Hi all,
Ok so my second GNex is in (White this time) and I wanted to try something different. Im right not on AOKP Build 40 which is a 4.04 ROM but I also am running a radio for 4.02 based roms (XXKK6). I've noticed I get substantially better signal than the newer radios that are out for it so I decided to keep it. My question is...is there any substantial harm im looking at by mixing an incorrect ROM and Radio this far apart? I know some of you have mixed it around but this radio is a couple versions old. Thanks in advance.
As long as the ril matches the radio you are fine. The latest aokp and cm9 builds use the ril for krlb1 radio. The easiest way to check is with the getril app off the play store.
This app will allow you to check if radio and ril match and download the correct ril if you are set on keeping your current radio.
First few days with the phone I had wicked signal drops until someone put me onto this app, now my signal is perfect.
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Well given that I've used a north american radio and RIL on my phone I'd say you're good. The radio and RIL doesn't even have to match as some RILs (believe it or not) work better than the one suggested.
dr.m0x said:
As long as the ril matches the radio you are fine.
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Theshawty said:
The radio and RIL doesn't even have to match as some RILs (believe it or not) work better than one suggested.
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Ad Theshawty said, there is no evidence that matching the RIL to the radio will give you better performance. It does for some, it doesn't for others.
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efrant said:
Ad Theshawty said, there is no evidence that matching the RIL to the radio will give you better performance. It does for some, it doesn't for others.
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Ok you are right. I must be imagining that my data doesn't drop randomly now my radio and ril match. Maybe it's because I'm holding my phone differently now.
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dr.m0x said:
Ok you are right. I must be imagining that my data doesn't drop randomly now my radio and ril match. Maybe it's because I'm holding my phone differently now.
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Dude no need to get upset. Different phones behave differently. No one said you were wrong. If it works for you great but my nexus didn't have a matching RIL and baseband either and was fine. The only data drops I had were with newer radios.
Jeez.
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joshnichols189 said:
Dude no need to get upset. Different phones behave differently. No one said you were wrong. If it works for you great but my nexus didn't have a matching RIL and baseband either and was fine. The only data drops I had were with newer radios.
Jeez.
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In addition, some of us have never had data drops, whether the RIL was matched to the radio or not.
I've tried a few different radios, and a few different RILs (matched and not matched), and I have not noticed any perceivable difference in reception/latency/throughput.
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dr.m0x said:
Ok you are right. I must be imagining that my data doesn't drop randomly now my radio and ril match. Maybe it's because I'm holding my phone differently now.
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Look dude, the best thing is to just test different radios and RILs. Asking here what mix is best won't help you the least as the mix that work for someone might not work for you, at all.
I found that it didn't help avoiding data drops by running a 4.0.3 radio and RIL (for me) while running AOKP. I don't know whether my drops are because of AOKP, my carrier, a certain radio or simply a mix of all.
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In addition, some of us have never had data drops, whether the RIL was matched to the radio or not.
I've tried a few different radios, and a few different RILs (matched and not matched), and I have not noticed any perceivable difference in reception/latency/throughput.
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I wonder what actually differentiates all radios out there for the Galaxy Nexus, since most seem alike. I could run a UGLC1 radio in Europe as perfect as I could run a Europe radio.
Theshawty said:
I wonder what actually differentiates all radios out there for the Galaxy Nexus, since most seem alike. I could run a UGLC1 radio in Europe as perfect as I could run a Europe radio.
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That is indeed the $1 million question...
We need someone to disassemble the radios... if it is even possible.
Well really when it boils down to it they are all for the same frequencies so they cannot be TOO different..
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if it is even possible.
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All I can say is that nothing's impossible. We just don't know what the possible solution is.
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I lost my signal and browsing forum I found a suggestion to update my Radio
can tell me best Radio for galaxy nexus ? and how to update.
Tnx
Ariakan said:
I lost my signal and browsing forum I found a suggestion to update my Radio
can tell me best Radio for galaxy nexus ? and how to update.
Tnx
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If there was a "best radio," there would only be one, wouldn't there?
jstegeman said:
If there was a "best radio," there would only be one, wouldn't there?
