It all sounds good to me. I'm new to all of this so I just don't know what to expect.
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I didn't say anything was great, I would not know what great means in terms of development on a phone released 7 weeks ago.
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In that time span a cwm has been developed and 2+ roms with atleast one more announced on the mainpage so someone here at xda seems to think that warrants front page headlines so I am trustin their judgement as well as acknowledging the hard work devs have already accomplished.
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Im very curious what Revolution is trying to bring to the table with his Domination HD Rom. More as the story progresses
WE should not even be thinking about sense/CM9 roms on here for awhile.
Quite frankly, I don't think CM will ever get around to making a ROM for this phone.
CM9 is being ported to the Lag Nitro by Ricardo Cerqueira. Head out to his Google+ to see what he's done.
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CM9 is being ported to the Lag Nitro by Ricardo Cerqueira. Head out to his Google+ to see what he's done.
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Yup, we've known that for the past couple of weeks gerax thanks for spreading the word though. it's keeping the hopes alive for this phone
Hello my Friends,
The time has really come to say Good Bye to all my Wonder Friends. I enjoyed and had a good time with all of you by learning/porting stuff.
I8150 is really a nice phone, but I needed to shift from this phone due to some reason.
Long story short, I spent half of my life in coding, leading teams of software engineers, managing enterprise level ERPs and architecting enterprise level application in all the latest and old languages/technologies. I took out some time and did some porting stuff, but my main target was to develop CM7 from sources.
I have most experience in Java/J2EE and less in C++. I tried to take help from different peoples but my bad luck no one guided me due to lack of time or just for no reason.
Not only from our forum I tried to contacted Exihibit II , Galaxy S Plus but I didn't get positive response, whatever the reason is but no one guide me. I searched myself and read a lot of material on net but not a single guide is perfect. There is no problem with Linux setup, I am use to of it.
I believe in Opensource and helping each other by spreading/sharing knowledge but in my case I couldn't search a person like this.
So I decided to switch (just not for CM7) to a device that have a lot of custom roms.
The porting I did is an asset for all of you. I want the guys should come up and take over the Roms from me. I hope you enjoyed my custom roms. If there is anyone who has some programming experience with smali/backsmali, apktool, understanding rom folders, hands on on merging /diff, ready to take risk of bricking then I will be happy to transfer my knowledge, but due to my tough schedule the person should be expert and self starter.
And finally I would like to special thank @arco, @andyroid, @irishpancake and All my Wonder community members.
Thank You All
i wish i had enough knowledge cuz i really wantd to learn from you but im just a noob at these stufff
but i hope u have a better experience with your new device
I Hate You For This...Really ...With a Poke.... So What is That New Device of Yours ?
Keep in Touch n Do Stick Around Once In a While
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wow. wow. I was shocked for a while. what a sad news. how could it be? but thanks, so many thanks for your effort and big contribution in our little community, for porting good rom, for sharing knowledge and many help you did to us, thanks to make our wonder phone more attractive with the rom but yeah, sometime you must move to a larger box while you don't fit anymore in a small one. thanks again alidsd
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Hi Ali dsd,
Please stick around as there's no one place or person to obtain this building -information in a reliable and complete form that we're looking for. I too got burnt similarly and still am in process of setting my own build environment based whatever that seemed to work for me from my captures from various blogs, forums and sites.
It's from open minded contributors like you that, when collectively packaged, would effective stuff come and came from. While I respectfully disagree this to be a reason for departure which is quite an expected risk with any open source stuff, I think your presence and continued contribution would benefit others looking to go along your route, though your participation might be less active than earlier.
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Thanks alidsd ...
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andynroid said:
I Hate You For This...Really ...With a Poke.... So What is That New Device of Yours ?
Keep in Touch n Do Stick Around Once In a While
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Don't worry @andyroid, I am not going from XDA, I will be around , I will be checking W forums ( I haven't deleted it from my Fav ) time to time.
Amazingly my new device is not a high end device, Its just Nexus S. I think you will ask why ????
It will save my time . ... How ???? Mostly all types of Rom flavors are there, I just need to flash and use it, and the time I save from here can put on getting some certifications (like PMP, J2EE Architect and MCPD ). Its my decision and it doesn't mean that Nexus S is superior then Galaxy W.
Believe me or not but Galaxy W is an amazing device based on hardware it uses and the small size is very pocket friendly.
