I might receive my new Seidio 3500mah extended battery today for the Galaxy Nexus, and I'm not sure if I need to do certain things before installing it, to those with experience.. do I simply install/power up the phone/start charging? or do I need to keep my phone off and start charging? does it make any difference having the phone On or Off the first time you install an extended battery? I read on Seidio's website that they recommend to keep it charging for at least 3-4 hours after it's 100% charged, would that be the procedure with every charge..?
And do I need to Wipe Battery Stats before installing it? it's things like these that came to my mind, I just wanna make sure I'd do the right thing the first time I have it on.
Thanks everyone. :good:
IMO, I just install the new battery and turn it on and charge it to 100 then use it as normal. The very first time it might go down fast but after a few cycles it should improve.
biscuitownz said:
IMO, I just install the new battery and turn it on and charge it to 100 then use it as normal. The very first time it might go down fast but after a few cycles it should improve.
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Is "Wipe Battery Stats" needed? and do you need to charge it 3-4 hours every time it hits 100%?
Thanks.
Rovian said:
Is "Wipe Battery Stats" needed? and do you need to charge it 3-4 hours every time it hits 100%?
Thanks.
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Not sure if it's necessary but I would leave a new, extended battery on the charger for at least an extra hour after it says "Full". Other than that, don't worry about wiping battery stats, that has become an unnecessary procedure these days. Only very rarely does it seem to help anything and even then it is debatable.
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Not sure if it's necessary but I would leave a new, extended battery on the charger for at least an extra hour after it says "Full". Other than that, don't worry about wiping battery stats, that has become an unnecessary procedure these days. Only very rarely does it seem to help anything and even then it is debatable.
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Do I have to extra charge it for an hour or so every time?
And thanks man.
Rovian said:
Do I have to extra charge it for an hour or so every time?
And thanks man.
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If the phone says it has a full charge you can take it off the charger. Every time you plug the phone into the charger it wipes it own battery stats to make new ones for that new cycle.
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nativi said:
If the phone says it has a full charge you can take it off the charger. Every time you plug the phone into the charger it wipes it own battery stats to make new ones for that new cycle.
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*Every time it charges to full
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Do I have to extra charge it for an hour or so every time?
And thanks man.
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No, just the first time. I do it as more of a "superstition"-type thing, not really based in science or fact. :silly: But, I have always had good battery life with new phones/batteries (fingers crossed) so I don't plan on stopping anytime soon. Other than that, you should be fine. My phone has taken well to my extended battery without having to do anything at all.
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No, just the first time. I do it as more of a "superstition"-type thing, not really based in science or fact. :silly: But, I have always had good battery life with new phones/batteries (fingers crossed) so I don't plan on stopping anytime soon. Other than that, you should be fine. My phone has taken well to my extended battery without having to do anything at all.
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Thanks a lot man, my battery for some reason didn't arrive yesterday , hope I'd receive it today or so, I'll call them up later today when I get back from work.
Appreciate your responses everyone.
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Found this on another forum, I have done this a few times myself (do it whenever i flash a new rom because i always clear battery stats, can't hurt). Have found that it does top it up a fair bit. Before doing this i find my desire will drop to +-93% straight off the charger, however this keeps it 100% longer and i actually get to see the numbers 99-94%
Worth a go in my opinion because it only takes 5 mins of your time and can't hurt the phone... So any minor gain from this process is a win...
Hi *******, I understand your concern regarding battery life on your Nexus One device. The following steps should significantly extend the battery life on your phone. Please connect the phone to the charger with the phone powered on, and allow the phone to charge until the notification LED is green, indicating the device is fully charged. Disconnect the phone from the charger, and power it off. Reconnect the phone to the charger with the phone powered off, and allow the phone to charge until the notification LED is green. Disconnect the phone from the charger and power it on. Once the phone is powered completely on, power it off again and reconnect it to the charger until the notification LED is green. Disconnect the phone, power it on, and use it. You need to use this sequence only once. If the issue of battery life on our phone persists, I recommend you contact our HTC accessory department directly.
Mod Edit: There have been a few reports of damaged batteries by people on this thread. There is a chance that this MAY damage your battery. Please bear this in mind if you choose to follow the instructions above.
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Thanks for that. At what point do you wipe battery stats? After the process is complete?
desire888 said:
Thanks for that. At what point do you wipe battery stats? After the process is complete?
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Also wondering about this
You should wipe battery stats after its fully green (when powered off) then boot the phone back up.