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If he has a CDMA phone, that one is actually true
As for GSM radios, and some light discussions around what works where, see thread linked in my sig.
i forgot
i have GSM galaxy nexus
Following your suggestion josteink
I installed this radio
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1374077
Ariakan said:
Following your suggestion josteink
I installed this radio
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1374077
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I'd recommend XXKL1 over that one, but feel free to try both out and see what works best.
Usually takes a few days (at least for me) to get a solid feel for how a radio performs, both stability-wise, speed-wise and with regard to battery-consumption.
XXKK6 is great. i am using it with stock 4.0.2. great on battery and very stable. using it for past 2 weeks. no issues.
i did trimmed my radio from my Yakjuux with the latest radio , i did not had a great result with this radio but sharing with the other could be helfulf for others .
thanks .
http://www.mediafire.com/?v10pmeyfe6pmz5j
Can you include the Md5 hash please? Thanks
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yakjuux has 4.0.4?? Did I miss something?
jeetS said:
yakjuux has 4.0.4?? Did I miss something?
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Yes, apparenty you did
UGLC1 eh? Correct me if I'm wrong, but is this the March 2012 Canadian Radio? Because I'm trying to stick with the latest release designed for Canadian HSPA+ carriers.
Wifi signal is way better.. Nothing is dropping Thanks for the upload.
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I could be mistaken but I think UG is more "North America" but I guess for GSM that pretty much means "Canada" - though I use mine on AT&T in the states. UGKL1 is the one I've got would love to know what people think of this
roadhead said:
I could be mistaken but I think UG is more "North America" but I guess for GSM that pretty much means "Canada" - though I use mine on AT&T in the states. UGKL1 is the one I've got would love to know what people think of this
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Thanks, and yeah, that's all I meant. I just knew that XX was Europe. So if UG is for North America, then that covers Canada as well. And I flashed it with no problem, seem to be getting better WiFi reception, as well as losing connection to Google Servers less often (Grey signal bars) which I had a lot of trouble with using UGLA4. So far so good
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Thanks, and yeah, that's all I meant. I just knew that XX was Europe. So if UG is for North America, then that covers Canada as well. And I flashed it with no problem, seem to be getting better WiFi reception, as well as losing connection to Google Servers less often (Grey signal bars) which I had a lot of trouble with using UGLA4. So far so good
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UG = North America
L = 2012
C = March
1 = Revision 1
This is the newest radio that we've ever had. Newer than UGLA4 & XXLA2
Any difference from UGLA4?
pastasauce said:
Any difference from UGLA4?
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Results will vary. You have to flash it and conclude yourself.
For me and others (in the major radio thread) it has been the best radio.
This is the newest radio, so give it a try. If it doesn't give you what you want, flash back the old radio you were using before.
I've had problems with all the other newer radio's.
But this one is a keeper. Cheers.
856D3A873A6D470E47A40226E653D599 right this md5 guys?
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856D3A873A6D470E47A40226E653D599 right this md5 guys?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24308497&postcount=362
just flashed this, so far so good.
in los angeles area tmobile
Not by a computer hopes someone can make a flashable zip soon
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XAviierG said:
Not by a computer hopes someone can make a flashable zip soon
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Check link in zephik's post, three posts up. ;-)
Vangelis13 said:
Check link in zephik's post, three posts up. ;-)
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Sweet didn't see that thanks!!!
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Do i have to be on 4.0.4? Im on 4.0.3 and i was wondering if i could flash this
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hasnol143 said:
Do i have to be on 4.0.4? Im on 4.0.3 and i was wondering if i could flash this
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Absolutely. I'm still on AOKP M4. Flashed UGLC1 and no problem so far.
Not sure how many others have done this, but I had enough of 4.0.4
The problems I saw were (mostly radio related):
The lock screen was very laggy when unlocking the phone (> 1 sec)
The signal would flat out die before it cut over to edge in my basement
I would often see that the connection would die during sleep (powering on the phone and see it suddenly perk up)
A few occasions where answering the phone turned my screen black and dropped the call
Radio issues where, after multiple changes between edge/3g/hspa, I would only pull 1mbps down on hspa. A reboot ticked it back up to 5mbps.
