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There is alot of useless stuff in Windows dir and some of them can't be deleted
* Why the hell should help files and pictures for all programs is stored automaticly in windows dir?
* And there is a dir called AppMgr with 3 MB stuff useless inside
* Big today themes, Big pictures and even some 3gp/mp4 videos in there
I moved the help files to my Storage Card, replaced the BIG (2MB) themes with some smaller one, But there are some stuff which can't be overwritten I need help with (ex. I want to move powerpoint and some other programs to my Storage Card)
Is there a manual for which file is harmless to remove from windows dir? and how to do it?
Need advice
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shaytaan said:
There is alot of useless stuff in Windows dir and some of them can't be deleted
* Why the hell should help files and pictures for all programs is stored automaticly in windows dir?
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This is one thing that also ticks me off. I absolutely hate programs that install anything anywhere but the installation directory of the program. Some programs just install the help file right in the same dirctory, and it works fine there. It makes it so much easier to delete all the stray junk left behind, and programs that do not install crap everywhere can easily be moved by just moving the directory. This is the essence of clean software. This is how it works on a Mac, and I will be damned if anyone can prove to me that it is so much better to litter my entire computer with crap everywhere.
Re: Alot of useless stuff in \Windows directory.. I freed up
shaytaan said:
There is alot of useless stuff in Windows dir and some of them can't be deleted
* Why the hell should help files and pictures for all programs is stored automaticly in windows dir?
* And there is a dir called AppMgr with 3 MB stuff useless inside
* Big today themes, Big pictures and even some 3gp/mp4 videos in there
I moved the help files to my Storage Card, replaced the BIG (2MB) themes with some smaller one, But there are some stuff which can't be overwritten I need help with (ex. I want to move powerpoint and some other programs to my Storage Card)
Is there a manual for which file is harmless to remove from windows dir? and how to do it?
Need advice
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Well apprently I am not helping you.. just asking :how did you succeed replacing the 2m Themes ? It won't let me do it.
Tks
I gave another theme the same name as the one in windows dir and overwritten that using Resco Explorer
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shaytaan said:
* And there is a dir called AppMgr with 3 MB stuff useless inside
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Not sure, but isn't the AppMgr folder used for the Remove Programs function?
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astage said:
shaytaan said:
* And there is a dir called AppMgr with 3 MB stuff useless inside
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Not sure, but isn't the AppMgr folder used for the Remove Programs function?
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It is, and you may safely remove/relocate it to somewhere else. You'll only need it again when you uninstall a given app. Please see for example http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?p=775972 for more info.
Re: Alot of useless stuff in \Windows directory.. I freed up
Menneisyys said:
astage said:
shaytaan said:
* And there is a dir called AppMgr with 3 MB stuff useless inside
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Not sure, but isn't the AppMgr folder used for the Remove Programs function?
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It is.....
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Thanks for that info. However, keeping the AppMgr folder may not be useful for uninstalling if you are in the habit of restoring your device from a backup - as I do. Installations appear to use unique IDs that are not recreated when the backup is restored, so subsequent uninstalls (and upgrades with enforced uninstall) fail.
Are you sure you've overwritten the big themes. My guess they were in your rom & all you did was putting a small theme in ram. Costs you only memory then...
oltp said:
Are you sure you've overwritten the big themes. My guess they were in your rom & all you did was putting a small theme in ram. Costs you only memory then...
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I've the same opinion. This is probably what you did. You can't overwrite files in ROM. In case you can, it will not help you with clen RAM :-(
Re: Alot of useless stuff in \Windows directory.. I freed up
dma1965 said:
shaytaan said:
There is alot of useless stuff in Windows dir and some of them can't be deleted
* Why the hell should help files and pictures for all programs is stored automaticly in windows dir?
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This is the essence of clean software. This is how it works on a Mac, and I will be damned if anyone can prove to me that it is so much better to litter my entire computer with crap everywhere.
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On a Mac you do get some associated files ( app prefs or plists, or other support files and some plug-ins) installed in other places asides from the application dierctory or folder, however these are usually minimal and still easily found & deleted if required.
This is one of the difficulties any Mac user finds with Windows and probably why more switch from Wintels to Apples than vice versa....
ahem.. anyway back to WM5...
Xander said:
oltp said:
Are you sure you've overwritten the big themes. My guess they were in your rom & all you did was putting a small theme in ram. Costs you only memory then...
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I've the same opinion. This is probably what you did. You can't overwrite files in ROM. In case you can, it will not help you with clen RAM :-(
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No. You CAN overwrite files with Resco. Me too. I did it many times.