You only need to do this once
I.e.
Charge till full when powered on
power off
charge till full again
boot into recovery wipe stats
boot and continue to use as normal
It works!!!
That's fantastic!
I read this topic this morning and tried immediately. Since this morning i only lost 4% until now. That's great news!
Thx a lot, man!
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thanks!!!!
battery usage is much better now!
how do you wipe batt stats?
kmetek said:
how do you wipe batt stats?
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Via ClockWorkMod recovery
kmetek said:
how do you wipe batt stats?
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Clockworkmod recovery -> advanced -> wipe battery stats.
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do i have to repeat that in future again?
vidler said:
You need to use this sequence only once.
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first post
takes a long time to charge my Desire, but then i'll test this one!
Hope this will make battery life better. I have the same problem as described in first post (drops immediatly from 99% down to 93% )
Can someone suggest me how should I go about doing this if I use multiple batteries?
I'd imagine the phone can only be calibrated to 1 battery. But if I were to use another battery, would I screw up the calibration to the original batteries?
Right now as it is with moderate usage I need 3 batteries to last me through the day. :S
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Can someone suggest me how should I go about doing this if I use multiple batteries?
I'd imagine the phone can only be calibrated to 1 battery. But if I were to use another battery, would I screw up the calibration to the original batteries?
Right now as it is with moderate usage I need 3 batteries to last me through the day. :S
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3 batteries?!
What rom are you using and how exactly are you using your phone?
I have just one battery and it lasts about 2 days with moderate use.
I am using this ROM: (sorry can't post link)
[ROM] Rooted Official HTC Android 2.2 (FroYo) ROM [Market issue fixed]
With my typical usage, I unplugged the phone in the morning from the charger, by the time I knock off from work, I would have left about may be 20%. With stock ROM and a single battery, there is no way that I could last 2 days with one single charge. My main use is web browsing, RSS, Facebook and IM. My estimation of my solid screen time is about 2-3 hours.
So I bought more battery just in case, and played with custom ROMs. I ended up using up a whole battery in 4 hours or so. Definitely something is wrong here. My gut feel is that both the ROM and batteries are suspects. Being a newbie I really need enlightenment.
Is it really needed to wipe the stats? I think I've accidently done this once already... cause the battery life is much better.
since this procedure, my battery stays at 100% since nearly 2 and a half hours now and i did 2 text messeges in between and recently checked the bat about 4 times
this couldnt be possible..
i mean the battery is almost doubled in comparison to how long it lasts before
is this possible??
yes it is possible
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yes it is possible
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but how?
i mean in this time the battery would have been dropped to arround 97
and now its still full?
i mean these are stats how are they increasing battery life? the batterylife is given from the cell itself?
Hey everyone,
I received my Xperia Arc S 3 days ago. Well, since it's my first smartphone and I was not used to it I first used all the battery and then I gave it 12hours of charging.
Well it seems I did it wrong since Li-Poly batteries shouldn't be charged on that way. So, here are my questions.
1. The fact of letting my phone completely discharge and then give it 12 hours charge was a BIG MISTAKE?
2. How can I correctly charge my device?
Thank you all.
Why it should be a big mistake?
I've done the same:
buying
completely discharged
charged for many hours
I haven't any battery drain or something and I also heard you should do that (correct me if I'm wrong).
Hey pal,
Well I thought it would be the right procedure as well but it seems that with Li-Poly batteries we shouldn't let them completely discharge as it may affect its life. However, I am not sure and I still don't know if it's the truth! Let's wait for some more feedback and see what's coming.
Plus, how long does your battery stand?
Note: In addition, thank you for your response
These new batteries need no charging circles etc
You're good to go
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Flo95 said:
These new batteries need no charging circles etc
You're good to go
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Excuse me Flo95,
Did you mean charging cicles? What do you mean by good to go? That I don't have to let it discharge and I may charge it whenever I want?
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Excuse me Flo95,
Did you mean charging cicles? What do you mean by good to go? That I don't have to let it discharge and I may charge it whenever I want?
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If I'm correct previous batteries had 5% circles and current batteries have about 20% (as a full charge).
He means that everything is okay and you won't have any problems.
dp94 said:
If I'm correct previous batteries had 5% circles and current batteries have about 20% (as a full charge).
He means that everything is okay and you won't have any problems.
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Ok buddy,
Thank you for that!