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Hi Ali dsd,
Please stick around as there's no one place or person to obtain this building -information in a reliable and complete form that we're looking for. I too got burnt similarly and still am in process of setting my own build environment based whatever that seemed to work for me from my captures from various blogs, forums and sites.
It's from open minded contributors like you that, when collectively packaged, would effective stuff come and came from. While I respectfully disagree this to be a reason for departure which is quite an expected risk with any open source stuff, I think your presence and continued contribution would benefit others looking to go along your route, though your participation might be less active than earlier.
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I am always here, i can be reached on PM or email.
I have already said that anyone who have some knowledge in porting can contact me , i will happily transfer my knowledge, because sharing knowledge is the major path to increase knowledge and community, but the person should have some experience.
I want someone to continue MIUIv4 and AOKP, or if someone come-up with their own porting version of any Rom then please ask Mod to delete my two threads.
I really appreciate all of your feelings.
Thanks,
AliDSD
Thanks for your great contribution ali, really appreciate it
Nexus s is a great device to fiddle with I'm pretty sure you'll find lots of stuff to learn there
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Goodbye.......
Sad to see this... goodbye dear ali
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HI alidsd, I understand you, cause I have your same motivation on developing. I studied information tecnology, so I have some knowledgies, but I'm new with android and I'm trying to do somenthing with my rom. I have your main target, build cm7 from source, but as u said there isn't a guide that really help in this, and for me is difficult to begin with it.
So now I have begininng to first port some mods to a gb rom, then to learn how to create a kernel and to port a complete rom. After these steps I like to begin cm7 from source, but I know is really hard.
I also have to say that it is demotivating to see there aren't much developers for our phone, that we haven't ICS from Samsung and at this time we haven't a complete ICS rom, while there is a new android version so probably i never work on cm7, too old...and for this, i was thinking it was better if I took a nexus s....however i can't change phone for now, so i continue to study and develop for my W...but in future the only phone i'll buy should be a nexus or a phone with more contribute from community...
Goodbye Ali and good luck with your new phone
Friend alidsd :crying:
I am so sad to see you are moving on....I know it will be for the better for you and your career!!!!!
Thank you for mentioning me in your OP, I really appreciate it.....
[I have been missing recently, due to that health issue....but things are OK, and will hopefully stay that way....God willing]
The old community loses another member with such skills, first qzem, KP, now you!!!! [apologies to any others left out, no offence!!]
All the best for the future, and do drop by whenever you get time, it was really good!!!!
Cheers man :good: :good:
yo alidsd,,
well i guess this is not a goodbye coz you're still gonna be around here:].,but still have to say thanks for all your great works by porting some wonderful ROMs..Wonder's forum still open for your advice anytime you have,,
happy porting buddy..
regards,
kidd
i was motivated by your words Alisd, i really was serious and dreamed to learn more about android, i wanted to try what bagux was doing but i ain't got enough time for it. i was amazed and never imagined that a person whose managing software engineers also tried tweaking our W XD i'm just a beginner software engineer about 6months old on work and specialized in VB and for some reasons i can say i also am at Cobol, i was still trying to learn now despite of the schedule i have and i am starting it on making android apps for now and maybe tweaking in the future. can i ask what company are you working?
UPDATE
UPDATE
I got rid of Nexus S and bought HTC Desire S. Most of you will be wondering Why ???, a lot of reasons. if anyone have interest to know then he can PM me.
I would suggest guys not to go for Nexus S now, its not a good time, it could be debatable but its my personal opinion. All of the Roms that are available for NS are also available for DS.
At last Galaxy W is a good phone, so please stick with it till you find a better phone according to your needs.
Because I have been part of this community so I thought that I should update my community.
Thanks,
I am glad to read opinions about me, you are all wonderful people.
@irishpancake, I am really concerned about your health , please take care, and update your health status so our community can pray for you. God bless on you.
I am happy to see that Alex (from Galaxy S+) has ported MIUIv4 successfully , and I hope he will also port AOKP and other CM9 based Roms from S+ to W.
Its great, I believe :
Every threat comes with opportunity.
kemaro30 said:
can i ask what company are you working?
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yeah sure, but i can not give details here, currently i am working for a Canadian based company, working on an ERP.
alidsd...your wish has been granted hoping you are OK with it
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alidsd said:
I am glad to read opinions about me, you are all wonderful people.