Far worse data speeds in my house. Upstairs I could get 2mbps on 4.0.2 with XXKK6, with 4.0.4 on XXLA2 I was getting 0.6mbps at best.
Mind you, I've both applied the update via Clockwork Mod, and when that was having trouble reflashed the entire phone with the Google factory image.
So, last night I reflashed the 4.0.2 factory image instead. My computer was nice enough to hard lock on me in the middle of it, so I had to apply it twice, but I'm back on 4.0.2 and things are good now. I put Clockwork Mod back on as well to prevent an OTA from loading.
EDIT: Wow, 4 1-start votes already? Who would have thought that saying I ran into problems with 4.0.4 was the equivalent of personally insulting people?
Sound like you need to run BAMF
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Mine Nexus doesn't do that, must be some PEBKAC related problem.
Did you try a ugla4 or uglc2 radio and the smart reflex edit?
bow chicka wow wow.
I flashed from 4.0.2 yakjuxw to 4.0.4 yakju and i actually experience better radio reception, for the first time i get a low 3g reception in my house from time to time, before i only had a medium strong edge reception.
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MS. said:
Mine Nexus doesn't do that, must be some PEBKAC related problem.
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Thanks for the useless comment, because clearly I must be struggling with the fine motor function involved with sliding the lock screen slider to the right. Or, maybe it's the intricate knowledge involved with not changing any of the OS's radio settings and allowing it to try to manage itself.
bendirkss said:
Sound like you need to run BAMF
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Yeah, part of me is pondering other ROMs; haven't made up my mind yet.
@rbiter said:
Did you try a ugla4 or uglc2 radio and the smart reflex edit?
bow chicka wow wow.
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I didn't because there were issues beyond radio problems, namely the sluggishness on unlocking it and the mysterious behavior that I saw answering calls a few times. I might get bored one weekend and try reflashing with one of those radios instead.
I've done the radio reflash song and dance before on 4.0.2 because of the bug that I both mentioned here and logged on Google:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1488097
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=25316
Unfortunately, despite providing data, Google has totally ignored the issue. Ultimately I just decided to stick with XXKK6 and let it do its own switching.
Tjotte said:
I flashed from 4.0.2 yakjuxw to 4.0.4 yakju and i actually experience better radio reception, for the first time i get a low 3g reception in my house from time to time, before i only had a medium strong edge reception.
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My reception on calls has been fine, but the overall bugginess of the radio, particularly with data speeds, has been untenable.
So far my phone has been working much better with 4.0.2. Again, if I decide to flash 4.0.4 again and mess with the radio I'll update the thread.
How do you give a negative rating to a thread?
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How do you give a negative rating to a thread?
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Wow, I'm amazed at the hate this is attracting. Thanks!
I would have preferred suggestions about the problems my phone was having with 4.0.4, but it sounds like the only suggestions people are interested in making at this point would be of a personal nature.
I ran stock instead of custom for a few weeks but I just missed the little things. (Battery percent in status bar, toggles). I say try bamf for a dew days
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ChazzMichaelMichaels said:
Wow, I'm amazed at the hate this is attracting. Thanks!
I would have preferred suggestions about the problems my phone was having with 4.0.4, but it sounds like the only suggestions people are interested in making at this point would be of a personal nature.
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Sorry people are like this on here. One thing you could always try is running 4.0.4 with 4.0.2 radios if you found better reception with them. There is a whole list of flash able radios
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Its no wonder why most people feel this is the worst forum on xda. To be honest, its because of how people are in this thread and the hard time they give the op for no reason, that I can no longer stand coming here. I hope all of you so called experts brick your phones and leave here for good.
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mark manning said:
Sorry people are like this on here. One thing you could always try is running 4.0.4 with 4.0.2 radios if you found better reception with them. There is a whole list of flash able radios
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Ah, I didn't know if that was a safe thing to do or not. My hunch was that running older radios on newer ROMs might be dangerous; sounds like I was mistaken though.
mark manning said:
Its no wonder why most people feel this is the worst forum on xda. To be honest, its because of how people are in this thread and the hard time they give the op for no reason, that I can no longer stand coming here. I hope all of you so called experts brick your phones and leave here for good.