Well, plus, can I remove the device after 3 / 4 hours (as long as it says 100%) of charging and normally use it with only that time of charging? What about the opposite? Let it charge all night long while I sleep? No problem with both methods?
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Ok buddy,
Thank you for that!
Well, plus, can I remove the device after 3 / 4 hours (as long as it says 100%) of charging and normally use it with only that time of charging? What about the opposite? Let it charge all night long while I sleep? No problem with both methods?
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No problem with both.
Usually I'm charging over night too.
But if I remember right a complete charge only needs about 2 hours.
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No problem with both.
Usually I'm charging over night too.
But if I remember right a complete charge only needs about 2 hours.
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Well, my one is charging for 2 hours now and it says its battery is 88% charged!
I have to leave in 1:30 hours and I guess It'll be fully charged then. Hopefully I won't have to charge it again during the night
You can plug it in as long as you want, nothing will happen exept the battery gets charged.
Sometimes I plug it in 5 mins before going out and my battery is ok.
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BATTERY CALIBRATION
Hi!
As we know when we install a new rom we sometimes have battery drain or when we flash a new kernel etc..... what is this?? this means that your battery goes to 0% very quickly!
The normal steep is goes to recovery and wipe battery stats!!
but what i do if in recovery don't appear something like wipe battery stats??
simple!! be sure that your nexus is completely charged,download this app ,, tap on battery calibration !! (after that charge your nexus without break)and congratulations.... buy a beer and make a party!!
I don't made this app.... just share it....
i will upload the link in a note pad... why?? simple.... i can't put links!!!
There is no need for battery calibration. Just discharge to 0% then charge back to 100% and you should be good to go.
Shmi117 said:
There is no need for battery calibration. Just discharge to 0% then charge back to 100% and you should be good to go.
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o really?? i post that because sometimes when i flash a new kernel my battery percentage lie.... when i had for example 15% mi tablet shut down and i calibrate with this app and mi tablet shut down in 0%... normally...... and i do that always y flash a new rom or a kernel...... maybe i'm wrong .....
Shmi117 said:
There is no need for battery calibration. Just discharge to 0% then charge back to 100% and you should be good to go.
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It doesn't even need to be to zero.
Everyone should go to batteryuniversity.com and read the articles on cycling and charging li-Ion batteries. Then you will be able to make sense of conflicting advice on batteries.
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ezas said:
It doesn't even need to be to zero.
Everyone should go to batteryuniversity.com and read the articles on cycling and charging li-Ion batteries. Then you will be able to make sense of conflicting advice on batteries.
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mmmmm thanks for the page....
The myth of wiping battery stats was thoroughly debunked almost a year and a half ago. It is a 100% true statement that neither this app nor wiping battery stats in recovery has ever affected anyone's battery life or battery indication in any way, shape, or form.
Want to know why battery drains after flashing a new rom or kernel? Hint- it has absolutely nothing to do with incorrect battery stats- totally disregarding the fact for a moment that batterystats.bin has absolutely nothing to do with battery charge indication.. After flashing a new rom, your device is actually using more battery than usual as accounts are set up and synced. Likewise, after flashing a new kernel, it takes a short amount of time for the kernel to "settle."
If you still believe the myth that battery stats need to be wiped every now and again, there's an even easier way to do it than wiping in recovery or using some snake oil app... charge your device to full or near full and then unplug it from the charger. Voila- you've just successfully wiped battery stats!
Shmi117 said:
There is no need for battery calibration. Just discharge to 0% then charge back to 100% and you should be good to go.
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This.
OP, stop posting nonsense. Seriously.
Strange battery behavior
It's actually odd, my battery started getting stuck at 100% like a week ago or so, after 11 hrs standby time and 30 mins screen-on time, it doesn't even drop 1%. However, it shuts down normally at 1%. I actually tried so many things to fix this, i opened the back cover and pulled the battery out, i let it run dead and charge it all the way up, but it just seems to like that 100% mark. Since it actually shuts down at 1%, i wanted to make sure it's completely dead, so i booted into recovery and oddly, with max brightness in twrp, it took about 15 mins for the device to completely shut down.
Any ideas what might fix this?
coolbyte9 said:
It's actually odd, my battery started getting stuck at 100% like a week ago or so, after 11 hrs standby time and 30 mins screen-on time, it doesn't even drop 1%. However, it shuts down normally at 1%. I actually tried so many things to fix this, i opened the back cover and pulled the battery out, i let it run dead and charge it all the way up, but it just seems to like that 100% mark. Since it actually shuts down at 1%, i wanted to make sure it's completely dead, so i booted into recovery and oddly, with max brightness in twrp, it took about 15 mins for the device to completely shut down.