@irishpancake, I am really concerned about your health , please take care, and update your health status so our community can pray for you. God bless on you.
I am happy to see that Alex (from Galaxy S+) has ported MIUIv4 successfully , and I hope he will also port AOKP and other CM9 based Roms from S+ to W.
Its great, I believe :
Every threat comes with opportunity.
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Dear Ali....please don't be overly concerned for me....I gotta lotta support from Family, Wife+ 2 Sons, both in 30's, really good guys, friends, etc......
I really appreciate your good wishes, and I can say that my recent operation was a success, so so far so good.....
God Bless you and your future good health!!
Just to say here, ppl should watch out for any signs regarding Cancer, it can be treated very successfully if got in time, it is important......life is very sweet!!!
please check yourselves regularly, it may save your life!!!!
but don't become obsessed by it either....:fingers-crossed:
Little by little I been noticing the dev's leave from our forums, So what will happen then? Tried myself to start creating a ROM but with no luck.... (laptop acts up most of the time). Anyways, as I was trying to imply what happens when development stops for the Hercules? Guess we will find out soon enough. I don't know if its due to the attitude given to these guys that are doing all this work for free or what? Kinda sad see that 2 developers go. Although their reasoning is personal and private, I can only imagine how they must feel when they do their best to make something for the public and all we do is nag on how bad it is or what can be done to change it.
This ain't to flame anyone or complain. Everyone has their personal likes. That being said why not invest some of that time of criticism and start doing your own. I have not been on this community for long as everyone can tell but I read and read and read. from our forum, the SR forum being that its similar device and its completely different atmosphere between the two. There's so much amicable peoplel there. They're willing to help on another. I just don't see it happening on our forums.Maybe, just maybe we just lost touch of what the community was created for.... to help one another create a better device for our daily use. Not to just constantly put in requests like the Dev is a radio dj . I for one. If its not that then its "this don't work buhuu!!!" It's been noticed here lately that there are sum differences between devices, hardware wise. That alone would drive anyone insane.. Bottom line, implement your personal touch to anything you use in here. That's what will make it your own pride and joy. I totally agree with stating something if it interfered with the functionality of the device. Then again its written very clearly in every single thread of ROM's, do this at your own risk. The developer is by no means responsible for any modifications you do to your device. When you decided to flash whatever it was you did, you took sole responsibility for your actions.
Last but not least, all I can say if it continues to be like this we might to go find new devices to toy with. This weeks its been 2 Devs that left. Next week might be 2 more and before you know it there wont be none. What then? Seriously, what then? With that said I want to say thanks for letting me vent and for creating this site for us (the daily users). Please nobody take any offense in particular for this is just my personal opinion. Doesn't reflect any ones else's but mines. Its a free community so I'm exercising my right to freedom of speech.
this is normal, as new devices emerge, like the SGS3 and Notes 2
Devs are naturally attracted to them
if you want to stay on the same device for a long time, then it's up to ourselves to learn now to compile, tweak, theme, and code the ROMs
a good example are the people over at the old Moto Milestone XT720 phone, that thing sucked when it came out at retail, and it's not very popular, but they took it upon themselves to build ROM from scratch and/or kanged it to make it a great device even after all these years, and the hardware limitation.
very much like the super geeks at the HTC HD2, can you imagine, that ancient relic able to run ICS, and most likely JB in near future
Get a new phone man. I don't plan on staying here much longer. I was tired of this phone 2 weeks after I got it. Its a miracle I'm still on it at all. Besides it has what it already needs. Amazing gingerbread and ICS roms both with great speed and battery life. What else do you want?
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This phone still has potential. Those devs left for personal reasons. I feel confidant that we will see more devs in our forum.
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Get a new phone man. I don't plan on staying here much longer. I was tired of this phone 2 weeks after I got it. Its a miracle I'm still on it at all. Besides it has what it already needs. Amazing gingerbread and ICS roms both with great speed and battery life. What else do you want?
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By no means it was intended for it to be a complaint as I stated. I personally love my S2, my point about the post was due to the current situations of Devs leaving. It seem like there's other reasons being other than personal. And I see it more and more as I read the posts about them getting aggravated about the constant requests. My point being, if all the above including myself feel they can do better why not begin by learning. Rome wasn't built in a day and i totally agree but I don't get how the community here is so much different than in the SR forum. Again it's not a complaint but just a personal opinion.