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Noooo! Come back! You're trying to help!
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Ah, I didn't know if that was a safe thing to do or not. My hunch was that running older radios on newer ROMs might be dangerous; sounds like I was mistaken though.
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Radios are not linked to version #'s like in the past. The reason they are labeled that way now is because it just so happens to relate to their corresponding release timing.
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I must say I've noticed no difference coming from AOKP 4.0.3 to 4.0.4.Just some anomalous battery drain in standby but I can't help but flash experimental kernels every other day so that's more than likely the culprit.
Thanks, but I meant an actual negative number
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If you had these same issues with the factory image, then you need to be posting this on the AOSP forum @ Google.
I seem to always get in trouble for making a thread, or it goes unnoticed. just a question on how much work would it be to port over a Verizon gnex rom to sprint gnex? I'm not dev at all but I imagine it would only be a radio and some other small things. Again I could be missing the big picture, I just got my sprint gnex yesterday and I can't wait for highly custom roms! If its not to advanced I'd love to take a crack at it if anyone would be willing to teach me how
Mods move it to wherever you want....
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Too me it just seems that something needs to be done with the radio as of now flashing a verizon rom works fine except for the radio which is data and whatnot. As soon as they get aosp running with mms fixed and find the radio so if the radio gets borked then I am sure those developers of the verizon roms could hopefully just add compatibility with sprint.
That is all I know as of now
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why would you want that? the sprint rom is better
What makes it better though? Aren't they literally the exact same phone just different networks? I'm glad its better if it is I almost bought the Verizon one hahah
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bdubs4200 said:
What makes it better though? Aren't they literally the exact same phone just different networks? I'm glad its better if it is I almost bought the Verizon one hahah
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One is not better then the other
In fact like i said above Verizon roms almost fully work on ours except the radio, once they get that fixed i am sure we can share roms with verizon people but who knows? Our device is still brand new and will be a little bit til we have as many roms as verizons forum
BTW don't flash verizons roms until there is a radio fix some poor people have broken radios and are waiting as people are looking to fix it.
just in case you were thinking about flashing one
There is nothing superior about Sprint roms that isn't remedied by AOSP.
Now if you are talking about zip roms, tsk, tsk.
Those are a crime against humanity...er, the Nexus The device is open enough to not warrant such a thing.
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What makes it better though? Aren't they literally the exact same phone just different networks? I'm glad its better if it is I almost bought the Verizon one hahah
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They use differen radio frequencies, which the CPUs are programmed for. They are incompatible. That's what causes the data problems. That's just about the only difference in terms of hardware.
davidrules7778 said:
One is not better then the other
In fact like i said above Verizon roms almost fully work on ours except the radio, once they get that fixed i am sure we can share roms with verizon people but who knows? Our device is still brand new and will be a little bit til we have as many roms as verizons forum
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Radio is fixed. The problem is mms.
Wanna test? Team BAMF is looking for a few good geeks, er testers. PM me your email address.
adrynalyne said:
Radio is fixed. The problem is mms.
Wanna test? Team BAMF is looking for a few good geeks, er testers. PM me your email address.
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oooo
I would love too but no device for me yet
Also is do we have a way to restore the radio if ours get borked?
It should be posted in wordswisely's thread
davidrules7778 said:
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I would love too but no device for me yet
Also is do we have a way to restore the radio if ours get borked?
It should be posted in wordswisely's thread
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I've seen successful LTE radio pull, but not CDMA yet.
No radio included on our rom, so when you get your device, look me up
adrynalyne said:
I've seen successful LTE radio pull, but not CDMA yet.
No radio included on our rom, so when you get your device, look me up
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so here is a question:
Once we have the cdma radio pulled and mms working would there be anyway that verizon roms with a little modification to the radio and whatnot to get them working easily. or do they have to redo the whole rom special?
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Radio is fixed. The problem is mms.
Wanna test? Team BAMF is looking for a few good geeks, er testers. PM me your email address.