Any ideas what might fix this?
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Bear in mind that you optimally do not want to discharge the battery to the point of shutdown. Doing so shortens its lifespan, and can trigger the N7 to go into a hibernation mode on order to protect the battery from permanent unrecoverable damage due to a deep discharge.
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najaboy said:
Bear in mind that you optimally do not want to discharge the battery to the point of shutdown. Doing so shortens its lifespan, and can trigger the N7 to go into a hibernation mode on order to protect the battery from permanent unrecoverable damage due to a deep discharge.
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I do know that, I just wanted to try out every thing that could fix this annoying bug.
seriously, battery calibration is for nothing and waste your data and time to download it..
najaboy said:
The myth of wiping battery stats was thoroughly debunked almost a year and a half ago. It is a 100% true statement that neither this app nor wiping battery stats in recovery has ever affected anyone's battery life or battery indication in any way, shape, or form.
Want to know why battery drains after flashing a new rom or kernel? Hint- it has absolutely nothing to do with incorrect battery stats- totally disregarding the fact for a moment that batterystats.bin has absolutely nothing to do with battery charge indication.. After flashing a new rom, your device is actually using more battery than usual as accounts are set up and synced. Likewise, after flashing a new kernel, it takes a short amount of time for the kernel to "settle."
If you still believe the myth that battery stats need to be wiped every now and again, there's an even easier way to do it than wiping in recovery or using some snake oil app... charge your device to full or near full and then unplug it from the charger. Voila- you've just successfully wiped battery stats!
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i have a question....... i discovered this app because mi battery was giving me problems..... for example...... it charges very quickly .... and when i had mmmmm 15% my tablet just shutdown....... when i use this app, i charged my battery to 100% and i "calibrate" my battery ,and my battery works perfect again, now my tablet shutdown in 0% or something like that..... so that could be called calibration.... o what?
thanks!!
alonsoch said:
i have a question....... i discovered this app because mi battery was giving me problems..... for example...... it charges very quickly .... and when i had mmmmm 15% my tablet just shutdown....... when i use this app, i charged my battery to 100% and i "calibrate" my battery ,and my battery works perfect again, now my tablet shutdown in 0% or something like that..... so that could be called calibration.... o what?
thanks!!
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The app has nothing to do with it as the only thing it clears is the list of processes that have operated on battery since the last full or near full charge.
The only "calibration" that an end user can perform entails a complete discharge/charge cycle. This resets the flags for the battery's internal fuel gauge.
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Is there a fix for stuck battery percentage? My tablet was working fine and all of a sudden I realized it was being stuck at 100% regardless of how much I used it.
Aria807 said:
Is there a fix for stuck battery percentage? My tablet was working fine and all of a sudden I realized it was being stuck at 100% regardless of how much I used it.
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a reboot usually fixes it
thx fo info
does that mean these two posts are crap?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Battery_Calibration
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...asy-way-with-battery-calibration-for-android/
dosmastr said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/Battery_Calibration
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...asy-way-with-battery-calibration-for-android/
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Both are outdated.
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najaboy said:
The only "calibration" that an end user can perform entails a complete discharge/charge cycle. This resets the flags for the battery's internal fuel gauge.
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This is all the recalibration the device needs.
Naja is 99% correct. It's not the only calibration you can do (you can wipe stats), but it's the only one you should need to do.
batteryuniversity.com has a couple of good articles on the care and feeding of Li-Ion batteries. There is a lot of less than accurate info that floats around about batteries. The above site is a good way to learn the difference.
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Wiping stats does nothing in terms of calibration.
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Hello I was wondering what is the optimal way to charge the s3? With wall charger or in comp? Should I let it plugued more after it says "Charged(100%)"?
I have a Zerolemon 7100mAh
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I just picked up a Zero Lemon 2300 and still trying to figure out best way. The instructions they give you just dont make sense to me
They make it looks kinda simple but how can we be sure the battery is really fully charged or decharged etc..
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DarkFranX said:
They make it looks kinda simple but how can we be sure the battery is really fully charged or decharged etc..
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Exactly. Plus every time I read someones post on how they did it its always different.