@ AllGamer, I totally agree wit you sir... alike a lot of us noobs would love to learn the hows and whats of creating custom ROMs but as like I said on my opener I can't due to misbehaving equipment. I've read pages and pages of the software needed and downloaded as best to my knowledge. Even went as far as to allow another community person to go into my laptop and find out where my issue was. The person himself was a Dev and by no means I was told to do so or anything like that. I gave him my permission to try to help me out so I could create from scratch without any luck. What my point is that maybe we're (myself included) have lost the purpose here and have made it to where we feel its owed to us to make things our way. Then again that's my opinion.
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This phone still has potential. Those devs left for personal reasons. I feel confidant that we will see more devs in our forum.
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Not only that. I just find that cm9 especially took a huge downfall once cm10 began to exist. I don't believe any time soon our devices will lack development. It's just there is so much out there to be done yet one questions "where do you even start!?" Personally once they get a stable build running of cm10 a lot of tweaks will begin getting added along with much kernel support being created. It's just a speed bump in the developer world, not a brick wall
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Looking at it from that point of view I can concur. But just hate seeing good devs run out like that. And to the most part being part of same teams. Weird to me again. Maybe I'm just one of those type of individuals that gets negative vibes about certain things. Just like the fact of it being personal reasons? I don't fully think that was it alone but who knows.
I still stand by my statement about the difference in attitudes between communities. Just seem like there's more "want" to help one another. Here everything is more frowned upon. Favorite reply here is " use the search button" but I'm sure posting a link to answer the question takes about the same amount of time. Or rather yet not reply at all if its just to get in a tantrum about doing it. Maybe its just my personal beliefs. I see it posted all the time, the community is to help regardless if lazy dumb or whatever (sorry about the dumb) but its just derogatory to sum. I'm a total noon but once in a while I have questions. Rather get an I don't know that be told search button is active. Thought it was the principle of this site.
Regardless of anything, its just I see no support on the development here. Either way I'll stop my rant and continue my educational reading.
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Honestly, I noticed the same thing in the SR forum almost instantly when I began reading sk8er's CM10 thread. It felt like "old xda" for me... In the future, I'm going to stick to more popular phones/Nexus devices since they generally have much better communities. That's part of the fun to our devices as gadget geeks IMO.
By the way, which devs left?
Remembering Old school Android for a minute...
I know you personally are not complaining OP, so plese nobody take no offense to any of this. I understand what you're saying and I always mod my own Rom to my liking. I had to learn to do it that way because I wouldn't bug any devs either for little personal things I liked. Just my 2 cents, but when I see threads like this, I have to think back to when I first had my Moto Cliq (big mistake there), my first Android phone, and have a bit of nostalgia. We had 2 developers, Travisjames and HandlerExploit. (props to you both if still around) That was it. The Cliq had no software support and updates were always 6+ months after other phones were receiving them, we couldn't overclock it, it was locked up tight, but somehow they provided a good user experience out of that old 1.5 Android Moto Blur. Lol! Made lemonade out of the sour lemons Moto gave us. I helped them by making some themes and learned alot about Android during this time just to give something back to the community. Everyone still begged Handler and Travis for ETA's, *****ed at them when things were going wrong, but considering they were the only 2 devs for the cliq, I always just encouraged their great work and tried to help them work through it, because those were are only two solid options for a good Rom. Whether you liked some things about it or not, they were still better than stock.
My Point in the end? That phone had basically only 2 Roms (in it's early days) for each software release that dropped. No kernels since that wasn't possible yet, and only 3-4 themes to choose from (one made by me after frustration of not finding a style I loved). Anything else had to be tweaked to your liking through trial and error, googling, or asking devs for help. That's when I learned how much hard work goes into some seemingly "Small" fixes or tweaks. Android is much bigger of a thing now, and we have so many different Roms out here to choose from. I feel lucky to be able to choose from: Sammy Roms, MIUI, AOKP, CM7/9 then 10, Paranoid, etc. and then onto mods: kernel choices, Overclocked, undervolted, different boot screens and themes (esp on MIUI/CM's), tweaks, etc. For a phone that dropped with GB I think were doing a pretty damn good job!