And you are not right. It will help you not exactly to clean the RAM, but speedup your PDA, because WM5 uses not just RAM for calculating, but storage memory too for extracted files which need it, or when you install an application from your PC, the installer .exe file first copy its .cab file to your storage memory. You can check it when you install something. Look at the size of your Storage when it asks to choose where to install, and look after program installed.
someone should write an application that automates this. notify the maker of tweaks2k2 or vijay555
Can you tell me what happens when you delete a file which was supposed to be written in rom, keep a copy of it somewhere else. I know WM5 differs from 2K3, but I can hardly believe that you can cause severe damage to your CE rom. & on my magician I can 'overwrite' CE-rom files with ram files, but when I delete them the original CE-rom file shows again.
So by overwriting a large theme in rom with a small theme, as has been claimed, I guess you always loose space unless you can also delete the original theme from the rom. & if that's possible why overwrite it, instead of deleting it straight away?
Get my point? I'm not an unbeliever, just not convinced that you don't loose some kind of precious storage.
Regards, M
Thought about .tmp files:
I have a TyTn and my storage memory is down to about 23mb. I was exploring my device with Resco Explorer and explored \Windows\AppMgr. There were a lot of folders in the directory, mostly application folders that I installed in my device. There is also a folder named \Install (\Windows\AppMgr\Install). The \Install folder contains .cab files that are 8mb large. the app folders in \AppMgr contains .dll and .tmp files. I deleted ALL the .tmp files and the .cab files and my available storage memory is now 34mb. There were no negative effects with such deletions even after a few resets and application launching.
I believe that the .tmp files were created during installs and the .cab files were copied when installing files to device memory.
Hope this will help those with low storage memory. Just be sure to make a backup before deleting the files I mentioned. Thanks.
Those are really useless. thank you.
would like to delete those, but it's file protected, do any guys know any software can ignore the protection and delete it? thanks
Just use a better filemanager. Try TotalCommander (choose the cab for arm/xscale/pxa to install directly from pda).
thanks for your reply. I tried the TotalCommander, still not able to delete those. Very sad.
try deleting it using htc album, worked for me...
These Album samples reside in the directory Internal Storage\My Documents\My Pictures. Just use any File Explorer to go there and delete them and they are gone..
ya, i deleted those in "my pictures", but discover there are copies in windows directory and not able to be deleted.
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These Album Sample xx files are totally useless and each of them takes about 900 Ko of memory space.
How is it possible there is no way to remove all the album samples as well as the unused ringtones.
Why such a waste of memory space ?
Even with Total Commander it does not work....
It's only possible by recooking a ROM.
I've recooked the 2.03 ROM, and I removed the album files and ringtones. I'm going to upload and release it later.
They are in ROM. Even if you delete them, what good will that do? It's not like you'll be freeing memory that can be used by the system.
pedmond said:
They are in ROM. Even if you delete them, what good will that do? It's not like you'll be freeing memory that can be used by the system.
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That is why a recooked ROM is necessary.
l3v5y said:
That is why a recooked ROM is necessary.
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I think that what he meant is that they only take up storage space, not RAM.
To me 900 kb of storage space is no big deal since the Diamond has plenty of storage and I haven't noticed any speed difference between the small device storage (ROM) and internal storage (4gb).
There are many useless files in the Windows directory that cannot be deleted, however, you can replace them with some 0 KB files. Here are 46 useless files that will free up more than 10 MB of space. There are more useless files, although the file sizes aren't as large as these, but feel free to add/post them. Always backup the original ones in your computer just in case you want to restore them.
To replace these files, copy them to the phone's internal storage with ActiveSnyc, then use Total Commander to copy them to the Windows directory.
You sure?
Just one question... if they're 'useless' files, why are they there? Surely some application somewhere will need them - or am I missing something obvious here
grahamkdt said:
Just one question... if they're 'useless' files, why are they there? Surely some application somewhere will need them - or am I missing something obvious here
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The 46 files that I consider them useless are sample images, ringtones, and a few .cab files. The Album Sample_01.jpg to Album Sample_11.jpg images alone are worth a few MB. For the ringtone, I only use one, so all the others are useless. Finally, there are some .cab files that were used only during the initial setup of the phone, and once they're used, these .cab files won't be used again.
OK...
Cheers... I'm with you. Didn't realise there was all that crap on there. Mind you, I'm using AZTOR's ROM, so he's probably removed all the 'junk' already!
If these files can't be deleted then they're in the ROM.
Replacing them with 0KB versions does not save any disk space and is completely pointless - unless you are deliberately trying to remove functionality.
Davey101 said:
If these files can't be deleted then they're in the ROM.
Replacing them with 0KB versions does not save any disk space and is completely pointless - unless you are deliberately trying to remove functionality.
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Are you sure? When I replaced those files, the free space showing under Memory -> Storage has increased.
To help this man.
What this .cab does it's overwrite existing "installations files", does that appir on first boot. (When you install opera).
This cab, overwrite the installations file, so it not fill up your diamond with old used installations files.
.. And thanks for sharing the cab with us. :=)
grahamkdt said:
Cheers... I'm with you. Didn't realise there was all that crap on there. Mind you, I'm using AZTOR's ROM, so he's probably removed all the 'junk' already!