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Pm sent ;-D
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davidrules7778 said:
so here is a question:
Once we have the cdma radio pulled and mms working would there be anyway that verizon roms with a little modification to the radio and whatnot to get them working easily. or do they have to redo the whole rom special?
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The only real difference from Sprint to Verizon are the ril props outside of the mms issue.
So, no, not hard, but just as easy for the devs to simple compile for Sprint.
adrynalyne said:
The only real difference from Sprint to Verizon are the ril props outside of the mms issue.
So, no, not hard, but just as easy for the devs to simple compile for Sprint.
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Cool
Ill hit u up may 18th if u still need testers for future stuff
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^^ what he said
Hi, I'm confused on what radio I should use with my GSM GN, I'm about to install LS 1.35, however I will also need a new 4.0.4 radio, to get the best signal and battery life, so what radio are you guys running?
jacobtc said:
Hi, I'm confused on what radio I should use with my GSM GN, I'm about to install LS 1.35, however I will also need a new 4.0.4 radio, to get the best signal and battery life, so what radio are you guys running?
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As far as 4.0.4 radios go you have two choices: UGLC1 and XXLA2.
I'm on LC1 personally, haven't felt the need to test other BB's since. There are often too many variables to declare a BB as a clear winner.
In case you haven't seen the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1405345
Matrix at bottom for the "preferred" BB: http://source.android.com/source/building-devices.html
Hi i was just wondering if the Radio is region Specific? Had the HTC Hero Previous and was always told that i should flash the latest radio, is that the same here?
Best reagards.
ChosSimbaOne said:
Hi i was just wondering if the Radio is region Specific? Had the HTC Hero Previous and was always told that i should flash the latest radio, is that the same here?
Best reagards.
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works universal. just dont flash cdma radios when u are obviously on gsm
zephiK said:
works universal. just dont flash cdma radios when u are obviously on gsm
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It works but I remember xx being Europe and ug being North America
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Since you're located in Denmark, I suggest you use the XXLA2 radio. XX radios are apparently best suited for Europeans, while UG radios (like UGLC1) are best suited for the United States and Canada.
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It works but I remember xx being Europe and ug being North America
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It doesn't matter. This phone is pentaband. Phones being sold on the play store are shipping out to American see with xxla02. I'm American and I prefer xx radios over ug. You just have to try them and see which one is better for you.
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It doesn't matter. This phone is pentaband. Phones being sold on the play store are shipping out to American see with xxla02. I'm American and I prefer xx radios over ug. You just have to try them and see which one is better for you.
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Thanks for the advice will try during the weekend
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UGCL1 i have gotten better signal strength, better data speeds, no signal disconnect and never lost google sync. On XXLA2 I had some issues with speeds and signal. I recommend UGCL1 but test yourself and see a lot of people like the XXLA2 for whatever reason.
p.s. UGCL1 is the newest
Here's a link for the UGCL1 radio in case you can't find it. Kinda buried in a bunch of posts.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24308497
EDIT: Every time I try to flash it, it aborts installation. Halp?
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theking_13 said:
Here's a link for the UGCL1 radio in case you can't find it. Kinda buried in a bunch of posts.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24308497
EDIT: Every time I try to flash it, it aborts installation. Halp?
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Possibly bad md5 hash. verify its hash or re download
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Re downloaded 3 times, same thing. Anyone else have a working UGCL1 flashable radio? Or at least a link to it?
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What is the best radio for Asia? Thanks!
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Re downloaded 3 times, same thing. Anyone else have a working UGCL1 flashable radio? Or at least a link to it?
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PM me your email and I can send my known working copy to you if you'd like it.
Edit: sent
CMNein said:
PM me your email and I can send my known working copy to you if you'd like it.
Edit: sent
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Thanks!
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jesongaudan said:
What is the best radio for Asia? Thanks!
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Best radio is to use them all starting with the latest one and determine the one best for YOU. One radio good for one person is not the same for you because you two live on different parts of the world + different carriers.
Thanks for this thread, guys. Very informative.
Use LAX2 as that works best. And you get better battery life compared to the previous releases