I know some devs will eventually leave with new devices arriving, as they have with the last 3 Android phones/2 tablets I've owned, but this community has alot to choose from... I'd personally like to say Thank You, to each and every Dev that has stuck with us, even if only for a little while. You have brough tons of choices, tons of speed, battery life, and beauty to this device. I don't know about anything but themeing myself, so I rely on all you guys to put out something hot. You never disappoint! If someone can't find a Rom/Kernel combo to fit their needs on here, they might never be happy!
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Honestly, I noticed the same thing in the SR forum almost instantly when I began reading sk8er's CM10 thread. It felt like "old xda" for me... In the future, I'm going to stick to more popular phones/Nexus devices since they generally have much better communities. That's part of the fun to our devices as gadget geeks IMO.
By the way, which devs left?
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Jamison904 and TheTechNiq left, due to deving took to much time away from there families .
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Jamison904 and TheTechNiq left, due to deving took to much time away from there families .
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It's time to upgrade then
Due to my infancy in time here I cant comment about the past on this site, "but" it still mind boggles me that at some point and time I cant contribute. I don't mind testing by no means. Being that at this point in time and due to equipment faultiness I can't do more than that. But my point is that there is a sort of aura that just don't mingle well with me. One point I seen that has mortified the crap out of me has been just the way people address others around. Like there is some sort of machismo just because he/she knows better or been around longer. Like i said maybe its just me, maybe its just my persona. Most of my posts are either checking in to report any issues with X Rom or so forth, questions or trying to help someone else with any questions that they might have as long as I'm capable of actually helping with.. With that being said, I fully understand that t the dev threads are intended for just that but why not keep them locked up other than to the people that want to test. Per say- as a form of request to be a tester or something before opening .
Just seems that the Devs get aggravated at anyone that comes in asking about small things just cuz there was no reading done what so ever. For good reason tho, its supposed to be for bug related posts, troubleshot and all of that. Maybe implement a form prior to opening the thread of any given ROM that states everything and what not works on it prior to allowing the user just go in and ask frivolous questions ( even understanding that no question is small in importance). But i see that being the main argument in the threads. Thought that was the purpose of the video? These are just my opinions. I'm just a grain of salt in all this sea.
Also would like to THANK everyone that puts forth an effort to make something out of nothing to make the t989 that much better for us.Guess it makes me a bit sensitive to see guys come up wit awesome work and then all the sudden it all falls apart. Either way that's my 2 cents. Thanks also to you guys that took the time to come in here for a read and for the input.
There will be many more devs for the t989. I've read the same s.it more than a year ago on the t959 forum. Their dev section is more "vibrant" than ever.
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Funny I was damn sure thinking the same thing myself. I came from a PPC6700 forum years ago where we had a kitchen and could make our own roms which was great. Then I had an Evo, Evo3D, Epic Touch and now Galaxy 2 and I must admit this forum is lacking with rom choices. I look at the development page and see threads last reply was a week or so ago still on page 1. That would not last an hour in the old Evo forums.
I get it that developers leave because of family and personal things but think about it. If we the end user did not complain and ask for this and that which I honestly feel some of it we could do ourselves, would that not leave them to more pure developing time. Which honestly if things are running right or small things need to be fixed and can be done by others it allows the developer more time to themselves.... Jus Sayin
The helping each other out is wonderful as well but hey the I can't find a kernel or where is this rom located in a forum with maybe half a dozen developers and main threads really never leaving Page 1 and you can't find it... Helping fine spoon feeding is another and the laziness is what causes a lot of bickering. I know just give them the answer but what about you helping yourself... I hope more developers come or at least they perfect AOKP JB since thats my favorite..
Good luck developers and good luck community... rant ova!
I hope the devs don't drop out, I just got the TMobile version. $99 @ target for the s2, or $229. Makes the math kind of obvious.
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Its not going to die no time soon its just the lack of interest that I fear most. Maybe at a later time or so they might get the ball rolling again but at the present it time seem a little weak. Well that's in comparison to our twin site( SR forum). Like I said before and I'll repeat again, its all about benefiting both end parties. Pops used to tell me and seem to fits well here, "one hand can't be cleaned up by itself, takes 2 to get it the way is supposed to be. " That's all my point is meant to be directed to. Not start world war 3 or nothing. Just feel like we are falling behind and its our own fault. If we have enough time to complain or address issues we also have time to help better the problem itself by addressing it and trying to solve it. Better yet, get this general threads or q&a threads just for that... I've personally seen ROMs with 400 or more pages and nothing is clarified. There's all sorts of people completely lost on steps on how to even install (flash) a certain ROM. There's guides yes but we all been to school here, we know that learning is not easy for everyone. Sh00t!!! Everyday is a learning experience. But some of us take longer than others.