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not likely alzphazero's philosophy is to keep everything as close as possible... meaning no image optimization / removal / changes...
vale|46 said:
Are you sure? When I replaced those files, the free space showing under Memory -> Storage has increased.
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No I'm not sure... I just assumed they were in the ROM given that you said they couldn't be deleted. If they're not in the ROM then this is a valid workaround, though there must be some other way of deleting them.
i was going to make a thingy like this but now i see it already exists im going to use yours
Replacing files in ROM with 0KB will not save any space. I just tried it. The space you saved is from the files which are NOT in the ROM.
My Desire's ROM is full. I have rooted the phone and using root explorer to remove garbage from the ROM. There are many apps in /system/app. Each app has a .apk file and an .odex file. Is it safe to move the *.apk files to my sd card to save up space? Or are they needed to run the application?
Thanx
norad73 said:
My Desire's ROM is full. I have rooted the phone and using root explorer to remove garbage from the ROM. There are many apps in /system/app. Each app has a .apk file and an .odex file. Is it safe to move the *.apk files to my sd card to save up space? Or are they needed to run the application?
Thanx
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Think you may need to read a fair few of the posts in the forum if you are asking is it safe to remove apk's.
A fair answer is yes and no.
Some you can some you can't.
Removing the wrong ones will cause havoc with your phone.
Why not try flashing one of the custom Roms on here.
Thanx Raze.
I believe that the operating system either *needs* or *doesent need* an apk file in the system/app folder for the app to function correctly.
My question is: Does android 2.2 *need* or *not need* the .apk file of an app to exist in the /system/app folder in order for the app to function correctly? Isnt the odex file enough?
Since apk's are package files, my impression was that maybe they are not needed after the app is installed.
deleted .apk file = uninstalled app
deleted important.apk file = havoc on your phone
norad73 said:
My Desire's ROM is full. I have rooted the phone and using root explorer to remove garbage from the ROM. There are many apps in /system/app. Each app has a .apk file and an .odex file. Is it safe to move the *.apk files to my sd card to save up space? Or are they needed to run the application?
Thanx
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You won't get any advantage from that; freeing space on the system storage partition won't lead you to have more room for your apps on the internal storage of your device: those are two different partitions. If you want more space on the internal storage partition you should flash a custom, resized partition table (you need s-off, look on the related topic for the howto) and (if you didn't do that yet) partition your sd, so that you can use a2sd scripts to move your stuff there. That's the best you can do if you wanna have more room for your apps, everything else won't help much imo
norad73 said:
Thanx Raze.
I believe that the operating system either *needs* or *doesent need* an apk file in the system/app folder for the app to function correctly.
My question is: Does android 2.2 *need* or *not need* the .apk file of an app to exist in the /system/app folder in order for the app to function correctly? Isnt the odex file enough?
Since apk's are package files, my impression was that maybe they are not needed after the app is installed.
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My understanding (please correct me if i am wrong as i am so used to windows phone) is that the odex file is simply the integrity of the apk. lots of roms now are de-odexed so you can push or zip-flash a file into its place and it will still function. if the rom still has the odex files this is not possible as the phone will check the apk against the odex file and bootloop. The apk is the install package and the woking part of the file itself. Your best bet would be to flash a rom with A2SD installed in it. This accesses a fat3 partition on your sd card which the android os sees as extra internal space. I'm running LeeDroid 2.2d A2SD version. I have more apps installed now than when i was on a stock rom (motonav, psx4droid, angry birds, snesoid etc) and my phone still says i have 85mb or 52% of my space left
Thank you guys, now it is clear.
I keep getting a storage space low warning on my Desire, and I am trying to find out how to free up some space. My phone is rooted, my sd is partitioned, and most of my apps are installed on the SD with apps2sd.
Any apps still installed on the phone do not support installing on the SD. I have removed almost all apps and left only a very few that cannot be moved.
EDIT: Just realized that HTC Mail data was taking up 65mb of the phone memory.... deleted it and now my phone can breathe again
you are rooted? well if you use a2Ext you dont have to move your Apps to SD.
Moved to Q&A as not development.
Please do not post such questions in development.
Check those articles:
Safe to remove apks:
http://androidforums.com/droid-x-al...t-apps-apks-removable-non-removable-root.html
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Barebones
Custom MTD Partitions (resize data, system, and cache):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=806321
Hello,
the title sounds silly, i know, but i really have trouble deleting some files.
Inside directory: /storage/sdcard0/dcim/.thumbnails there are several files for which if i look their properties i see that they are about 2gb in size.
Since my device has only 8 gb of memory, 2gb is way too much for image cache.
I try to delete theese files.
The problem is that whenever i delete those files they reappear, that is, my internal sdcard is still almost full, and those files despite that are not shown, but they are in the system somewhere, since my free space did not increased at all. Those files reappear in this same folder, after a few days and are still a couple of gb large.
How to really delete those files?