My first battery charge I did what they said. Charged for 12 hours with phone off. Ran it down to 1% and then recharged. Left it on charger for about half hour-hour past full charge. Did the 5 recharge cycles.
Think second battery I may install and run down to 1% before fully charging. My batteries came in with about 56% charge. I dont see why they would need to be charged for 12 hours like that
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Hello I was wondering what is the optimal way to charge the s3? With wall charger or in comp? Should I let it plugued more after it says "Charged(100%)"?
I have a Zerolemon 7100mAh
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fastest should always be wall charger since it has higher current than your usb port in your computer will output, especially if you don't have fast charge enabled (root and rom support required for fast charge).
TL;DR use a wall charger
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aeppacher said:
fastest should always be wall charger since it has higher current than your usb port in your computer will output, especially if you don't have fast charge enabled (root and rom support required for fast charge).
TL;DR use a wall charger
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Yeah wall charger charges up the battery faster than in the computer. But I don't mind the time it takes.. The question is which method is better for the battery? Plus I don't use fast charge since opinion on its risk varie a lot.
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Exactly. Plus every time I read someones post on how they did it its always different.
My first battery charge I did what they said. Charged for 12 hours with phone off. Ran it down to 1% and then recharged. Left it on charger for about half hour-hour past full charge. Did the 5 recharge cycles.
Think second battery I may install and run down to 1% before fully charging. My batteries came in with about 56% charge. I dont see why they would need to be charged for 12 hours like that
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Same thing here.. But i think we should have used it all to 1% BEFORE the first charge.. Doesnt it make more sense?
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DarkFranX said:
Yeah wall charger charges up the battery faster than in the computer. But I don't mind the time it takes.. The question is which method is better for the battery? Plus I don't use fast charge since opinion on its risk varie a lot.
Same thing here.. But i think we should have used it all to 1% BEFORE the first charge.. Doesnt it make more sense?
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That makes sense to me. I posted on their Facebook page asking for clarification on charging steps. And asked about draining it first before first charge
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DarkFranX said:
Yeah wall charger charges up the battery faster than in the computer. But I don't mind the time it takes.. The question is which method is better for the battery? Plus I don't use fast charge since opinion on its risk varie a lot.
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Chemically speaking, the speed variation of the reaction shouldn't matter on health. The process is pretty much reversible which is why you can recharge it after draining. The only reason batteries die is because this process isn't perfect, and sometimes chemical pollutants form. In this case the current and time variation shouldn't provide a better battery health either way. For best battery health simply drain the whole way down before charging it. Charging it when its not completely empty tends to make it die faster. (Chem major here)
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DarkFranX said:
Yeah wall charger charges up the battery faster than in the computer. But I don't mind the time it takes.. The question is which method is better for the battery? Plus I don't use fast charge since opinion on its risk varie a lot.
Same thing here.. But i think we should have used it all to 1% BEFORE the first charge.. Doesnt it make more sense?
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OK here's the reply I got
Rami Mubasher
For best results we ask that customers let the items die down to 1-4% before your first charge. Leave the battery charging for 12 hours if you are able to. Then repeat this cycling 4-5 times. This will yield the best results the quickest. Hope this helps.
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jasvncnt1 said:
OK here's the reply I got
Rami Mubasher
For best results we ask that customers let the items die down to 1-4% before your first charge. Leave the battery charging for 12 hours if you are able to. Then repeat this cycling 4-5 times. This will yield the best results the quickest. Hope this helps.
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Alright thanks for this clarification! Then the best would be to always do full discharge/charge cycle?
aeppacher said:
Chemically speaking, the speed variation of the reaction shouldn't matter on health. The process is pretty much reversible which is why you can recharge it after draining. The only reason batteries die is because this process isn't perfect, and sometimes chemical pollutants form. In this case the current and time variation shouldn't provide a better battery health either way. For best battery health simply drain the whole way down before charging it. Charging it when its not completely empty tends to make it die faster. (Chem major here)
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Great answer! And what about letting the phone plugued in at 100%? Like a whole night? I've heard so much things, some says "it's better to always charge it a little when you can because it is bad if it reaches 0%". I know it's a chemical reaction and I know the internal resistor gets altered over time providing less efficient charge/decharge. When the phone closes it is because not enough power comes out of the battery, but the reaction is still there and by pluguing it we revive it.. right? That would make sense to me. That would mean that there isn't a charging habit killing the battery life more than another?
DarkFranX said:
Alright thanks for this clarification! Then the best would be to always do full discharge/charge cycle?