Maybe its just my petpeeve to feel this way. But I know Im not alone when I say this, if there's someone that needs help and I can do it, no matter how small it is... I'll be there to do so.and if I can't help at least I'll learn something by helping that person search for the answers.
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I must be really out of it.
Who.. did we lose?
Lost another one today on a joking issue. Jamison , Thetechniq and BB today... and they continue to drop like flies.. who knows...
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dont we still have team chopsticks and TDJ?
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dont we still have team chopsticks and TDJ?
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Yes. Though TDJ is on a break from what I recall.. He certainly deserves it.
It's been fun, but it's time to move on. There really isn't any reason for me to continue work on this device, linux society has his kernels and now builds a CM10 rom, and the only things that made my roms different are also in his roms, so I choose to stop work and move onto another device that needs some loving. His roms and kernels and other mods will make for a spectacular CM10 based rom for you guys, I'm sure of it.
I'll continue to work with waydownsouth for the a100 device for CM, but other then that, I'm retired from the A100.
Please feel free to continue to PM, email, or even gchat me for help or just to BS, you can still find me in #iconia-dev on freenode though I'm afk most of the time.
Kuroikaze B2 and CM9 Nightly B68 will be my final uploaded roms for the A100. Jellytime X will never be uploaded, it has issues that require some work after flashing that I just don't feel the need to fix as I'm just going to stop afterwards anyways.
I had considered moving to the A200, but linux society has also ported to that device, so I'll move off the Iconia devices entirely and find something new to mess around with.
I've enjoyed the community a lot, and I hope it continues to grow and develop as it has been for the last few months I've been a part of it. It's one of the calmest, most helpful communities on XDA.
I'd just like to say thanks for all your hard work. I've learned alot from your posts. And good luck on your next endeavour.
If nothing else, I hope you stick around in the community, even without your work. I understand your reasons and appreciate all you've done , but just having good people around fosters a better community i think, even if they aren't actively contributing to development.
This being my 1st post, and new to the A100 I really reek of noob, but I have truly enjoyed your posts, projects and tutorials - they have really helped me (and countless others I'm sure) understand things better before I starting playing blindly. A big thanks for this, and best of luck with your future projects!
The A100 wouldn't be as active and fun to use without tireless contributions and efforts of great members like you. Thank you pio for all you have done and your support. Best of luck on your new projects. Before I get my next device I would want to be sure pio is lurking in that device's forum
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Still deciding between an a200 or maybe a thrive next. Not much besides modded stock is available for the thrive right now (sound familiar?) and it looks like a nice device to work with.
Tapatalked from my Galaxy S II.
thanks for all your work hope to see you around.
I hope you keep helping me with my noob questions, you're great man, thanks for everything!
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It's been fun, but it's time to move on. There really isn't any reason for me to continue work on this device, linux society has his kernels and now builds a CM10 rom, and the only things that made my roms different are also in his roms, so I choose to stop work and move onto another device that needs some loving. His roms and kernels and other mods will make for a spectacular CM10 based rom for you guys, I'm sure of it.
I'll continue to work with waydownsouth for the a100 device for CM, but other then that, I'm retired from the A100.
Please feel free to continue to PM, email, or even gchat me for help or just to BS, you can still find me in #iconia-dev on freenode though I'm afk most of the time.
Kuroikaze B2 and CM9 Nightly B68 will be my final uploaded roms for the A100. Jellytime X will never be uploaded, it has issues that require some work after flashing that I just don't feel the need to fix as I'm just going to stop afterwards anyways.
I had considered moving to the A200, but linux society has also ported to that device, so I'll move off the Iconia devices entirely and find something new to mess around with.
I've enjoyed the community a lot, and I hope it continues to grow and develop as it has been for the last few months I've been a part of it. It's one of the calmest, most helpful communities on XDA.
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I would love you forever if you could save the Sony tablet s
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So long and thanks for all the fish!
Farewell to one of the greatest contributors on XDA
Thanks once again and as always Pio. Your were, IMHO, the most contributing member of this community. Always there helping out everyone in need, remaining calm to those who request things which could be easily found with a simple search, and always managing to get your posts in a second before mine . You will be missed and remembered by this community Pio. May you continue your great work (as usual ), and reap your rewards to come (you know ).
Cheers .
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Thanks once again and as always Pio. Your were, IMHO, the most contributing member of this community. Always there helping out everyone in need, remaining calm to those who request things which could be easily found with a simple search, and always managing to get your posts in a second before mine . You will be missed and remembered by this community Pio. May you continue your great work (as usual ), and reap your rewards to come (you know ).
Cheers .
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Well when I said I'm retiring, I meant ROM wise, I do intend to remain on the forums and in IRC to help futher the community, be it in helpful posts or testing something out for waydownsouth or godmachine or anyone else needing testing or work done for the A100.
That being said, I just got home with my new toy, the Toshiba Thrive. I'll be doing my research, gathering files, and hopefully, waydownsouth, randomblame, gh123man and godmachine/linux society would be willing to help me with the parts that are still beyond me (which is most of it lol).
I am planning to keep the A100 for awhile yet, though if I get a decent offer, I may take it. For now, though, the A100 remains in my possession and for now at least, still gets a little love from me (in other words, an occasional kuroikaze may appear on goo.im, you know me, if I built it, may as well share it). Its a discontinued ROM, but I do still plan to at least include upstream CM updates and changes from time to time.
Thank you pio for all you've done to make our a100s awesome.
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All I see is a bunch of little kid hobbiests or elitists that never actually interact with the public. Half of these topics have no files because they're not maintained. And the other half blatantly lie to get views. What ever happened to being proud of your work and seeing something through to the end?
And where are the mods in this? While I know XDA allows and even encourages elitism; what about the lying and ill maintained threads? It just makes you look bad. I say, as a community, we need to stand up to this creeping illness and put a stop to it.
Admittedly, there are a couple of good hobbiests that try their best to maintain. I don't fault you guys.
Will you be a little thankful? The threads which have no files are from just 3 accounts belonging to the same person who got banned. These people, even those whom you call 'hobbyists' are spending their time to provide you with stuff which they are not being paid to do they may be learning and their skills will only increase over time. Most of all, this device has outdated hardware and is very difficult to develop for. So if you want more development, buy a One X or a Galaxy S3
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Will you be a little thankful? The threads which have no files are from just 3 accounts belonging to the same person who got banned. These people, even those whom you call 'hobbyists' are spending their time to provide you with stuff which they are not being paid to do they may be learning and their skills will only increase over time. Most of all, this device has outdated hardware and is very difficult to develop for. So if you want more development, buy a One X or a Galaxy S3
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OR....I could start a controversial thread in the forum of which I own a phone, challenging the lack of professionalism or decorum that seems to get worse and worse here. YOUR post being a perfect example.
This post was meant to be a challenge but turned into a complaint. For that, I apologize. But the sentiment still stands. We should ask for a little bit more accountability from these people if they want the crown of "developer". Dead links, no support and empty rom threads should be frowned upon. Not defended so blindly as you have.
And the people of whom I speak aren't banned, they post daily. Even einstiens files are mirrored.
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All I see is a bunch of little kid hobbiests or elitists that never actually interact with the public. Half of these topics have no files because they're not maintained. And the other half blatantly lie to get views. What ever happened to being proud of your work and seeing something through to the end?
And where are the mods in this? While I know XDA allows and even encourages elitism; what about the lying and ill maintained threads? It just makes you look bad. I say, as a community, we need to stand up to this creeping illness and put a stop to it.
Admittedly, there are a couple of good hobbiests that try their best to maintain. I don't fault you guys.
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If you do not know.......the wildfire S is a budget phone and the ones usually using them are either newbies or learning developers
If you want some serious development....you should probably get a mid-range or high-end phone...This is the best you'll get on such a device
And as for the mod,I also agree that he doesnt look much into this forum
The whole dev section is full of unfinished and buggy ROMs with little or no maintenance and support... but its an old device development was probably thriving back in its day
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The whole dev section is full of unfinished and buggy ROMs with little or no maintenance and support... Sent from Sony Neo
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I see you got a Sony Neo now. Please leave this section if you don't have anything useful to say. More interesting stuff in the Neo forum for you!!