Great answer! And what about letting the phone plugued in at 100%? Like a whole night? I've heard so much things, some says "it's better to always charge it a little when you can because it is bad if it reaches 0%". I know it's a chemical reaction and I know the internal resistor gets altered over time providing less efficient charge/decharge. When the phone closes it is because not enough power comes out of the battery, but the reaction is still there and by pluguing it we revive it.. right? That would make sense to me. That would mean that there isn't a charging habit killing the battery life more than another?
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I generally like to unplug when full. The reason being, when it gets to 100% it discharges to 99% and the back to 100% it charges. Now in all reality you won't notice any of this battery dying with current gen li-ion batteries unless you keep a battery for like 2 years of use. But then you can always replace it. Bottom line is its not really worth worrying about. I don't know why people say letting it go to 0% is bad. The less repetitive charging, the better, this means letting it go from 100 to 0 as often as possible.
TL;DR it doesn't matter, your battery will outlive your new phone cycle
Thanks a lot for those clear answers!
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Just like the topic says I just want to know how long should I initially charge the battery and how would I go about doing that if I don't have just a battery charger? It's a stock oem battery I just got from eBay and it didn't come with any instructions so I'm trying to figure out the discharge and charge instructions also so I don't fry this battery
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No special steps necessary.
right. plug it in like normal. Some say to discharge oob, then charge all the way. i personally just let it drain 1-2%, then plug in and charge full uninterrupted.
www.batteryuniversity.com if yoh want to research for yourself.
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DocHoliday77 said:
right. plug it in like normal. Some say to discharge oob, then charge all the way. i personally just let it drain 1-2%, then plug in and charge full uninterrupted.
www.batteryuniversity.com if yoh want to research for yourself.
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Thank you... The question is when do I let it fully discharge every time? Or eveeyrime it gets around 2 percent start to charge it?
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RedJack117 said:
Thank you... The question is when do I let it fully discharge every time? Or eveeyrime it gets around 2 percent start to charge it?
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Yes That's correct steps. Anytime bellow 10 % is good time to charge. Do try to wait till its 100 % before unplugging though. Lithum Ion has only so many Cycles.
RedJack117 said:
Thank you... The question is when do I let it fully discharge every time? Or eveeyrime it gets around 2 percent start to charge it?
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What I meant was I just let it drop by 1-2%, not to that point. Imo on first charge there's just not a need to do a full discharge like some say. But when I plug it in I leave it alone till ready. Then first cycle I drop to 5-10% and charge fully once more. After that it doesn't really matter. (That first full cycle is just habit for me. I don't believe it's necessary though.)
Li ion batteries are much more forgiving than people think. Lots of incorrect rumors and info out there. That's why I suggested that link earlier.
DocHoliday77 said:
What I meant was I just let it drop by 1-2%, not to that point. Imo on first charge there's just not a need to do a full discharge like some say. But when I plug it in I leave it alone till ready. Then first cycle I drop to 5-10% and charge fully once more. After that it doesn't really matter. (That first full cycle is just habit for me. I don't believe it's necessary though.)
Li ion batteries are much more forgiving than people think. Lots of incorrect rumors and info out there. That's why I suggested that link earlier.
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Ah I understand... I just want the longest out of my battery but now I'm debating on what phone to get for black Friday! Anyway thank you for the help I feel like discharging it completely and charging it completely is the way to go instead of plugging it in here and there.
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I haven't bothered with following any guidelines in a long time, and after a year and a half my battery was still running strong.
RedJack117 said:
Anyway thank you for the help I feel like discharging it completely and charging it completely is the way to go instead of plugging it in here and there.
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Do note, if you drain 100 % or nearly there then after you plug in, the phone won't turn on for first 20 minutes or so. It will start afterwards.
DocHoliday77 said:
I haven't bothered with following any guidelines in a long time, and after a year and a half my battery was still running strong.
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Perseus71 said:
Do note, if you drain 100 % or nearly there then after you plug in, the phone won't turn on for first 20 minutes or so. It will start afterwards.
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Aright thank you both... I try not to use the phone on charge anyway so that 20 minute thing is fine plus I hear it's bad for the battery and I feel like that's what caused My battery to fry in less than a year
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I personally don't even care. I just charge it whenever I want regardless of what percent, and leave it charging overnight and get 100% when I wake up. The best thing about this phone is that it has a removable battery. If my battery ever dies, I'll just buy another one.