We can say we got some good roms over here, CM7/9/10, MIUI, some sense ROMs etc. Support and maintenance is given to these ROMs until they are bugfree or there isn't a reason to update. CM9 is finished. It is bugfree and the CM team doesn't update its ICS repo's anymore. CM7 is finished too I find. Sense ROMs don't need support. They should just work flawlessly. And MIUI is up to the latest build it can be.
There are some unfinished ROMs out here. Check their thread and rating and leave it, simple as that.
So what I want to say is, show a little more respect to people who do this for free in their spare time. Most likely, the Wildfire S is our first smartphone and we started learning from zero. If you want something better, join the club and learn a bit more!! Up to today, there are only a handful devs for this device (gladiac, alquez, benjamin, dudeman, einstein, woefelderelict, me, ...).
If you see where we came from a year ago and now. I can say this community has given some great stuff.
I could never imagen that MIUIv4 could run on this phone
What makes it even more special is that this device doesn't have official ICS and powerful hardware.
If I see the One X getting CM10 for example, it's like "whatever, nothing special".
If you want Professionalism then pay and hire a Professional.
Stated by others all the development here is VOLUNTARY and at WILL…Remember all the people on XDA come from different walks of life and have different temperaments. XDA is also sort of a social forum where people of the same interests can self-promote, if you are annoyed about this then just ignore it, move on and if think those is not within the guidelines of the forum then report it. Only the popular device forums get most of the moderators’ attention.
You have to understand Developers are doing all this with their time, effort and own funds. It is at their election to maintain, and release any newer builds, which some do. Try building a ROM yourself and then try pleasing everyone who wants to use/try it, you will find it is not that easy. As for dead links, yes there are many, but that is how the internet of FREE file hosting service is, they will only host a file for limited time then purge the file for newer files.
I am not flaming you, do understand that this is a hobbyist community with people from around the world that help, and share what they have learned. Most posts are of people that have an issue with their device and wanting a fix, and then they disappear after they found an answer to their problem.
I am grateful for ALL the developers who have given their talent, knowledge, time and thoughts to this community no matter how small.
Just my two cents.
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I see you got a Sony Neo now. Please leave this section if you don't have anything useful to say. More interesting stuff in the Neo forum for you!!
We can say we got some good roms over here, CM7/9/10, MIUI, some sense ROMs etc. Support and maintenance is given to these ROMs until they are bugfree or there isn't a reason to update. CM9 is finished. It is bugfree and the CM team doesn't update its ICS repo's anymore. CM7 is finished too I find. Sense ROMs don't need support. They should just work flawlessly. And MIUI is up to the latest build it can be.
There are some unfinished ROMs out here. Check their thread and rating and leave it, simple as that.
So what I want to say is, show a little more respect to people who do this for free in their spare time. Most likely, the Wildfire S is our first smartphone and we started learning from zero. If you want something better, join the club and learn a bit more!! Up to today, there are only a handful devs for this device (gladiac, alquez, benjamin, dudeman, einstein, woefelderelict, me, ...).
If you see where we came from a year ago and now. I can say this community has given some great stuff.
I could never imagen that MIUIv4 could run on this phone
What makes it even more special is that this device doesn't have official ICS and powerful hardware.
If I see the One X getting CM10 for example, it's like "whatever, nothing special".
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Only my opinion man... didnt mean to offend any1
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Xda people are so rude. xD No Offence.
I concur.
Please show me a Rom that's posted for the marvelc, and I'll show you a rom that's unusable. And jelly bean?!? Even though there's multiple titles that say we have it. THERE IS NONE. I'm not trying to bag on the skill level. (Even though I did) Mostly it's the maturity, and the lack of responsibility for the work that is done here.
But whatever, I get it. I'm wrong and I'll stop talking.
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I concur.
Please show me a Rom that's posted for the marvelc, and I'll show you a rom that's unusable. And jelly bean?!? Even though there's multiple titles that say we have it. THERE IS NONE. I'm not trying to bag on the skill level. (Even though I did) Mostly it's the maturity, and the lack of responsibility for the work that is done here.
But whatever, I get it. I'm wrong and I'll stop talking.
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here's one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1776912
Wild Child sense nothing left to update and works well on marvelc or get the HenseMod VM patch and flash after you flash most marvel Roms. see lots of development for a year